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What Square Enix Games Sold Well Last Year?

Siliconera: "Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride and Dissidia: Final Fantasy were Square Enix's big sellers racking up over two million units sold in Japan alone. In North America its a different story..."

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TheHater5454d ago

I don't see a PS3 game on that list. I wonder why?.....Oh wait Square Enix haven't release a PS3 game this generation. I don't count that cell phone port for Xbox live and the PSN as a game.
I find it very funny that WKC and Star Ocean 4 sold almost the same, but WKC hasn't been release outside of Japan as yet.

40cal5454d ago

Needs to realize that the majority of there games fan base are also PlayStation consumers. They should know this based off of the PSone, PS2, and PSP game sales.

I would have bought Star Ocean 4 for PS3 as I played the others on PS2, but know I don't even care about Star Ocean anymore. And don't tell me to buy a 360, I did, at launch, broke ass POS, never buying another one.

Anyways I will be picking up Final Fantasy XIII, VS. XIII, XIII Agito, Advent Children Complete on Blu-Ray and Dissida for PSP. But I think that Square shot themselves in the foot with the western market this gen.

kevnb5454d ago (Edited 5454d ago )

the games that were released on xbox 360 wouldnt have sold all that well on ps3 either, they were mostly unpolished and more of an experiment. Star Ocean 4 isn't near as good as 3 was, thus it didn't sell as well. WKC sold really well for the ps3 so far, it seems like a really good game though... better than any 360 jrpg thus the good sales. At the end of the day, you have to realize most jrpgs sell 500,000 copies tops, don't fool yourself into thinking the ps2 ones mostly sold better than that... xeno series, final fantasy, dragon quest, a few level 5 games, and random flukes are the only jrpgs to push a million. Anyway, square is still working on the better games, the games they have released would of needed another year or two to be AAA.

40cal5454d ago

Foolish my ass.

I guarantee you that there are more JRPG fans in the PS3 install base than there are in the 360's install base. Anyone who dose not see this is the real fool.

kevnb5454d ago

the numbers show otherwise, its about the same. The only real argument is that the 360 install base isn't that strong in japan... but just look at the sales for a great game like persona 3 or 4 to see how much western playstation owners love jrpgs, lol. I mean it doesnt matter, but stop whining, sqaure hasn't released a polished next gen game yet... these 50 hour games take time you know.

40cal5454d ago (Edited 5454d ago )

What? The numbers show what exactly? That Square was foolish to put games like Star Ocean on the 360 when the games fan base is OBVOUSLY not there.

And easy there guy, I gave up whining when I was about 8, you know, 20 years ago.

I do agree with you that Square has yet to polish a game for this gen, but it is still silly to alienate your existing fan base, a fan base that has been built over the course of the last 18 years and 2 console generations.

kevnb5454d ago (Edited 5454d ago )

oh cmon, just because star ocean 3 sold well doesn't mean this was a stupid move. Star Ocean 4 just isn't up to par, it would have sold about the same on ps3. The other Star Ocean titles never sold all that great, personally Id take Valkyria Chronicles, WKC, FF XIII vs, Demons Souls etc... over a subpar entry in the Star Ocean series. Heck the sales for Valkyria Chronicles and Eternal Sonata on ps3 probably have scared jrpg devs away from the ps3.

40cal5454d ago (Edited 5454d ago )

Oh hells yeah, I would also rather get my hands on Valkyria Chronicles, WKC, FF XIII vs, Demons Souls etc... over this subpar entry in the Star Ocean series.

As for Star Ocean 4 sales being the same on both systems, I agree with you if it came out for both systems, but I really do believe that it would have sold better as a PS3 exclusive. It might not have been by much but another couple hundred or thousand copies is still more.

The sales for Valkyria Chronicles and Eternal Sonata where poor. Eternal Sonata came out late on the PS3, we know that games that come to the other console later don't do that well. As for Valkyria Chronicles? Most people don't even know this gem is out there unless your talking to people on the internet.

FarEastOrient5454d ago

Seeing how you guys are going at it, let's throw in that White Knight Chronicles, Demon Souls, and Valkyria Chronicles have outsold Star Ocean IV.

It will be interesting to see the sales of Tales of Vesperia (PS3 Version) which is the complete version coming to Japan in a few months. Please note that the PAL version hasn't been released yet too...

FamilyGuy5454d ago

Star Ocean 4, sub-par or not would have sold at least twice as many copies on PS3 had it been released. Even more than that had it been exclusive.
You're fooling yourself if think otherwise. PS3 owners in all regions wanted that game.

"It wasn't as good as SO3"
It wouldn't need to be, a well-known franchise sells well based off name alone as long as it's available to its fan base. Word of mouth does not sway a fan, they will still purchase and judge for themselves.

I'm still hoping it's one of those closed-lips timed exclusives where it will be available on other consoles but it can't be talked about/made known for a period of time.

Sarick5454d ago

They been releasing a lot of there titles on 360 only. They get a lot of income from their online games. One happens to be the 360 version of FFXI, there currently is no PS3 version of this online game. Sony only has the outdated one that is hard to find because most of the hardware and software for the PS2 was discontinued.

Check is link.

http://www.jpbutton.com/?p=...

On a Side not, I believe this online tile they're making called rapture might be "tied in with the console universe of 13 this gen." Giving fans a reason to proceed further into this universe. That's just an opinion though.

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1233605454d ago

800,000 worldwide for two 360 games by square,not good at all considering the cost of these versus the ds,psp titles selling in excess of both in japan only.i don,t know how much MS spent on them two titles but a loss is incoming big time.

UltimateIdiot9115454d ago

Don't forget how there are 28 million 360 owners out there. I still can't figure out what SE is thinking. Just because there is a large base of owners doesn't mean there is a large amount of audience.

It's like grabbing a 10 lb pie but only 2% is eatable and ignoring the 8 lb pie with 40% of it being eatable.

kevnb5454d ago

with jrpg games not named final fantasy or dragon quest, of course there are random flukes but cmon, do some research.

Erratic5454d ago (Edited 5454d ago )

Wow, trying to appeal to the western market was very ineffective. I can understand that they'd want to try but if they don't make a game in a genre popular in the West, but try to westernize JRPGs, they're bound to fail.

Ouch, 420k for Star Ocean 4... Star Ocean 3 sold 1.2 million in Japan and the US alone, and with the numbers from Europe it'd most likely be closer 1.8 at least. Therefore, it's a safe bet that we're going to get a Ps3 announcement soon, TGS at the latest.

Erratic5454d ago

I just remembered that SO4 has not yet been released in Europe. Still, I'd imagine that even though some parts of SO3 were a huge turn-off (the twist, oh how we love it :/), I can't imagine that ~800k would just give up on the series.

TheHater5454d ago

That "twist" sucked balls. I hate Star Ocean because of that.

UltimateIdiot9115454d ago

I see nothing wrong with appealing to the western market but the problem is that they are appealing to the wrong crowd of western market.

I know many who purchased a PS3 who are waiting for JRPG. There are a lot of PS3 owners out there in the West and many of them are fans of JRPG. I think it's pretty obvious where the money is.
The friends I know who own a 360 don't care about JRPG, in fact one of my friend, refuse to buy anything Japanese. He owns a 360 and zero titles from Japan.

Xephon085454d ago

UltimateIdiot911 said it best
last generation ps2 was where jrpg's were successful and thats where the crowd is in the west. If sqare were to release one game like say star ocean on the ps3 it would most likely outsell all their xbox360 releases combined.

I can't wait to see FFXIII japanese numbers it will probably outsell all 360 stuff worldwide.

I don't mind the multi-plat strategy but leaving your biggest cash cow out of games isn't wise.

kevnb5454d ago

star ocean 3 is the only star ocean game that has sold well, dont pretend otherwise. Take a look at how the other star ocean games sold so far, jrpgs don't sell well for the most part... get over it.

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SpoonyRedMage5454d ago (Edited 5454d ago )

The Last Remnant could be more successful if they got to Takai to actually port it to the PS3 like it was supposed to be...

EDIT: Glad to see the portable games do well though, they've been much better than the 360 games.

kevnb5454d ago

the last remnant just isnt good enough to sell all that well, 400,000 copies for a game that most consider to be either ok or terrible is great.

SpoonyRedMage5454d ago

Well I personally like the game and I think if they release it on the PS3 they can still get a 100 or more thousand sales.

QSPR5454d ago

WADA is KILLING SE, please can some one kill that clown??

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 1h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle12h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning774h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga12h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218311h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan6h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus235h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv724h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10114h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos14h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-4h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac13h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10113h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic11h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead4h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

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thorstein1d ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno20h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k419h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson18h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu19h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson18h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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The INDIE Live Expo 2024 event is to feature over 100 game titles

INDIE Live Expo, Japan’s premiere online digital showcase series , will debut never-before-seen games & content updates across more than 100 titles on May 25th.

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