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Rumor: Gamespot's E3 2010 Showfloor Map Reveals Unannounced Games

Gamespot's E3 2010 showfloor map may have leaked several unannounced games: Dead or Alive 5, Dragon Age II and Mass Effect 3.

Announced games that are unconfirmed for E3 at the moment but appears on the map: Aliens Colonial Marines, Baiten Kaitos Origins, Final Fantasy Versus XIII and Xenoblade.

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SonyGoogle5481d ago

I'm not complaining, but didn't 2 come out less than 6 months ago?

Keele5481d ago

Yeah, I've got doubts on the 3rd.

Conloles5481d ago (Edited 5481d ago )

Hmm unannounced EA game gives hope for Battlefield 3! Also in regards to ME3 I think its possible, theyve got the tech down so it would be pretty quick to turn a game over.

Timesplitter145481d ago (Edited 5481d ago )

Well if they announce it, it means it's got at least one year before release

LordMarius5481d ago (Edited 5481d ago )

Final Fantasy Versus XIII

oh yes please, and please still be exclusive :P
but of course Gamespot could just be guessing

Keele5481d ago (Edited 5481d ago )

I see your ''please still be exclusive'' and raise you a please not be exclusive.

JD_Shadow5481d ago

Why? So they can gloat about the latest "me too" game to hit the 360 while everyone else wonders what the game COULD'VE been like if it stayed exclusive when it finally DOES come out?

C'mon, people who want it to happen, THINK!

Keele5481d ago (Edited 5481d ago )

No, not so I can gloat about the latest game to supposed ps3 exclusive to hit the 360, but so I can play and enjoy this game. Continue to make baseless assumptions like an idiot about what it is that you have absolutely no idea about (my logic).

''Everyone'', that's a pretty massive word to use. No, just the hardcore Ps3 fanboy populace that are surprisingly.. the exact thing that you had decided to describe about me. That behavior is (I conclude) obviously to reassert how 'valuable' their Ps3 purchase is (insecurity) and to be able to further establish how lesser worth the purchase of others is also (even more insecurity).

Do not confuse thinking with bias, if you had a 360 as opposed to a ps3, you'd think the exact opposite of what you currently do now.

The reason I do not see the bad in it being multiplatform is because games have the capability of being successful and good regardless of whether they're on one specific platform or multiple. Obviously this has eluded you due to the sole reason I had already stated above.. 'bias'.

You're the one that needs to stop thinking in your one dimensional perspective.

Spydr075481d ago (Edited 5481d ago )

So, what Keele is saying is that he would prefer that Halo, Gears, ME, Fable, etc., all go multiplatform so they can be played on the PS3. I see nothing wrong with that.

Relax, guys, he's not a fanboy. He has no desire for exclusivity on any platform. SMG2 on the PSP!!! Zelda on the 360! Wii Sports becomes "Multi-platform Sports".

Edit:
No, it's NOT impossible. Improbable? Yes. The rights to any IP could (note could) be released by the holder of the IP. Not to mention the original dev could just do what was done with Ninja Gaiden. Halo 3: SIGMA! Fable 2: Sigma. I think you get the point. Easy for any dev that isn't 1st party.

Besides, I'm on your side. I thought you said you didn't like exclusive games. Wouldn't doing away with them all create your gaming utopia? Win for all!

All bow to Keele-ism! WOOT!!!

Keele5481d ago (Edited 5481d ago )

Don't be stupid, Spydro, that is impossible. When it comes to third party games though, of course, yes.

Spydr075481d ago

Lol, I kid, I kid. If I offend, I'm sorry, please, please, forgive!

Joking aside, I disagree with your general ideology. I would no more want to see GeoW on PS than MGS4 on 360. Why? Becuase I like loyalty. Devs gain a fanbase on a current system and that system helps bring them up. The f,ans do their part, too. I think jumping ship creates a feeling of betrayal among the masses. To me, that's bad.

I'm not even going to get into the basic quality drop when a prior exclusive goes multiplat.

Eamon5481d ago

I agree with Keele.

It's true in numerous cases that multiplatform games still turn out to become both successful and enjoyable.

But I do understand the need for exclusivity (not from idiot fanboys but from developers). There are developers who have aims and dreams for a game that can only be possible on PS3 hardware.

But most of the time, when a game remains PS3 exclusive, the only significant improvements are better visuals and uncompressed content (because of blu-ray).

As for gameplay, I believe even the Wii can have games with groundbreaking gameplay. That depends on the how creative and smart the developer is. Not how powerful the console is.

Look at Portal and Braid. Two of the most legendary games to have ever been made. They both can run on lesser hardware but produce unmatched gaming experiences.

But most fanboys blind themselves in thinking "better graphics = better game."

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rob60215481d ago (Edited 5481d ago )

If you go to the neogaf link it says, gamespot did the same thing last year, it's just educated guesses from gamespot.

ArchangelMike5481d ago

Square Enix has sold out for me. I understand about the financial market, investors, stock holders, bigger market share... blah... blah... blah...

But I think all gamers agree that they would rather have a AAA title, than a AA title. Yes more people got to experience the game on the 360, but it was a lacklustre experience as a result.

FFvXIII will go the same way, simply because of teh development costs. But why am I not bothered, because Sony are killing the competition in terms of the number and quality of their exclusives right now. Microsoft and Nintendo can't match Sony on this point.

Microsoft has to then resort to "look we've nabbed that exclusive, aren't we the big boys?" Well no actually, not if it's a dumbed down crappy port of what should have been a AAA stellar game. They've got the money to invest in lots of thier own damned exclusives, I guess they either just don't have the talent, or don't have the horsepower!!!

tablav5481d ago

Come on, don't be pathetic guys...

I own a PS3 and 360 and think that each console has great games and features, but I got FFXIII on PS3 and a friend got it on 360, and the differences were so negligable that only stupid Fanboys would even bother to compare screenshots to see if 'their console is better'.

And for the record, myself and said friend then played a six hour sesh on Doom 2 and the graphics on that didn't stop us enjoying what is one an awesome game.

Stephen55435480d ago

I completely agree with you, but I just wanted to let you know that the current argument about FFXIII isnt about which one for which system is better/looks better. They already realize that they look and play similarly. People are upset because they feel like the PS3 version was watered down because of the 360 version. This is based off of Square saying that they wanted to make both versions look and play pretty much similarly so that everyone can have the same experience.(I have FFXIII for the PS3, by the way.)

Personally, I dont think that Final Fantasy XIII would have been a different game if it was an exclusive(like a lot of people are saying). I've heard people say that they removed towns and the like because of the 360, that's a load of crap. If you liked or disliked the game it isnt because it went multiplatform, it's because Square made XIII that way, and that's the way it was gonna be before the exclusivity being removed. Whether or not the graphics would be better or not is a different story, but I saw no problem with the graphics, so I dont see why people complain about that.

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Tripl3seis5481d ago

For god sakes ffviii better be exclusive to the ps3 I'm hoping

Dragunov5481d ago

Everyone here knows it, FFXIII wont be exclusive and like XIII will be dumbed down. I hope its not, maybe there is 5% chance

N4BmpS5481d ago (Edited 5481d ago )

Pretty sure this isn't every thing. A lot of games though. Rather quite impressive.

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The Real Enemy of Gaming Isn’t DEI. It’s the CEO

From Horse Armor to Mass Layoffs: The Price of Greed in Gaming. Inside the decades-long war on game workers and the players who defend them.

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jambola3d ago

maybe a real enemy is people who use terms like "the real enemy"
there can be more than 1 bad thing, t's not like a kids show with 1 big bad

senorfartcushion1d 11h ago

This is very much a “dummy who volunteers themselves to the middle” comment.

The real enemy is a common phrase, people use it all the time.

Calm down.

jambola1d 8h ago

i'm very calm
you seem very upset however

Notellin20h ago

You don't seem calm at all. Don't take this so seriously, you seem desperate responding to others defending your opinion that lacks any value or critical thought.

jambola19h ago

stop projecting
i'm not desperately dong anything, i'm tapping at keys on my keyboard bud

PapaBop19h ago

It's not like kids show with one bad guy? I present to you.. Bobby Kotick

ABizzel117h ago(Edited 17h ago)

DEI was never the problem and it was an ignorant take to begin with.

DEI is why games like Kena Bridge of Spirits, South of Midnight, and Ghost of Tsushima exist.

DEI is why we have a huge resurgence in Japanese, Chineses, and Korean developers producing games like Stellar Blade, Black Myth, and why Nintendo & Sony exist.

DEI is why more and more games have HUGE accessibility options with both Sony and MS fully behind this.

DEI was never a bad thing, the entire purpose of DEI is representation of all people, genders, disabilities, etc…

The problem was people used DEI as a default derogatory term to describe what they believed was forced representation, which allowed colorist, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic fools to run away with the negative DEI narrative.

jambola6h ago

you don't get to decide other people's motivations
sorry to break it to you

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Sciurus_vulgaris3d ago

Executives seem to often have an obsession with perpetual revenue growth. There is always a finite amount of consumers for a product regardless of growth. Additionally, over investment is another serious issue in gaming.

Killer2020UK1d 9h ago

The fact that they also rarely have any real expertise in game development compounds things. They'll look at what's been successful elsewhere, lack the knowledge to properly understand why they have been successful and then force a team to 'reproduce' their badly interpreted idea of that success.

We see it so often with sequels to games that were successful too. The team are left well alone, they have a break through hit and all of sudden the money men descend on the IP and completely railroad the dev team's ideas. Usually winds up being 'make the same game but MORE'

LoveSpuds20h ago

This is true throughout all of the corporate and public sector organisations to be honest. CEO's generally move amongst the corporate world without any need to have experience of a particular industry, they simply need to rely on their senior leadership credentials. A CEO of a retail giant will just as easily transition to a CEO role in the energy sector for example.

Not defending CEOs here to be clear, I think it's a huge part of the reason the western world is so fucked up. CEOs don't need to care about the sector they work in, in fact it's better if they don't care if they want to screw everyone to make profits.

GhostScholar1d 9h ago

Companies don’t hire executives to break even. If the goal is breaking even then why start the company in the first place.

Soy1d 8h ago

That's understood; it's getting record profits and expecting to always beat those record profits, and seeing anything less as a total failure. Then they lay people off and raise prices to reach those record profit levels again, just to sate shareholders. It's setting expectations way too high just to spike share prices, then inevitably falling short. It's feeling entitled to being more successful than everyone else. It's the CEOs doing all this to boost their own bonuses.

ABizzel118h ago

Growth benefits the company’s profits and therefore the company’s stock if publicly traded, which pleases the shareholders making them more and more rich, which is why Growth is always at the forefront of the vast majority of any publicly traded company.

More growth = More Money and the people at the top want all the money they can get. I can’t really blame them anyone would love to see their profits go from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, to multi-millions it’s almost like a gambling addiction.

But it also goes to show someone how morals can go out the window for a lot of these people, and how amazing some CEOs are when they catch this early and provide a balance solution that takes complete care of their employees across the board while keeping the business sustainable IE: Insomniac Games ALWAYS on the best places to work list. The rest of the industry could learn.

jambola2d ago

honestly, the "real" enemy of gaming, is ourselves
if nobody bought horse armor, shitty dlc would have died almost overnight
if we stood firm and nobody bought games from companies that were bad with layoffs, it would be solved
we're the idiots supporting awful business practices, we are the ones enouraging it

TiredGamer1d 14h ago

I think the reality that we don't want to convince ourselves of is that without the rise of "horse armor" and DLC, game budgets would have essentially stagnated (smaller teams/smaller games), or game prices would have risen much more dramatically than they have. There was an incessant drive for bigger worlds, infinite detail, and hundreds of hours of "gameplay" over the last two decades, that while perhaps a natural evolution of things, needed a suitable funding stream to accomplish.

HyperMoused1d 3h ago

What...CEOs make tens of millions and that doesnt include SLT etc etc...we now have multiple editions of games, in game currency, MT's, battle passes.....and what do we get..worse game than what was coming out 20 years ago....dont drink the cool aid, its this nickel and dime crap that is absolutely leading us to gaming destruction.

senorfartcushion1d 11h ago

This is the worst possible answer to this conundrum. Blaming the masses is blaming the only people who are constantly “told” to buy.

Consumers are the only ones not to blame here. People make their own choices all the time. Disney movies are bombing and DEInis being blamed. Has that been enough to put Disney out of business? No and it never will.

Christopher1d 11h ago

Disagree. Businesses are able to do what they do because people are bad consumers and don't think critically about purchases. Disney got away with doing shit stuff for years and it's just the last year where people got tired of it. It's not like it didn't work for 5 years or so for Disney to do the things they've done. They'll just move onto another way to get people to see movies and it will be just as bad but more profitable until people wake up and realize it.

TiredGamer1d 10h ago

Consumerism drives business behavior. It's not so much "blaming" as it is observing behavior. The point I'm making is that the direction that games have gone are driven by the spending. Consumers are spending on DLC and they are driving the expectation of more glitz and padded out (lengthier) games. If they continue to pay, they will continue to drive that direction until a threshold is reached that forces a change in behavior.

senorfartcushion1d 9h ago

Corporate advertising is the most powerful force on the planet.

This is N4G for god sake, every day there are arguments between people who are Team Xbox and Team PlayStation because they’ve been convinced that having an identity built on paying money to Sony and Microsoft matters more than having one as individual gamers who can play whatever they want.

And THEN we get to the corporate advertising part: to play whatever you want is to sink MORE into the advertising pits, making it so that you can more than one specific product.

jambola1d 8h ago

ah you're right
they were told to buy it, it's clearly impossible to avoid that
if enough people stopped supporting, it would stop
disney not stopping would only be because enough people didn't stop

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victorMaje1d 10h ago

Agreed. I’ve been saying for years, announce you won’t be buying the upcoming game because of the practices of the previous game, then you only have to stick to your guns once, see how quickly things change for the better.

We have to unite in what we shouldn’t purchase.

jambola1d 8h ago

just imagine a world, fifa came out worse, nobody buys the next one until they see proof it's better and stick to it
or games being forced online for single player and nobody buys it
things would change so fast

HyperMoused1d 3h ago

Just like scooby doo, you have shown us the real monsters are us

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Inverno1d 16h ago

Greed and greedy people have and always will be the main issue for everything wrong in the world. Everything is a product to be exploited for monetary gain. Even when there are things that could help progress us along for the sake of making our lives easier that thing must be exploited for monetary gains. Anything that tells you otherwise is propaganda to make you complicit.

coolfool1d 15h ago

I've never thought "DEI" (although the way most people use it doesn't match it's real definition) is the problem with games. Good games have continued to be good when they have a diverse cast, and likewise, bad games have continued to be bad. There isn't a credible example I've seen where a diverse cast has been the direct cause of a game being bad.

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