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Arrogance Will Be The Downfall Of Nintendo

Nintendo has to make a change. Stopping short of channeling the prevalent "Nintendo is doomed" meme that has become so popular on the Internet for the last five years, the Japanese game giant that singlehandedly resurrected the industry in both the East and the West is on the verge of being left behind by Sony and Microsoft and has to adapt. The industry continues to expand, yet Nintendo is still playing catch-up. The company's arrogance and stubbornness has led it to this point, not unlike Sony's downfall in 2006.

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GraveLord3750d ago

What do they have to be arrogant about? The Wii died much quicker than PS3/360. 3DS is selling way behind what DS was in its time. They should have seen the Wii U's failure coming.

Yep3750d ago

And you wonder why you have one bubble. You're blatantly trolling by calling the 3DS and Wii failures.

If the 3DS is a failure, what do you think that makes the PS4?

Kingthrash3603750d ago (Edited 3750d ago )

your argument was valid until you brought the ps4 up...its a 2 month old machine. but it's true he is trolling and thats why he has one bub. if the wii is a fail then so is ps360...smh
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i've always felt nintendo's arrogance and playing it safe would bit them in the a$$.
when i bought a wii it collected dust after a month. it was used only when a new mario or zelda came out. looking at it as it collected dust i promised myself i wouldnt buy the next Nintendo system unless they've changed.
to this day i havent bought a wiiu. they stay on that old beaten path bringing the same old games, and while they are great games it was still the same worlds we've been playing since '87...run, jump, eat srooms. save princess ..repeat. while this is ok for some i would perfer they acually make something else. they are great developers, that have gaming minds and are great at their craft but they just dont bring nothing new to the table. 3rd parties ran away leaving only those 1st party games to wait on....and wait, and wait, and wait. i got my ps4 day1, why because sony brings it...best hardware, great innovative devs like nd and ss. upgraded controller, ps+, etc.
Nintendo arrogance was ok when its competition had not as talented devs...but now that's changed, Nintendo fan-base has changed. thos kids who got a wii for Christmas got a ps4/x1 for Christmas. the kids, they've grown. Nintendo hasn't, you can say their fan-base has out grown them. i know i have. look at them numbers...they don't lie

Yep3750d ago

@Kingthrash360

"your argument was valid until you brought the ps4 up"

Oh don't be sore. You know what point I was making. The point I was making was that the 3DS is not a failure. If it was, that would mean the PS4 and every other console that is selling lower than it is one too.

NatureOfLogic3750d ago (Edited 3750d ago )

Nintendo going third party is looking more and more likely everyday. I think going third party is their best way to recover or they should make a deal with Sony. Mario and Zelda on Playstation hardware would be very nice.

InTheLab3750d ago

He might be trolling but where does he say the 3DS is a failure? He said its not selling as well as it's predecessor. That's a fact.

Bringing up the PS4 is actually trolling harder than the OP.

d3nworth13750d ago

He didnt say the Wii failed he said it died. When you say a console is dead that means its not getting support anymore not that its a failure. So he's actually correct. The Wii stop getting support long ago while the ps3/360 are still coming out with games. He also never said the 3DS was a failure. He said it is sells are behind what the DS was. The XB1 is selling behind the Ps4 but it's far from being a failure. I think you took what he said out of context. Though I wouldn't say those are reason why they should have seen the Wii U's failure. The Wii U's failure was due to lack of games and proper advertising.

thorstein3750d ago

Alright, lets assume the DOOOM and GLOOOM article about Nintendo is correct. Nintendo then goes Sega and makes software, not hardware (except in the handheld arena where they dominate).

Nintendo would then bring their software to their former, would be partner, SONY. They, most likely wouldn't go Xbox.

AsimLeonheart3750d ago (Edited 3750d ago )

The PS4 is exceeding expectations and breaking records so it is a HIT. While the 3DS is missing sales targets like the Wii U. Being "top selling" isnt that big deal when your hardware costs only $129 or $200 and games cost only $40 instead of $400 or $500 for console and $60 for the games.

LonDonE3749d ago (Edited 3749d ago )

@Kingthrash360
While i agree with u, please for the love of god use proper paragraphing when writing a long reply! it makes it so much more easier to read.

Because without spaces in the message you wrote people can find it hard to read.
Please dont take offence to what i'am saying!
I am not being a grammar nazi, i am merely pointing out that reading your reply was annoying! I hardly ever use proper punctuation and grammar when writing replies online, since i cant be bothered.

As long as the reader gets the point of what i am trying to say then who cares right? But at the very least you have to space out the paragraphs properly, because when reading a persons eyes can jog, and then they lose where they are at in the message.
It just makes it so much easier if a message has paragraphs spaced out properly!

Anyway thanks for a good read, i agree with u!

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GamersHeaven3750d ago

Sorry I gave you a disagree.You are right the Wii sales died after hitting the 100 mil mark.Nintendos arrogance was they believed a new gimmicky controller would put them at the same level of success as it predecessor with out big marketing,casuals don't work that way.One of the many bad decisions was the name its one of the most confusing names in gaming history doesn't sound like a new console more like a addon.Nintendo ignoring the competition as they did with the N64 (Cartridges) Gamecube (Online/3rd party developers).There repeating the same mistakes as if they don't have to compete this is a three way race this isn't the 90's anymore online gaming is essential part of gaming,third party support as well.Nintendo needs new blood there nothing wrong with the old way but ignoring what is a big part of console gaming and what gamers want is.

kevnb3750d ago

Those " failed" consoles still made money. Nintendo has always made more money than Sony or Microsoft and they do their own thing. There is no point in them trying to do things any different than the Nintendo way.

Evilsnuggle3750d ago

PS3 and 360 didn't make money because of both of them took a lost on hardware. Wii was a fluke fad it sold less software than both PS3 and 360. Nintendo made money on cheap hardware and software. But 3 party publishers got killed on the wii THQ and Majesco 3 party took loss. So that is why Nintendo has no 3 party support . 3 party make money off of PS4 ,PS3 , 360 and xbone.

DC7773750d ago

The difference is 360 and ps3 still in the hands of almost 200 million people and they can still get ports for most new games. That will stifle all new system sales once the hype dies down. Things aren't the same this time around. These ports to last gen systems of the big releases are going to keep numbers low all around. Wait and see.

timeline793750d ago (Edited 3750d ago )

All i see is a ton of butt hurt fans ect including companys trying their best to spoil Nintendo's image when the WiiU is the best console right now Sony and microsoft are trying too hard to convinse consumers to leave wiiu alone its very childish....

But their is a few reasons in my eyes as to why gamers will find out eventually that wiiu is the best when you see games like Project CARS,Mariokart8,X,Bayonetta2,e ct ect specially in the Uk gamers love Mariokart and when these games are on WiiU it will outsell xbox1 and ps4 every month after that mark my words.

ErryK3750d ago

@timeline79 No, stop talking. You're not making sense.

3-4-53750d ago

3DS is on pace to be th 5th best selling console of all time.

Go look at some stats.

It's already in 12th place and rising.

Yea it won't sell DS numbers, but it will be up there.

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Yep3750d ago

How about we settle this once and for all.

Everything will be the downfall of Nintendo. Just like it was every generation since the 5th.

EcoSos33750d ago

Dont waste your time with the ignorance in this site, we still have 3 months before Nintendo post how much they made or lost. They just lower their sales expectation nothing else.

-Foxtrot3750d ago (Edited 3750d ago )

Why do people call this site and it's users when articles like this get made. N4G pushes articles from ALL OVER the internet on here

So if you get a lot of articles on a certain subject then I don't see how N4G users are to blame. They are just agree/stating what everyone else is saying.

Sony 2006

Microsoft with the Xbox One reveal

Nintendo...Wii U problems

Everyone gets a slice

EcoSos33750d ago

Because the people in this site believes that Nintendo may have a second year of losses they can star saying that they need to go 3rd party. What about Sony havent they been lossing money for like 5 years in a row now but they "oh its fine theyll be alright" this why Im saying that most users in this site are ignorant.

-Foxtrot3750d ago

@EcoSos3

But it's not really about money or who is loosing more the point is the Wii U as a CONSOLE, is selling very poorly which has made Nintendo cut it's sale forecast by 69%.

The PSV is doing poorly and we've had articles on that aswell but with that at least for Sony the PS3 AND their next gen console the PS4 are selling well. The only thing Nintendo has is the 3DS to keep it going.

Sure money is a part of it but it's not the main reason why these articles are popping up.

AsimLeonheart3750d ago

The forecasts are always optimistic and the actual figures turn out to be even lower. You do remember that just a week ago they were expecting 9 million Wii Us sold and the reality turned out to be much different.

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CouldHaveYelledUiiW3750d ago

So true-

And Now you know that you have seen through the illusion of the Matrix-

What if I told you...

Nintendo failed a longtime ago but because the Super Machines that secretly run Sony and MS could not sell consoles without a whipping-boy to compare themselves too-

- they enslaved humanity and then created an illusion in the minds of all humanity that Nintendo still exists.

Take the Blue pill and your breath will be minty fresh.

Take the Red and you will be as high as I am....
(joking)

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You are so right. They have been saying Nintendo would fail since N64 and people have been hoping it since SEGA came West. "Intelligent" Bubble for you.

Phil323750d ago

It has nothing to do with arrogance and everything to do with incompetence.

deafdani3750d ago

That claim surprises me a lot coming from you, Phil. Incompetence?

Is that why they had the most successful console of the past generation, and the most successful handheld, and the most successful handheld currently, which was the best selling gaming device of last year? Because of incompetence?

Yes, the Wii U is in pretty damn poor shape right now... but calling Nintendo incompetent for one blunder (that can still, and probably will be corrected) after a string of successes for several years is making them a disservice.

Th4Freak3750d ago

They're very strong in the handheld market but what about the home consoles? N64, GC and Wii U all failures. I don't think the entire company is incompetent but Iwata and the console division are indeed incompetent.

Phil323750d ago

I meant incompetent with how they handled the Wii U.

- Had six years to prepare for HD development yet were still blindsided

- Further ruined third-party relations

- Called the system the Wii U despite the 3DS/DS having brand confusion prior to that

- Did not read the market correctly at all

That's why I think they were incompetent and not at all arrogant. Sorry for not explaining further with my initial post. D:

Studio-YaMi3750d ago (Edited 3750d ago )

Nintendo's success with the Wii is because of gimmicks,they should have known that and try something else with the Wii U,the way they introduced the Wii U to the consumers was their falling,it almost felt like they were showing you a gaming peripheral to your old gen Wii instead of a new console,that's why it wasn't picked up by the same market that overflowed the Wii(casuals).

If the Wii U was handled more professionally by the PR & marketing teams at Nintendo,then things would have been a lot better for them.

With the Wii they were Competent,with the Wii U..their incompetence is really showing.

They didn't study the market well this time around and now it's biting them back,I really hope they get back on their feet and end up profiting from the Wii U since it's a great system on it's own.

@Phil32
I almost said the same thing as you haha,really good point on the 3DS/DS fiasco as well.

SoapShoes3750d ago

@th4Freak - N64 a failure? Maybe by comparison to the Playstation but by no means was it a failure. 40M+ sold is still good and a lot more for that era than it would be now.

Lukejrl3750d ago

I think it is incompetence led by arrogance. The incompetence in seeing the way their system network is not on par with ps or Xbox. To not unify accounts so that if my wii u dies I do not have to send it back to Nintendo to get my games on a new one. Then the arrogance for being called out on the problems and saying "we do our own thing".
There was an article written about a developer's experience on wii u. The guy said Nintendo was not familiar with how psn or Xbox live worked. Which is ridiculous. Who on earth doesn't look at the competition and see what they can do better or differently. That is incompetence.

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DC7773750d ago

An incompetent marketing team surely. The name (which they should drop) being the biggest mistake. It looks like Wii with some decoration after it. With Wii there was great marketing and even a little video display in stores with a woman telling you about the console. With Wii U there's just a demo to play with the game pad. Were there signs for "Nintendo X" or something if would have at least got people to take a peak and see what's new. There are plenty of people who will buy something just because it's new. But if you can't even discern the one box that says wii with a free Mario game from the other box that says wii with a free Mario game. Well who is going to think anything is different? Go back to Nintendo.

JackieCruise693750d ago

This article should be titled

"Hi guys! I'm bored, here' let me post another pointless doom article!"

Haters are bored apparently.

LOL_WUT3750d ago

Oh yeah? Well your not exactly helping by commenting and giving the article more heat ;)

InTheLab3750d ago

I don't think it's arrogance. Nintendo just doesn't know what they're doing. The company is poorly managed and their current troubles with the WiiU and early struggle pre-price drop 3ds is a symptom of their incompetence.

ape0073750d ago (Edited 3750d ago )

i agree with u, it has management problems, it's a shame since they have pure gold game development studios, imagine if MS or Sony has the gaming legacy that nintendo has, imagine the premier online services for classic games , AAA remakes, engine/gfx support for current projects, online support etc...

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7212h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

purple1011h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac23m ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad8m ago(Edited 7m ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein10h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno7h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k45h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson5h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu6h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson5h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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The INDIE Live Expo 2024 event is to feature over 100 game titles

INDIE Live Expo, Japan’s premiere online digital showcase series , will debut never-before-seen games & content updates across more than 100 titles on May 25th.