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The Xbox One Reveal Results In Pure Disaster – A PR Nightmare

An eGamer journalist discusses what he believes the biggest problems of the Xbox One reveal are: the PR nightmare that ensued, and Microsoft's bad decisions.

*Warning: video includes vulgar language.

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Software_Lover3990d ago

We all agree, but how many of these articles/blogs do we need approved?

General Shrooms3990d ago

Not everyone agrees.

The only thing I don't like so far, is their DRM policy with physical store bought games.

Mono-san3990d ago

What about the need to have Kinect plugged in at all times? Or that you have to connect the console every 24 hours to the net in order for it to work. Or how about this:

http://n4g.com/news/1263566...

If people don't voice their concerns, many won't get what's so wrong about the direction they're going with the Xbox One.

Elit3Nick3990d ago

All these rumors seem to be based on fabricated facts, microsoft said on their twitter page that there is NO fee to install an already owned game, can we please all wait until the official statements please.

hellvaguy3990d ago

@Gerchi

I wasn't happy with several things in the X1 reveal, but come on man, there's no need to tell blantant lies. No where in your link or in any ms announcement does it ever say that Kinect has to be plugged in at all times.

Tody_ZA3990d ago

@hellvaguy
It has been said many times =) Here are three separate sources confirming that Kinect must be plugged in and on at all times, as the Xbox One requires it to function:

Source 1) http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-...

Source 2) https://twitter.com/kevin__...

Source 3) http://www.gamefront.com/xb...

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Tody_ZA3990d ago

I do apologise if it seems like repetition, but you must remember every site out there will have things to say in response to an event as big as this, and so will all the gamers as well. There'll always be many articles about it, each with their own piece to say :)

Like this feature focuses more on the PR mess that came after the event rather than the actual event itself.

chrismichaels043990d ago

As many as it takes for Microsoft to listen to what the people are saying.

SpinalRemains3989d ago

Just stop.

I clearly remember a giant crab article every 3 hrs for months!

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, we see who has thin skin.

A next gen disasterous reveal is huge news and should be discussed and mocked. To support such a reveal is to invite more of them.

Software_Lover3989d ago

WTF are you talking about? On the other foot?

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ape0073990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

i think people are overreacting, sony fanboys are acting like tweens on the net, 30+ year old guys, acting all like it's doom and gloom for xbox one, yes the EVENT was a let down, sony's ps4 event was 10 times better but this is not the whole picture , wait until E3 darlings, it's soon, don't let out all your emotion yet, save it and celebrate when the console truly sucks

NatureOfLogic3990d ago

Yeah, lets wait until E3. Lets listen to what the Xbots have been saying for the last 4-5 years.

4>1

ape0073990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

im afraid you eat your own words

4>1? that sounds so emo\gayish thing to say at this point , it's still too early man, man up and have some dignity

Elit3Nick3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

@KingElixir Thanks for proving his point ;)

sway_z3990d ago

@KingElixir

You're 100% right...MS have kept Xbox 360 owners waiting since 2010 for quality 1st party titles.

..as you can see, they're a patient and forgiving bunch, in spite of MS' repeat offending.

If peeps in relationships were as loyal, there would be zero infidelity.

#creditwhereitsdue

MariaHelFutura3990d ago

"wait for the reveal" has just transformed into "wait for E3".

Tody_ZA3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

I also don't agree with the "wait for E3" approach, because Microsoft has already said that they're still months away from launching the console and they have not yet finalised these policies.

So it's highly doubtful that they will have "finalised" these policies in the next two weeks. We won't be hearing about used games and the 24 hour authentication for online and all the rest. If they had the answers they'd give them now, otherwise they're just shooting themselves in the foot.

Let's be honest. The people watching the Xbox Reveal event are: gaming journalists, hardcore gamers, gamers from all over the world, and I think a small minority would be the casuals.

Yet it felt like the event in no way catered for most of that crowd.

I don't mind if they want to show off all their social and Xbox One Kinect features. That's fine. But they have to have a balance. And gaming was put to as bare a minimum as possible. I mean, even the games that were shown, most weren't even in-game footage, and not even tech demos, but in-house developer tech demos.

There was zero balance, and the gaming crowd was alienated.

Worst of all though is the PR nightmare that followed. You can't get a single straight answer from Microsoft, five different exces say five different things. If they don't have the answers, or Microsoft hasn't finalised its policies, why not just give "no comment?" Why cause such a disaster?

After Sony's conference, when they were asked about used games and always-on, Sony said straight up that the console can be totally offline, and it won't block used games. There was no dodging or dancing around or messing about.

LeCreuset3990d ago

Just as "wait for E3" will become "wait until launch."

Mikeyy3990d ago

Then after "wait for Launch" it will be "Wait for Respawn Entertainment"

ickysweat773990d ago

What you fail to understand is that it is not about fanboyism, it's about making our voices heard so that maybe enough complaining and negative press makes Microsoft change their minds about the DRM and used games and other things we as gamers do not like. Throughout the past few years, many a company has tried to charge or add policies that resulted in customer backlash. This backlash has led to the company rethinking their position in favor of the customer. It doesn't always work, but those who sit back and take whatever is given without complaint will find companies will screw you out of as much money as they can get away with. So people like you, who just take whatever is given to them with open arms, are the problem. No company will alienate all of their customers, and this is the way we get to use our power to keep gaming consumer-friendly. There is nothing worse than people who support a company no matter what, and do not keep these companies honest. Instead, your undivided support allows these companies to dictate and enact policies that are anti-consumer.

Why o why3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

I cant believe you said that ape. Should I really direct you to pissed off known 360 preferrers. You really think its just sony fansboys .....smh...youve obviously not been reading enough comments. Ms has had the platform to dismiss and dispell most of the negative rumours, forget the lack of gameplay footage or over-focus on tv tv, but rumours plaguing the xbox one. They chose not to..why wait until e3. This blogger makes some good points. Ms have brought this on themselves. Sony isnt out of the woods yet either, as there are still some unanswered questions that need addressing, just far less than ms have.

MASTER_RAIDEN3990d ago

the fact that you say something like "4>1" sounds "emo and gayish" shows that youre probably not too mature. emo? who has even said the word emo since 2007?
and nobody totally thinks the ps4 is going to rape the 360 based on the reveal. OBVIOUSLY xbox one and ps4 both have games to showcase over e3. it doesnt change the fact that they took their most important unavailing to date and used up their time to talk about extremely dated and nonsensical voice commands.
youre acting like nobody here knows they have games to show off.

the anger and discouragement in the new xbox brand stems from a difference in each companies focus. sonys main focus was video games. MS's main focus was...well, it was what it was.

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GuruStarr783990d ago

I think Sony and MS are really forgetting what we as the buyers want... one of those things is backwards compatibility... sure, it's great it'll play these shiny, new games... but it really is a letdown that I can't play my 360 and PS3 games on the new consoles.... I've got to keep them and try to stack them on top of each other like a dirty pawn shop..

ape0073990d ago

agreed and awesome picture btw

MariaHelFutura3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

The president of Sony said "We won't block used games" a month or two ago.

Highlife3990d ago

Well I will keep my ps3 and put it in my bedroom while the ps4 will be in the family room. Not sure why you have to stack them? Live in a box??

sway_z3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

@JQM78

Awww poor you and your 1st world problems...there, there...

KEEP YOUR F'ing CONSOLES AND QUIT CRYING!!!

#sorted

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Blankolf3990d ago

I had a PS1, PS2 and XBOX 360, I think I am going to return home... PS 4 Gamers and XBOX One Fistpump in console form, basicly sumarizes things...

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7214h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Cacabunga30m ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

purple1013h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac2h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 10h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 8h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 5h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN22h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies20h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 8h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic18h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9017h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 9h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 9h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 6h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 8h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 8h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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