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PS4 Unveiling Shows What Is Wrong With Industry

Developers seemed to be impressed with the PS4 and what it can do for game design. However, they don't seem to be focusing on what matters.

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Nyxus4080d ago

It's far too early to draw conclusions like that. Really, all we have seen is a handful of the first games revealed for the console, we can't base any assumptions off that.

Actually, I would say jumping on conclusions like that based on just one showing, is what's wrong with gaming journalism rather than the gaming industry.

Larry L4079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

This author is OBVIOUSLY not paying attention. He's talking about how original and creative game are important, and that raw power has nothing to do with creativity. And he's right, but that's where what he's right about ends.

It doesn't take raw power to be a creative game designer, but what raw power often does is make it ever easier for creative visions to come to life. Think about Little Big Planet. I'm not really a LBP fan, but what that game showcases for me is that there is so much power in consoles now, that there are now "games" that allow just the average gamer to be a game creator and bring their own visions to life. You need proccessing power and memory to be able to do that. There will be even less limits to our own vision with PS4 because as powerfull as PS3 is, it's still limited by it's power.

The other thing that REALLY bothers me about what this author states, is his closing. "At first, I was interested in the reveal, then I saw it was just more of the same from Sony." That's paraphrasing. That is AFTER his whole rant about power somehow stifling creativity. Excuse me, Mr. "Journalist"......in case you aren't paying attention, or perhaps can't add 2 and 2......."more of the same from Sony", is EXACTLY what the gaming industry needs in terms of "creativity" and originality.

Sony NOURISHES the indy scene. I mean, give me a break. Are Unfinished Swan, Journey, Heavy Rain, Pixel Junk games......the list goes on and on for days......are they not creative enough for you?! Sony this whole PS3 generation has done everything possible to bring these amazingly creative experiences from small-time devs to the forefront with programs like the Pub Fund. And if the small devs don't want to be Sony published they can self publish on PSN.
"More of the same from Sony" is EXACTLY what this author is claiming he's all for, but he's just completely arse-backwards in his brain, and is somehow using it to bash Sony.

He wants more of the same from Sony fundamentally, but he's bashing Sony for bringing more of the same........wft, dude ?!?!

aliengmr4079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

Yes, I agree its too early. However, games, regardless of platform, have trended toward the safe genres. Higher cost of development means higher risk which leads to less risk taking.

I haven't heard anyone talking about development costs lowering next-gen, so its safe to say the industry is going to still be risk adverse with their more popular titles, perhaps even more so. What has been shown time and time again is jamming in more and more eye candy and reducing everything down to TPS and FPS genres.

This is NOT a Sony problem, its the entire industry. No matter what platform you support, its entirely plausible that just because you have the freedom to do more doesn't mean developers are going to take more creative risk than they have in the past.

An example would be keeping games like Dead Space focused on the fans of survival horror rather than broadening the fanbase to sell more copies. Where its budget is higher than an indie and lower than AAA. The freedom to do more by virtue of better hardware probably won't help in this case and may just exacerbate this the problem.

I know fans are eager to defend their platform with the announcement of the PS4. But its fair to ask whether more power will allow more creative risk than before. In some areas it might, but we have to wait and see.

I'll say it again, its not an issue with just Sony but the entire industry and its predilection for ever more shiny visuals instead of gameplay and new/risky IPs. Certainly Sony could change things but the industry hasn't shown that its willing.

I really hope there is a change and willingness to take risks on games, but it doesn't seem that way.

hennessey864080d ago

Why is it only the gaming industry that's required to make these impossible leaps in innovation and tech when phone company's release slightly changed phones every year, movie studios remake classics and never really innovate, the music industry is still dominated by the same old rubbish and yet the gaming industry is slated every chance they get. I can't think of another medium with as much innovation ad the gaming industry as a whole, its the easy one to pick at I suppose. It's pathetic.

AztecFalcon4080d ago

The mobile industry is constantly evolving almost every day. Look at where we're at since the release of the old brick Nokia phones and the original RAZR. We have quad core processors in our phones now. We have PCs in the form of tablets with the Surface.

If there's any industry pushing innovation more than any other it's mobile.

Stroke6664079d ago

the music and movie industry is a completely different medium than video games and mobile. mobile phones life cycle is a whole shorter than videogames and yes sometimes the next big phone/tablet isnt so much better/more innovative than the last iteration but in the life cycle of a videogame console mobile devices make true leaps and bounds in innovation. i agree with the article thedevelopers have their priorities mixed up. thats in part to all the graphics whores out there begging for the same games with better graphics. don't get me wrong the ps4 can be dope, i'm not hyped about it but they got my attention to see what they plan on doing, but if the industry doesn't shift toward great gameplay and not devs saying stupid things like they need more powerful machines to be innovative its gonna be a boring gen for all of us ms, sony, and nintendo fanboys alike.first paty titles i'm not so worried about especially with nintendo but third parties need to learn to work with what they go and show true innovation

DivineAssault 4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

what can they do to innovate anymore? Virtual reality?? I mean, the only thing technologically possible right now is network functionality & features.. Other than that, it would be gimmicky.. im sorry but motion controls was a waste of a generation so stick with the damn controller (that isnt a helipad) & make a truckload of great looking, running, sounding, playing, games

sonic9894079d ago

sony are awesome
http://www.ps4playstation4....
plus more just google ps4 vr and you will see that sony were hiding some features

sonic9894079d ago

http://www.kurzweilai.net/s...

new videos for what should sony been hiding

DivineAssault 4079d ago

I don't think their hiding it but I don't think their ready to do a massive showing til it's close to perfected

Jakens4079d ago

I completely agree with you. For myself, innovation is a tricky term in my book. My friends and I talk about what gameing could be or what add ons might be coming. The cost to benifit ratio simply isn't there for the cool stuff. Not even close. I'm pround to have digial 7.1 sound. However, I dare dream about dual HDMI outputs, and full sensery simulation. Our concoles are cool but not nearly as cool as the stuff that's (possible but) not practical and certinly not affordable.

MasterCratosKong664079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

I respectfully disagree. I think a huge problem with our industry is that we want to attach the word gimmick to everything that strays away from tradition. Doing that alone is a good way to limit creativity altogether. Just because you can't see the ways we can improve the industry and change gameplay for the better, doesn't mean there isn't someone out there who can. And thanks to that mentality by a lot of vocal gamers that person probably won't ever have a chance to show it because nobody embraces change. Motion controls are a great example because now people like to attach them to "casual" gamers. Now motion controls have a lot of work to go until they become a truly useful form of play, but it is a bit bold to call them a waste. I don't agree with everything the author says, but I don't understand how you can be a fan of any form of technology without being a bit open-minded. Otherwise all we can expect are games that will look and play better, but by decreasing increments each generation.

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CouldHaveYelledUiiW4079d ago

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Power does not = creativity.
BUT
Power Can hinder creativity depending on what creation you have in mind.

Complicated A.I. takes processing power- so let's say you want to give complicated A.I. to 1,000 characters on the screen.
You can't just do that with out power under the hood, esp. if you are using full-Specs Graphics.

My problem is every Gen. most Developers seem to only focus on graphics, even though they make promises of more innovations every Gen.

One reason I like Nintendo, is no matter the systems power their games or their Hardware is going to bring something new.

For me I think that Sony's most telling Developer that will make the power of the PS4 shine is Quantic Dreams. I think they are going to do something with Story telling and NPC character A.I. that will blow us away - or at least I hope.

No Fraud, Brah.

ChickenMan344079d ago

power 100% creates creativity are you that stupid ? if not for the change from cartridge games like nes to cd like psone than we would have never seen better graphics bigger worlds longer games with special features how you can say that power doesnt help creativity is beyond me , you my friend are a troll and a retard

CouldHaveYelledUiiW4079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

READ:

"Power does not = creativity.
BUT
Power Can hinder creativity depending on what creation you have in mind."

Then I said:

>>Complicated A.I. takes processing power- so let's say you want to give complicated A.I. to 1,000 characters on the screen.
You can't just do that with out power under the hood, esp. if you are using full-Specs Graphics.<<<

Next Time try reading before going Psycho with insults.

Jakens4079d ago

Better AI is coming. We all know it. Same with better physics.

glennco4078d ago

I haven't seen better AI for 20 years. it is a dream

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Fallout 4's 'next gen' update is over 14 gigs, breaks modded saves, & doesn't change much at all

We were expecting problems with mod support, but there are a lot of other issues.

isarai10h ago

Wow what the actual hell 🤣🤣🤣

just_looken9h ago

This is why you get the GOG version on gog you can select the version of the game to download.

On pc fallout 4 fallout new vegas and skyrim are all broken on steam because they all got the same "next gen" update.

Skyrim dec 2023
https://www.pcgamer.com/sky...

Can not find new vegas but anyone that modded it knows the script extender there was also broken

Valkyrye8h ago

Not accidental, they want modders to stop modding their older games to force them to mod Shitfield.

just_looken6h ago

There doing the same on starfield with a mods store and blocking mods

There goal is like blizzard and what they did with fallout 76 you make mods they can sell and you become a slave.

On skyrim they have "trusted" mod devs now basically a badge that lets your mod on the store you get a crumb of the sale when someone buys it.

Inverno4h ago

lol to the disagrees, the last Skyrim update broke mods too. They've been trying to kill mods to monetize them in creation club for years, it's not a stretch that they purposely put out patches just to break free mods.

porkChop3h ago

The disagrees are from people who have common sense. They aren't trying to kill mods. Most mods for any game will break with a new update because they rely on files/code that have been changed. This isn't new. Even with Bethesda this would happen way before the creation club. Mod support is literally one of the things that got Bethesda to where they are, and they're one of the only devs that releases comprehensive mod tools for each of their games.

Chocoburger4h ago

Over 14 GBs and doesn't change much at all? What? Taking up that much drive space for a pathetic 'remastering' is shameful.

Par for Bethesda.

Aussiesummer3h ago

It's not a remaster, it's a next gen update.

badz1492h ago

LOL people are actually expecting massive improvements or something? From Bethesda?? the same people who released Skyrim multiple times and the all look like shit? THAT Bethesda? are people for real?

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

The ps5 version doesn't change a ton but from my small playtime it's enough to make me want to replay it just to have it running at 60.

A side note to this my PS4 version no longer boots after it's "update" so I guess that's what it feels like to own a Bethesda game on PC

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein8h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno5h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k43h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson3h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu4h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson3h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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Gears of War Voice Actor Hints At New Game Announcement Coming In June

A voice actor from The Coalition's third-person shooter series, Gears of War, has hinted at a new game announcement coming in June.

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Ra30303h ago

Hopefully Microsoft will go back to the original story line and get away from that woke nonsense from the last Gears game Gears of Woke! But were talking about Microsoft so all the betting money is on more of the same woke nonsense.

Sciurus_vulgaris2h ago

The Locust trilogy concluded with Gears of War 3. I don’t get how Gears 4 and 5 are “woke” .