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Broken on release: Is early access ruining games?

As games are being made by many more indie developers, its fair to say that we have a fair choice of incomplete games, but the question is whether that is a bad thing or not.

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SynGamer3743d ago

Not at all. Early Access often enables players to contribute their idea's and feedback to the developer(s), who are then able to ACTUALLY implement and make changes to the game.

I look at "early access" games as "paid beta's. It's kind of the opposite of what we're use to, but I love the idea of getting to try a game early AND help make it better.

Doogle3003743d ago

I totally agree. Early access on paper is great, but it's the ones that slip through the cracks like War Z that spoil it.

SynGamer3743d ago

Completely agree, but thankfully shitty games like that are quickly pointed out by the media and gamers alike.

PurpHerbison3742d ago

Yet gamers played the hell out of War Z regardless, and it's saddening.

Kivespussi3742d ago

It's great for developers with passion and great ideas but don't have enough resources to complete the game. I mean at least they note everyone that "hey, the game is still not finished and will be very rough around the edges. If you don't want to support our work or don't want the game before it's ready, do not buy this just yet". I think that if you want to point fingers in someone for releasing broken games then point the fingers at EA's direction. BF4 is a kind of game that shouldn't be released when they did. It has gotten better with patches but still isn't working like it should.

wsoutlaw873742d ago

Ya i thought the dayz guy handled it very well telling everyone straght that the game will be very buggy and rough and just pay if you want to support development.

Infamous2983742d ago

Am i the only who thinks that early access games are overpriced???

1nsomniac3742d ago (Edited 3742d ago )

No the majority of them are not heavily over-priced but for the concept of early access (content-wise) they are over priced.

There's a voxel god sim game on steam (compares itself to Minecraft) at the moment, cant remember the name, but it's £40 & has nothing in it & has been like that since about November I think. There's a lot of complaints on their forum.

Don't know why anyone would pay £40 anyway

Vanna3742d ago

I totally agree

It gives gamers a chance to try them out and contribute to ideas, fixes etc

The problem is many including media seem to treat them as complete or are not able to fully grasp what an alpha state truly means.

sinspirit3742d ago

Definitely. MineCraft was in Alpha when people were able to buy it. Basically early access. If not for that the game would not be as phenomenally huge.

StarBound and Prison Architect are more great examples which I have purchased. If not for early access then some of these developers without much money would be forced to release broken games entitled as full releases. Early Access means putting your game up earlier, pulling in funding, and having even more development time to put in, which so far seems to get rid of the idea of DLC as these common updates pull in consistent funding and keep players playing because they have more to look forward to every week or so with the updates.

I personally find it amazing to watch a game evolve with updates. To a developer it must really be like watching your baby grow up.

ATi_Elite3740d ago

Early access is AWESOME!

Stop crying about it being broken because you are playing a Pre-Alpha game.

That's like buying a used car with no engine in it and crying about how it doesn't drive fast.

You are warned and informed of what you are getting into.

(WarZ is a bad example because WarZ was a complete rip-off and just a money grab from the start).

DayZ went from being a one man Mod to a Complete overhaul by a very small team in about 1.5 years. Most games take 3 years and a ton of people to make and DayZ while very very playable still has a ton of things Dean will add. Also DayZ is more complex than most other games as still nothing is like it.

I like early access because lots of times you get to play with the Devs and actually have Devs implement some of your suggestions.

Project Cars is a complete MONSTER because the Devs just took all the great gamer ideas and put them into the game.

Firefall is another early access Game that Devs played with gamers on a Daily basis and Firefall has become a Great MMO-FPS-RPG as well as a Flawless eSport all becuase of a great Dev/Gamer early access relationship.

If early access is done right the game will be made with gamer input thus insuring a strong community and a great game.

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SpiralTear3743d ago

I can see people being upset with buying a game that technically is still in the works. However, this isn't kept in secret or anything. As long as the early access is advertised as being "in development", then gamers shouldn't be pointing fingers at the developers.

War Z was a big problem, I totally agree, but I think it was also a lesson that digital distribution services need to take early access games seriously and not let just anything pass on the storefront. Just because a game is technically incomplete doesn't mean it should be downright broken.

Early access isn't ruining games, but I still think there's a lot that the gaming industry needs to learn to really make this idea work.

SnakeCQC3742d ago

With early access; you know what you are getting. Atleast im not being charged full retail for bugs etc. People can always look at the comments section of steam or research what they buy.

Hartsy3742d ago

At least with early access you know what your getting, a game that's not finished, when you pay full price for, something like battlefield 4 that's already been in beta! Then yes that's the side that leaves gamers and especially fans more than angry.

SirBradders3742d ago

Think of it this way instead of a small studio worth of people creating and testing the game to the point of player perfection you have a million people in day z terms.

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Fallout 4's 'next gen' update is over 14 gigs, breaks modded saves, & doesn't change much at all

We were expecting problems with mod support, but there are a lot of other issues.

isarai6h ago

Wow what the actual hell 🤣🤣🤣

just_looken6h ago

This is why you get the GOG version on gog you can select the version of the game to download.

On pc fallout 4 fallout new vegas and skyrim are all broken on steam because they all got the same "next gen" update.

Skyrim dec 2023
https://www.pcgamer.com/sky...

Can not find new vegas but anyone that modded it knows the script extender there was also broken

Valkyrye4h ago

Not accidental, they want modders to stop modding their older games to force them to mod Shitfield.

just_looken3h ago

There doing the same on starfield with a mods store and blocking mods

There goal is like blizzard and what they did with fallout 76 you make mods they can sell and you become a slave.

On skyrim they have "trusted" mod devs now basically a badge that lets your mod on the store you get a crumb of the sale when someone buys it.

Inverno1h ago

lol to the disagrees, the last Skyrim update broke mods too. They've been trying to kill mods to monetize them in creation club for years, it's not a stretch that they purposely put out patches just to break free mods.

porkChop11m ago

The disagrees are from people who have common sense. They aren't trying to kill mods. Most mods for any game will break with a new update because they rely on files/code that have been changed. This isn't new. Even with Bethesda this would happen way before the creation club. Mod support is literally one of the things that got Bethesda to where they are, and they're one of the only devs that releases comprehensive mod tools for each of their games.

Chocoburger1h ago

Over 14 GBs and doesn't change much at all? What? Taking up that much drive space for a pathetic 'remastering' is shameful.

Par for Bethesda.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein5h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno1h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k433m ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

Zenzuu58m ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

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Gears of War Voice Actor Hints At New Game Announcement Coming In June

A voice actor from The Coalition's third-person shooter series, Gears of War, has hinted at a new game announcement coming in June.

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Ra30308m ago

Hopefully Microsoft will go back to the original story line and get away from that woke nonsense from the last Gears game Gears of Woke! But were talking about Microsoft so all the betting money is on more of the same woke nonsense.