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Five ways Kinect 2 must improve on the original

The almost universal critical panning of Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor was a nail in the coffin for new Kinect experiences. Microsoft's magic eyeball of potential has more or less been boiled down to a Dance Central peripheral. Yes, there are a few gems like Child of Eden and The Gunstringer, but Harmonix seems to be the only developer (including Microsoft) who has crafted a truly lasting classic using the Kinect. If there is any hope for controller-free gaming beyond dancing games, it's going to take a lot of improvements. Here are five ways the Kinect 2 will have to improve on the original.

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Holeran4318d ago

Work correctly for a start.

ziggurcat4318d ago

has it even been announced yet or is this just another stupid article theorizing about something that doesn't exist?

Shadonic4318d ago

it works just not for everyone i mean even with steel battalion and other titles theres still people supporting the game and even showing it working for them so it must be something wrong between those it works for and those it dosent. In a video showing steel battalion working really well he has a pretty good setup and goes over his play space and lighting and from what ive seen of kotakus little kinect demonstration space they dont have much space in there. There are games that work and we cant forget about the PC field and the gaming stuff thats been created on the front which overall has been showing what kinect can really do sadly 90% of the haters of kinect are mostly trolls and dont notice these things.

GribbleGrunger4318d ago

That's five words, not five reasons

Holeran4318d ago

But if it would work correctly that would probably make up for all the other problems.

GribbleGrunger4318d ago (Edited 4318d ago )

A concept that is wrong -- by its very nature -- will never work correctly

greenpowerz4318d ago

It doesn't work for you because kinect isn't designed to work with your PS3 ;)

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Software_Lover4318d ago

Worked great with Mass Effect 3 for me.
Works great with Kung Fu High Impact for me.
Works great with Kinect Adventures for me.
Gunslinger is great (but my arms hurt like hell afterward)
Fruit Ninja Kinect, even multiplayer, works great for me.
Hole in the Wall works great for me.
Dashboard navigation (voice and hand) works great.

I could list more but the point has been made. Its all in perspective. I completely understand that the kinect is not gonna replace my controller anytime in the foreseeable future, but it does offer pretty good gaming experiences.

Its funny how people claim its a failure because EVERY GAME THAT COMES OUT FOR IT IS NOT A HIT. Well in that case, every console is a failure also.

greenpowerz4318d ago (Edited 4318d ago )

Works great in most cases. The tech is ahead of its time. It will get better. Doesn't work so good for PS3 fanboys. Dance Central and Kinect sports are colt classics already. My family loves these games and are among our favorites of any game on any console. I love using kinect for non gaming as well. Most kinect hate comes from PS MOVE failure and kinect's console pushing ability.

Machioto4318d ago (Edited 4318d ago )

@green what are talking about?the tech is not ahead of its time,Sony and Nintendo both were offered the tech but nin turned it down and Sony put on hold until it got better,move is not a failure as games that support it are coming out(unfinished swan,new counter strike,resident evil chronicles,portal 2 patched,odd world strangers wrath patched)ifyou want more on move new,implementation check out iwaggle3d on youtube or his website with the same name.

greenpowerz4318d ago (Edited 4318d ago )

What the heck are you talking about? What does Sony and Nintendo passing up similar tech that was primitive at the time, have to do with Kinect's success and hate of today? Nintendo being forced to release a new console and Sony in 3rd place and you talk about what they passed up? They don't need people reminding them of their costly mistake lol(not that hardware and their software was anywhere near as advanced as it needed to be to compare)

Nin and Sony passed up years ago when hardware couldn't have made it work to begin with, coming from non software companies that don't know the first thing about complex software lol.

cstyle4318d ago (Edited 4318d ago )

We all know the real reason why some here don't like kinect. Its simply because its not for PS3. Sony could never have developed the software for that thing. Its way over their heads. they have a decent R&D but Microsoft's R&D division is 10 times larger and devote more resources to technology like this. Just look at the steady improvements/ updates they release for it.

This is why sony went with a cheaper option in the move. One of Kinects strong points is that you can use it along with xbox live to do voice navigation and hand gestures. Can you imagine using that thing with how hideous PSN overlays look? Its just not built for it. The next version should improve on everything. There won't be hardware limitations holding it back. Overall I think they hit the jack pot with kinect and its a major success. Don't be surprised if sony tries to copy it next gen. That is if they aren't too broke to make any investments in this technology.

dkp234318d ago

Just got a kinect for 69.99 refurbished from Frys this weekend.

Surprised how responsive it was as the videos i remember seeing pre-launch looked unresponsive.

Voice recognition to go through apps and searching for contect worked fine. Responsiveness both in daytime and nighttime were pretty much spot on.

No issues here and this was refurbished.

The kinect adventures that came with it however did not read properly, had to install three times to get it to work. Each time the % would go higher and finally installed.

Shadonic4318d ago

well as a kinect owner dude you have to be weary of what reviews you listen too my best advice is to wait like 3 weeks or so before buying a game if there's no demo out and wait until someone posts a video of the thing working because the reviewers these days seem as bias and unbelieving in kinect as 99% of these trolls so just wait until you actually see the game in action and make sure you take notice of there play space and there gestures because a lot of people get really lazy or just plain cant fallow the directions on the screen of how it was intended to be performed you have no idea how many kinect game walkthroughs ive seen with people raising there left arm cursing at the device when the games asking for there right.

dkp234318d ago

my space is very limited too. Performed great

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus2318h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos8h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb337h ago

i think you are really missing the point

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SonyStyled1d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies11h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear216h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 3h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 2h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

Jon615867h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k42h ago(Edited 2h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k42h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 2h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead16h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage9h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 2h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 1h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel17h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19796h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage9h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead2d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie1d 17h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 8h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin1d 14h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 8h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow18h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 8h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow18h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney13h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii1d 13h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d 12h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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