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Beating the Technical Curve

There was a time not long ago when the arrival of a new console generation would usher in a whole new era of possibilities for developers and gamers alike. It would open an entirely new world of opportunities for the developers to take due to the advancement in technical specs that each new console brought with it. Be it something as basic as an important evolution in processing from 8-bit to 16-bit consoles or the evolution in storage where compact-discs of PlayStation brought in the level of graphical sophistication few had ever imagined was possible.

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Neonridr4109d ago

I agree with a lot of what the author is saying, however I find a couple of points that I find to be glaring errors, but only in my opinion.

First, to say that Twilight Princess had poor controls is ridiculous. Sure Skyward Sword showed what the Wii controls were all about, but that still didn't change the fact that Twilight Princess gave us a glimpse of what motion controlled combat would be like if done correctly. The aiming of the arrows using the wiimote gave us a new sense of immersion to the game. Sure, it had its waggle-fest during combat, but they corrected that for Skyward Sword and offered a more 1:1 experience.

As for ZombiU, I feel that the developer did everything they could to show off the potential of the gamepad, not shoehorn in uses. I mean a lazy developer would have made the gamepad a map/inventory screen and that's it. Games like Darksiders or ME3 (minus the ability to play the game on the gamepad) didn't really revolutionize anything. At least Ubisoft gave us a cool augmented reality scanner, or a quick way to manage our inventory, pick locks, or use the map. Red Steel, while many agree was a technical flop, allowed the developer to go back to the drawing board and bring us Red Steel 2 which was so much more of what they originally intended to offer us.

Anyways, aside from that, I do fully agree that the curve is becoming flatter and flatter, and that it's going to come down to the games over the graphics. Only time will tell of course..

lightwarrior1794109d ago

I think the last-minute inclusion of motion controls in Twilight Princess are clearly apparent.
As for Red Steel, a superior sequel doesn't justify the inconsistent controls of the original IMO.

As for what you said about ZombiiU, I can agree with you to an extent. That said, games like Darksiders and ME3 aren't really apt comparisons because they weren't designed originally keeping the GamePad in mind while ZombiiU was.

Neonridr4109d ago

yeah, I can see where you are coming from in a lot of regards. Still Twilight Princess was an awesome game :P

MNGamer-N4109d ago

Graphic improvements will be less and less with each generation, hopefully giving developers time to instead make the games and game play better. Which is why we play video games in the first place, isn't it?

PygmelionHunter4109d ago

Sadly, you and I know the true answer to that... But I see your point, maybe gamers will finally stop caring so much about graphics, and developers will instead focus on gameplay, although overdemanding idiots will always be there...

SilentNegotiator4109d ago (Edited 4109d ago )

On what grounds will graphical improvements be less and less? Because the 2D to 3D step is gone? Because Nintendo chose to take a small leap with Wii U?

There's still massive room for RAM and graphical improvement. Consoles are still running at and below 720p. CPUs still have room to grow to improve on physics. More intelligent characters and objects will be on screen with more RAM and general power. If you think there's no where for consoles to go, it's your lack of imagination or else understanding of console limitations.

Zodiac4109d ago

Because the 2D to 3D step is gone?

Nailed it.

Compare any SNES game to Mario 64. Can you think of a single game on ps3/360 that made that kind of jump from the ps2/xbox/GC?

What i see is improvements all around. Better resolution, better AA, better lighting and shading etc...

It looks better, but that's all it is. It's just better of what were had for ps2/xbox/GC. There was nothing revolutionary like SNES-N64.

Just think back. SNES-N64, PS1-PS2, PS2-PS3. The leaps are getting smaller as we go along.

CouldHaveYelledUiiW4109d ago

People who gripe on motion controls should think about where they want Gaming to end.

Not trying to Nerd-Up the place with my Star Trek-

-But the Holo-decks in the newer Star Treks were based off the efforts of Gamers and Technicians who were trying to create realistic all-encompassing 3D worlds.

Sure we are far from being able to create solid-holograms, but not totally away from using holographic immersion > CNN has used 3D holograms and they are used in NYC airports.

So, the question is HOW Would YOU MOVE IN A 3D WORLD without holding a controller out in front of you?

Wii-Motes, Move, and Kinex are all just important experiments toward the goal.
I understand liking the old-ways but most of the time we are given both options for AAA titles.

So, let the industry grow-

1upgamer994109d ago

It has been commented in several articles, the graphics saturation point has ALMOST been reached. As stated in this article pretty much. When it comes to PS4/720 we are just not going to see the leap in graphics like we did from PS2/PS3, Xbox/360 with the exception of Wii/Wii U of coarse because Wii had way less power than PS3/360. Look at The Last Of US. It looks AMAZING, it is using more than 99% of PS3's power though. So you take that game and think about the power of PS4/720/Wii U They will be have the ability to do even more realistic visuals, but at what point do graphics lose their ability to wow us, in other words this next gen including Wii U, developers will no longer have the excuse to have crappy graphics, and GAMEPLAY is going to have to be innovative and will have to be made fresh. The Gamepad for me anyway has done that. It has made playing games fresh. Not in the way the motion controls of the Wii did, but fresh none the less. Examples...BOPS2, Multiplayer online, Madden 13, calls on the gamepad etc, Zombi U, using your gamepad as your bag of tricks, scanning areas etc, Rayman, Well heck you can do sooo much on the gamepad, and Ubisoft has made the best use of the gamepad yet, Batman, Well your gamepad is your Batcomputer, What I am getting at Is Nintendo has given us new ways to play, also choices on how to play. BOPS2 use the Pro-controllers and your gamepad for your maps if you want. I for one am glad that now I have the choice of 3 completely different ways to play Gamepad, Pro-Controller, Wii Remotes. Now my hopes for Sony ( I could care less about Microsoft) We have Move, and from what I hear they are going to improve it, I hope Sony will do something different as well. Give us a new way to play, from what I hear Dual Shock may go away, although I hope PS4 will support it. I am interested to see what Sony has up its sleeve. Maybe Sony knows its time for a little change as well.

SilentNegotiator4109d ago

"the graphics saturation point has ALMOST been reached"

Balderdash! Consoles still need MAJOR increases in RAM, CPU power for physics, and Graphical power for better textures and character models. There will always be something better with computing.

tdogchristy904109d ago

Good article and it brungs up something I've wondering about. Now granted that technology like science will always evolve, there is always something to do. For me personally I have no desire in "extra" stuff. I like the simplicity of my console and controller, plug and play. With that said the article mentions a ceiling. And for me personally with my want is simplicity I do wonder how much higher they can go without changing it so much that I bail out.

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Wii U games that still haven't been ported to Switch

The Nintendo Switch is potentially nearing its lifespan, and several Wii U games haven't found their way over as ports yet.

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Vits5d ago

I think it's better to leave games like AC: Amiibo Festival and Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash forgotten on the Wii U. Best case, they are mediocre games; worse case, they are very bad. It was a dark time for the Wii U, and the first only exists to sell Amiibo cards, whereas the second was put together in a couple of months with a shoestring budget, and it shows.

The rest of the list does have some really cool games, though. I would love to see a remake of Star Fox Zero with decent controls, and Xenoblade X doesn't require that much modification to work.

Z5015d ago

How would XCX work without dual screens functionality?

Cacabunga5d ago

Same as Paper Mario color splash. One of the best wiiu games and getting even better with dual screen. Same reason why i prefer Splatoon 1

Profchaos5d ago

This article leaves out Nintendo's most controversial game to date devils Third.
I personally found the cover system really fun in that one compared to at the time most fps games completely lacking one.

Stevonidas5d ago

Devil's Third is HIGHLY underrated.

repsahj5d ago

They should remake Starfox to the switch 2. Very beautiful game during gamecube days.

Chocoburger5d ago

Kirby is always ignored or forgotten by people, so good to see it mentioned here.
Play Kirby Canvas Curse on DS, and then play Rainbow Curse on Wii U, they're really fun and unique 'platformers' without any actual jumping.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy859d ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted9d ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere9d ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook79d ago (Edited 9d ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy859d ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga9d ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher9d ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble8d ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike9d ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv729d ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

crazyCoconuts8d ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire9d ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer19929d ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga9d ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk9d ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 7219d ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty9d ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds9d ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx129d ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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