Videogames accused of being a drug and of causing tragedies with firearms

"In the midst of the 21st century, video games have established themselves as a means of entertainment to take into account, making each generation more popular, but with popularity comes also greater hatred by people who are well positioned in life to give to know his voice and consequently his criticisms. It is not the first time, nor will be the last, that games are accused of various evils of the world; accused of being something they are not, and so suddenly I remember all the controversy that Quintino Aires caused when he went to a TVI program to defame the games, accusing them of being a drug."

[strayanalog]

Here we go again. And now it's just laughably sad.
Really, guys? Just games? Not bad parenting, the smut on television, someone's mental health, or our constant connected digital lives? Nope. Just games.‎
Man, if all problems are that simple I need to start blaming pizza for trying to make me fat.‎

[FlyingFoxy]

I guess the only way it could influence somebody is if they have mental issues in the first place, for example if a kid plays an adult game which they shouldn't be playing, and they have slight mental illness, then i guess thst could be enough to cause them to do something. Probably rare but a possibility.

Games do have age ratings for a reason too.

[rainslacker]

Too late. McDonalds has already been blamed for America's obesity problem.

For every problem in the world, there exists a scapegoat. We live in an era where personal responsibility is not a thing, and everything has a cause which is black and white, so should be easily remedied if you just get rid of said catalyst.

[yellowgerbil]

Ways to fix it.
Only can own small caliber handguns for personal defense and hunting riffles/shotguns. There is NO reason for someone non military to have assault rifles or sniper rifles.
Ways to have 0 effect on it.
Make games illegal

[No Way]

You're delusional. Bet, a shotgun can do as much or more damage as an "assault rifle," which is the wrong term anyway.. a .22 caliber pistol or rifle can kill just as much as an AR15. Also, everyone freaks out about "AR15" but doesn't talk about an AK47 (which has a more devastating round).

Think - if someone comes to fight you with a bat and there is one laying on the ground. Are you gonna pick up that bat to fight back? Or you gonna try using just your hands (at a disadvantage)? Get real.

If youre gonna break into a house, are you gonna choose the one with a big dog or the one without? Any smart person will choose the house without. This is exactly what the gun toting psychos are doing - not to mention, they dont care if the guns are legal or not - they want to kill you, you think an illegal gun will change their mind? ....

[yellowgerbil]

what I proposed was REASONABLE gun control, there is no reason for a normal citizen to need automatic weapons, I concede that in this world a handgun for personal protection against someone breaking into your house to kill or rob you is reasonable and should be within your rights to own, but again what possible reason do you have for an assault riffle? Your argument sounds like the argument they used for getting nukes "well we need them to even the playing field or else we will be vulnerable"

[shinoff2183]

I agree yellowgerbil.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I'm sorry but you're insane what yellow is talking about is something that is already been done with several developed countries and they've had great success with doing this.

A shotgun of course is going to do damage to a single individual much more than a single shot and of assault rifle but the issue is not singular damage to one individual it is actually the volume of bullets that is coming out of an assault rifle that is making it a much more dangerous weapon in regards to killing people in huge volume.

A shotgun is also not going to be shooting at such a fast rate that it makes it impossible for people to react.

What are yellows proposing is reasonable and it's already been proven by several developed countries.

[UnHoly_One]

You realize an AR-15 is not an automatic weapon?

Stop watching CNN or MSNBC and educate yourself on guns just a little.

Automatic weapons are illegal. Have been for a LONG time.

An AR-15 is not automatic, and it’s not an “assault rifle”. “Assault rifle” is just a term that politicians and media that don’t understand guns use. Or a class of weapons in video games. :D

The AR in AR-15 stands for ArmaLite Rifle, after the company that designed the gun 60 years ago.

It’s not a weapon used by the military and it’s no more scary than any hunting rifles that are all over the woods around here during deer season.

Listen, I’m not trying to be a jerk, and I’m not calling you stupid. But nearly everyone that is on your side of this argument doesn’t understand what it is that they want to ban.

I’m not telling you to go out and buy a gun. Just do some research. Maybe go to a local range and ask some questions. You’ll be fascinated at all the stuff you didn’t know, and it might just give you a different perspective.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

You know what I use to believe in gun ownership but im tired of this bullshit and I damn sure worry about my niece growing up and going to high school. This country needs to seriously look at our gun laws and do something about them because as it stands now they just aren't working and I for one am tired of seeing this senseless violence and there's no reason a 19 year old kid with mental problems should have had guns in the first place.

[shinoff2183]

Thing is I don't need to be educated in guns for me to know it won't make my junk bigger. Second thing is I don't need to have an educational course to know that those kinda weapons arent needed, semi auto, auto, call it what you will. Third i just have no interest in firearms. Maybe you could stop watching fox so much where they jam down your throat that the right to bear arms is so crucial for your living of life, and they act like the right to bear arms has the same meaning as it did 200 odd years ago when we as a country needed to defend ourself against the British and what have you.
Imo constitutions can be amended and this one is long overdue.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I don't think the labeling regarding an AR-15 really matters at the end of the day a weapon of that magnitude does not need to be in the hands of any citizen in the United States.

Trust me we've all heard the semantics of gun nuts telling us that AR doesn't stand for assault rifle but at the end of the day the debate is to not have weapons that are like AR-15s, whether or not somebody wants to classify that as an assault rifle actually is not as relevant as you might think put it this way ...add that gun to the list of weapons the United States does not want being in any regular citizens hands.

Regardless of what you want to call it I don't want that gun in my country anymore

Broward county is a county that I actually live in currently right now in that school is not too far from where I'm at I have many Facebook friends that know many of the victims from that shooting I'm sorry but until some of you guys have to go through entire long post of people who died from this tragedy and having several members of your own family that know people who have passed away you're not really going to fully understand this.

There is no benefit to keeping things the same. All you're arguing is semantics by the way....

That's nice about the history of the gun but that doesn't change that many of us in the United States do not want this weapon all readily available anymore.

Did you think the history of the weapon was relevant to us wanting IT banned? Did you think what we're calling it is relevant to us wanting IT banned? 🤔

[UnHoly_One]

_-EDMIX-_ you are missing the point of why I made that correction.

I'm not just picking on the term "assault rifle" because I'm a "gun nut" (thanks for that, by the way), the point is that phrase is completely made up to make it sound more scary.

There is nothing about that gun that makes it any more dangerous than other guns.

Why do you think that kid might have picked that particular gun? Do you think he did a bunch of research and determined it was the best for killing a bunch of people?

Or do you think he picked it because he hears people wanting to ban it, so obviously it must be the best?

Or, more importantly, do you think his decision was influenced by the fact that he needed to be 21 to buy a handgun, so he had to settle for a rifle?

So let's say we completely ban the AR-15, then the next one of these happens with a different rifle, or a shotgun, or a pistol, then we ban that specific gun as well? And so on and so forth?

Where does it stop?

Sounds to me like it stops when the only people with guns are criminals, and we are all helpless to defend ourselves. Great plan.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed I had a jiu-jitsu tournament 6 years ago in Australia and one of the people I was competing against told me all about their buyback program.

They're still very much a gun culture in regards to hunting but they no longer have the ridiculous amount of Weaponry that they used to. Basically they're only allowed a certain number of weapons based on caliber, the most violent of semi-automatic automatic in a bunch of other weapons were completely outlawed in the buyback program basically gave you top dollar for all of your guns, and it made the guns that were currently legal optional and made the guns that we're currently illegal mandatory for the buyback program.

So from what I seen is it worked wonders for them. I just don't see it necessary for in the United States of America or really any developed country to have these types of weapons readily available for citizens.

[monkeyshawn60]

Here comes the bs sbout games being bad for you.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

This is just stupid

[snoopgg]

I have plenty of guns locked in my gunsafe. I play shooters all the time, but I only kill people in videogames. No problem here.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed

the problem has nothing to do with people who are responsible gun owners I think the real problem clearly is the readily availability of these type of weapons to just anybody. And the United States of America when you drive a car you need insurance you need to literally proved that you're able to drive and you have to take a test proving that you're still able to do that years later basically for the rest of your life, majority of these things are not requirements to own a weapon, in fact none of those things are a national requirement at all ,this is a huge problem in this country because it seems like you can obtain a gun easier than you could do anything in this country.

[Raiden]

@ snoopgg
You have many guns and you have control, you have a gunsafe therefore only you and your wife or consenting adult has access (i would hope), but the ease of access to purchasing your guns, some people don't have your control, some people have deep mental issues and these are the kind of people who are having easy access to guns, I'm sorry, but for me one gun is enough for protection, for me have more than is just wrong, but i happy about your gun safe.

[Kumakai]

Easy access to guns by angry people is what causes shootings. I’ve played video games most of my life and I’ve never once thought it would be reasonable to go shoot up a place. Gimme a motherf***ing break. Australia banned guns in ‘96. Th y haven’t had a mass shooting since. Pretty sure they still play video games since then. No mass shootings in the U.K. or Japan. Both have pretty good gaming markets... and the same for the rest of developed countries. Smoke and mirrors by paid polititicians.

[AnubisG]

You might want to look into knife attacks in these nations. The UK is planning on a huge ban on a ton of knife types as we speak because as these countries banned guns, knife attacks skyrocketed.

The answer is not a ban. The answer is strickt gun laws. For example, a thorough psychological evaluation every 6 months that the gun owner has to pay for. That will create jobs as well, bring in taxes too and will make sure that the likelyhood of unstable individuals owning guns is slim to none. But there should be more measures than this. This is just one example. People will find a way to kill other people no matter what you do. Unfortunate, but sadly that is how people are.

[Atticus_finch]

YOU yourself might to look at those knife attacks, most mass knife attacks can leave alot of injuries but very few casualties and knifes are cooking tools, guns are killing tools.

"People will find a way to kill other people no matter what you do. Unfortunate, but sadly that is how people are." So you want people to continuing to have access to killing tools, war weapons. No logic in you argument. By Fbi statistics, you are more likely to hurt yourself by owning a gun than to ever use one for self defense(I would know I grow up around guns). If we want to stop gun violence the answer isn't guns.

[AnubisG]

@Atticus,

The answer is strict control, not a ban. In Hungary, where I'm from, we can have guns. How many mass shootings do you hear that happens in Hungary? ZERO. Why? Because of very strict control of guns and educated gun owners. Yet, people still have the option to own guns and protect themselves from others who may want to do them harm.

Also, I forgot to say this but you know what the Nazis did when they got in power? They outlawed guns and disarmed the public. There is a video of an old Austrian lady who tells the tale how they did it. Guns hanve been in publics hand for a very long time. There is a sickness in the USA where people go on mass shootings for some reason. But that is the fault of very lose laws and laws that are different fron state to state. There should be one universal law for every state that is extremely strict and keeps guns out of the hands of mentally instable people.

[shinoff2183]

I'm guessing a person wielding a knife can't kill as many people as one with a gun. I think that's just a dumb argument. The fact is the countries banned guns and haven't had mass shootings that's something I can get behind. Problem being the nra and gun manufacturers have shoved so many guns down our throats, where do we start. Buyback programs that probably would help alot but it would take quite some time.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I mean yes, but those knife attacks only confirm that the gun reform worked if they had to even result to such tactics

So my question is why on Earth would you make it easier for these killers to get a hold of more efficient weaponry?

I would argue the United States of America is only reminding those other countries the bullet they dodged when they passed those reforms (no pun intended)

I mean seriously do you really think those other countries want to be talkin about a mass shooting every damn week? I got to tell you the people in the United Kingdom are not sending their kids to school in bulletproof vest or talking about giving their teachers guns or putting metal detectors in their schools etc that's crap that they don't have to think about or worry about...

And you also consider that a ban on specific gun types is still an actual gun law so your statement doesn't even make any sense because we could still pass a law that bans those specific gun classes like you saw in other countries.

Trust me I'm not going to be losing a wink of sleep if some of those weapons are banned out of my country. I don't have any use for an AR-15 and I don't believe any citizen in my country should be owning something like that.

Keep in mind I don't even know why you think it's an either-or we could Implement everything you just talked about while still actually Banning those specific gun types because at the end of the day you could do all the psychological test you want on an individual but they technically didn't even break the law until they begin killing a crap load of people ,so I would rather not have that gun exist at all in the US.

[AnubisG]

It appears that you guys don't understand what I'm saying or just don't want to understand what I'm saying. Maybe it's my English.....I don't know.

What part of STRICT is giving you guys truble? Do I need to write a whole set of gun laws for you so you get the point?

No, gun ban is NOT the answer. Again, my country is proof that you can have guns and not have mass shootings. The gun laws are the problem. Especially in the USA where you can buy an M16 without any issues. Who needs a damn M16? No one. But a handgun that holds 9 rounds or a shotgun should be allowed as long as the person is in stable mental health and is used for either hunting or self protection at home.

Right, you can't kill 80 people with a knife, that is true. But you can still cause a lot of damage with a knife in a huge crowd. Also, if there are no guns, people look for other means to murder on mass if that is how insane they are. Homemade bombs, driving trucks into crowds...the options are endless. People are creative and if they want to mass murder, they will find ways. Just look at ohh so safe UK where terrorist attacks happen constantly. Look at what the Irish terrorists did or what the Muslim terrorists did recently. Not just in the UK but all over western Europe. When they could not use guns anymore, they used trucks to drive into crowds. So now what? Now we will ban trucks too? No, that is not the answer.

I agree that certain types of guns should not be sold to the public, like automatic rifles like the AK and M16 and such. But a handgun for home peotection or something for hunting... come on guys.

Again; search youtube for this old Austrian lady who explains who great it was when the Nazis took all their guns away. Maybe she will make you undersrand what I'm saying. And screw the NRA man. In the USA they are probably the biggest suppoerters of constant war. But that is no reason to be completely against guns.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed but just to correct you none of those Nations actually banned guns they actually simply limited the classes of guns ,but yes those actions of gun reforms in those countries have lowered the amount of mass shootings that countries have had.

[paintedgamer1984]

Lol if games cause this than all violent media (tv, movies, commercials, music) that are violent, cuss, have sexual themes, and do drugs should also be banned... Wouldnt want to give these millenials any bright ideas /s.

Orrr ya know, dont let your kids play games that arent appropriate for their age. Instead of little johnies mom and dad blaming video games how about the fact hes fncking 8 years old! 🙄

[TheColbertinator]

Well its not like massacres,school shootings,wars and terrorist bombings happened before Nintendo made Duck Hunt.

[Atticus_finch]

The NRA will fight with all their money that everything is done except assault rifle ban. And the Republicans will be their number 1 supporters.

[shinoff2183]

It's sad but it's very very true

[opinionated]

What a load of crap. The NRA isn’t powerful because it pays off politicians. It’s powerful because it has 5 plus million members and growing. Just regular voters, not politicians. Did you hear about the recent FL gun show having a record turnout? That’s because the gun control hysteria does nothing but sell more guns. Your talk creates more NRA members lol.

Look up how much the NRA has spent on campaigns and lobbying and then compare it to your run of the mill left wing junk organization. I dare you lol, its minuscule. Anyone who blames law or tragedies on an organization is a moron. And they are legion apparently.

[opinionated]

Check it out:
http://www.wtsp.com/mobile/...

“Record number of attendees despite gun control debate”

Even these morons don’t get it... it’s not despite of, it’s because of lmao.

[shinoff2183]

Then why aren't these mass shootings happening in other countries like they are here. The laws need changed period. No wa around it. Also arming teachers is the dumbest sh I've ever heard of. Not surprising on where it comes from

[opinionated]

@shinoff

Other countries don’t have 300 million guns or an armed populace. But they still have mass killings..... some countries have genocide and civil wars going on...

Law changed to what? If you want to repeal the second amendment then go ahead. Article 5 of the constitution shows you how to change it. Good luck lmao. It’s difficult on purpose, if we could easily throw away our rights then what good would they be?

Why is arming teachers a bad idea? Some teachers probably already have a concealed carry permit, they just can’t bring it on the school premises. It’s a gun free zone, ya know?

[Skuletor]

I inject 3 video games a day and I'm fine.

[zb1ftw777]

A drug?

Yes most definitely.

Causes tragedies with firearms?

No. Violent people cause that. They are simply born that way.

[TheOttomatic91]

*facepalm*

[reaperofsouls]

every single mass school shooter in American in recent times has been taking antidepressants drugs like Prozac , Ritalin etc...

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VIDEO GAMES AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH MIND ALTERING DRUG BEING MADE BY BIG PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES AND PRESCRIBED BY DOCTORS

https://www.naturalnews.com...

[JackBNimble]

Yet these people who obviously have some sort of mental illness are acquiring guns... go figure.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Basically

what I think is funny is this individuals making it sound like those drugs don't exist overseas somewhere else lol
Right when you throw in that anyone in this country is able to basically buy a gun with very little information, this is when it becomes a deadly problem. America has had a love affair of mass shootings before many of those drugs even came in existence

[shinoff2183]

While that probably plays a huge part of it. Saying they all have is simply not true

[No Way]

So is Pacman responsible for cannabalism? Should we ban Pacman cause Dahmer ate people?

[_-EDMIX-_]

😂😂😂

[shinoff2183]

Yea cause being bullied and easy access to guns never caused any problems. Just today I was in gamestop and seen a mom getting a call of duty game for a child(bad parenting) that looked my son's age. My son is 7. Wtf people.

[shinoff2183]

I also seen a Republican from Rhode Island or maybe Delaware wants to add a tax to mature rated video games. I hope that same tax applies to music movies, and certainly last but definitely not least guns themselves

[opinionated]

Don’t forget being the cause of gambling addictions and a sponsor of the white patriarchy!

[Deeeeznuuuts]

I am so sick of this, I have been playing very violent games since a very young age and if anything it has made me aware of the dangers of weapons and drugs, these people who decide to shoot up a place have problems, very serious problems that have always been in their DNA because I have never, ever! Felt the urge to shoot up a place or even harm anyone and I also know many other people who are the same, nothing to do with video games, period.

[Lokii]

Games are enjoyed all over the world. But the majority of these shootings only happen in America. I'm not seeing games as a problem here.

[psuedo]

It's not the games that are drugs. It's the drugs I use while playing the games that keeps me playing.

[CP_Company]

Yeah, games, like from Adam and Kaine ages? :)

[antikbaka]

and what a peaceful time was it before games! 'member 1939-45?

[SuperbVillain]

Looks like weve traveleved back in time on this one

[Raiden]

Look forget about blaming the gaming industry and start by fixing your dam gun law first, it easy to point blame on the gaming industry because congress and other political groups don't want to point the finger at the direct cause, we have age rating for a reason, parents shouldn't be buying games designed for adults, people shouldn't be allowed to have more than one gun per household, if you want a gun, you and your family need to undergo a psychological test to confirm that you are the right people to have one, also a CRB should be done, only hand guns should be sold, shops selling anything above a hand should be fined, yes it's your god given right to protect your home, but you don't need anything more than a hand gun, also people should take note that there are so very disturbed people out there, depression, bullying, loneliness all these things can cause many reacting, blaming video games is just a copout, you need to focus on the problem and billions of people young and old game and we are not going around killing people, parents should be paying more attention to there children, get to know your child and the friends they keep, get to know they parents too, everything starts at a foundation, fix your gun laws, if you want to have a gun, make harder and vet the people, politic are always looking to blame someone else apart from themselves.