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I'm Worried For Microsoft's Next Console

Nathan Manning, Editor for AnalogAddictio, expresses his concerns for the Microsoft's next console.

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StrongMan4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

You should worry. I have decided not to buy the next Xbox. It's clear to me that MS don't care about the hardcore gamers like myself. All they want are the casuals now. They won't fool me twice. I'm tired of just Halo and Gears and those kiddy Kinect shovel ware games don't interest me. MS lost the hardcore this gen and that's why they are in last place and I don't see the next Xbox being a hit with the hardcore.

@Walker

But if I can buy those same "many hardcore and triple-a" multi plat titles on my PS4 then why would I buy an Xbox 720. Like the author and myself said the Xbox needs more hardcore exclusives. Kinect Sesamestreet and Kinect Disneyland don't count.

Walker4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

Many hardcore and triple-a titles are on the way for next generation xbox . donot worry:).

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talisker4116d ago

I heard the same 3 years ago and the same about hardcore Kinect titles. It turned out to be just a lie from Microsoft. I'm not wasting my money again. They lost all credibility in my eyes.

tehpees34116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

There will be hardcore games I'm sure of that but the question is how much focus Microsoft give there.

Their software output might not effect the majority of Xbox fanboys but it looks bad compared to their competitor's offerings for average gamers.

For every piece of shovelware they put out on Kinect those could be resources used for a long lost sequel. For every contract signed for timed DLC/exclusives that could be money well invested in new IPs. Then you have the heavier focus on making it into an entertainment device rather then a gaming device.

Pachter might agree with it but I don't believe gamers will. Microsoft are actually the ones in danger of making the most mistakes because they have the least experience in launching hardware.

They are an American company in an American mind set and that will bite them in the rear next time. I am sure of that.

pompombrum4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

Meh, Microsoft will spend more time this E3 rambling on about it's entertainment features than the great exclusives that will be coming out this year with the console. I hope they prove me wrong but I've lost faith in Microsoft as a company that caters to it's hardcore gaming fanbase.

If they do take this approach, I really hope it bites them in the ass.. they'll probably throw so much money at marketing the console that it would be near impossible for it to fail. Still, can only hope that by not focusing on the ones most likely to be early adopters, will bite them in the ass and force them to appreciate the real gamers a bit more.

DOMination-4116d ago

How many times do I have to post this!

Microsoft have spent the last 18 months buying up first party talent. They own 21 first party studios. That's 9 more than Sony. If you look into those studios, they are all developing games for next gen, many of which are new IP.

That doesn't mean they'll be amazing, it's largely an unknown as all but 6-7 are new studios but for me, it shows MS are trying to fix one of the fair criticisms aimed at them over the last few years.

I think we should wait until e3 to judge where they are heading. You may well be right, but I have a genuine feeling a lot of people around here will be surprised.

Enemy4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

What do people honestly expect out of the next Xbox? I'm legit curious. It's not like Microsoft have acquired any new developers to call their own. They have 343 but you could bet Microsoft will keep them on Halo. It's not like they bought Epic (Epic themselves said the Xbox division can't afford them). It's not like they've been building a strong 1st party lineup.

They could have bought THQ and made Saints Row, Metro, and Darksiders exclusive to Xbox. If they'd done this, I'd easily purchase the next Xbox.

For now, all we have to go by is that they'll be as good as they were this gen. DLC, Kinect, Halo, and Gears (if it doesn't go multiplatform as Epic owns the IP).

It really does seem like they've changed their ways. Their "better with Kinect" commercials should worry all Xbox fanatics.

EVILDEAD3604116d ago

As a gamer that's owned both the original giant and the 360 at both of their launch windows, I actually believe MS is in it's best position to deliver the goods than they ever have been.

MS is in the driver's seat of it's own destiny at this point.

Xbox Live is going to be huge for the early adopters. MS just needs to keep improving it at the same clip that they have this gen.

EVERY system relies on it's go-to franchises when the move onto the next gen. In MS case they had the #1 selling hardcore exclusive franchise this gen among it's big games. In this department, MS has the anchor it needs to improve upon next gen.

As for the system itself, regardless of whether the rumors of specs are true, MS clearly took the next system seriously and it will be more powerful than the 360. How powerful is up in the air.

It's going to be fun to see what comes out of E3, but I like what I'm hearing so far out of that camp.

Evil

DigitalRaptor4116d ago

@ Enemy.

At least give credit where it's due. Microsoft have actually strengthened their first party by opening up new studios and partnering with others, which is one of the points which we've been driving for a while. Whether the developers will deliver is another matter entirely.

AsimLeonheart4116d ago

I just remembered an article that published by a reputed business website when the first XBOX launched. I do not remember the website today but the article made a very important prediction which I still remember because it is becoming true. The author said that MS was using XBOX as a trojan horse to take over the living rooms. They will introduce it as a games console, slowly introduce other functionalities, develop it into a fully functional media hub and in the end abandon or put gaming in the background. It sounded so far-fetched at the time but amazingly today it is becoming a reality. IMO the next XBOX is the final stage of the plan MS put into action several years ago.

BrianC62344115d ago

" I do think they may bring some new exclusive IP for the Next gen Xbox. I really want some good new hardcore exclusive games. "

But Microsoft dumped most of their development teams and care more about third party games now. They won't get many exclusives that way.

slimpickens4115d ago

TO be honest nobody knows what to expect from MS! They can either come out hard fighting it's criticisms or keep going the way they are going.
It appears to me as if something happened when the rrod, Peter Moore quitting episode happened.

People can judge MS all they want but I will give them the benefit of the doubt even though I've felt let down for the past few years. They've added new studios and still offer the best console online gaming experience for me. Exclusives like Halo don't matter as long as they keep improving (yes I want more exclusives)the game. Tons of games are under the MS umbrella with more coming. All the hate will be here no matter what by the same people that strictly back there preference. NO matter what MS does they will complain it's not good enough.

At the end of the day I'm just happy to be a gamer. What ever console you like more power to you.

Temporary4115d ago

If they make online play free on the Xbox Next, I'll probably pick it up.

Definitely not falling for the LIVE scam again.

Leviathan4115d ago

@ DOMination: Microsoft has Rare, Lionhead, Turn 10 and 343. Those are the only studios that make non-kinekt AAA disc based games.They can own a thousand studios for all I care. If they only make downloadable mini-games or kinekt games then it's pointless for the hard core gamers. Here's a link for you to check for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

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WiiUsauce4116d ago

woah, a Sony fanboy saying he won't buy anything other than a Sony console. Damn that's the first time I've ever seen this.

iamnsuperman4116d ago

No offence but saying your not going to buy it with a giant PSN plus logo as your avatar speaks volumes. Wait till it is released. I am less inclined, at the moment, to buy it but I am not ruling it out just yet

ElectricKaibutsu4116d ago

I wouldn't rule it out either but I don't like region locked systems and I definitely don't like paying for basic online. They'd have to change those two things and get a bunch of great exclusives. I have nothing against Xbox specifically of course.

MarkusMcNugen4115d ago

@ElectricKaibutsu

Just FYI, there has been no mention that the PS4 will be region free. It may be, it may not.

DOMination-4115d ago (Edited 4115d ago )

@Leviathan:

Blind ignorance. Im well aware of that article. How do you know they are all kinect or downloadable games? Their projects haven't been revealed. Yes they have two casual studios and no doubt they will continue with the type if games you mention but then so does Sony. There's no evidence to suggest what you're saying.

MS Redmond, MS LA, Press Play, Black Task, MS Victoria, MS Soho, Twisted Pixel, platform Next Studios, Connected Experiences and Lift are all working on new untitled projects. But if you want to keep believing they are all developing kinect shareware then you do that and we will see at e3.

dedicatedtogamers4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

A lot of people - even people like you who SWEAR they won't touch the Nextbox - will buy it anyway.

That's because Microsoft always does an excellent job marketing their new products. NextBox will launch. The journalists will shout about how it is revolutionary, how it is the best console ever. You'll see endless articles titled "10 Reasons the NextBox is better than the PS4/WiiU". You'll see familiar franchises like Halo, Gears, Forza, and...oh? What's this? Some brand-new IP exclusive shooter? Or RPG? Or open-world game? Maybe a new Killer Instinct finally? Maybe another Banjo game? What?!? "Oh man, you HAVE to try this out" says the internet. You will get excited. You will doubt your apprehension.

And then Microsoft will come out with some sort of deal, like "Sign up for 2 years of LIVE and get $100 off the NextBox". And you'll buy it.

For the first two or three years, you'll be very happy. You'll write a blog post about how "I'm glad I was wrong about the NextBox." You'll gush about all the games you're enjoying. And this will last for the first two or three years.

Then, the exclusives will die down. No, not immediately. It will slowly trickle down. But you'll tell yourself "It's okay" because Microsoft will update the NextBox dashboard for free, or they'll announce some exclusive DLC for GTA6 or Fallout 4. You'll start to doubt again, but you won't get rid of your NextBox. No, you already have too much invested.

Then, the hardcore support will REALLY drop off, and you'll be saying what you're saying now: "Man, I will never buy another Xbox again. Microsoft has tricked me for the last time".

stage884116d ago

Well said. It will be exactly the same with history repeating itself. People need to open their eyes and see through the marketing schemes. USA I'm looking at you.

pompombrum4116d ago

Sounds like my feelings throughout xbox 360s history, started off great, started going sour and now it's just pathetic. Only 360 only game I bought last year was Halo 4 and even that turned out to be a disappointment in the end and the developers taking over four months to release a balancing patch.

Oh_Yeah4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

Not happening man, I'll wait 2+ years before I buy the nextbox what they did this gen was inexcusable. I'll only get it if live is free and they have atleast 10 exclusives I like.

Monkeycan84116d ago

Yes "exclusive" DLC for GTA 6 and Fallout 4 just like the "exclusive" DLC for GTA 4 and Fallout 3..

Pillsbury14116d ago

Couldn't have said it better myself. M$ is king of marketing, look at how they shoved there way into consoles with the original Xbox.

Gazondaily4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

This is the excuse Sony fanboys are going to be prepping up if the 720 or nextbox or whatever is called, launches with a killer line-up.

In reality, what has happened this generation is that the 360 has had an abundance of games and fanboys on here are quick to downplay the quality of the killer apps the 360 has whilst ignoring the sheer quality and strength of the multiplats on offer.

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IAMERROR4116d ago

lol Strongman, you've never had an Xbox let's not lie. you're the one that going to be missing out on all the great new games on the 720. But hey you'll still find a way to spin shit into a negative way because that's what happens when you're loyal to a piece of plastic. lolol

HarryMasonHerpderp4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

I think it's just a case of wait and see what they do before buying. I will no doubt buy a PS4 because they have supported the hardcore gamer every step of the way on every Sony console so that's a no brainer.
But I'm on the fence with the WiiU and the next Xbox because they seemed to forget about the gamers and put all of their resources into the casual market.
If they support the hardcore gamer as well as the casuals then I'll no doubt purchase them both.
It's all about the games and I want Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony to deliver.

Rebo004116d ago

@aiBreeze
Unless they're all developing next gen Kinect games...

Jek_Porkins4116d ago

You don't even have an Xbox 360, you have stalked a lot of my posts and even sent me messages hating on everything Microsoft and Nintendo. We get it, you love Sony. You even gave me some bogus Xbox Live Gamertag that you probably didn't expect me to check.

That being said, the next Xbox is exciting for a lot of reasons. The main reason is that Microsoft knows how to kick off a console generation. Looking back at the original Xbox and the Xbox 360's launch, they both had AMAZING lineups. Judging by the fact that most of Microsoft 20 odd first party studios haven't been doing anything with the 360 in over 3 years, it's a safe bet that they've been working on the next Xbox. Including Black Tusk's new core title, and we know Rare is working on at least 2 new games, one of which is supposed to be a first person shooter.

Of course it'll launch with Kinect 2.0, but as an option it shouldn't worry anyone, in 2012 Microsoft had the most core lineup of the big 3.

If you are going with Sony that is fine, but don't sit there and lie like you were ever going to buy an Xbox 360 or try to get people to hate blindly like you do.

Bumpmapping4116d ago

Yea they kick off this generation with great new IPs no doubt but that's where Microsoft failed with the 360.

They changed the dash board stopped supporting new IPs just doing sequels and spinoffs to well established games lot of the 360 fans love...Than comes Kinect shoving it down user base throats and increasing the price of Live.

Casuals first Hardcore second its going to be the same old song and dance next gen with 720 M$ cant cater to both sides.

legendof1174116d ago

@ StrongMan

I don't comment much on these articles, but I am always logged in checking this site out.

Every time I see your name it's on an Xbox article hating.

I don't go on to your beloved Playstation articles hating... now do I?

It's called respect.

AngelicIceDiamond4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

@Strong Hmph not to sound like a troll but Sony had a allot of failed Ips this gen.

Other than UE, infamous and LBP and Heavy Rain what other game was super successful on PlayStation? Soccom and MAG failed/shutdown Socom's not even a new Ip it was a highly rated PS2 Ip, Resistance despite having 3 games and the third being the highest rated failed.

Haze failed, MotorStom failed/shutdown Warhawk failed/Studio fell apart/ twisted metal 50 50 but still failed at the end. Agent never was, TLG is not around (until we hear otherwise) countless HD remakes for fillers

Some of those are old Ips but majority are new Ip's NEW IP'S. I don't have hate in my blood nor troll in my blood but this weak kid force my hand.

I don't know why people are worried. only the internet and N4G are worried while the rest of us are ready to see what MS brings to the table. A overhauled Live experienced, great new entertainment features and most and far more importantly NEW IP's. As I said N4G and the internet are worried but the rest of us aren't.

raytraceme4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

You failed to mention huge successes like god of war, metal gear solid 4, MLB the Show, killzone, ratchet and clank (main series), and gran turismo ;)

JoySticksFTW4116d ago

And Demon's Souls was successful as well.

and Warhawk was great

Really what defines failure in your book?

trouble_bubble4115d ago (Edited 4115d ago )

@angelicicediamond
You clearly haven't done your homework. Like, at all. It's almost scary.

God of War was successful, both part 3 and the HD collection sold millions and have meta averages over 90%.

MAG didn't fail lmao, it was a new IP online only shooter that sold over a million, better than games like Crackdown 2 and Forza Horizons.

Yakuza 3 sold over a million too.

Motorstorm sold millions too, I have no idea where on earth you get your ideas from.

Resistance didn't fail, part one sold over 4 million, they've all passed a million actually and part 3 was NOT the highest rated, part 2 was with an 87% metacritic average. You literally did NO homework, no clue.

Killzone? Never heard of it? Sold a few million, 91% meta avg for KZ2.

Warhawk sold over a million as well, online only.

Twisted Metal, a niche car combat game sold on par with Witcher 2 Assassins of Kings, one of the highest rated console exclusives last year on 360. What's the problem?

Never heard of Demon's Souls either? New IP, won GOTY from Gamespot, sold over a million, spun off to Dark Souls on the 360

MGS4 is over 90% on meta and sold millions, Gran Turismo 5 is at 9 million, Valkyria Chronicles was another new IP that came out of left field nowhere to sell over a million alongside stalwarts like Ratchet and Clank. 4 different genres, all successful.

Journey won a bunch of GOTYs last year including from IGN and Gamespot, NiNoKuni just came out and is the highest rated game of the year so far. So yeah, no. Calling all those 'failed IPs' is disingenuous. Credit where its due.

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UnholyLight4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

Kind of stupid at this point to be worried. I have no doubt in my mind that Microsoft will deliver. I will be purchasing both consoles this time around as well.

Can anyone wait to see what will be offered before saying "we're doomed if we buy a Nextbox"

I mean, you don't see me running around sayin Sony is failing because some of their IP's don't interest me. I have faith in both companies that they will bring their game 140% when the new stuff is on it's way. Microsoft has learned a lot of lessons with Kinect and the way they treated gamers. Yes, we stopped having IP's but it is BLATANTLY obvious that there will be many ready to go within the first 2 years of Nextbox's life cycle. MARK MY WORDS, I'm saying it now, the Nextbox is far from something that worries me. I look forward to many happy years with it, alongside what Playstation will offer me this go around. I just don't wanna miss out on the Killzones and stuff like that!!

Jason1434116d ago

Thanks saved me the trouble. I actually left xbox when they integrated the kiddie dashboard and was sad to see the games stopped shortly afterward. Ill stick with pc for now unless I see 5+ games on a next gen that I cant live without.M$ really let us down this gen imo

Tales RPG addict4116d ago

I never once bought into the Kinect bullshit and as ANGRY JOE says it's an inferior piece of Tech that only works when it wants to.

strifeblade4115d ago

last place lol, xbox took the half of the playstation 2 market share. what happemed to 150 million who bought ps2? oh ya they all bought ps3... but wait ps3 only sold 70 million? oh ya thats right the other 70 million bought xbox. what does that mean? xbox took 50% of ps3 market share as well as nintendo dominaTING THE SALES WITH WII. funny how things change? the successor to the best selling console of all time came up with less than half and the successor to xbox managed to triple its sales. MY OH MY HOW THINGS CHANGE- PS2 IS NO LONGER THE BEST SELLING CONSOLE- THE DS SURPASSED IT.

sorry but the sony fanboyism on this site is unreal.

dcbronco4115d ago

Yeah, we know MS doesn't care about the hardcore because when they announced their new console and all of it's games. The games were all for Kinect. What else is going on in the future?

Y_51504115d ago

People can't take you seriously when you have that PS+ symbol as your Profile pic.

N4GDgAPc4115d ago

Well how I picture it the reason why you don't see much exclusives coming out for 360 is that they are moving on already. I bet they have there teams focusing on 720 only. Just like Xbox when 720 comes out there not going to care about 360.

otherZinc4115d ago (Edited 4115d ago )

This dude is a liar!

I stopped reading when he said he no longer see advertisements for new game...WTF? That's the largest picture on the damn front page.

Also, I turned on my 360 & saw the demo of Metal Gear Rising...ON THE FRONT FRIGGIN PAGE!!!!! Downloaded the demo in 16 minutes and played the demo.

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WiiUsauce4116d ago

worry about yourself. Microsoft has so much money, if they really wanted to, they could release an 8 bit console as their 8th generation machine just to troll the world. I would buy a brand new 8-bit gaming console though... Halo 8-bit would look so cool with some awesome chip tune music to boot :)

iamnsuperman4116d ago

I think if they released a small Halo downloadable 8-bit game I think a lot if people would buy it. It doesn't have to be serious but I wouldn't mind seeing big franchises turned into small 8-bit games for a couple of quid

IAMERROR4116d ago

omggg I want! It would be the best XBLA title!

JoySticksFTW4115d ago

Um, someone so needs to release Xbox 8-bit

Not even kidding. Making it downloadable is a good idea.

ChrisW4115d ago (Edited 4115d ago )

A decent side-scrolling 8-bit Halo game? Just reskin Contra!!!

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ZoyosJD4115d ago (Edited 4115d ago )

Look up Halo Zero.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/...

Fan made, but great little game. Pretty much exactly what you described.

BanBrother4116d ago

As a multi-console owner, I can honestly say I am disappointed with the 360. I don't mean in that bratty fanboy way either, as the exclusives that the 360 has are very good. It is just that there is a lack of variety and not many new IP's in ages.

I know I will be picking up a PS4 before I pick up a '720', that's for sure. Until MS prove to me that they want MY money by adding more new IP's (non-kinect ffs), I'll just wait patiently. I'm only uber excited for Alan wake 2 and Lost Odyssey 2 anyway, and LO2 will probably never happen.

dazzrazz4116d ago

You sound like Sony is pumping exclusive title every month Oh boy ! Some people don't give a shit about couple of branded IP's at all !

As a gamers we should be concerned how much publishers are gonna try to rape us with micro-transactions, dlc and other stupid shit they inventing recently

BanBrother4116d ago

dazzrazz

Remember, you don't owe MS anything. We as consumers have the right to ask for more. You can't deny that you would prefer more exclusives. I know some people are saying they don't 'need' any, in defence to what some fanboys say to them, but the truth is exclusives do matter, and they are mostly always excellent.

I used to think "blah blah, who cares", but the truth is I am disappointed. Next-gen there is no excuse. Both PS4 and Xbox will have the same multi-plats, but the PS4 will again, most likely have much more variety in their exclusives.

Don't get me wrong, I am one of the biggest Halo fans there is, but sometimes it isn't enough. Especially with new consoles costing a fortune (at least where I live), I will have to 'buy smart'.

I show no loyalty to a company who shows me none. I'm not saying I am in love with Sony, but damn, they are loyal to their core fans, the ones who have supported them since the 90's.

ZoyosJD4115d ago

You see, the thing is...they practically are.

Jan. - ki no kuni

Feb. - sly cooper

Mar. - GOW: A

Apr. - ???

May. - TLOU

Jun. - ???...also E3 reveals

possible games for ??? months: FF14, Beyond: Two Souls, Tales of Xilia, Dust 514.

Unless your just being a fanboy, something on that list should interest you.

If DLC, micro-transactions, etc. aren't worth my money, I don't buy. Simple as that.

zerocrossing4116d ago

Man we need a LO2, first one was bloody awesome! It's a shame the 360 didn't get more JRPG's but lagging in Japan probably contributed to that. :/

nukeitall4116d ago

The problem you see is that consumers don't want exclusives. How many new exclusive sell compared to existing ips?

As consumers we voted with our money, and I am no exception. I have been eyeing a couple of new ips, but I bought ME3, Black Ops2, Halo 4 and been hesitantly considering XCOM and Dishonored. However, I decided to wait until it drops in price before I take a risk.

The people that scream new ips are in a minority, and developers will treat it as such.

Ezz20134116d ago

no that's far from the truth and just an excuse why MS don't offer exclusives any more

here
http://n4g.com/news/1160622...
http://n4g.com/news/1161025...

jetlian4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

both those games wont come close to the games he mentioned and we dont know how many of those LEs they made.

What was the best selling ps3 exclusive last year? None were worth anything. Not one AAA game from sony last year. Sony has exclusives nobody wants!

Ezz20134116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

@jetlian

last year there was no AAA games outside of journey which was thebest selling psn game of this gen
http://www.destructoid.com/...
and the one who won most GOTY awards last year too

and in 2011 uncharted 3,kz3,LBP2,infamous 2 etc
all of them sold from 2 to 6 million

ps3 exclusives all of them sell from 2 million to 9 million

i thought we over this "ps3 exclusives don't sell" BS

jetlian4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

journey as in the psn game?! yea thought so. last year all l heard was xbla and kinect games dont count lol

Didnt l say last year as in 2012? l think l did! who said they dont sell? And the games you mentioned some barely made 2 million if that.

Nuke was making a point mp games are getting the most attention. infamous 2 did terrible until it ps+ as did kz3. uncharted was bundle for over a year and lbp2 didnt sell as good as 1

Ezz20134116d ago

@jetlian

""journey as in the psn game?! yea thought so. last year all l heard was xbla and kinect games dont count lol""

did you saw me say that ?!
and psn game is ps3 exclusive right ?!
so my point still stands

"Didnt l say last year as in 2012? l think l did! who said they dont sell? And the games you mentioned some barely made 2 million if that.

Nuke was making a point mp games are getting the most attention. infamous 2 did terrible until it ps+ as did kz3. uncharted was bundle for over a year and lbp2 didnt sell as good as 1 "

LBP 2 sold over 3m
Infamous 2 sold over 2m and i'm not talking about the psn sales here
only the retail here so both retail+psn is over 3-4million each

uncharted 3 close to almost 6 million
killzone 3 almost 3 million

and uncharted 3 get bundles the same as all xbox exclusives
who also get i day one like halo4 and gears3 etc

MrBeatdown4116d ago

Maybe if more new IPs were released, we'd see more of them selling.

You pretend people aren't interested in new exclusives, but what new 360 exclusives have there been to be interested in? Just Dance? Kinect [Insert generic title here]?

Seriously, the last new high profile IP out of Microsoft was Alan Wake three years ago. Before that it was Too Human in 2008. What else has there been? Ninja Blade? Kinectimals? Kind of hard to prove that a quality new exclusive doesn't interest gamers when Microsoft hasn't even introduced any significant new IPs in years. You're just treating an assumption as fact.

What's especially ironic is that the 360 took off early on because of Gears, Dead Rising, Saints Row, Mass Effect, and Bioshock. All new IPs. All exclusive, and all stood out, even when competing with stuff like Call of Duty and Halo.

Pretend all you want that new exclusives are something consumers aren't interested in. History has shown otherwise.

EVILDEAD3604116d ago

@ Nukeitall

I disagree in saying that there are people who don't want exclusives. But, definately agree that just because a game is exclusive or it's a new IP that it's somehow more anticipated or received by the gamers simply for that fact.

Ezz is right that there were people that blew off XBLA games every year. But after Walking Dead and Journey those games are finally getting love.

'You pretend people aren't interested in new exclusives, but what new 360 exclusives have there been to be interested in? Just Dance? Kinect [Insert generic title here]?'

Actually, Forza Horizon isn't even close to a Kinect game or a generic title. But for the record Just Dance is a Move game as well as Kinect.

'Seriously, the last new high profile IP out of Microsoft was Alan Wake three years ago.'

If you are going to say this then anyone can see that the last new high profile IP out of Sony was Heavy Rain and thart actually came out BEFORE Alan Wake was released in the same year. So the truth is the new IP argument applies to BOTH Sony and MS, but certain people only pretend that it's only MS.

'What's especially ironic is that the 360 took off early on because of Gears, Dead Rising, Saints Row, Mass Effect, and Bioshock. All new IPs. All exclusive, and all stood out, even when competing with stuff like Call of Duty and Halo.'

The actual irony of the people who criticize MS for the games that were popular early in the gen is that Sony has literally done the exact same thing. (But gets NO criticism).

What we have seenfrom ALL consoles is they release new Ips thoughout it's life cycle and the successful ones get sequels. Some go multiplat but still remain on the original system.

With MS it was Halo (3, ODST, Wars,Reach, H4) ,Gears (1,2, 3, & the prequel), COD 2 (then 3,4,WOW 1&2,MW 1&2,BO 1&2), Elder Scrolls (Oblivion,Skyrim), Mass Effect (1,2,&3), Rainbox Six Vegas (1&2), Fable (2,3),Crackdown (1&2), Dead Rising (1&2), Forza (2,3,4, Horizon),Burnout (Revenge & Paradise), GRAW (1,2,Future), Lost Planet (1&2), L4D (1&2), Bioshock (1,2, Infinite), Condemned (1&2)...

The list goes on and on spanning over seven years.

The PS3 as well with Resistance, Motostorm, Little Big Planet, Killzone, Uncharted, God of War, Gran Turismo, Infamous, etc, etc. All were successful and got multiple titles throughout the year.

Both Sony and MS have Dance games, exercise games, kiddie games, casual games..

MS doesnt need to emulate what Sony does to be succdessful and still keep their core gamers happy and neither does Sony need to emiulate MS to be successful, but it's clear that both have similiar strategies.

Evil

MrBeatdown4115d ago (Edited 4115d ago )

@EVIL

Of course you would take issue with common sense, and of course it's all to defend Microsoft, rather than respond to the actual point of my comment about gamers' interest in new IPs...

"Actually, Forza Horizon isn't even close to a Kinect game or a generic title. But for the record Just Dance is a Move game as well as Kinect."

Yeah, see, that's why I didn't call it a Kinect game or a game with a generic Kinect name like Kinect Sports or Kinect Adventures.

It's not a new IP. It's a Forza game. I'm not going to pretend Starhawk isn't the same IP as Warhawk just because it has major gameplay differences. I'm not going to pretend a Forza game isn't a Forza game for that same reason. At it's core, it's the same... a sim racer based on the same mechanics, just like Starhawk.

"If you are going to say this then anyone can see that the last new high profile IP out of Sony was Heavy Rain and thart actually came out BEFORE Alan Wake was released in the same year. So the truth is the new IP argument applies to BOTH Sony and MS, but certain people only pretend that it's only MS. "

You know why Sony can get away the past few years with a lack of new IPs? Because they don't need them. Their line-up is diverse enough as is. Their big games don't revolve around just three series getting sequels year after year. They have enough IPs to offer a diversity in their core line-up that Microsoft can't. Sony doesn't need the new IPs because they aren't dependent on Uncharted, Gran Turismo, and Killzone, the way Microsoft relies on Halo, Gears and Forza.

Sony has their supplements. They've got Resistance. MotorStorm. LittleBigPlanet. Infamous. Socom. Starhawk. Ratchet & Clank. All-Stars. Twisted Metal. Sly Cooper. That's TEN additional franchises.

That's just since 2011. What does Microsoft have to supplement Gears, Halo, and Forza in that same time frame? A Kinect dance game?

A lack of diversity is Microsoft's problem. New IPs are the solution. Sony doesn't need that solution, because they don't have the problem. But even then, Sony's still beating MS in new IPs.

But of course, certain people would prefer to ignore that truth, and ramble on about a list padded by timed 360 exclusives from 2006 and their multiplatform sequels as if they matter in a discussion of Microsoft's current crop of exclusives, and how open the gaming community is to new IPs.

jetlian4115d ago (Edited 4115d ago )

where did you get your numbers from kz3 was considered the worst selling in the series. Uncharted was bundled for over a year xbox gets seasonal bundles not a years worth.

ND never mention sells of it after the whole 3.8million in one day. Which was later changed to shipped WW. wheres the lbp2 numbers coming from never heard anything about it.

Point I was making last year oh sony has x amount of exclusives then most came and left like a fart in the wind.

we got twisted metal ,starhawk ,tales ,yakuza ,psa ,lbpk ,wonderbook, etc yea yea wheres the sales of all them.

EVILDEAD3604115d ago

'Of course you would take issue with common sense, and of course it's all to defend Microsoft, rather than respond to the actual point of my comment about gamers' interest in new IPs'

I simply pointed out that MS is approaching this gen the same as Sony. But see how you need to take shots first. Now if I take shots back then we know who will cry wolf, so I'll keep to what you have used about IPS out of your own mouth.

FIRST you say:

'Seriously, the last new high profile IP out of Microsoft was Alan Wake three years ago'

But when I inform you how it's been even longer for Sony you spin it to say:

'You know why Sony can get away the past few years with a lack of new IPs? Because they don't need them. Their line-up is diverse enough as is.'

So just to repeat..

MS lack of new IPs in 3 years = BAD
Sony lack of new IPs in 3 years = OK because they have a more 'diverse' line-up.

Sounds like an opinion and smells like hypocrisy.

So then your reasoning that Sony doesnt need New IPs is because since 2011 (edited at the last minute from 2008) they had 10 sequels??

So thanks for proving what I wrote in my first statement:

'What we have seen from ALL consoles is they release new Ips thoughout it's life cycle and the successful ones get sequels'

At the end of the day, regardless of opinions both MS and Sony have found success with the strategies they chose.

Evil

MrBeatdown4115d ago (Edited 4115d ago )

@EVIL

*****
"I simply pointed out that MS is approaching this gen the same as Sony. But see how you need to take shots first. Now if I take shots back then we know who will cry wolf, so I'll keep to what you have used about IPS out of your own mouth."
*****

Cry wolf? That's funny, considering every problem I've ever had with you stems from lies coming out of your mouth about me that were blatantly false. There's never been any "crying wolf", and I can back that up. Do we need to go down this road again?

I said you'd take issue with common sense to defend Microsoft, and that's exactly what you did. And that's exactly what you continue to do.

Let's recap. First I say...

*****
"Seriously, the last new high profile IP out of Microsoft was Alan Wake three years ago"
*****

An entirely true statement. You respond with...

*****
"But when I inform you how it's been even longer for Sony you spin it to say:

'You know why Sony can get away the past few years with a lack of new IPs? Because they don't need them. Their line-up is diverse enough as is.'

So just to repeat..

MS lack of new IPs in 3 years = BAD
Sony lack of new IPs in 3 years = OK because they have a more 'diverse' line-up.

Sounds like an opinion and smells like hypocrisy."
*****

You act as if I'm making excuses. You call it hypocrisy. That's it. You just dismiss it. Because I'm right. Actually disputing it would require an argument you don't have. All you could do was put "diverse" in quotes, as if it somehow makes my reasoning less valid. Diversity is what matters. A rotating selection of three IPs doesn't have it. A line-up of over a dozen in the same timeframe does. Only one has a problem, therefore only one needs a solution: New IPs.

******
"So then your reasoning that Sony doesnt need New IPs is because since 2011 (edited at the last minute from 2008) they had 10 sequels??

So thanks for proving what I wrote in my first statement:

'What we have seen from ALL consoles is they release new Ips thoughout it's life cycle and the successful ones get sequels'
*****

You act like I'm hiding from something. Editing 2008 out (even though I didn't) to pretend Microsoft hasn't released new IPs, ever. Yet I clearly mentioned Microsoft's games like Gears and Mass Effect and Too Human and Alan Wake before you showed up to play defense.

You act like I'm arguing that Microsoft has NEVER produced new IPs, when clearly I'm discussing their more recent strategy of relying on the same three IPs. I listed 2011 onward to prove a point. Microsoft moved away from producing anything outside of sequels to the same three franchises for two years, and it's clearly continuing on.

Three IPs. That's it. Versus what? A dozen or more IPs that Sony has released over the past few years. And two more new IPs are on the horizon. A huge, undeniable difference.

But you'd rather gloss over that. You try to make it sound like what MS and Sony do is identical... that they go through the same PROCESS...

"they release new Ips thoughout it's life cycle and the successful ones get sequels"

... but you blatantly ignore the RESULTS to make MS and Sony appear equal. Fact is, the results, and only the results are what matter.

That's reality. That's common sense. But like I said, that doesn't stop you from taking issue with it, because it doesn't favor Microsoft.

EVILDEAD3604115d ago (Edited 4115d ago )

@Beat

We know how when somone pins you in on an argument you just make new ones and derail the original argument.This will go on and on and on.

Here are YOUR arguments..your words..

About NEW Ips:

'Maybe if more NEW IPs were released, we'd see more of them selling. You pretend people aren't interested in NEW exclusives, but what new 360 exclusives have there been to be interested in? Just Dance? Kinect [Insert generic title here]?'
*****

FACT..Your argument is about NEW IPS. You go on to ask what 'NEW 360 exclusives' have there been to be interested in? The examples YOU use are Just Dance or a 'Generic Kinect game. I mention Forza Horizon as an example. FACTS

'Seriously, the last NEW high profile IP out of Microsoft was Alan Wake three years ago. Before that it was Too Human in 2008. What else has there been? Ninja Blade? Kinectimals? Kind of hard to prove that a quality NEW exclusive doesn't interest gamers when Microsoft hasn't even introduced any significant NEW IPs in years. You're just treating an assumption as fact.'

FACTS. You go out of your to say that the last 'NEW high profile IP' out of MS was Alan Wake 3 years ago and before that Too Human in 08. You mention NEW multiple times in fact I capitalized them so you know what YOU wrote.

I simply pointed out that Sony hadn't produced a 'New High profile IP' in 3 Years as well. which FACTUALLY was your original complaint about MS.

Your retort is:

'You know why Sony can get away the past few years with a lack of new IPs? Because they don't need them'

No one EVER asked you WHY Sony lacks New IPs, I simply pointed out that Sony as well as MS did not have a 'NEW High profile exclusive in 3 years'

Case Closed. The rest is your opinion making up fankid rules like your line-up has to be more diverse than my favorite consoles line-up to be legit.

We are in January of 2013. The 360 is the oldest console on the market this gen.

Let's compare your later theory of what was released on both consoles in 2012.

If you are going to claim that console exclusives in 2012 like Halo 4 (the biggest exclusive of the year), Witcher 2, Forza Horizon, Minecraft, Trials Evolution, Alan Wake Nightmares, Mark of the Ninja, Fez, Dance Central 3, Fable: The Journey etc. are not 'diverse' enough then maybe it's your opinion.

But maybe MS should have copied off of Sony and released Twisted Metal, Journey, StarHawk, AllStars, Wonderbook, Little Big planet Karting, Sorcery, Sports Champion 2 etc. because MS MUST release the exact kinds of games that Sony does to be diverse.

I could easily make an argument that I felt the 360 had the best line-up of console exclusives in comparison with the PS3 in 2012. But that is subjective and opinion. But one could also argue that just because you release more games than on your system than the others does not make those games or that system better or more relavant.

Just my take.

Evil

MrBeatdown4115d ago (Edited 4115d ago )

@EVIL

Lulz. That's precious. You think you've "pinned" me.

"Your argument is about NEW IPS"

Indeed it is. It's about new IPs. It's NOT about the lack of new IPs specifically being bad, which is what YOU make it out to be. You try to spin my argument to make it sound more simplistic than it is.

My REAL criticism is that Microsoft's line-up is lacking diversity. That's bad. New IPs is the obvious answer. The only alternative is rebooting old IPs. But how many does Microsoft have? There's Killer Instinct. What else... Blinx? Anyone want another Blinx? Anyone?

As I've said, a lack of diversity in their high profile first party line-up (not the Kinect stuff, not the XBLA stuff) is the only thing I've specified as a problem. New IPs is the solution. MS not pursuing that solution is what is bad. I NEVER said a lack of new IPs in itself is bad. You keep pretending I did though.

GET.
A.
CLUE.

Nukeitall wasn't specifically discussing the problem. He was discussing new IPs... the solution... and how it wouldn't work. That's why my comment to him was only about New IPs. It wasn't about WHY they need new IPs. He wasn't discussing it. I wasn't discussing it. It WAS NOT about WHY IT WAS NEEDED. It was about WHY IT WILL WORK. Two different topics. Two different topics you can't seem to separate in your head.

It wasn't until you showed up playing defense... rambling on about how new IPs aren't needed... how the solution I was talking about wasn't needed... that I had to specify the problem (a lack of diversity) to illustrate WHY the solution was needed.

But you being you, either failing to grasp my argument, or just arguing with logical reasoning that you don't like, you try to spin what I said to nukeitall to make it sound like I'm faulting Microsoft simply for not having new IPs just for the sake of having new IPs. You prefer to just ignore WHY I think MS needs new IPs... as a solution to their lacking line-up.

You can quote me all you want. Pretend you "pinned" me all you want. It doesn't change the fact that my argument makes perfect sense or in any way inconsistent. You just can't accept it, because you don't like it. Either that, or you're just not bright enough to separate elaborating from backtracking.

Bottom line: MS's first party content is lacking. If a cheesy Fable Kinect game, some XBLA stuff, and HALO HALO HALO works for you, good for you. For other people, it doesn't. New IPs is the obvious solution. And it's the solution that doesn't leave Microsoft and it's defense force hoping and praying for a big third-party game like Witcher 2 to come along to bolster a 2012 line-up that consisted of just a measly TWO first party games of any real significance.

That's my point. It's a valid point. Microsoft's first party publishing needs more than just Halo, Gears, and Forza in their top shelf line-up. As much as you don't want to hear criticism of Microsoft, it doesn't make it any less valid.

trouble_bubble4112d ago (Edited 4112d ago )

@jetlian
dude, the difference between KZ2 & KZ3 sales estimates on vgchartz are less than 400,000. Thats peanuts. Spinning KZ3 repeatedly here as some noteworthy 'worst selling' tragedy is ludicrous lunacy. Especially since the difference in North American sales is a mere 10,000 units. And KZ1 sold the least fyi. Gawd. With standards like that, where do games like Forza fit in with the last few titles selling millions less than its predecessors? Millions?

And fyi, XBox has bundles -all year-! Nothing seasonal about it. I don't even think its possible to buy a 360 without games bundled in 2013, and you'd be stupid if you did. Every week BestBuy, Future Shop, Walmart, Gamestop, Amazon have bundles. MS even release entirely new systems skins with sounds everytime a new Halo, COD, Gears drops. Kinect has been bundled since day one.

"...I simply pointed out that Sony as well as MS did not have a 'NEW High profile exclusive in 3 years...'

Ni No Kuni begs to differ. Journey did its thing last year too. More new IP coming this year including The Last of Us and the Puppeteer. Last Guardian's still in the works. Takes time to make em.

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Rebo004116d ago

Their exclusives are filled with variety!
They have an FPS, a third-person shooter and a driving game :-)

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iNathan4116d ago

You and no one knows sh** about Next Gen, we dont know if MS is going big on hardore or big on Casual...

Nobody knows, nobody will know until 720 actually launches...

360 last 2 years have been very very casual and Ps3 very very Hardcore but i remember back at the begin of this Gen that 360 was pretty much hardcore and had almost none casual sh**.

But next gen might change.

NathanM4116d ago

I never said I knew anything about next-gen.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest3d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN2d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan2d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor1d 23h ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic1d 23h ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv722d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts1d 22h ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares3d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv722d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka2d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion2d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer2d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow12d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer2d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar3d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast3d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning773d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning772d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning772d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast2d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning772d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast2d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv723d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes3d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv727d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning776d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga7d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv726d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19926d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21837d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan7d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit6d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv726d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier6d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan6d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1017d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-6d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac7d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead6d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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