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Video Game Creepypasta: Squall is Dead

Samantha Leichtamer (Games.com): It's no secret that Final Fantasy games (and JRPGs in general) typically have complicated and sometimes non-sensical plots-- sometimes so complicated that you as the player are forced to explain the story to yourself. Because of this many theories are coined and some of them are more convincing than others. Today we're talking about possibly the most convincing of all-- Squall is Dead.

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Buff10443526d ago

Long live Cloud! Down with Squall!

-Foxtrot3526d ago (Edited 3526d ago )

To be honest Squall actually has better character development then Cloud.

I mean the game is basically Squalls "Hero" Journey from a lonely selfish jerk with no friends to a brave heroic leader surrounded by the ones he's finally managed to open himself up to.

Shame people just base Squall on the person we meet at the start of Disc 1

zerocrossing3526d ago (Edited 3526d ago )

Agreed, I've always liked Squall and Cloud Equally.

Honestly? I think most of the hate for Squall stems from FF VIII not being a direct sequel to FF VII...

Snookies123526d ago

I agree, Squall was a great lead character. The people that hate on him must not have been paying attention to the story, or just didn't finish the game.

-Foxtrot3526d ago

@zerocrossing

Exactly

The new fans they brought in from FF7 probably didn't realise each new game told a new story so when FF8 was released it ticked a lot of people off who nitpicked the game to death.

To be honest I think it's a better game then FF7.

Pozzle3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

It's strange how people claim to be fans of Final Fantasy yet they don't seem to know much about the games beyond the first few hours. Over the years I've seen so many people complaining that Squall is too "emo", that Cloud is too emotionless, that Tidus is too whiny, or that Zidane is too goofy.

These people seem to completely ignore the character development that each of them went through. They're all great characters in their own way.

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TongkatAli3526d ago

VIII story was brilliant and if this is the truth than that would be epic as well.

DragonKnight3526d ago

Ugh. Not this again. This along with the "Rinoa is Ultimecia" fallacious theories just never die. Squall is not dead, the story makes perfect sense.

First, the Ice Shard didn't hit Squall anywhere that would kill him. You can clearly see that he was hit in the right pectoral region, not in the heart or any other major organ.

Second, just because he wakes up chained to the torture device that Seifer has him on, doesn't mean he "woke up without a scratch."

Third, you don't know exactly how much time has passed between when Squall was struck and they actually show them in prison.

Fourth, heal magic. Seifer wanted to torture Squall and get information out of him, that means he couldn't let Squall die before that.

And let's not even get into the fact that a "life flashing before ones eyes" wouldn't allow Squall to the see experiences of other people independent of himself. This theory expects us to believe that Squall's "dream" invented the independent actions of everyone else, including when Zell, Selphie, and Quistis busted out of their cell to find and rescue Squall, and Rinoa and Irvine returning, which is something Squall was completely clueless about.

The theory is ridiculous, created by people who have absolutely no grasp on the true depth of Final Fantasy VIII's story and so fabricate something more believable for themselves.

Spotie3526d ago

Main thing: how could we have played as Selphie if Squall was dead?

And all that other stuff, too.

Pozzle3526d ago (Edited 3526d ago )

It's funny how people find Squall surviving a stab wound unrealistic, but they happily accept the existence of sorceresses, dragons, time travel, flying schools, and a high-tech futuristic city with giant floating teacups as the primary mode of transport.

DragonKnight3526d ago

Lol, I couldn't have put that any better. Perfect response to this theory.

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10 PS1 Games That Actually Need A Remake

With hundreds of games, some of which are considered to be classics that hold up to this day, you’ve got the pick of the litter when it comes to choosing a potential remake

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RaidenBlack46d ago

^This. THIS!
Stop remaking PS4 games!
Remake PS1 and PS2 games à la FF7R, RE1, Mafia, Half Life style ....
Make Legend of Dragoon, Legacy of Kain etc Remakes happen

darthv7246d ago

Legend of Dragoon... WTH is Sony doing just letting this one squander?

-Foxtrot46d ago

I wonder if their mindset is like “meh we have Final Fantasy what’s the point of our own JRPG”

FinalFantasyFanatic46d ago

@-Foxtrot,
Square-Enix had a long period there where it seems they didn't know what to do with Final Fantasy, I think that time period would have been a good time to revisit their classics and remake them. Now it seems they're going full steam ahead with the franchise, so they have less reason to revisit those older games. I wouldn't mind if they subcontracted them out to other developers, that and I don't trust SE to remake their older games.

Cacabunga45d ago

Simply because i do not think it will succeed.. maybe a bad example but e we got Medievil remake after many years fans have beg asking... result is It flopped hard. Remaking a JRPG is so risky. Only a bunch of hardcore gamers who played the original would buy it. If Sony put even more budget into it then it’s even more risky.

As i suggested before, i think they should start remaking like square did with Star Ocean. Or something similar to Octopath Traveller. Build up some hype and try on higher scale later on..

Terry_B46d ago

Let me tell you about PS1 games that should get a remake actually.

Jumping Flash (As a VR game)
Ridge Racer 1-4 as Ridge Racers 3..just like the pretty perfect PSP RR1.-2 games but with even more content
Xenogears
Cardinal Sin which was full of nice ideas for its time but was plagued by technical limitations
Bushido Blade ^^ just like CS
Bust A Groove.
WWF Attitude. With the same roster, same voices,Only slightly updated gameplay but current gen graphics
Dynasty Warriors..yes the fighting game that was similar to Tekken 2 while it had weapons.As nice as the DW games are..its a shame they never released a new fighting game

And while I am at it.

Thrill Kill ...hell yes.

KyRo46d ago

Ah Thrill Kill, the game that was banned/cancelled but everyone had played 😂 what a throwback!

darthv7246d ago

jumping Flash would make a great VR game. Im actually quite surprised nobody has thought to do that one... even on the indie side for something like the meta quest.

GhostMirror46d ago

Big yes to Jumping Flash! and Ridge Racer revivals. Bushido Blade was cool as well; it was pretty deep and so much different from other fighting games at the time. Einhander was another good non-RPG from Square, which was kind of rare for them in that era.

Didn’t Thrill Kill eventually get re-skinned and released with a Wu-Tang Clan license? 😂

FinalFantasyFanatic46d ago

I miss Ridge Racer so much, give me a new game or at least a collection of the older games! I had a blast playing Ridge Racer PSP on my PS4 a few months back.

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FinalFantasyFanatic46d ago

I cannot understand the current business practice of remaking games from the previous generation, especially when they are very much playable today and still hold up well, it's even worse when people are willing buying them again. The PS1 generation is so ripe for remakes, I know more than a few people who would clamour for a Xenogears remake, or almost any game from that list.

Ravenkiss46d ago

and Valkyrie Profile Lenneth. They did Star Ocean 1 & 2 R already, VPL should get the same treatment.

Redgrave46d ago

I assume this to mean that you aren't considering the PSP port to be the remake in this statement? Like a remake of that one?

FinalFantasyFanatic46d ago

That version is quite old though, that was 18 years ago, so doing a remake in the vain of Star Ocean might be worth it (I did not think the PSP was that old until I looked it up).

Knightofelemia46d ago

I'd be down for FF8, and Xenogears. But I would also be down for Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross. And I wish Namco would get off their ass and remake or remaster the Xenosaga trilogy.

FinalFantasyFanatic46d ago

There's been talk of a Xenosaga trilogy on the proviso that there was enough demand, I hope that actually happens one day.

Christopher46d ago

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LoveSpuds46d ago

What a fantastic game that was!

Skuletor46d ago

You forgot Tenchu: Stealth Assassins

Snookies1246d ago

Why does From Software not do ANYTHING with this franchise... It's so sad... Can't they at least outsource it to someone to try a revival?

leahcim45d ago

masterpiece, best OST of all times.

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Final Fantasy Games That Deserve the Remake Treatment

Final Fantasy has a long running history with numerous numbered titles and spin-offs, but which games stand to benefit from a remake?

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gold_drake152d ago

i feel like all of them.
well except 2 haha.

shinoff2183152d ago

Agreed. Ff2 though can be made better, so it's not entirely a lost cause. Ff8 will gets its time. I do wish they'd do the old ones. From ff10 and up those ones still hold up pretty well.

kevco33151d ago

Honestly, I've always felt that VII and up 'hold up well' in that regard. The early 3D games just needed a cosmetic update. But the FFVII Remake is so different to the original in execution that a lot of games could be done in a similar fashion and feel far more modern.

I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing (that depends on your personal preference!), just that they could feel very different.

shinoff2183151d ago

Kevco I liked remake but I think your right. Idda been happy with a 1 to 1 remake that looked like ever crisis to. Or both

I'd just love I square would one day give us a turned based one with today's graphics. I can't really think of a jrpg that does that.

andy85151d ago

I'd rather the 13 trilogy just be ported tbh. No matter what you think if it, it shouldn't be the only numbered offline games not playable on new consoles. But naturally I'd play the **** out of 8-12 remakes.

shinoff2183151d ago

I do agree. I'd give it another shot even though I didn't like it at first. My taste change over time. Gta 4 for instance I was so disappointed it lacked so much of what san andreas had I didn't play it for like 5 years. One day went to a semi pro football game(American football) came home drunk and decided to try 4 again. I actually liked it after giving it a fair shot.

Rebel_Scum151d ago

Just make new games. Not every game needs to be remade.

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All Of The Final, Final Fantasy Bosses, Ranked

BLG writes: "Final Fantasy bosses are swimming with challenging and exciting battles. Over the course of the series, the game has evolved from turn-based battles to more action-oriented gameplay. That has allowed players to see a variety of battles and types if you’ve played multiple entries across the decades. Bosses you see in more recent games like Final Fantasy 15 are grander in scale than those you might have seen on the Super Nintendo in the 1990s. That doesn’t always equate to them being more legendary, though. "

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RavenWolfx782d ago

Yeah, Yu Yevon was such a disappointment.