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Unreal Engine 4 games could be ported to Wii U - Epic

Epic Games doesn't intend "to bring Unreal Engine 4 to Wii U," the firm's vice-president Mark Rein has stated, but the engine could run on Nintendo's upcoming console "if a customer decides they want to port an Unreal Engine 4 game" to the hardware.

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VanillaBear4737d ago

If you made a game for the PC, Nextbox and PS4 which was praised for the use of the UE4 engine and it's graphics why would people then want a dumbed down port for the Wii U when they could get a PC, PS4, Nextbox and play the game to it's full potential.

I'd very confident the Nextbox and PS4 will support the UE4 because theres no way after how much the UE3 is used this gen by developers Epic would miss out next gen all together.

PopRocks3594737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

So first it was that you insisted Wii U didn't support the engine at all and now the issue is "dumbed down ports."

You thrive off of bottom feeding, don't you. You can't even be bothered to admit that you were wrong about whether or not Wii U could even run the engine.

WeskerChildReborned4737d ago

Right now, no one even knows if it can or if it will run the engine. It's like what is being said about the Wii U how some devs praise it and how others say otherwise.

Sono4214737d ago

@VanillaBear
Wait whats wrong with UE3 in the first place?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Also Epic themselves said:

"Rein added that the firm's GDC 2011 Samaritan demo, which showed a cyberpunk peacekeeper battling thugs in a gritty city street, "was a demo to show what we think the consoles should... what we would like the next gen consoles to be able to do."

So.... they expect next gen consoles to do what the UE3 does.. what makes you bring up UE4 in the first place? Especially on unannounced consoles? Seems like epic is expecting all next gen consoles to run UE3 that includes your "Nextbox and PS4". Also just read this:

"Epic Games' vice-president Mark Rein has confirmed that the company has been in talks with Sony and Microsoft to help "shape" the next-generation of consoles"

hm.. and they expect them to use UE3.. maybe they know what they're talking about?

mike1up4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

Do you read the articles, skim through them, or just make things up?

--- Epic Games' senior PR manager Dana Cowley added that, "beyond the PC, we haven't confirmed any other platforms for Unreal Engine 4."

PS4 and Nextbox aren't confirmed to run UE4 either! UE4 wasn't made "supremely scalable" just because of Nintendo. Smart phones, and you're precious PS4/Nextbox will probably be using the same downscaled versions.

Machioto4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

@mr mike this does not confirm any thing about the ps4 or nextbox because if epic is not making a game for those systems I doubt they would know the specs.

@wesker the rumored gpu of the wiiu is a custom radeon e6760 whick is a under clocked radeon 6670.

@sider I assuming with all devs but one of guys developing resistance ps vista was given a reference sample of the vita before it came out to make the game if the retail vita is either weaker or stronger than the sample then they can't optimize for it.

@mike as tech advances you get better performance and efficiency for what ever purchase prior the hardware being released.

ChickeyCantor4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

"if epic is not making a game for those systems I doubt they would know the specs. "

Completely irrelevant.

It's hardware, they take the specs and optimize their engine to it. It's scalable for a reason. You don't need to make a game for it in order to build a SDK for it. They have every right to buy a Nintendo license. And it's only good business sense for both of them.

mike1up4737d ago

@Machioto

True, and fair enough, I have no idea what the specs are. I do, however, think that a downscaled UE4 is the most logical course of action... unless you want to spend $800 -$1,000 on a console?

Machioto4737d ago

@ sidar I mean they can't properly optimize for it because they don't know the exact specs.

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Jadedz4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

Both the Xbox 360 and PS3, got "dumb downed ports", compared to its PC brethren.

You're being extremely bias.

Axonometri4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

It's funny though isn't it. I'm sitting behind a core 2 duo 8800gtx 2 GB PC terms "dinosaur," and I still prefer to play titles on it because it simply does things way beyond what all 3 consoles in the other room can do...visually and more.

It is no wonder that Epic is calling for massive leap in hardware from platform manufactures.

joab7774737d ago

Absolutely. To be honest, I am more worried everyday that consoles will b frightened to go to big because of the pricepoint. It has to have the capability to use luminous and UE4...mandatory.No one ever writes about the fact that there is a way to release a console for a good price but guarantee that it is able to keep up and even push technology. Make it upgradeable. Microsoft's memo mentions scalable but I am not sure if it means hardware. Wouldn't Microsoft love to new able to sell memory or graphics cards. It would new finite but it could compare to low, medium and high settings on a pc. Or sell different models. People buy Xbox or ps for different reasons hence the size of the harddrive. It seems simple and it won't make the generation love forever but will make it much better and more lucrative.

metroid324737d ago

Now he didnt say dubbed down ports he said the wiiu can handle it in other words i'll tell you something a Ubisoft employee has already ported the UE4 to the WiiU ?? your a bit behind on the news arnt you.

JBSleek4737d ago

Why would someone port a game to another console to try to increase their sales. I know what is everyone thinking right. How dare they send a popular game to more gamers. /s

taquito4736d ago

@vanillabear

epic does it on the port from pc to 360/ps3 all the time, gears of war 1 on pc looks a full generation beyond gears 3, they had to "dumb down" the ue3 engine like crazy to get it to run on consoles.

batman ac on pc, dude, it looks amazing, on consoles it looks good, but it was certainly "dumbed down"

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Axonometri4737d ago

Epic's UDK is scalable. They have built in tools to scale back for other devices right within their engine. I think they are just choosing not to add those tools for the Wii U and leaving that possibility to a client who wishes to do so.

Epic are smart and Wii U, like it or not, is Gap-Gen in terms of hardware. Nintendo, by self proclamation, are not interested in pushing hardware boundaries but prefer to push unique game play ideas. Epic on the other hand has always been pushing the tech to the edge. That is what they are and do.

metroid324737d ago

Look its a true next gen console

Compute shader 11
Shader model 5.0
OpenGl 4.1
32MB Edram
HD3D
Eyefinity
2 gig of ram

this is next gen compared to ps3/360 and if you wait 5 years obviously you can get a more powerful console as you just skipped an entire generation the next WiiU will be out a few years later HOW STUPID.

And there is a CE3 game being made now as we speak for WiiU cryteks words and its looking very special ? Goolgle it.

Axonometri4737d ago

Show me the official statement from Nintendo with those specs in the document

bobshi4736d ago

I'm surprised this has a lot of disagrees compared to agrees.

This is one of the few true comments on here.

As you say the UDK is fully scalable - it supports mobile devices for example.

There is no reason why the Wii U could not therefore be able to run UE4 in terms of the technical limitations it provides, but weather or not Epic provide the in-built tools to do it is another matter.

metroid324735d ago

Well UE4 is now confirmed to run on WiiU Mark reins words and they havnt got anything for yhe wiiu from epic but other partners can use UE4 on wiiu if they want sothere UE4 can run on wiiu maybe just in 720p/60fps so thats cleared up then ?

I would much prefer a True HD console this year that supports CE3 to the MAX and can handle UE4 to a good level than wait 3 years just so i can play the same wiiu games at 1080p ?? who cares,Microsoft/Sony are almost skipping a generation for more power means they have neen beaten by Nintendo from the OFF no one speaks about that way of looking at it do they ????

Skateboard4737d ago

I don't mean to be negative, but i hate the Unreal Engine. It looks so bulky and fake. Of course Wii U is next gen it's coming out 2012 am i right ? don't listen to the trolls Nintendo fans.

Shok4737d ago

^A wielder of common sense?

corrus4737d ago

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mike1up4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

Wow... awesome spec rumors! Do you read them in the bathroom? I guess you win the argument because those rumors are so awesome!

While you're at it, what are the WiiU spec rumors? Let me guess, bad right?

... lame troll. That has nothing to do with this article at all!

yabhero4736d ago

If there is any mainstream consumer electronics that have a 16 core processor in them i will sell 3 of my favorties game sof all time...

CouldHaveYelledUiiW4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

This article explains some of the cold-nature that Crytech and EPIC share toward NINTENDO.

It's just Business, you know, "Love your money/ hate your politics."

I am sure, Square/Enix will support Wii U with their new Engine too.

But like I said... LoZ:SS Gameplay, would EASILY make me not care about any of them.

This Article too:
http://n4g.com/news/1035794...

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While Layoffs Hit the Industry, Nintendo Retains 98% of Staff Including 78 With Disabilities

TNS: Based on its most recent ESG data, Nintendo boasts a remarkably low staff turnover rate of just 1.9%, with virtually no reported layoffs.

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Jin_Sakai2d ago

Because Nintendo makes great games.

Yesyes1d 18h ago

It’s unreal that people are downvoting this when they consistently have the best scoring games on metacritic.

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rlow12d ago

Well it doesn’t surprise me. As much money as they make and how they value their employees. It’s a great company in that regard.

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drivxr2d ago

Well, when your games remain full price many years after release.

And you make profit off of outdated hardware.

I would be shocked if they couldn't afford to retain their staff.

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't want to say anything but drivxr is right.

Nintendo always sells at a profit because they purposely use tech that's always 5 or more years behind. And it's also true their games hardly ever get price decreases.

Don't get me wrong, it's great they kept most of their workforce, but making a point to have your tech specs behind everyone else affords that luxury.

Darkegg2d ago

I don’t think it’s their purpose to use old tech. It’s their purpose to make value of software and know their value. Nobody makes games like them that’s for sure. I just don’t appreciate their customer unfriendly policy.

It’s not impossible to take their status. Companies need to have a selection of 8-bit and 16-bit. Now imagine a split screen for 8 player game for SNES Mario kart and selling at $9.99. The problem is that it doesn’t make profit. So many companies won’t invest in “old” technology. Everyone guns for triple AAA modern technology software but honestly we can enjoy modernized 16-bit creative ideas that allows 8-player mayhem. It’s a pipe dream, possible but impossible.

Shane Kim2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

If they ended up kicking people out after all of that stated above, it would be truly shameful.

DivineHand1252d ago

Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Tesla and Meta are all trillion dollar companies yet they are laying people off in large numbers.

I believe the reason Nintendo layoffs off less workers may be a result of their culture. It seems Japanese companies believe in giving their workers long term or life long employment opportunities and will exhaust all options before laying off workers. This is something we don't see much of in the west unfortunately.

Rdeal1d 20h ago

might be something to do with the fact all those companies hire more than 20x the employees than Nintendo

LoveSpuds2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What the hell are you talking about? It has nothing to do with how profitable they are. Its completely cultural, MS and Sony make stacks of cash and still lay folks off. Nintendo chose not to lay off staff for the same reason their execs took pay cuts to increase staff pay instead; because they value their staff and view them as colleagues, and respect them as such.

If Sony weren't so US centric I fancy they'd fare better too, they should get shot of US and European leadership and go back to when Japanese execs were running the show if you ask me!

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai23d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7223d ago (Edited 23d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX22d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK22d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog22d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor22d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje23d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra23d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje22d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac23d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex22d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje22d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter21d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake23d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos23d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8623d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos23d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8622d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr22d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8622d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2323d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos23d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker23d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg22d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake23d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr22d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B23d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Nintendo Has Confirmed It Will Be Attending GamesCom 2025

Company skipped last year's event.

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Obscure_Observer42d ago

Not surprising at all.

I mean, they´ll be releasing a new console in a few weeks.

repsahj41d ago

I hope they show new Switch 2 exclusive games.