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Wii Game Sales Weak?

There's no denying that Nintendo sits atop videogame system sales with the Wii, however an article in today's New York Times notes it's the Wii game (software) sales that are lacking. The article notes a sharp drop in Super Smash Bros. Brawl sales, with retailers such as Toys R Us bundling the game with the Wii system and a GameStop store reporting sales dropping from "a couple thousand" in the first week to "maybe 100" in the weeks following. No doubt, hardcore fans swooped it up in the first week, as March 2008 NPD numbers show. But are Wii owners supporting the system's library enough?

PS360WII5863d ago

meh. Wii sales are much better than GC sales so far so not to weak.

Bleucrunch5863d ago

I barely play the wii since I got brawl. Actually I bought my wii on the day that brawl released and I still dont play it much at all. During a 7 day week I might play it once if I am lucky enough to remember to do so. The wii has not games that appeal to me, I will not buy mario kart wii because at this point I can see that Nintendo is just remaking this games which is really annoying if you think about it.

PS360WII5863d ago

I've been playing the Wii more than the others for the past month or so. There hasn't been anything out but on the Wii for me at least. I've been playing Opoona, Baroque, and Okami just resently along with Brawl still playing Dragon Quest Swords and Fire Emblem. PS3 I play GT5P but only in small bursts and 360 I'll pop in Lost Odyssey every once in a while. Yet for a good while it's been back and forth between Wii and DS. Lots of games for the DS I'm playing too :)

ChickeyCantor5863d ago

one disagreed with you....LOGIC FAILURE * head explodes*

Xiru5863d ago

This is normal. It has been stated many times by many different sources, the most recent being the Epic president that the Wii is selling because of curiosity. Once a person buys it, they usually find that it gets boring after a little while. I know that I haven't touched my Wii since Brawl came out. Most gamers will go to the 360/PS3 to get their gaming fix. Its the casual market who is buying the Wii, and they really aren't big game buyers.

Xiru5863d ago

Yep I study charts all the time. Casual and 1st party titles rule the charts. Typical of Nintendo sytems.

nirwanda5863d ago

sorry xiru it wasn't meant as it may have sounded, I think the problem devs have with the wii they don't understand that the hardcore gamers do own wii's but also have a 360/PS3 it's like the DS they need to have better unique idea's then it will sell by the bucket load.

Why would a port of a next gen game sell

BrotherNick5863d ago (Edited 5863d ago )

From Nirwanda: "hardcore gamers do own wii's but also have a 360/PS3 it's like the DS they need to have better unique idea's" Don't you think Nintendo has created Wii Sports and Wii Fit? Those are quite unique ideas. It's the other developers who are having trouble making sales for the wii...their "backwards looking design teams" is the real problem...I think the wii was made to change perceptions of what a game is, or can be.

From Xiru: "Casual and 1st party titles rule the charts." Shouldn't games be for everyone? I don't think the industry should ostracize other groups of people to gaming. If they didn't make the market bigger there would be less reason for gaming overall, because if you seen the trends of how many were gaming from the snes up, you would see that less people were playing games, therefore less revenue, therefore less games. I put money that many casual gamers will start craving more hardcore type games...not many, but a good enough amount. You have to realize that most people aren't as obsessed as we are.

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BeaArthur5863d ago

I could have told you this. The Wii doesn't have very many good games and they don't really appeal to the hardcore gamer. As a result there target market consists of people who do not buy lots of games (recreational users) and little kids (who rely on their parents to buy the games). I like Metriod, Zelda, Mario Kart and Mario Galaxy, they are all great games but that equals 4 games in the year and a half the system has been out.

KingJFS5863d ago (Edited 5863d ago )

Super Smash Bros Brawl sold 2.7 million copies in March. No PS3 game has ever sold that many in America and only three Xbox 360 games have (Halo 3, Call of Duty 4 and Gears of War).

To say that Wii sales are "weak" after a game becomes the fourth best-selling game of this generation is moronic.

BeaArthur5863d ago

Game sales is plural meaning not just one game. Super Smash Brothers may have trounced other game sales but go look at the statistics of Wii game sales as a whole.

Voiceofreason5863d ago (Edited 5863d ago )

I have and they are just fine over all. Even the shovel ware is managing some decent sales. Wii is constantly in the top spot when it comes to the amoun of software sold. Whats really sad is 5 minutes at looking at NPD data is all it took to see this guy was full of it. ALso to the person above. They specifically mentioned SSBB. Sales for that game are fine compared to many other games that arent being called failures. Someone even tried to say SMG was a failure and it has arounf 4-5 million sold now.

KingJFS5863d ago

OK fine.

In 29 months, 36 titles have sold more than a million copies worldwide on the Xbox 360. (monthly average = 1.2)

In 17 months, 25 titles have sold more than a million copies worldwide on the Wii. (monthly average = 1.5)

In 17 months, 12 titles have sold more than a million copies worldwide on the PS3. (monthly average = 0.7)

While none of the consoles are doing bad, the numbers clearly show the *PS3* software sales underperforming, not the Wii.

BeaArthur5863d ago

Voiceofreason...decent sales aren't going to cut it. By comparison the 360 and the PS3 sell more games overall. I own all 3 and by far more games for the PS3 and 360.

BeaArthur5863d ago

KingJFS...maybe but the author is not strictly talking about games that sell over a million. You seem reasonably intelligent so you probably know as I do that numbers can be manipulated to say whatever you want them to say. I'm not calling the Wii a bad console I'm just saying as a whole their game library lacks in appeal.

KingJFS5863d ago

"I'm not calling the Wii a bad console I'm just saying as a whole their game library lacks in appeal."

And I'm saying that sales numbers do not bore out that opinion. You're right, numbers can be manipulated, and that has happened often in this console war. But that is not what's happening here.

Look at the VGChartz listings for US sales between the Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360.

For the Wii...
Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 is at number 50 with 196K
Four more pages of Wii games follow.

For the PS3...
Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 is at number 50 with 174K
Two more pages of PS3 games follow.

For the Xbox 360...
The Simpsons Game is at number 50 with 454K
Four more pages of Xbox 360 games follow.

I don't say this to bash the PS3, but worldwide and American sales clearly label it as "weak" saleswise, not the Wii.

BeaArthur5863d ago

KingJFS...Again he is referring to overall sales for the console not isolated games. We'll jsut have to disagree on this one. I'm talking about the crappy games no one buys, not the Zelda's and Mario's.

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Voiceofreason5863d ago (Edited 5863d ago )

Lot of incorrect stuff in that article, or just outright spin. Just pulled up VGchatz and noticed that SSBB was number 1...yeah being the number 1 selling game is really something to be worried about.Also the last official thing I read had GH3 on Wii outselling all other versions of the game and thats will a recall. I guess he missed the part where they lost 6 weeks of sales for shipping with mono sound.Hell just looking at th NPD for game sales shows he is completely wrong "Over the first three months of the year, only three other Wii titles broke the list of top 10 best-selling games compiled by the NPD Group, a market research firm: Super Mario Galaxy, Guitar Hero III and Wii Play," I think he needs to actually read the NPD data. Jan has 5 Wii games in the top 10. Feb has 4 and MArch as 5 again.. When you consider the 360,PS3,DS, and PSP are all trying to have games there getting 5 of them isnt a bad thing at all.

PS360WII5863d ago

not to meantion last NPD results shows 1 Wii game selling more then all PS3 software for the month... just sayin

Xiru5863d ago

Think about the install base though, Wii has almost 24 million consoles in homes. 360 is 18 million and still gives the Wii a run for its money in software. The best selling Wii games are also casual games, aside from the 1st party games. Taken in context, the 360 sells a broader range of games than the Wii, and the Wii has a bigger install base.

Voiceofreason5863d ago (Edited 5863d ago )

Let me give it to you another way...... Number of 360's in US 11,498,994:Number of Wii's in the US 10,350,259:
Yearly software sales for 360=16,431,522: Yearly sales for Wii software
16,052,740. Even with a million console lead the 360 is only outselling the Wii in software by 430k. You can pull a certain number off just to make the 360 look better like pulling the top 20 only and making it look bad but do the whole top 50 and Wii comes out on top every time. Also notice from your own list that GH3 for Wii is higher on that list than GH3 for 360.. Of 22 games on Wii that all sold over 1 million 9 of them are 3rd party. So again dude you are wrong.You seriously need to look into this stuff more before you speak. If 9 3rd party games have all sold over 1 million on WIi then it isnt just the first party stuff thats selling.

Xiru5863d ago (Edited 5863d ago )

K, just to prove to you that 360 is selling more per week, here is the list of last weeks top 20 games. The 360 has 7 games in the top 20, Wii has 6. Of the 6 Wii games, 5 are 1st party. Care to tell me that 360 isn't selling more 3rd party games again?

Top 20 for this week:
1)Smash - Wii
2)Wii Sports - Wii
3)Cod4 - 360
4)Wii Play - Wii
5)Vegas 2 - 360
6)Crisis Core - PSP
7)Army of Two - 360
8)More Brain Training - DS
9)Galaxy - Wii
10)GH3 - Wii
11)New Super Mario - DS
12)Rock Band - 360
13)Dark Sector - 360
14)Cod4 - PS3
15)Mario Party - DS
16)Pokemon - DS
17)GH3 - 360
18)GoW - PSP
19)MLB 2k8 - 360
20)Links Crossbow training - Wii

Also, total software sales were:

360: 837,860
Wii: 766,150

Oh and on the topic of 1 million more 360's in the US than Wii, how do we know that 1 million people aren't waiting for their 360 to come back from having RRoD? :) 30% of 10 mil = 3 million.

PS360WII5863d ago

so Xiru are you saying 1st party doesn't count? Close numbers considering that the 360 has more units in US.

Xiru5863d ago

I'm just saying, that MS is selling more software all around. Nintendo is only selling 1st party. Which is typical of ANY Nintendo system. And I believe it will stay this way.

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Former Dragon Age lead writer David Gaider pours scorn on EA's AI dreams.

"They want you to believe the devs under them are super stoked to work generative AI into their processes," continued Gaider, "but I assure you what they took as excitement was really a veiled wail of despair not unlike the time that team was informed of their new 'really cool' live service mandate.".

LordoftheCritics10h ago

Publishers see gaming as another stock market.

isarai9h ago

I think anyone with some common sense knew this, im glad i don't support their games anymore, what a sh!t company.

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Phil Spencer and the Battle for Xbox’s Soul

Has the rapid growth of Xbox made the ship too heavy? Following the closures of Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, and Roundhouse, we explore what the future of Xbox could look like.

LG_Fox_Brazil15h ago

This ship was never meant to sail, this ship was made from the get go to sink as fast as possible. It almost feels that they want to lower the standards of quality in the industry so that they can fit in

Hedstrom3m ago

Phil wants Xbox to be as soulless as him!

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Sarah Bond dodges questions on Xbox studio closures

While on stage with Dina Bass at The Bloomberg Technology Summit the President of Xbox, Sarah Bond, was asked about the Xbox studio closures of Arkane Austin, Tango Gameworks, Alpha Dog, and Roundhouse Studios

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ApocalypseShadow1d 5h ago

Of course she did. She's part of the problem and will just tow the company line.

VenomUK1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Bloomberg’s Dina Bass could barely read her scripted question without looking at her notes, whilst Sarah Bond who WAS expecting the question spoke without saying anything of substance or answering the question in any meaningful way. Clearly she’s had the same expert PR training as Phil, but this avoidance was disrespectful. In time the short-sighted decision to shut down Tango Gameworks will be seen as of the most notorious examples why Phil Spencer messed up his tenure in charge of Xbox. That’s a fully built out talented team that could’ve been put to work on any project.

Additionally, Phil Spencer should not be using Sarah Bond as a patsy for his mistakes- he should be answering that question.

gleepot1d 1h ago

I think you are all really overselling Tangos value. Hi-Fi rush was a lot of fun. Ghostwire was incredibly dull. Evil within 1 and 2 were just okay.

lucasnooker1d ago

Evil within 2 was incredibly under rated. I thought that game was surprisingly good

NotoriousWhiz21h ago

Someone else said it best. I don't think it was a Phil decision. It was most likely a Satya decision. I think Microsoft is done giving out free money to Xbox.

Cacabunga19h ago

people please boycott Activision Bethesda next release and support Hellblade.
these people mus understand that they cannot treat their fans and employees that way.
scumbags.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 4h ago

Yikes you don't help Sarah 😬 making a problem worse

Christopher1d 3h ago

She's playing her role. There's absolutely nothing any of them can say other than the truth, this is about profit margins and not quality, so they just don't answer anything and wait for gamers to forget.

shinoff218316h ago

I think news is coming of more ps5 release but they gotta be careful cause Xbox is still sitting on store shelves. They can't get left holding all that stock

Lightning7715h ago

Come next month they'll flash nice looking games in our faces and expecting us to forget.

The only thing that'll be going through my mind at their showcase is how many of those studios will get shut down after release.

I'm not joking around either. MS probably expects every game to be like COD and do COD numbers. What a way to destroy gaming for the entire industry because they're dumb af at being realistic in what success means for each game.

-Foxtrot14h ago

Always feels she was brought in / promoted for this. Happened just before things started to be out in motion.

Phil and co have someone to throw under the bus and share the blame with

zaanan18h ago

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Hofstaderman1d 4h ago

Like a deer caught in the headlights.....

notachance1d 3h ago

I always wondered why xbox had multiple leaders with similar titles like Phil Spencer, Matt Booty, and Sarah Bond, like, how many heads do you actually need?

Seems to me it would be more cost efficient to cut 2 of them instead of all those studios.

DarXyde1d 2h ago

Frankly, I suspect she is the most competent of them. I don't mean that I like her more, I mean that she's the best at articulating herself and giving the talking points MS wants to give. The others are starting to sound more like her than her sounding like any of them.

Are any of these people "responsible" for what's happening? No. This reeks of Nadella. But that being said, I don't see any of the Xbox heads stepping down in protest.

"Don't shoot the messenger", sure, but at the same time, the messengers don't seem to take umbrage with the message. Not enough to remove themselves from it, anyway.

CS714h ago

I disagree. Nadella is looking for profit as a CEO should in my opinion.

The problem is Dr. Phil & Co. had 10 years to bring Xbox back on track and have been failing woefully.

Phil needs to sell to Nadella that if we are to make a profit, we need to make great games. And to do that we need employees here for the long haul and the freedom to work on creative projects.

But as Phil said himself he doesn’t believe great games sell consoles.

RpgSama19h ago

Dude, 100%, forgot Major Nelson and Aaron Greenberg, like what is the point for all these suits? They have more C-level executives than games released in a generation.

This is just so they can all pass along the hot potato one at a time and in between all of them can say a lot without actually saying anything, misinformation at its finest.

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