Nintendo does a lot of things right and a lot of things wrong. Unlike many companies, when they do things right, they do them not only effectively but uniquely. But when they do something wrong, things go horribly wrong.
I don't see why the D-pad wasn't placed on the top and the analog on the bottom and they didn't include a second analog on the right side. I wouldn't mind a little extra bulk if it meant I could control my games better. Also, why aren't the Home, Start, and Select buttons raised? Another issue I have is that the bottom screen runs at a lower resolution than the top.
The 2nd analog costs money, and that's it, as far as Nintendo is concerned. They still make a profit on the $169.99 pricetag, if that's any indication of just how far they will go to profit from brand loyalty. They probably figured they were doing the gamer a favor by adding a single analog stick to begin with... even though gamers screamed for years (with the PSP) that *two* analogs were necessary for game control if you were to utilize that schema at all. The 3DS is hardware was designed primarily by businessmen who want money via quick stockholder-pleasing actions, not gamers who like making money via making quality products. That's sadly been true of Nintendo hardware since the Wii "revolution" began. Nintendo was once the king of gaming quality, catering to the finer tastes of the dedicated gamer. No longer. Now their goal is just money... or what they think will make them the most money in the shortest timespan, anyway. I would even go as far to say that their actions (since the Wii's release) are downright dishonorable, when it comes to their hardcore fanbase, with rare few exceptions.
I agree and it seems like they've been like this for a while. Now it just seems like they're being cocky about it and not even trying anymore.
Yeah Im definitely dissapointed about the second analog fiasco. I wanted to get a 3DS soon, especially with MK3DS coming out here in a couple of months, but Im not going to get that horrible add-on. In other words I'll have to wait until next year for when they bring out that rebranded 3DS or whatever it will be. At least they're admitting to their mistakes I guess.
Seeing as how the Wii has the lowest failure rate of the three home consoles by far, I wouldn't say that's the case. And while I feel the 3DS dosen't feel quite as sturdy as the DS, I don't think there's anything wrong with it otherwise. Also, a second stick couldn't cost but so much. They just didn't think they would need it. And third parties proved them wrong, which explains why capcom is so deeply involved with the peripheral.
Nintendo don't profit from the $170 price tag, they are selling at a loss. Source: http://www.destructoid.com/... Other than that, I agree with what you said.
that add on is despicable. no one should back that crap up. Wow if they release a redesign with the second circle pad that is going to be one big betrayal for the early adopters.
So basically damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Nintendo let the success get to their heads just like SONY did when the PS3 launch. Seriously, I mean, so many blunders as of late. After the massive success of the Wii and DS I would have expected Nintendo to be much better poised for next gen. Guess they weren't. That's the problem with going casual. When you loose the core audiance (even though there are far less of us than casuals) you have a big problem.
The Circle Pad is one ugly looking peripheral. Heck, it looks like a tumor that needs to be surgically removed from the 3DS.
I don't think it looks bad, although I don't have a DS either. And the DPad was placed on bottom maybe because you'd use it less and the top would be more comfortable for more games. Yeah it screws you for games that only use the dpad, but it can't be 100% perfect.
The 3DS looks fine but with that fugly piece of shit circle pad accessory probably designed by Crapcom, it would be an eyesore.
The fuck does Capcom have to do with anything? What are you talking about?
Go search on N4G. There was an article about the possibility.
The second analog was released for Monster Hunter on 3DS. Even though you dont need it to play it's recommended.
It is pretty bad... Why can't most people admit it though, people quickly jump in to defend Nintendo with out thinking about Nintendos poor decision. When Sony/Microsoft does something wrong were quick to comment at what they've done but Nintendo get's a free pass. No company is perfect but we should be able to say when they've done wrong. The point is that circle pad should of been on from the start, if Nintendo wern't so bothered about a gimmick to sell their handheld they could of focused on the design and what people have been asking for....you know the whole "We want a second analouge stick on our PSP", Nintendo could of jumped in on the chance but didn't
They made some mistakes. That can't be denied. But when all anyone else says about them is so seemingly baised and negative, it can be hard to not want to jump in. Also, having a second stick could hurt the chances of developers utilizing the touch screen, as you need a stylus in one hand to use, so that could be why it was left out. And there's another thing. When Nintendo screws up, nobody analyzes what what went wrong and why. People just start hating, and that never helps.
@lightning A free pass from who? There has been nothing but doom articles about the Big N as of late. When Wii was going on there was nothing but "no 3rd party support" or poor sales of 3rd parties stories throughout N4G. Then look at some of the past posts for all Wii articles. Its the one place where fans of 360/ps3 come together and unite to bash the Wii. I think the one system that takes the most crap on this site is the Wii. It has less interest on this site unless compared to 360/ps3.
It's definitely one of the most criticized...
everyone just wants to see nintendo crash and burn and are jumping onto every little thing they do and scrutinizing it to high hell. That's what happens when your number one in the industry
to the disagree's, see all the doom and gloom articles about nintendo and the 3ds lalely, it's ridiculous
Oh please. Nintendo excluded AN ENTIRE STICK (well, "circle pad"/nub). Dual sticks have become de facto. And now developers want to use it, and until they release a new SKU with it included, early 3DS buyers will have to spend EVEN MORE for a massive tumor for their 3DS all for a little circle pad (For the "option" of not having crappy MH controls, and for future games). Developers won't be able to make it standard to use two circle pads in a long time, if EVER. Bad move for the customer, bad move for developers, and bad move for Nintendo. All of the "recent doom and gloom" towards the 3DS has been rather justified. Nothing about it has been going swimmingly, and its future doesn't really look THAT much brighter. People don't have to "WANT" to see Nintendo crash and burn; if you haven't been paying attention, Nintendo has been doing that pretty well on their own. Stocks have gone down dramatically, Wii has almost nothing left in its lineup, and the 3DS isn't doing as well as it could have if they had done things right.
As far as i remember most people praised the DS which is the number 1 handheld. The only thing people want to crash and burn is that add on analog stick.
lol wait till mario comes out.
So glad I didn't jump the hype train and buy the 3DS launch day, instead I'll wait for more worthwhile games and a redesign.
But what if alot of great games come out with no redesign, so you buy it anyway? And two days later.... A redesign is announced? Just something everyone waiting to buy a 3DS, or any new gaming platform, should consider.
nintendo mentioned that they wanted the 3ds to act as a WiiU remote and if you look at how it looks with the add on, it looks like the WiiU remote. This add on will only make it smaller if not the same size as the psvita with one advantage is you can take it off when not needed for space.
"while it is hard to say without hands-on time, the Circle Pad jutting out looks like it may make reaching the face buttons and touchscreen a bit inconvenient." ...I love when people shut down things they haven't even tried yet.
I agree with the author that Nintendo screwed up big time with the 3DS design. They should have improved the battery life and added a second circle pad to the console since day one. Now its pretty obvious that the next 3DS will have vastly improved battery life and a second circle pad. Anyways i would not even buy a 3DS used because to me it isnt worth it. I will just wait for the redesign which will give me the extra circle pad and better battery life. Nintendo really should have spent more time designing the 3DS instead of rushing it out of the market with a poor lineup and battery life. Anyways i am sure that Nintendo will learn so in the end it isnt a big deal just a nuisance in the beginning.
I was just about to get a 3DS before all this started but now i dont know what to do. Would Nintendo really announce a newer version this early in the 3DS' life?.
get one. worst case scenario is you have to buy an add on.
I am pretty confident that this move (if true) is because Nintendo is very scared against the VITA. They aren't confident with their 3D and exclusives. Sony has an equally or more tempting offer: No headeaches, no hassle, 2 nubs. Goodluck Nintendo, I do not want "monopoly" with the current-next gen dedicated handheld machines.
Once the games start rolling in, people will forget all about this mess. As for the add on circle pad...I don't ever want to hear about how Nintendo are the leaders in innovation again. If they were the innovative company that so many claim them to be, a second circle pad would have been built into the original design.
The actual technology behind the 3D screen means it can't get much bigger, meaning when it comes to physical screen size, the 3DS is certain to always be smaller than both versions of the DSi. Then there are the other flaws--the pitifully weak battery, the limitations of the 3D screen (both of which make it a weaker portable device than the NDS)... those aren't things that will just be forgotten. And, of course, they're not the biggest flaws of the platform. The biggest problem with the 3DS is its library (or lack thereof). And, face it, it's not like that's a problem that can get any WORSE. And know what else? It's also the exact kind of problem that people DO forget. Just think: how many times have you heard people bringing up the ****ty libraries the 360 and PS3 both had for their first few respective years on the market? What about the PS2's lackluster launch? Or, hell--shovelware on the DS? As soon as there's a significant amount of good, unique games for a platform, gamers are ready and willing to overlook every fault and flaw that platform may have. That's how it works. That's why even the worst hardware (*cough*360*uncough) can manage to be plenty popular if it has the software to support it.
Yea... im definitely waiting for the "remodeled" 3DS. With news of the add-on, it should be coming fairly soon (imo). But you're right, at least its not a Virtual Boy.
If Nintendo announce the circle pad and say it will be REQUIRED to play future games, I'll be the first on here to complain, because I have absolutely zero intention of attaching that thing to my console. In fact, I'd sell my 3DS and never support Nintendo again. But I really don't think that will happen. It could just be an add on for Monster Hunter - and key point, it has already been announced that you can play the game without it. I know hardcore gamers claim that twin sticks are necessary, but for the games that will come out on the 3DS, they really aren't. Nintendo doesn't do First Person Shooters. Somehow, people have confused "Optional twin stick add-on for use with one game" with "ZOMG! This is a betrayal! We won't be able to play games without an extra stick now!1111111"
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