Yes you can sit or stand with Kinect.

Aaron Greenberg confirms you can use Kinect while sitting.

[deadreckoning666]

He said depends on the game...whatever u say Greenburg.

@DWeezy91- Bubbles +

[Tony-A]

How about showing us instead of just telling us?

Thanks, dead. I'll return the favor. You look like you could use some. haha

[Bnet343]

How about you go to their booth and try it out yourself?

[SmokeyMcBear]

people have tried... and they say no sitting

[Anon1974]

I think I'm just going to have to call it a draw, because I'm not paying $150-200 for this either way.

[Tony-A]

Trust me. If I could, I would. For now, I have to go by what people have said and those people HAVE tried it. No sitting for them. Do I believe the ones who tried it, or the ones who are trying to make bank on it?

Until they actually show us with no strings attached, I'm calling bull.

[Bnet343]

Weezy, how do you know those reports weren't based off games that you can't play while sitting down? Do you really think you can play Dance Central while sitting down? Some games are just not possible while you sit down.

How do you know those "reporters" actually did try it out? Maybe they just saw or are lying? How about calling bull on that lol.

[Tony-A]

Maybe your conspiracy theory is out of hand. Why would they want to try Dance Central sitting down? That would be retarded. Obviously if they're trying to demo a game, they tried it sitting down and it didn't work.

I don't know if they actually tried it, but if they lied, they would be caught for fabricated stories then, wouldn't they? As journalists, they are not supposed to lie. They can get shut down for those things.

Until they prove sitting down is no problem, I'm not going to go by a Twitter post from some guy who hasn't even built the hardware. The guy works for the company selling it for god's sake.

[The Wood]

we say....dude do we look like celebrities ??

[Bnet343]

I'm not even going to try to have a conversation on this website anymore. It's been over run by fanboys for the last few days. What's the point? If you hate MS and Kinect, nothing will convince you otherwise. I won't bother wasting my time.

[Bathyj]

I believe Aaron.

I just cant see him getting excited about something you have to stand up for.

[Qui-Gon Jim]

They say that the skeletal mapping software has trouble tracking when you sit down. During the conference, they showed that video chat tracking the person on the other end while she was sitting down, but that doesn't need the skeletal mapping, it can be done with the RGB camera using normal head-tracking software.

My guess is "depending on the experience" means "depending on if it needs the skeletal mapping or not." Voice control can be used sitting down. RGB camera can be used sitting down. 3D skeletal mapping requires you to stand.

[sikbeta]

@Kigmal

The thing is that YOU don't get convinced So Easy, they show really nothing about kinect in the First Conference more than pre-recorded videos, in the second one they show some WTF things, so YOU dont get your Hopes too High when you didn't see anything about it

there are lot of x360 supporters that have the guts to assume and accept that MS failed and didn't give anything For Them like more Games and they are not trying to be indulgent with whatever thing MS shows now and that's the way it has to be...

[HolyOrangeCows]

Well, you might be able to do some stuff with skittles sitting down....otherwise....eh...

[Shadow Flare]

If Aaron said you can sit and use Kinetc, why did the developer say you can't sit and use Kinetc?

[Elven6]

Which developer said that? I can only remember IGN saying it in their preview.

[Shadow Flare]

"According to Microsoft, you can play some Kinect games sitting down. It "varies" by experience. However, several developers giving us demos have said the exact opposite. Sometimes the contradiction comes from the same person--one day telling us you have to be standing and then the next saying everything can be done while sitting.

Which is true? We don't know for certain, as we have not had the opportunity to play anything seated. Suffice to say, if you have to stand for every game (or for menu navigation), that's a big problem. This remains a concern until we ourselves can test out Kinect from our rear."

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/a...

[Bigpappy]

IGN said it was a concern that they could not test. The PR guy for the developer only knows that his game does not allow sitting. He can not speak for all things Kinect because he does not know. Greenburg is the PR guy for M$. I think if he did not know if you could sit he could easily reach some one who knew. Better than that, I am pretty sure he gets to see pretty much every game for the thing and how they can be played. You guys are enjoying this Kinet bashing way too much. I have mine already pre-order and I am confident that I will sit and use it Nov 4th.

[Shadow Flare]

hmm....or if you read the quote again you'll see its not "PR Guys" IGN were talking to, but the developers themselves. And i think they would know, since they make the games. Or you can choose to believe Aaron Greenberg who will do anything to impress anyone; even to the extent of using pre-recorded footage of natal for 2 conferences at E3. Aaron Greenberg wants to make sure these things sell so of course he'll say yes. Game developers know the limitations of hardware intimately.

Believe whoever you want

[Bzone24]

IGN said the developers contradicted themselves so you can't take that for fact that you can't sit. It's not too difficult to understand, that if someone gives you two different answers, you can't just choose the one you want to call it a fact.

Just wait till it comes out and see if your lazy ass can sit the whole time. Oh wait you don't really care, you are just here for one reason...to troll. I'm sorry, carry on I guess.

[Captain Tuttle]

I don't even know why I bother to read the comments anymore.

[Redlogic]

whats more fun than reading childish arguments? a pile of dead babies thats what!! muahahaha

[Mista T]

lol! it can do anything! we can go anywhere! :P

[kewlkat007]

Too polarizing on here meng...If any gamer on here had any interest in the 360 for any reasons related to gaming.. I don't think it's MS kinect on MS's 5th year, they were waiting for to win them ova...lol

Obviously, depending on the game is what dictates your stance.

Motion gaming is not traditional in most aspects. From Sports games/Dance games...etc there is no point of sitting down if a games was meant to be played a certain way.

A Dev making games for Kinect and other motion Sensing approaches, might as well just use a traditional controller, if that's the case.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

PrimeSense which is a MS partner for Kinect shows this video of people is sitting down:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I guess they must be blatantly lying in their promo video? I can see how people would think MS is evil and will lie, but do you think PrimeSense would lie to?

WELL IN THAT CASE, HERE IS A VIDEO OF A GUY USING IT IN REAL TIME while SITTING:

http://www.engadget.com/201...

But I'm sure that is a lie too!

Fact is there are plenty of videos around showing people sitting down in front of the camera and the camera tracks fine in 2D. If you can locate the target, doing 2D or 3D isn't much harder. So I say it is a load of BS that it can't track while a person sits.

The only reason I would see it is such is people choose not to implement that mode, because it doesn't make sense for that game. For instance why would you be dancing WHILE sitting on the coach playing Dance Central?

[Redlogic]

and this is probably just my ignorance with not knowing what exactly Kinect is made of, but what does PrimeSense have to do with anything? I actually watched that first video, which in all honestly looks to much like a promo video and completely staged to a ridiculous degree. I saw that guy order pizza and I had to turn it off. Did PrimeSense create a part of the Kinect camera?

I too read IGN's 5 concerns article and they mentioned the thing about natal having trouble picking up the skeletal something or other when you sit so naturally I wondered as well. (Btw full disclosure: I'm not planning on getting Kinect but am curious to see what kind of advances it makes (or doesn't make)). I don't understand why you guys can't just have a sensible argument, all the comments section turns into is people callin each other fanboys....when all else fails call him a fanboy, that'll teach him!!!

[Redlogic]

Just incase you guys wanted to read it....

Standing Room Only
According to Microsoft, you can play some Kinect games sitting down. It "varies" by experience. However, several developers giving us demos have said the exact opposite. Sometimes the contradiction comes from the same person--one day telling us you have to be standing and then the next saying everything can be done while sitting.

Which is true? We don't know for certain, as we have not had the opportunity to play anything seated. Suffice to say, if you have to stand for every game (or for menu navigation), that's a big problem. This remains a concern until we ourselves can test out Kinect from our rear.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

What has been reported and makes sense is PrimeSense is providing parts of the technology for the hardware and part of it for software, more specifically the simple interface controls. The skeleton mapping is all MS.

Check out the second link and the second video at the bottom to see the technology in action with a guy sitting. That is less of a promo video and more of a tech demonstration.

[IaMs12]

Well they have showed us before, it was a race car driving game and the family was sitting down "driving". Why wouldnt it work sitting down... and it would depend on the game wehter you need to jump and stuff so what is the problem about depending on the game?

[Doc Sony]

Oh yeah I remember them showing us that ? It was in one of Microsofts scripted Natal adds.

lol

[TheDeadMetalhead]

Because Greenberg has NEVER lied before, Right? ...Right?

Also, am I the only one that wants to punch him whenever I see that article picture?

[mrv321]

Proof?

Natal causes pregnancy depends on the game or experience.

[xc7x]

1 of 10 games? need more clarification microsoft!!

[BubbleSystemSuck]

so... if the game is seated, you need to sit, and sit Kinect WITH you?

And if you have no experience on gamming?

Sit? Jump? Roll?

wee need a Nintendo Wii manual like.

[XtreemGamer]

No you can't... you have to stand up. Don't your mom told you,to don't lie Greenberg?

[AutoCad]

Its common sense..
You obviously have to stand when using your legs or torso to play...

When just using your hands, you could just stay seated or stand.

[the-show-stopper]

any video proof you can show us greenberg or do we have to take ur word for it?

[n4gno]

greenberg is paid to lie, so...don't be too hard with him, it's his job (it's more funny to see fantards believe him each time, even if he prove a thousand time to be the perfect seller/lier for the firm)

[A change in the wind]

I love all of the damage control MS is going through right now with Kinect, yet, the media in general seems to be pretty pleased how Move turned out.

[ActionBastard]

When the $150 price of Kinect came out, he also tweeted: "No Kinect price announced yet, retail price estimates are purely speculative, final price & pack-in details are not yet determined."

http://www.walmart.com/ip/P...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site...

I'm going with IGN on this one.

[Lekumkee]

LOL! Walmart has it listed for 3 cents cheaper. There you go Kinect believers go get your pre-orders started.

[nygamer28]

look at the ganestop site....it clearly says its just an estimate and they dont know the full price

[MGRogue2017]

If you are going to sit down while playing.. then you'd might aswell just use the controller instead.

[meganick]

"Yes you can sit or stand with Kinect"

Okay, great. But can I use it while standing on my head?

[MGOelite]

pics or gtfo

[P_Bomb]

What if you're naked, will it read you as having 3 legs?

*system asplodes* :p

[slutface]

lmfaooo

[Redempteur]

aren't you a little pretentious with *that* ??

[commodore64]

Gee dude, you must have very short legs.

Sorry to hear.
I am not one to discriminate.

[Lekumkee]

nvm....

[authentic24]

you should be able to sit when playing a driving game, however in the kart game that they presented and in the much older video with them playing Burnout you could not sit down. I think that is what the journalist were talking about. I truly don't think that educated people would try to sit while playing games that more than obviously require standing to mimic things such as dancing and exercising.

[bjornbear]

it could or couldn't be true.

either way, I hope for the sake of the product it works while sitting, yet I have seen no proof of it.

every single demo has been done standing so....skeptical.

[Bellcross]

Prove it or stfu.

[Megahurtz1986]

I think they are selling Kinect as more of multimedia wireless Universal Remote peripheral thingy then a gaming device. The best features are not for gaming if you think about. There Conference was mostly about chatting with friends across the world and controlling movies with voice blah blah blah blah. GAMERS WANT GAMES!

[Delta_Z3RO5]

Then i guess I'm sold ! im gona pick one up for my microwave, I'm tired of punching in number like crazy, like I'm gonna enter some secret part of the pentagon.

I'll just be like "microwave hot pockets 30 secs ASAP! " ....just hope my

microwave doesn't red ring.

[Sarcasm]

Of course you can play while sitting, it's Greenberg approved! You know dang well he didn't gain all that weight being active.

[Delta_Z3RO5]

hmmmm this kinect is tricky....so...the target audience is chimps ?

[Johnny Rotten]

someone has to get the banana out of the jar!

[tiamat5]

That's good to hear. For a second I was sure Microsoft was trying to commit financial suicide. They already have a lot of damage control as it is. For instance the fact that the Move has feedback rumble and Kinect has no feedback at all. What's the point of motion control emersion into a game if you have nothing signifying that your punches, hits or strikes are connecting? Hmmmm......

[instrumentalist]

Aaron's face confirmed.
Other than that, I vote "not likely"

[southernbanana]

WOW! You would think some people on this site get paid for their brand loyalty. I learned a long time ago it is foolish to put all of your faith behind any one person or company. To each his own I guess.

[Delta_Z3RO5]

" I learned a long time ago it is foolish to put all of your faith behind any one person or company"
_____________________________ _______________________________ _______________

unless it's Sony and Kevin Butler ! haha KB ftw!

[southernbanana]

Oh the fanboys gotta love them. :-)

[dkgshiz]

Or mentioned that you could sit while playing Kinect. You most likely cant.

[iliimaster1]

well why didint they show a game where you can sit down.. and how far do you have to be to be able to sit down and have good no lag on it? come on there is a reason why they showed almost nothing with connect... kiddie games and river raft.... yeah ill play river raft while sitting down..... nah... i pass on this tech just like sony and Nintendo passed on this tech.... if i want a workout i go to the gym not play games like riverraft where ur jumping amoung others.... give me my move

[RAM MAGNUMS]

Don't they pay IGN to Lie?

So confused. I thought Microsoft told us to Listen To IGN.
So greenberg is saying IGN lies?

New IGN $Tory tonight or tommorow. It'll depend if the editor in chief has a direct deposit account.

[ReBurn]

Gamers sure are lazy.

[00]

Well If you're using 90% of your brain to win a game Why use your body?

On a more serious not it's always funny when something gets blown out of proportion on N4G.

[HopSkotch]

Well so much for the Physically disabled if this isn't true...

[XxZxX]

now the real question:
Can you stand while taking a crap...that's a 10 million dollar question right there.

[RandomDude655]

Greenberg, I'm not going to stand for this

LOL...is this thing on?

[n4gno]

""Yes you can sit or stand with Kinect"

ok, but can i have a real game to play with, before 2013 please ?

[JJFNIGHTS80]

They can't even make up their minds. pretty soon someone else will say oops no can't keep it stand or flat.

[Vinster]

I'm sorry I may have missed the info on this but can kinect do local co-op gameplay or is this a one person per camera thing?

[Senden]

Well yeah it's pretty obvious you can sit while playing.. I mean look how fat he is!

[m23]

I was worried for a sec, because I think some of the hardcore games, if there are any would probably let you sit down. In one of the interviews with Chris Lewis, he said voice command and hand gestures can compliment a controller. So most likely you would be sitting down. I highly doubt they would make you stand up to tell the xbox to pause a movie. It's common sense that it depends on the game, of course you have to stand to play sports games and dance games on Kinect. I am very interested in this technology as it is definitely moving the industry forward, yet Microsoft is being attacked for trying something new. Yes, I know eyetoy was around for a while but Sony did not take it this far. I am not looking forward to the games aside from maybe Child of Eden, but the dashboard navigation and voice command is enough to peak my interest. Depending on the price, I may be getting Kinect.

[prettyboy1]

kinect seems useless for gaming,period.does it fkin matter if u can sit.we dont even kno if the sh!t is on the level.

[KILLERAPP]

I’ll use it on the toilet then, Awesome this is one of the many uses MS was talking about…

[KILLERAPP]

It would have been idiotic for it not to work while sitting, I see hate for natal for years to come thanks to that conference MS is now in the position Sony was in 2006 after that awful conference, they now have to show that Natal is relevant and why we should buy it, is going to be a long road for MS and there is still no price so the debate will continue will beyond it's release, MS it is your turn to make a comeback like Sony did…

[Shendow]

Yeah right, why didn't sit playing forza? Or kinectkart or whatever it is called.

Yeah he is full of it.

[nygamer28]

ok guys calm down lets just wait and see(we still have five more months to release)

[djfullshred]

Maybe sitting down is one of those amazing things we'll see after Kinect gets past "scratching the surface".

haha, sorry that shot was too easy not to take.