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Why Can’t Mario Appear on 360?

X360 Mag: It is a matter of some dismay to us that titles the calibre of the quite superb Super Mario Galaxy 2 never make it to our favourite console. Yes, shooting the head clean off some 14-year-old from Ohio has its charms, but the fact platformers seem to have died a death outside of Nintendo’s jurisdiction makes us sad. And not just a sprite with frony faces on it, either.

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Joule5049d ago

Because Nintendo owns the rights to Mario. What a dumbass article.

SeanRL5049d ago (Edited 5049d ago )

Who approved this damn article? It's so stupid.

Edit: Skimmed through the article, so he just want's some platformers and some variety on the 360? I guess that's justified as the xbox does have a lot of shooters, a lot of good shooters, but still a lot.

Johnny_Bravo5049d ago

@PSfan999

Read it and you might find out why it was approved. The article is not talking about Mario directly coming to 360.

sikbeta5049d ago

It's more than that, the plumber is the freaking insignia of Nintendo, it's what made Nintendo popular, for God sake, WTH with this articles...

Persistantthug5049d ago

That is why you will never see Mario on XBOX 360.

But what about Banjo Kazooie.....what's wrong with that?

I guess the grass is always greener....I guess.

SixZeroFour5049d ago

agreed...but SHOULD choose a better title, makes the author look idiotic

is it so hard to write "why cant xbox 360's have platformers?"..."Mar io" is the character, not the genre. Its just very misleading

at first glance at the title, i was going to go straight to the comments and put "same reason master cheif cant appear on Wii...cause microsoft owns him" luckily i read the comments and article first

exnihilonihilfit5049d ago (Edited 5049d ago )

The article is three sort paragraphs, and all of them are talking about Mario. It alludes once to the idea that they'd be satisifed with some other quality platformer, but clearly these guys don't even know their own system. Braid is a brilliant platformer and so is trine. True, these aren't full retail games, but it's not like there's nothing on Xbox in the way of platforming.

This article fails.

DA_SHREDDER5049d ago

Alot of good shooters? Surely you got the console mixed up. Killzone2, MAG, Warhawk, and Resistance destroys everything on the 360. Also, why cant mario ever be on the 360? The better question is why cant Microsoft just buy first party studios instead of buying dlc's?

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ChronoJoe5049d ago

To be fair. Most of you didn't read the article, clearly.

It's more about how platformers have died, on the HD systems. Well, on 360 anyway.

I'll admit, they're not exactly thriving on PS3 either. Ratchet and Clank is still good, and I suppose you could say that Uncharted has platforming elements, but it's not Jak.

All the PS3 platformers have become third person shooters with platforming elements, come to think of it. Sucker Punch now do Infamous, Naughtydog Uncharted, and Ratchet and Clank has always been a third person shooter/ platformer.

I'd say the early ratchet games had more platforming in 'em though.

cranium5049d ago

LBP may be the only "pure" platformer in the HD consoles this gen. That makes me very sad :(

exnihilonihilfit5049d ago (Edited 5049d ago )

GOWIII and UC 1 and 2 don't just "have some platforming elements" they are huge parts of the games' structures. PS3 has a lot of nicely blended genres. Aside from that, LBP and Ratchet do just fine. Nintendo doesn't have very many platformers beyond Mario. Unlike shooters, this isn't an over saturated genre.

ChronoJoe5049d ago (Edited 5049d ago )

God of War, rather unfortunately doesn't have any platforming aspects that are any challenging. Neither does Uncharted.

I'm not being harsh there, that's just how it is. The platforming elements in those games do a good job of pacing the game between action packed, and traversal sequences, but there's no real substance to them.

LBP is fairly platform orientated, but more physics based than traditional platformers. I'd really like to see some Banjo Kazooie type game on PS3/360. Ratchet and Clank is really good but too much shooter for me.

I also have all the super mario games but Super Mario Galaxy isn't as exporation orientated as Sunshine or 64... unfortunately, fair bit more linear, and Super Mario Bros Wii is just the same as all the other Mario games, or close enough.

I'd really like to see a new adventure/platforming IP. I liked those platforming games where they had a central hub and a fair bit of freedom in things you could do (Super Mario 64/Sunshine/Ratchet and Clank 3, Banjo Kazooie games, Conkers Bad Furday/Jak Series) that type of platformer certainly doesn't exist anymore...

Sgt_Slaughter5049d ago

the title is just for hits. Don't read it it's worthless.

cLiCK_sLiCK95049d ago (Edited 5049d ago )

I lold at the people who immediately said "Oh because Nintendo owns Mario". just goes to show that people dont even read the article and post comments based on the title.

Anyways the title is stupid and misleading. I would change it so I wouldn't look like an idiot.

Side note: Xbox owners only like blowing S**T up and shoot mindlessly. Platformers would fail on the 360. Which is why they dont even bother bringing platformers to 360. If you really want platforming, just get a PS3 or a Wii. Simple as that.

1Victor5049d ago

To answer the article question BECAUSE A RETARDED MORON WROTE THIS ARTICLE.
no way in hell I'll bother to read such a stupidly wrote flame bait article

ShadowCK5048d ago

ITT: Fanboys fail to correctly read article and pretend to act smart.

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-Mezzo-5049d ago

Well, that also brings up thw question, why can't he be on PS3, iPhone, Android.

The Answer: He's Nintendo's Private Property.

captain-obvious5049d ago

actually

there was a pirated copy that I saw once
that lets you play alot of Mario games on your PS2
and same with some NES games

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WLPowell5049d ago

why wouldn't a game like mario sell on the 360. looking at games like Alan Wake, Forza 3, Ninja Gaiden 2, and Fable 3; anything that isn't a military-themed shooter won't sell. That's why MS is still guessing on what to do with Rare.

Natsu X FairyTail5049d ago (Edited 5049d ago )

Ninja Gaiden 2 sold. so did Forza 3 with Forza Motorsport 2 with 2.674 million approximately.

Fable 3 isnt even out yet. Oh and Fable 2 Sold Pretty damn good for a rpg aswell with 3.67m Sales as of now.

adram5049d ago

well, rare made kincet sports -_-

bunfighterii5049d ago

Thats not the real question.

It's purely from the standpoint of IP protection. It'd be like McDonalds all of the sudden allowing Burger King to make Big Macs and Quarter Pounders.

Roozium5049d ago

Fable 3 isn't out yet so how can you know that it won't sell? Jesus, look at your own post before posting it.

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Cajun Chicken5049d ago

Because the 360 has shot itself in the foot being a faux 'hardcore' console and not having any studios to make quality platformers since The Maw. I'll just look at my sublime PS3 Ratchet and Clank titles now.

Roozium5049d ago

I love people like you. Comes up with reasons that is totally off topic and lives in a world where Playstation is the only choice in life. Maybe you should go outside sometime and stop flaming articles on a site that is destroyed by fanboys and flame-bait articles.

bjornbear5049d ago (Edited 5049d ago )

why do you treat him like a retard?

@ below: ignored ;P

cranium5049d ago

Sarcasm. Unless you were also being sarcastic, in which case ignore this comment completely.

Cajun Chicken5048d ago

I find it funny it seems like I'm one of the only people to read this properly. Be fanboy as you want, but this article is about he 360 not having platformers and my above statements fit in with WHY.

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Price Reductions Available Now on the Digital Xbox 360 Store - Closing July 29, 2024

Xbox 360 launched 18 years ago and was a generation-defining console that invited many people to jump into gaming for the first time and connect with friends around the world. We’re thrilled people continue playing their favorite Xbox 360 games on Xbox 360, or on newer consoles via Backward Compatibility for supported titles.

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Einhander197222h ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing6921h ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander197221h ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto21h ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander197220h ago(Edited 20h ago)

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto20h ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander197219h ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff218317h ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto16h ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander197213h ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv7220h ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh19h ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander197219h ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

rlow112h ago

So you’re asking for equal treatment? That’s not how the world works or don’t you know? Which I can can’t believe you’re that naive. Xbox gets attacked on this site all the time. You have to ask why that was a big deal amongst the PS3 fan base? Because it wasn’t Xbox fans that were throwing up a huge stink. It’s was PlayStation fans and look at the results, Sony gave in and kept it open. You should celebrate it, instead of worrying about who takes it on the chin more.

The one thing I’ve Learned, is these companies don’t need people to defend them. They have all done things worth criticizing, but it will never be equal.

darthv7212h ago

While the 360 store is closing and you will not be able to make any new purchases from a 360..... you can still download content you have previously purchased prior to the closure. The same can also be said about access to 360 games available on the XBO/Series. You will be able to make new purchases of titles that are available on the current store as well as download previously purchased content that is also compatible with the XBO/Series.

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1Victor22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix7621h ago(Edited 21h ago)

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand12521h ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC21h ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander197220h ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC20h ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia17h ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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