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Why Waiting for the NX Will Benefit Next Zelda Game

With Zelda Wii U being pushed back until 2016, why not wait a little longer and have a strong, fan-favorite game to launch with the Nintendo NX?

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LegendZelda3193d ago

If they do this then I worry it will be a half-ported game like Twilight Princess was on the wii. It never fully took control of the wii's controller and felt unnatural to use.

bcornett143193d ago

To then the other end of the spectrum with so much in Skyward Sword relying on the motion control. One could hope they learn to find the balance.

higgins783193d ago

WTF!? Skyward Sword 'relying' on Motion Plus is EXACTLY what made it great, a true classic and revolution of the series. I don't know how or why anybody would want to go back to a 'traditional' control scheme in Zelda after playing Skyward Sword for even 10 minutes.

Erik73573193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

The demo they showed running on the wii-u a Year ago ran horrible,AA was terrible, FPS was terrible,draw distance was terrible,and full of pop in......

I'm assuming the NX version wont have that, I would be more worried about the Wii-U version if you ask me. It looks like Zelda's ambitions outpace its hardware

Germany73193d ago

It was just a beta footage...

uncharted563193d ago

Its a nintendo game are you srsly complaining about graphics? They do unique art style and great gamepla y not mind blowing graphics. Not saying that should be the practice as they could probably make it look real good but people play games from nintendo because they know weather the game has a story or not or if it doesn't have great graphics it will still have fun game play.

herbs3193d ago

What a daft comment game in development seems unfinished wow. GTA 5 is still the most advanced open world game and it works on last gen 500mbs Wii U has 4X that open world games are fine on Wii U look at Xenoblades.

Concertoine3193d ago

Thats what a game looks like years before release.

I know were all used to a fake demo that looks worse than the retail game, but at least Nintendo showed an honest work in progress (that still looked pretty good)

ChickeyCantor3193d ago

" The demo they showed running on the wii-u a Year ago ran horrible,AA was terrible, FPS was terrible,draw distance was terrible,and full of pop in....."

What video did you watch?

jcnba283193d ago

The footage looked amazing and it was in pre-alpha stage at the time. Don't be silly.

Sly-Lupin3193d ago

...If it were pre-alpha, there wouldn't have been any footage to show off.

Learn what words mean before you use them!

fatneal3192d ago

you could tell how bad the zelda beta was by an off screen video?...smh sometimes you internet clowns should just shut up

BrandanT3192d ago

I guess this s what Reggie meant by some users will be unhappy if they show footage to early.

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LonDonE3193d ago

Agreed this whole situation has me depressed!
I love my wii u and would love to see them support it better.

Instead of just giving up on it, why dont they remove the dam game pad from the bundle and put a pro controller into every pack and sell the console for like £149? make it dirt cheap in other words.

Why dont they redisign it and make a new version of it with a proper hard drive and ethernet port etc a reworked o.s without game pad requiremtn and bundle a pro controller with every sku?

I just hate how they have this defeatist attitude!
Since Sony entered gaming its like they gave up on the core gamers and feel like they cant compete which is wrong!

And since they delayed Zelda wii u why didn't they at the very least give us a HD remake/port of skyward sword on wiiu? they could even make it so you can swipe the game pad screen in the direction you want link to swipe with the sword?

I would so buy allot of the game cube games and wii games remade in 1080p 60fps on wiiu or even 720p 60fps as long as they include full pro controller and game pad control's!

That would of given wii u gamers more to play over this year while we wait.
I would love a mario galaxies hd port/remake or a metroid prime trilogy in hd. :(

Hell i would be happy with just 1080p/720p hd ports of wii and game cube games with some anti aliasing thrown in to smooth out the image and bam we have more games to play on our wii u which most owners of the console love.

I know the wii u can play wii games, but i am talking about hd versions of said game with anti aliasing to smoth out jaggies like what project dolphin does on pc.
And with traditional gamepad/pro controller support would be EPIC!!

The wii versions of said games look bad on a hd tv, so i know most of my family friends would gladly buy hd remakes/ports of wii games and game cube games.
I would LOVE a hd twilight princess to hold me over till the new zelda.

They could even just release them in the eshop to cut costs, I WOULD TAKE ANYTHING at this point instead of letting the wii u die!

WizzroSupreme3193d ago

It'll sure benefit it if we get a 1080p Zelda like the NX is rumored to be capable of.

herbs3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

If it does come out for Wii U and NX then obviously the NX will be backwards compatible with the Gamepad which I hope is the case. If they go with brand new architecture for the NX then they would likely have to emulate previous software which would mean it would have to be 5-10X more powerful than Wii U. I have a feeling it will still be PPC though and will just run the older software and will be on par with PS4 overall maybe better GPU or CPU but with less ram or somthing.

Sureshot3193d ago

Doesn't that make the wii u the first Nintendo console not to have an original zelda release?

wonderfulmonkeyman3193d ago

No, because Zelda U is still headed to Wii U.
They've stated as such already.

Sureshot3193d ago

Yes but if it's out on both it wouldn't be an original release would it?

wonderfulmonkeyman3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

Being adapted for a different console wouldn't change the console who's architecture it was built for.
And in any case, they haven't once stated that this is coming to the NX.
People are stating it will just because TP came to the Wii, which serves as nothing more than an exception with no evidence towards it being the rule going forwards.

Put bluntly, it's too soon to state it will hit the NX.
Especially when Zelda is due in 2016 and the NX won't be out until at least 2017, according to their habitual console release style, a precedent that has been the rule for a while now for Nintendo when releasing new hardware.

The last time we caught a glimpse of Zelda U, it was a pretty solid looking build.
They wouldn't hold it back yet another year after having done so much and having made us wait so long.

And besides, it would be better for the NX to get its own Zelda built from the ground up specifically for its new hardware.
They could make an even bigger and better Zelda, then.

ShellB3193d ago

Lets just wait for the NX 2.0 for even better results. Trust me, I'm from the future.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel18d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8818d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing17d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS17d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder17d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218317d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.