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Next-Gen Consoles Will 'Be Better Than The Wii U' - Pachter

NowGamer: Industry analyst Michael Pachter is predicting trouble for Nintendo's Wii U when Sony and Microsoft release their own next-gen consoles.

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EddieNX 4120d ago

In terms of what Power ? Wiiu will be better in terms of innovation and exclusives. You can't beat Zelda , Smash bros , 3D mario , Metroid , Donkey kong , Starfox , etc.

That's just my opinion though which means nothing to a lot of you just Like Pachters means nothing to a lot of us.

user39158004120d ago

Innovation? Please, my pad dies in 2 hours, thats not innovation its simply poor planning, and yes both consoles will be more powerfull, heck they are now with the cpu been faster, its a fact, graphics look better but cpu strugles as stated by almost all developers. The only reason why I bought it now was cause it was a gift, otherwise I would have waited. Dont matter what system big N creates, I always buy their system for first party games, otherwise it would be a dead system, great software with poor hardware is nintendo style, it always been, with the exception of Super Nintendo. All their hardware has been the inferior its a fact.

1upgamer994120d ago

N64 was inferior to PS1? Gamecube was inferior to PS2? Really, thanks for the info.

decrypt4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

Lol Pachter

Console gamers.. Dont care about graphics.

Power is irrelevant, Wii U will be fine. Look at how the Wii turned out, highest selling console last gen yet was the weakest.

deadfrag4120d ago

DO you have a WII U?!So you brought it or was a gift?Because your comment dont make sense;im guessing you dont own a WII U and you are simple trolling!

TheFirstClassic4120d ago

"All their hardware has been inferior its a fact"

Check your facts man. That's just plain wrong.

riverstars864120d ago

Decrypt, console gamers don't care about graphics? I'm sure that may be true for Nintendo fanboys like yourself, but for the majority of console gamers, graphics are important. The Wii was so popular because it was the first console to implement motion controls. The Wii U doesn't have the same wow factor that the Wii had, the controller is a gimmick that will not catch on.

Also, the online infrastructure on the Wii U is worse than current generation consoles. In my opinion, Nintendo dropped the ball with the Wii U, third party support is going to be awful and it's sales will be affected by that at the end of the year. I look for Microsoft to claim the majority of casual gamers this generation.

herbs4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

Nintendo has always been King of doing more with less and the snes is actually a perfect example of this. It was by know means state of the art at the time but was a perfect balance of components that made it competitive even against rival 32 bit systems. Maybe history will repeat maybe not?

Apex134119d ago

Dude that is BS my pad last for at least 3-4 hours straight play.

Why would anyone want to play more then that or up to that is sad. Get a life people

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deafdani4120d ago

Sony has a lot of strong exclusive IPs as well, so your argument ("you can't beat Mario, Zelda, etc) is purely subjective. At least you aknowledged it was your opinion.

Regarding the "innovation" part... we don't actually know what Sony's and Microsoft's next consoles will bring to the table, besides more power. So you can't make any statement regarding innovation until all the machines are out.

corrus4120d ago

Nothing can beat Heavy Rain Beyond Two Souls Uncharted and The Last Of Us

Novistador4120d ago

How can someone beast something that is not even out yet? Seriously stop saying the Last of Us is the greatest game in existence when it is still in production, will it be a good game? I hope so, but anything can happen.

Genuine-User4120d ago

My assumption is that In terms of power, next gen from Sony and Microsoft will destroy current gen including the Wii U.

As far as innovation goes, PC and PS3 are on top of my list.
In my opinion PS3 has the best exclusives. Heavy rain, beyond, sly cooper, puppeteer, Uncharted series, god of war 3, heavenly sword, infamous 1&2, journey, flower, killzone 2&3, the last of us, little big planet series, metal gear solid 4, Ni no Kuni, papo & yo, ratchet and clank series, resistance series, siren, the unfinished swan, etc.

I really like Nintendo, I just think they need to up their game and innovate more often. Hardware innovation is all good but what about the games. The last new IP from Nintendo was Pikmin on GameCube. That's kind of pathetic to be honest.

pikey4120d ago

Hmmm. xeno blade, last story, mad world. i think there were a few more.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

"Wiiu will be better in terms of innovation and exclusives. You can't beat Zelda , Smash bros , 3D mario , Metroid , Donkey kong , Starfox , etc. "

WOW!! THAT'S INNOVATIVE!! I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY OF THOSE GAMES IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!!

Anyway can't wait for ps4 & 720!!

360ICE4120d ago

Can't we just reserve judgement? Is it really your opinion that no matter what the other manufacturers dish up you can't beat that line-up? I'd say that line-up has been beaten three generation is a row now, but I'm willing to be convinced that they can win this generation. To be honest, I'd like to see three major new franchises from Nintendo this generation. Three major ones, that they can keep for generations.

There were hardly one on Wii.

SugarSoSweet4119d ago

What innovation? a Ipad wannabe?

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Dailynch4120d ago

"Zelda , Smash bros , 3D mario , Metroid , Donkey kong , Starfox , etc."

Yeah, all those games that fail to change with each iteration.

You've already played them. I'm waiting for new consoles with real power and can implement actual change - not just a redundant second screen.

Zechs344120d ago

Anyone who thinks the second screen on the Wii U is redundant obviously doesn't own one.

People complain because we need new consoles, that we need a Wii HD, that we need realistic graphics for Nintendo games finally. We get all that and now it's something else,

:Sigh: Bunch of crybabies. No wonder society is a state of decline.

riverstars864120d ago

I own a Wii U and find the second screen to be more of a distraction. I just don't see the major innovation with it yet, I'm looking for Nintendo to wow me this E3 with it's first party games, which will be the only games worth purchasing once the new Xbox and Playstation come out.

pikey4120d ago

river, your inablity to focus when presented with two screen is your problem. Doesnt mean its not a good idea.

chadboban4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

Wait, so you're telling me that Super Metroid is the same as Metroid Prime, or that Wind Waker is the same as A Link to the Past or Ocarina of Time or even Majora's Mask. That Mario Galaxy is the same as Mario Sunshine. That Starfox 64 and Starfox Adventures are exactly alike. All of those games are quite different from each other be it aesthetically or gameplay wise.

I mean, I could say the same thing about the Halo series but even that wouldn't be true seeing that each interation does see refinements in the gameplay department.

"Actual change" as you put it is up to the developers, not the hardware. We still have absolutely no idea what Sony and Microsoft have in store with their new consoles, we don't even know Nintendo's plans for the Wii U for the rest of the year.

We are in a market that becoming increasingly harder to read, I mean people said it was curtains for the 3DS when the Vita was revealed and look what happened there. I think we should all wait and see what each company has in store. I'm rather excited to see what all 3 of them are coming with this year.

Joegrine204120d ago

dude idk why u bother with them. they are a bunch of backsides. Anything nintendo gets bashed left, right and centre. A good article from nintendo doesnt get any views. That's this site and the "gamers" on this site doesn't really care. Give it rest man stop trying. As for me, i'm getting a wii U as soon as E3 comes and nintendo announce their 1st party titles along with that RETRO STUDIOS game. That's all i'm waiting to see.

Novistador4120d ago

Bold claim from the person with a halo icon Dailynch. Each Zelda, Smash bros, and Mario sit in development for years and when released make consoles fly off the shelves. Hell look what Mario and Rayman did for side scrolling games, like it or not Nintendo has had a major impact on the gaming industry and much of it is attributed to many of the games you say "fail to change"

herbs4120d ago

Why are this idiots flip floppy opinions even considered relevant and why must gaming sites continue to promote his B.S. Please stop...

ElectricKaibutsu4120d ago

All analysts flip flop, except the psychic ones, but they don't exist so we're stuck with Pachter.

Nevers0ft4120d ago

Who decided that gaming world has to pay attention to this d**khead and why wasn't I asked to vote? The guy cannot even keep a consistent opinion so why would anybody pay attention to it? Why is this post formed entirely of questions?

LOL_WUT4120d ago

I think we can all agree with Patcher on this one. And For those that don't agree they're either scared or don't want to admit it. ;)

3rdDimension4120d ago

Patcher and everyone else also agreed the 3ds would get destroyed by the Vita.

donman14120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

@ 3rdDimension..A very valid point.

Every generation and every nintendo product release is met with these so called experted making the statement this is the end. At what point will they collectively take their heads out their own ass and just be quiet. Hmmm lets look at the facts shall we... Wii U currently is selling at a much higher rate than the Xbox360 and PS3 when they release respectfully at the same early stage of their life cycle. Dont believe me then go and research it.

So how exactly is the Wii U failing when it is selling more then the Xbox360/PS3 during their own respective launch window? I for one work with and have an educated discussion on facts and not fanboys stupid comments or so called gaming experts personal agenda against a profitable company.

At the end of the day I will compliment my Wii U with a PS4 when it release because Nintendo and Sony have the best 1st and 2nd party titles of the three gaming console companies. Whatever 3rd party AAA title the Wii U doesn't get... I know the PS4 will. That combo will be the best gaming option moving forward. The reality is we now live in a two console gaming culture. Getting a PS4 and the Xbox720 doesn't make much sense if you are looking for a diverse gaming experience.

Novistador4120d ago

What do you mean the Vita isn't selling as well as the 3ds!?! Just look at the charts.. oh wait... Well look at all the amazing games in development for the vita... Crap looks like Sony is botching another handheld system. You think they would have learned something from the psp.

Nevers0ft4120d ago

Better graphics != Better

Few will doubt that the MS and Sony consoles will push a few more polygons but I'll take a few Nintendo design choices over more realistic facial hair any day of the week.

SilentNegotiator4119d ago (Edited 4119d ago )

But more power = better potential

How do you know what design choices will be made in the 8th generation?

Nevers0ft4119d ago (Edited 4119d ago )

@SilentNegotiator - I don't and I never said I did. My point is, Nintendo has some of the best designers in the business and first and foremost their games tend to be incredibly playable. I've seen plenty of games with whizz-bang graphics that played like ass. In many respects graphics get can in the way of excellent design (and introduce bugs), as evidenced by the popularity of games like Fez, VVVVVV or even Angry Birds.

exfatal4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

i bet you dont even own a wii u, by that comment. Patcher can make some good points, kinda like those times when there's a blue moon out. But he's super bias and anyone who doesnt see that is either a cod fan boy or a ninty hater.

or both lol

PopRocks3594120d ago

@LOL_WUT

I think it's really sad you think everyone can agree with Pachter of all people.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 1h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle12h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning774h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga11h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218310h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan5h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus234h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv724h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10114h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos13h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-3h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac13h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10112h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic10h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead3h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 10h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken21h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 6h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 6h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 6h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 2h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 5h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 5h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 21h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 19h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 16h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 9h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 11h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 7h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 19h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 5h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 4h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger1h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 20h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 20h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 17h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 19h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 19h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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