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How to avoid screwing up next-gen consoles

The Wii U launches next month, kicking off the next generation of consoles. Gamasutra's expert staff runs down what console makers should do -- and shouldn't do -- to keep their hardware relevant in a time of change.

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Dms20124218d ago (Edited 4218d ago )

Yes, tell these multi billion dollar companies how not to screw up, mister online journalists...

SlavisH24217d ago

Nintendo won last gen in sales but going first means Sony can take any good ideas and make a even better ps4 in 2013/14

DivineAssault 4217d ago (Edited 4217d ago )

the sales doesnt necessarily mean any of them won.. All the sales of the wii & look at what came out of it.. 1st party games where 90% of the good games & 3rd party devs did support it but with mostly shovel ware & casual games.. I personally think that whatever console that receives the most AAA support from 1st-3rd party is king.. MS gave sony a run for their money this time i must say.. I am very impressed with the success they had this time around but sony still has unparalleled support, features, & exclusives..

On topic, they need to focus on software for everyone this time around.. Not strictly casual w kinect or move or whatever they decide to do.. They need an ecosystem of media features, STRONG networking capabilities, & smooth running software.. Its forgivable for the technical problems this gen as it was revolutionary in media, HD, & control.. Now they need to perfect the arts & add to it..

colonel1794217d ago (Edited 4217d ago )

Microsoft needs to improve their first party offering so much. They can't rely on third parties anymore.

Sony has a good balance, but needs to work very much on marketing and third party relations so that they are not in a position again where they get bad third party ports. Also improve PSN and they need to bring more colors to US and Europe (and Japanese games) people like choice!

Nintendo needs to work a lot with third parties so that they get good games on the Wii U and need to establish a good, solid online network.

I think with that, every fan will be happy with their respective console of choice.

DivineAssault 4217d ago

yes, they all have pros n cons.. Sony is TERRIBLE with their marketing & spend so much money for no reason.. PSN needs some improvements but its solid.. Movies, games, apps, all running nicely.. Now if they incorporate their mobile devices to share content via psn, that will be epic.. Also fix some of the kinks it has while keeping it free w premium as an option.. nx gen will no doubt do these things..

MS needs to STOP the full blown kinect approach.. Its a casual & media machine 1st & core gaming machine 2nd so thats no good for core gamers.. XBL is the best network but a fee just to play & party chat is straight BS.. add in some perks like ps plus & it would be killer... & for heavens sake, make some new IPs! some w/o guns n aliens for crying out loud..

Nintendo is doing their own thing as usual but they REALLY need to show how this new & improved Nintendo Network will be better than in the past.. Keeping information like that will only keep ppl away.. show if it can all players to communticate in online games w cross game chat or whatever & how friend codes are going to be any different.. Give us accomplishments too! all the others have em so why not? its not hard to do...They have strong 1st party games that will no doubt shine when theyre ready but they should get 3rd party AAA devs to make games that take advantage of its hardware & not sloppy ports with gimmicky gamepad features slapped on.. ds/3ds had two screens for a long time & theres barely anything that really used it well.. There were a good chunk but considering how many damn units they sold, there shouldve been many more core titles using those features for some cool ideas....

Im only getting 2 nx gen consoles this time.. I know wii u is one of em & 99.9% sure PS4 will be the other.. Even if MS get more services & software, its eastern support will be limited & i love eastern games.. PS is going to get 100% support like it always has.. Nintendo will have those unique games that somehow make u feel like the devs put their hearts into building them w little to no tech issues.. 1st party wise..

ziggurcat4217d ago

"The Wii U launches next month, kicking off the next generation of consoles."

wii U is virtually current gen, so no... it's not kicking off the next gen.

TheSaint4217d ago

Agreed, they have lauded it as same as the PS3 in terms of power, please, someone explain to me how that's 'next' gen???

ninjabake4217d ago

Its all about timing, not power and graphics. Idk why everyone seems to miss the point that a new gen is dictated by time and release only.

In the history of video games, the eighth generation is a term to describe the next iteration of video game consoles that are expected to follow the current seventh generation: Microsoft's Xbox 360, Sony's PlayStation 3, and Nintendo's Wii. It also describes handheld game units released in the similar timeframe. The Nintendo 3DSwas released on March 27, 2011 and Sony's PlayS tation Vita was released on February 22, 2012 in North America.

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Orionsangel4217d ago (Edited 4217d ago )

The main thing for me is transferring my current accounts over to the new systems. So I don't lose all my gamer score and all purchases etc. Yeah, this isn't being talked about that much, but I'm sure it will as we get closer to the next gen consoles. This is the first gen with mainstream online services. The original Xbox got the ball rolling, but it was in it's infancy. This is the generation where online services have become the standard. A way of life for Gamers.

As Gamers we have everything on our online accounts, stats, achievements, avatar clothes, purchased games and DLC. It's the first gen where we're going to new consoles and all our baggage has to come with us. We're not starting fresh. Hell we better not. I spent a lot of money on XBL and PSN. I ain't losing all that shit.

It'll be interesting to see how the next gen systems tackle this issue. Will we connect a usb cable from the Xbox 720 to the 360 to transfer our XBL account? Will we just sign on to our account on Xbox 720 and then everything we own gets downloaded? How will this effect HDD space? For example if the Xbox 720 comes with a 160gb HDD. Will we have to take into account all our purchases will be adding to the Xbox 720 HDD? So if I get a Xbox 720 with a 160gb and I'm transferring 60 maybe 90gb of purchased XBL content to my new 720. How much space will I be left with? These are good questions will need answers.

tigertron4217d ago

I want large HDDs, backwards compatibility, and I want the companies to spend long and hard developing the hardware. I don't want faulty, noisy hardware etc etc.

I want to be able to redownload purchases I made and I want the Xbox to have a Blu-ray drive, oh and more exclusives. As for the PS4, again they need to take their time making sure the hardware is sound and just continue giving us lots of exclusives and ensuring backwards compatibility.

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Wii U games that still haven't been ported to Switch

The Nintendo Switch is potentially nearing its lifespan, and several Wii U games haven't found their way over as ports yet.

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Vits5d ago

I think it's better to leave games like AC: Amiibo Festival and Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash forgotten on the Wii U. Best case, they are mediocre games; worse case, they are very bad. It was a dark time for the Wii U, and the first only exists to sell Amiibo cards, whereas the second was put together in a couple of months with a shoestring budget, and it shows.

The rest of the list does have some really cool games, though. I would love to see a remake of Star Fox Zero with decent controls, and Xenoblade X doesn't require that much modification to work.

Z5015d ago

How would XCX work without dual screens functionality?

Cacabunga5d ago

Same as Paper Mario color splash. One of the best wiiu games and getting even better with dual screen. Same reason why i prefer Splatoon 1

Profchaos5d ago

This article leaves out Nintendo's most controversial game to date devils Third.
I personally found the cover system really fun in that one compared to at the time most fps games completely lacking one.

Stevonidas5d ago

Devil's Third is HIGHLY underrated.

repsahj5d ago

They should remake Starfox to the switch 2. Very beautiful game during gamecube days.

Chocoburger5d ago

Kirby is always ignored or forgotten by people, so good to see it mentioned here.
Play Kirby Canvas Curse on DS, and then play Rainbow Curse on Wii U, they're really fun and unique 'platformers' without any actual jumping.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy859d ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted9d ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere9d ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook79d ago (Edited 9d ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy859d ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga9d ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher9d ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble8d ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike9d ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv729d ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

crazyCoconuts9d ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire9d ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer19929d ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga9d ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk9d ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 7219d ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty9d ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds9d ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx129d ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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