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Hatred is an offensive premise disguised as 'fun'

GameZone's Matt Liebl: "When it comes to video games, I’m all for freedom of expression. But a new game from “experienced” indie developer Destructive Creations has me questioning my own belief."

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Findingcrybabies3492d ago

yeah its too early for this kind of talk...haven't even had a drink yet.

CloudRap3492d ago

Gaming........ gaming never changes

Spinal3492d ago

Gameplay wise the game looks good but it needs more objectives than just kill kill kill. It will get old FAST.

thegood333492d ago (Edited 3492d ago )

Just wait until VR is perfected...going to be a thousand times more scary than this.

3-4-53492d ago

"Mario is racists against turtles...."

just waiting for the article.......it seems the direction ALL journalism is going.

Tabloids....nothing more than that.

ThunderPulse3492d ago

After that article "Mario is racist against mushrooms...."

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Doge3492d ago

Did they seriously rip off the Doom logo?

Riggans423492d ago

I don't even know what words to use to describe this game.

morganfell3492d ago

"When it comes to video games, I’m all for freedom of expression."

Apparently not.

ThunderPulse3492d ago

The writer is a dumb @$$ hypocrite.

Highlife3492d ago (Edited 3492d ago )

Doubt you even bothered to read it. If your younger than 12 I will give you a pass if not then you have problems. So go back and read the article and then give a valid remark.

And I completely agree with the author.

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mixelon3492d ago

Umm, actually there's no contradiction there. He doesn't have to like something and can question its existence. He's not calling for censorship.

Freedom of expression also = freedom to criticise.

Imo this could be an interesting game if there's more to it than using shock value to sell copies. Which is pretty lame.

morganfell3492d ago (Edited 3492d ago )

Uhm, the writer is discussing ARTISITC FREEDOM. We are discussing ARTISITC FREEDOM. Freedom of expression does not equal artisitc freedom unless you are attempting to state a critique is art. It isn't.

The second you state, "Thats's going too far..." you no longer believe in artisitic freedom. You can like it or not like it, but when you begin setting limits for the behavior and character of the art of others then you have lost that idea of freedom.

Bimkoblerutso3492d ago

No, you can believe in the right for the game to exist but still personally feel that it crosses a moral line.

For instance, I think this game should be allowed to be made and released to the general public, but I also hope it fails miserably because I have always had ZERO respect for shock art.

morganfell3491d ago (Edited 3491d ago )

The right for the game to exist isn't what people are saying. You are not comprehending my remarks. As I have stated in two threads about this game, you can like it or dislike it, but stating that the the game should not exist, attempting to quash artistic freedom is inherently wrong. Young people never learned the expression, "I disagree with what you are saying but I will defend to the death your right to say it." It is hypocritical on the parts of these people that always attack the press for similar stances to suddenly take one themselves.

Highlife3492d ago

@Morgan
If there was a game that was a real killing simulator told you how to kill how to rape how to go to school and shoot everyone and enjoy it would you still be all for freedom of speech. Because according to you this game should see the light of day.

morganfell3492d ago (Edited 3492d ago )

For the last time...since you refuse to read, we are talking about ARTISTIC FREEDOM.

ARTISTIC.....SPEECH.

CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

NO?

HERE: http://www.rif.org/

As regards speech, I do believe in freedom of speech. And that info you are talking about? It is all over the internet already so you are, as you have readily demonstrated, too late.

Run along now and live in your close-minded little censorship world where a minority tells the majority what to think, say, believe, and do.

aliengmr3491d ago

@morganfell

Art is speech, so no there isn't a difference. I mean legally what you are saying is wrong, like all wrong.

TekoIie3492d ago (Edited 3492d ago )

While I did find the trailer uncomfortable there is one thing that we should all agree on and that the author should acknowledge:

Art is a form of speech. Which means if you're not in favor of that simple statement, you are anti free speech, and against the very same laws which allow people to maintain a job as a critic.

As a website you can choose not to promote the game, but you cannot dictate it's right to exist.

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003492d ago

I don't see how it's different then call of duty were you massacre armies of enemies.

Mulletino3492d ago

The difference is cod represents war being fought by two groups of people called armies who chose to do battle over an idea they feel is worth dying for. I kind of see what you are saying as far as civillians dying as a result of war but cod does not portray that. Hatred is a person murdering innocent people.

003492d ago

two things

1: it's fictional
and 2: your're are still massacring people

I don't see this any different than going on a killing spree in gta other then the edge factor.

Elwenil3492d ago

Someone seems to have forgotten the "No Russian" mission in CoD.

donwel3492d ago

So Hatred is like Grand Theft Auto in that respect then.

Highlife3492d ago

Then you are to immature to tell the difference.

003492d ago (Edited 3492d ago )

Then tell me o wise one what's the difference between kill faceless fictional enemies in call of duty to kill faceless fictional civilians from this game.

I play multi-player games where i do nothing but kill people to win the game and I'm sure most gamers have too, so whats the difference between doing that and playing this game.

unless you only play games like Mario and others like it that only get rated T and lower, it seems quite hypercritical to throw a fuss and act a holier then thou to those who know it's fictional.

Highlife3492d ago (Edited 3492d ago )

Please I don't pretend to be wise or holier then the next person. Don't believe in God but that is beside the point. This game has no class no value at all. Basically it's about cold blooded murder. You brought up multiplayer fine that is basically a game you get a point if I kill you and you respawn it's about getting points to win. In hatred it's not about that it's about killing someone for no reason yes it's fictional but completely different. The mindset in this game is murder.

Frankly I'm all for freedom of speech but be prepared for the consequences. Just because you say what you want doesn't mean people can't say what they want back. And I for one think this game is disgusting.

003492d ago

so in others words your just saying "stop making things i don't like"

"You brought up multiplayer fine that is basically a game you get a point if I kill you and you respawn it's about getting points to win"

I find this point comical how do you know Hatred doesn't give you points to win from killing? clearly if you put an objective on why you are mass murdering fictional people it completely nullifies the fact that your mass murdering fictional people, seems quite hypocritical to be content with mass killing in MP games to win, yet to denounce that this game is only about murder when you are doing the exact same thing in pretty much every other game I find it to be funny.

Mulletino3492d ago (Edited 3492d ago )

You have to be trolling. How can you not see a difference between someone defending their country or clan or state or whatever and someone just going out to kill innocent people for no reason. No one said that we didn't want this person not to make the game I am just trying to respond to your comment that the mentality is different than cod (which I'm not even a big fan of).

jambola3489d ago

The difference is in call of duty it's kill or be killed
if you can't see the difference you must be blind,
a child could point out the difference to you

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Controversial "Adults Only" Murder Simulator Hatred Is Coming To Nintendo Switch

A game about killing people.

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NecrumOddBoy1486d ago (Edited 1486d ago )

This game was just gratuitous violence. I don't know why it was rated AO. It's no worse than a GTA killing spree, Hotline Miami, or even the 'No Russian' COD mission. Reminded my of a weaker Dead Nation except no zombies.

FlyingFoxy1486d ago

And we have highly sexualised Japanese games like Senran Kagura which are often either borderline, or practically straight up soft core.. and not even rated AO, some even rated lower age than GTA!

Makes you wonder what's wrong with the ratings systems overall tbh, potentially exposing kids to all kinds of nasty stuff.. but then that's more the parents fault anyways, and the upper age ratings are definitely nowhere near kid friendly, yet you still get little kids playing certain things they shouldn't be.

StormSnooper1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

Sex should not even be an issue. Violence, on the other hand, should have restricted access. I don’t know anything about this particular game, but sounds like the difference between this and GTA is that GTA is a game about mafia, so violence itself isn’t the lure of the game. It’s telling a story. But a game about murder, is a game centered on murder as the selling point. I Don’t know, I see a difference here.

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StormSnooper1484d ago (Edited 1484d ago )

@genericgamer01
We are confusing a number of issues here:

1) I think we all agree that any outright censorship is bad.
2) violence does in fact have negative impact on young kids.
3) as a matter of public welfare, some things are not better left to the unchecked discretion of people, in this case parents. This is why we all obey traffic laws.
4) while the right to raise your children how you see fit is a fundamental right, not all parents know how/are able to raise their children in a proper way, and the rights of the child and society should also be considered. Unfortunately, while we get a manual with everything, and attend classes for things like driving, a child does not come with a manual and no classes are offered to parents about how to raise a child.
5) there is a strong interest in protecting those in our society who do not have a means of protecting themselves. This includes children who cannot protect themselves from bad parenting.
6) we do in fact have experts in every field, both inside and outside government, who have dedicated their lives to specific fields, and DO know more in that subject than the general public. (To argue otherwise is called anti-intellectualism, which is a major problem in our society today, i.e. flat earthers)

Therefore, we should have regulations that guide parents, and also prohibit them from allowing their young to engage in activities that are either damaging, or have the propensity to derail their development into functioning positive members of society.

Lastly, the issue of politicians using video games as a means to seem tough, is an altogether separate problem as these individuals should not be allowed to take the reigns from experts on matters of public policy without scientific support.

PurpHerbison1485d ago

I guess the biggest difference here is the goal of Hatred is to murder where as GTA isn't all about killing sprees, Hotline Miami is too cute to be taken seriously, and COD isn't all about wiping out Russians. Best comparison is probably Dead by Daylight where 50% of the game is being a serial killer trying to kill survivors in gruesome ways and it is only rated M.

Kostche1485d ago

shooting and killing people is shooting and killing... dont matter what form it is

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CptDville1484d ago

Have you ever tried Manhunt? It was quite disturbing when launched.

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Tetsujin1486d ago

I'm surprised Switch is getting this and PlayStation/Xbox isn't. The game was basically Postal with better graphics and more realism.

LOGICWINS1485d ago

I'm not. Sonys the one that's been caught censoring anime bikini girls. Nintendo has been vocal about being against censorship.

https://www.google.com/amp/...

https://www.exclusivelygame...

REALAS1485d ago

Haha. Only with the switch, because money. Nintendo has censored more games than anyone.

Segata1485d ago

Nintendo will censor their games but not 3rd parties. That's what tey said since few will click any links.

MadLad1485d ago

@reals

So only with either company's most recent consoles? The ones most relevant here in 2020?

REALAS1484d ago

@ Ted
I just find it funny that people make it seem like Nintendo has always championed non censorship. They have only relaxed their stance to deliver to their shareholders. Good for them, I guess.

MadLad1484d ago

@reals

What I think you're noticing is people going at Sony, because they have been the censorship kings of this generation.

I've never seen people voicing Nintendo's anti-censorship stance, because they've obviously been bad with that in the past. But we're talking about now, and Sony is the one always seen censoring content nowadays.

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Activemessiah1486d ago

Brace yourselves for the incoming bitching about this by journalists.

NecrumOddBoy1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

Or more likely: "Best on Switch - 10/10"

QuePasa871485d ago

Hmm I wonder if some retail outlets will refuse to sell it

Kabaneri1485d ago

Every open world sandbox game is Hatred for me.

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5 Titles That Critics Hated but Gamers Loved

A look at five games that gamers loved but most critics hated.

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iofhua2332d ago

Advent Rising is another good example. It got panned by critics but it has a good story and I enjoyed playing it. The graphics are dated, the enemies all look the same, but it was made in 2005 so what do you expect? I wish they made the sequel so I could finish the story but I think the critics killed it off.

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Aaroncls72331d ago

I don't trust critics.
I'd value more the feedback from a random user.

nommers2331d ago

I seldom trust gamers or critics anymore. A lot of times high scores just mean how likely you are to enjoy something from the game, but rarely anything about how much you would enjoy said things, or whether the highly preferred type of qualities in a game you’re looking for are even in it. My initial gut feeling of the premise of a game is usually all I need.

quent2331d ago

Silent Hill: downpour another example

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Shock Value Alone Won't Sell Sh*tty Games

Joanna Mueller writes: "Since the 1980's, video game advocates have been arguing for the protection of games as a medium of free speech. Frankly, I consider myself in that camp, but just because a game can push against the boundaries of common decency doesn't mean it should. Especially if the developer is just hoping to ride the wave of pearl clutching controversy to the bank."

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garyanderson2801d ago

Nothing wrong with pushing for controversy, but the game still has to be worthwhile. Lots of games in the 90s showed that.

ShaunCameron2801d ago

Because the novelty will eventually wear off and the audience will eventually wise up.

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Cy2801d ago

So what? If there's a market for something then why should anyone care if it gets filled, as long as it's not something illegal? You can dislike so-called "edge lord" games all you want (in fact, you can like or dislike whatever you want, full stop) but even if games like Hatred are just trying to take advantage of anti-SJW backlash to make a quick buck, the fact that they exist at all is important in a culture that's becoming increasingly puritan and censorship orientated. Art is supposed to push the envelope. It's supposed to make you think. And even if all a game makes you do is think about why certain people are so desperate to ban it.

Enigma_20992800d ago

Yeah, it makes me think WTF is this s***?

Skankinruby2801d ago

Sure seems to be working for gta

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