Does New 360 Banjo Kazooie Deserve All The Hate?

Stephen Totilo:

"I saw or played 45 new games last week in San Francisco and Los Angeles. And if you asked me which one I heard the most negative things about, I wouldn't hesitate to reply:

'Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts.'

The vehicle-based platformer for the Xbox 360 from legendary development studio Rare was getting some of the worst response. People who played it were shaking their heads. Is it's first impression a deserved one?"

[chaosatom333]

it certainly has no love. I don't know about hate tho.

It's AIMED for kids more or less.

SO, for those xbox owners that have their hopes up for this game, then hope no more. It's a average game at best and I don't think it's going to improve much.

Edit: lol at comparing LittleBigPlanet. He couldn't admit how much Better and more FUN LittleBigPlanet is to this. He just said that "it's a safe bet."

[sonarus]

In general, gamers don't really like change. For a very highly anticipated PLATFORMING game to emerge as a 70% vehicle game it will leave a lot of people disappointed. In time people will come around to it but most people (myself included) would have preferred a good ol traditional platformer

[falviousuk]

WOW didnt realise that you could play the new banjo and LBP games yet. you must be special to have played these allready to have formed your opinions about the games.

Me ill wait till i get to actually play them before i decide on whether a game is good or not

[chaosatom333]

I have read the article. And based my opinion on that.

How is it that every knows gears will be good?
How is it that every knows that resistance will be good?

It's because they have read about what others have said about the game and known the developers' pedigree.

[jaja1434]

And a year ago all of the articles said how great Lair was going to be, yet look how that turned out...

Now saying LBP is going to be some huge failure, but...

[power of Green]

People would have complained on way or the other who cares. people take themself way too seriously.

Its funny how you know its an average game based from his opinion but dissagree that LBP is not some revolutionary product as he put it. You form an opinion from what he said about Banjo but wan't to throw what he said out the window from his hands on experiance with LBP. lol

Folks would have complained with the new direction and they would have also complained if they added nothing new just giving it a next-gen face lift.

I do understand why you were quik to write it off as *average* considering PS3 titles are being tagged as *average* left and right.

The dude should have not mentioned LBP anyways its nothing more than a Beefed up XBL Arcade tittle, does it have a point or story?.

This must be great news to PS3 fans, kind of a morale piece making you feel better about PS3 and its 2008 lineup lol.

[chaosatom333]

If not, then the answer is average.

I DIDN'T SAY THAT IT'S AVERAGE. I said that it could be average.

I agree with you POG that it could be a lot worse than average, but that's why I said "at best an average".

I also agree with you that he shouldn't have mentioned LBP with Banjo, I mean come on, it's LBP vs Banjo, they are not even in the same league.

[Tmac]

Here we go with Power of Green putting his spin on everything.

[fenderputty]

It's almost like you're trying to discredit everything you ever said and will say with one sentence.

[Ri0tSquad]

"The dude should have not mentioned LBP anyways its nothing more than a Beefed up XBL Arcade tittle, does it have a point or story?."

Lol, are you kidding me? Even the Mart thinks LBP looks good. Stop pretending LBP is anything comparable to any game on XBLA. You only make yourself look that much dumber and attached to Microsoft.

[Willio]

@ Power of Green

Metacritic has claimed xbox360 has more average games than PS3 just so you know according to EGM.

[power of Green]

Thats based on the ratio of the sizes of the two lineups lol. 360 has more hits and what I said can be used as an excuse as well.

WTF are you talking about anways are you 12?. Strange reply.

[LastDance]

why on earth is this game NOT on the wii? thats like holding a lollie pop infront of a kid and giving it to a adult who will just throw it away..

cop a load of that crap.

[faisdotal]

the truth.

[SCThor]

Probably the wii couldnt handle it.

[DanB91]

because microsoft bought rare. but rare was second party to nintendo.

[heyheyhey]

yes, why take a glorious platforming series and turn it into a Jak X-style flop?

[mikeslemonade]

I question what Microsoft is doing because they own rare($337 million to own them) and they gotta know in the back of there mind that they do need a platformer. I can't think of another platformer on the 360 besides Kameo.

[Homicide]

Microsoft is screwing up Rare.

[Rock Bottom]

Rare last AAA game was perfect dark on the N64, from there they went down hill and couldn't make another AAA game.

This might be their last chance to prove them selfs again as one of the best developers ever, the chances are slim though.

[LaChance]

BK on N64 were incredible.But I have to admit when I heard it was 80% vehicles I was VERY dissapointed.But there must be a good reason for them to do that.
They are the ones who know how to make a great game not us.

PLEASE rare make Banjo as good as on the n64.

I still dont understand why didnt they just make a next gen Banjo.Geez even a remake would make my day.
I still have faith in this game though

[Xlll]

Most of the people from the N64 days at Rare already left a long time ago. This is all BK is gonna get.

[Bacon]

It's a little too focused on vehicles this time around and as far as the platforming goes it's not really trying anything new.

[Condoleezza Rice]

80% Vehicles?Not to say that the game won't be good(seeing as I have yet to demo it),but for a traditional Platformer to place soo much emphasis on Vehicle gameplay&mechanics,well,le t's just say I'm not as interested nor hyped up for it as I was.

[Breakfast]

I agree. But, we have to wait...i guess.

[iamtehpwn]

is not the BK I grew up with. That's horrible. If it really is 80% vehicles, I will not pick this up

[permutated]

I'd have to agree. 40% vehicles is OK, but any more than that I wouldn't even consider it a platformer.

Sucks too, I was looking forward to this game until now.

[CViper]

Turns out to be something that isn't related to the older games at all. Its some Executives half-ass decision to add 80% vehicle play.

I'm sure this will be a fine title, but I'd be willing to be that no one would think twice about if if the name wasn't involved. The mechanics aren't that interesting from what we have seen so far. While thats not a bad thing, its really just "Ok.. so thats it?" Same thing with haze. All this anticipation for "...oh"

Maybe its a victim of hype.

[Michael Jackson]

80% vehicles. 20% playing with a c*ck as your buddy.

maybe it's the idea that 20% of the time, you'll be playing the game with a c*ck behind your back. no wonder it got that kind of reaction.

disagree if you enjoy having a c*ck behind your back.

[Ogrekiller]

a hen. Kazooie is FEMALE.
Actually, she's not even a chicken. Anyone know what a Red Crested Breegull is?

[steck67]

It looks like a c*ock to me.

[BIoodmask]

because it is an Xbox 30 exclusive and that is proper N4G protocal.

[Tmac]

LOL, Bloodmask. Peoples opinions obviously stretch further than just N4G if MTV is talking about.

[heyheyhey]

no

i wouldn't have a single bad word to say about BK if it weren't for the 80% vehicles announcement

open your eyes, sometimes us PS3 fans actually bash a game with good reason.... sometimes

[CViper]

Conspiracy.

Banjo = 80% Vehicles.

Thats not the banjo that we all played years ago. Its just the name tossed on some other game.

[Whoooop]

Says the former 360 (always writing BS in PS3 threads) troll, now disguised as an "objective submitter". lol

:)

[MK_Red]

"All That Hate"!? Seriously, while there has been some negative comments, most people are pretty happy about the game and there is certainly no huge hate. The vehicles thing is the only problem and even then not too many people "Hate" it.

[heyheyhey]

yeah not hate

but im definitely disappointed about the vehicles thing

no matter how hard they try, a true platformer (like BK was back in the day) will always be better than a kart racer (or whatever BK is now)

@Kigmal

no i haven't, that's why i said that now matter how hard Rare try they can't make Banjo as good with with a vehicle focus than if it was a pure platformer with just a few vehicle sections

i said it because that's just the way things work and have always worked

Jak X wasn't nearly as good as Jak 3

Crash Nitro Kart wasn't nearly as good as Crash Bandicoot

need i go on?

EDIT: yes your right

still doesn't detract from the fact that a running around, jumping and whatnot platformer will always work better than a fly around in some car and shoot Mario statues

my point is that BK3 can't match the greatness of the first two games this way

do you smell me now?

[Bnet343]

You don't know that. You have not played this game. Stop it.

EDIT @ heyheyhey

THOSE GAMES WERE ACTUAL RACING GAMES. DUHHHH!! That's not what Banjo Nuts and Bolts is going to be.

EDIT 2: And my point is you do not know that. It's not certain at all. I don't care what you say. Even if you think BK1 and 2 were that good, BK3 can still beat it or maybe not even come close.

[MK_Red]

I have to agree. Nothing beats a true platformer. Still, I don't think BK3 is going for kart racing with those cars. The footage shown suggested some freedom and sanboxing combined with car creation freedom.

[bootsielon]

I'm willing to give it a shot.

Edit:

Who the hell disagreed. Am I not willing to give it a shot? FINE. I always loved Banjo Kazooie, and this is a new gameplay element for a platformer. I admittedly like my PS3 more than my 360 but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy 360 games.

"because it is an Xbox 30 exclusive and that is proper N4G protocal."

I agree, Xbox 30 ;) just joking

[Bnet343]

0_0

EDIT: Ok why I got a disagree? You disagree with a face? lol whatever

[ScottEFresh]

Game is for 10 year olds.

[Shaka2K6]

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[mikeslemonade]

Pay back for the Ratchet and Clank kids comments.

[Pain]

it dose so there..... how can i say that ?? i owned BK 64 and it blows.....

[Bnet343]

I'm not going to judge this game until I play it. Rare is trying to evolve the platforming genre, not stay to the same formula that has been around since Super Mario 64.

[heyheyhey]

no... look around

360 fans don't like the idea too

[sretlaw]

I got a PS3 and I'm jealous...game looks sick. But I still prefer the PS3.

[Bacon]

God I hate it when people say "that game looks sick" especially when talking about the Banjo-like genre. The game looks kiddie and for 8 year olds, not sick.

[sretlaw]

Whatever dude. The game looks sick. I never knew that "sick" was reserved for only Xbox EXTREME titles. Go play Halo you noob.

[IzKyD1331]

i can tell that this guy is a PS3 hater since he criticized LBP for retarded reasons

[Bacon]

Anybody that criticizes LittleBigPlanet deserves to die. There has never been a game like that on consoles. Rare are just developing another outdated platformer experience.

[nightmare452]

You are right, their HASN'T been a game like that because it hasn't come out yet !!!!
Unless you are playing LittleBigPlanet right now, you can't say someones OPINION about a game is wrong.

What if LittleBigPlanet does have some error here and there and isnt that great... thats why developers work on it and ask opinions and take there time. I bet if the released LittleBigPlanet now, it would probably suck cause it might have flaws.

Any way, the new Banjo most definitely will have critics, every game does!! (and no, the aren't fanboys!) They are, as the word says, CRITICS! Never say "no one can criticize LittleBigPlanet" I can if a want to! cause its my right (I love LittleBigPlanet by the way).

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Because the original was a platformer that anyone could enjoy

This one looks like its targeted at the Viva Pinata crowd

Did you hear those sound effects? Sounds like one of those children's shows that trys too hard to appeal to children.

LBP looks like it will have more playability value among adults. With LBP your imagination is you're only limit. A game built around creating your own levels seems pretty interesting to me.

[predator]

so CVG, eurogamer and iGN oh and videogamer.com all like it and said its a step in the right direction everyone hates it? you gota be kidding me

[Fishy Fingers]

Dude, just because they like it doesn't mean that I have to.

Still, funny how the people doing the complaining are the people who havent played the game. Always seems to be the way.

[Ali_The_Brit]

it wouldnt be fair to critisise this game, (because us droids arnt like u xbots) but it is fair to say LBP will blow this meadiocre game out the water

[Snukadaman]

Look at the first comment and the last one and tell me again how you droids dont criticize a game that the general public has never played....face it..both camps are ridiculous sometimes its not even funny.

[n to the b]

don't be silly both sides have their crazies on the great n4g.com!

[mikeslemonade]

We have to play it to know it's rated E for Everyone and to know it is using comical characters? And also we know what world and what it is about based on the previous Banjos.

[Ludwig]

Well, I can certainly see how gamers fail to understand this is not a KART game .. or a racing game .. it's a plataform vehicle game.

Once you play it .. you will see.. (I had my own personal experience with the genre in a japanese indy game called RigidChips, simply awesome.. and not as strong in platforming as this one will be.)

[Bladestar]

Deserved? No... predictable? yes... lots of xbox 360 haters out there.... and this game is an xbox 360 game... what xbox 360 exclusive game does not get hate simply for not being on the other camp's console?

[JackBauerIsHIGH]

This has nothing to do with hating on the 360. If this game were the same type of adventure platforming game we've known from the past but improved throughout there'd be no hating on it I would bet.

Instead, they made this game seem like a total change with 80% vehicle-based gaming. I'm fairly interested in seeing how the game actually plays but I am far from excited from this news on the changes.

[heyheyhey]

oh here we go again

see this is what i was trying to tell you in the Balmer article

im actually trying to give constructive criticism here believe it or not

i always do, i don't just a bash a game because its on the 360

ever see me bash NG2, or Fable 2, GeOW2 or Too Human?

no, because those are going in the right direction and should be great games

BK3 however- is not

[bootsielon]

If anything it's the other way around, people love "underdogs" (despite the fact that Microsoft has monopolies elsewhere) and newcomers, that's why Halo and Gears got 10s like they fall from the sky.

[Bladestar]

"Halo and Gears got 10s like they fall from the sky" are you saying Halo and Gears are not hated on this site? Halo is problably the most flamed game in history... Let's stop pretending that you people are trying to give constructive critisism of a game that's yet to be played by anybody... The first image released about this game and the hate started... just like there is already hate about Gears 2... and Too Human... and pretty much any xbox 360 game... sadly for you haters... this game will probably be a AAA title.. why? Rare baby... and Viva Pinata was an example... hated to the grown by the anti xbox 360 people.. yet it was a good game...

[JackBauerIsHIGH]

Honestly, I agree that Halo and Gears are two of the most hated games on this site. That's because of some serious fanboys on this site who cannot look past their particular console and appreciate what the other console is achieving. I play my PS3 more than 360 BUT I will be the first to pick up a controller to play some Halo or GeOW because those games are FUN.

I'd say that the reason this game is not getting the praise right now is because from the gameplay and screenshots there was nothing there that was exciting. It was too different from any other B-K game that came out previously. People were expecting another adventure platformer in the vein of previous titles, but we get something about building vehicles to progress through the game. Intriguing, yes, but not what we expected.

What I think is that this should not be considered an AAA title in any way, shape or form because we haven't played it yet. Especially on the fact alone it's coming from Rare. Just because this game is made by Rare does not guarantee a damn thing. That goes for any dev; no one is golden every time around. On the flip side, no one should be condemming this game because, again, we haven't played it. Let's just wait and see when it releases if it hasn't changed so much that we cannot enjoy it.

As far as graphics are concerned, why does it really matter? Games are games for a reason, because they are fun to play! No matter how good the game looks, if it is not fun to play through it will not be considered a good game. That's why Halo and Gears are good, because they are fun to play. Uncharted, fun to play. GTA fun to play. Sure, some people will disagree. But that's why there is such a wide variety of games to choose from. Pick the flavor you like and roll with it. Bashing someone for their opinion is rather childish.

I don't understand why everyone on this site must make it a console war about EVERYTHING. Personally, that is why I bought both a 360 and a PS3 because I want the best of both worlds and to play any game (exclusive) that I wanted. I did have a Wii, but I wasn't using it as much as I thought and I gave it to my sister. However, that doesn't make me hate the Wii. It just makes me happy because it gets more people into games that normally wouldn't play any at all. Which in turn makes the gaming industry more powerful.

[Clinton514]

So this "reaction" is news to me. Personally, I couldn't care...while I was impressed with the initial screenshots, it's still by no means a must have title for me.

[Nytr8]

Im impressed that Rare actually have the Cahoones to try something abit leftfield in this gaming world full of safe bets.

They did the same with Viva Pinata, which I for 1 enjoyed, and now they at it again with Banjo.

I guess with Microsofts wallet behind them its allowed them to take greater risks. Bring it on I say...

Yeah, not all ideas will work but at least their trying. Guess we wait to see if its a worthy contender for our cash.

LittleBigPlanet was a good game to mention. That is another game completely unique & seeped in charm, I really cant wait to get my hand on.
With all the games coming out this year either way its gonna be great, something for everyone.

[poopface1]

I just dont care. I remember playing the original banjo on my n64. It couldent hold my attention even when I was like 11, its probally not going to now. Im sure some people might really enjoy it tho, there seem to be some little kids on live who might like to play it.

Who knows it may be great and in that case I may rent it(most likley not). If it isnt great then it will just be like the old banjo to me.

[Nytr8]

Hehe, im sure it will actually be...
the kids playing GOW2 and the adults will be playing Banjo, lol.

[Homicide]

If this game ends up terrible, then SCREW YOU MICROSOFT! YOU BETTER NOT SCREW UP ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLATFORMERS!

[Shaka2K6]

Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

[Bon Scott]

I know that the open zone usually escapes any real logic or reason,
but wouldn't RARE be the one to blame for screwing up your game,
and not MS?

HMMMMMM

[Homicide]

Well Microsoft bought off Rare, and after that, they haven't made any AAA games. If they sticked with Nintendo, Viva Pinata could've been an AAAA title.

[jerkstore]

What a joke of a game this is. I think I played this at my local McDonalds on the Coleco Vision they had hooked up to their TV sets.

What was I doing in the playground area you ask? Well I had to watch over all the Xbots to make sure they don't pee on the slide and soil their pants.

DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Rr! Fuk you douchebags!

[DoomHammer]

just pissed on the slide, all those f'ing pixelated graphics must be damaging your eyes.

[jerkstore]

Is that the best you XBots can do? Hahahahaha!

No wonder our public school systems are failing - it's fukfaces like you and POG and InYourMom who are holding back this great country. Eat a fat chode and croak champ.

DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

[etownone]

as a 360 owner and a big fan of nintendo back in the day, i'm VERY disappointed.

I bought a wii just to play 3 of my fav franchises because I always know they are going to be good: Mario, Zelda, and Metroid.
Buying BAnjo for the 360 was a day one purchase because I played the first two and loved them when i was a kid, but not now.

why try to fix something that wasn't broken?!

kinda reminds me of all the 007 games that came out after Goldeneye....one disappointment after the next.

[i Shank u]

this trailer looks fun http://www.gametrailers.com...

[Obama]

The difference between Banjo and LBP is that Banjo has a retarded feel and look to it. It's hard to describe unless you compare the gameplay videos between the two side by side.

[Cool_Mint]

This game looks so stupid, i really wish microsoft forgets about all this casual bull crap and start making some real games for the hardcore. This is all do to nintendo, god i hate them.

[Captain Tuttle]

There are very few games that I care less about than Banjo

[wangdiddy82]

just go pick up ratchet and clank.. ratchet poops all over this crap... Poop poop doo doo..

These types of games are for hardcore gamers too if they are made right.. I mean look at little big planet and all the great attention that game is getting.. Ratchet is another good example.. That game is for everyone. Now banjo looks like another viva pinta or whatever it was called.. Just a game for little kids.. Not too many little kids play on the ps3 or 360.. and if they do there killing people on cod4 and halo 3.. lol i know this because i play with those little snot rags with bad language all the time in cod4.. Banjo is a game that belongs on the wii from the looks of it so far..

[Aclay]

I'm a PS3 gamer all the way, but I really don't see why Banjoe Kazooie is getting so much hate. The only thing that I'm not so sure about is the majority of the game being in vechicles because that's not how the Original series was intially built, but that's about it because a Platformer is usually a game that is done on foot with occasional vechicles for alternate transportation.

And I have to disagree with people when they say that Banjoe is targeted towards the younger audience because it's a game that anyone can play and enjoy.... I just think that a lot of people feel that if a game isn't rated M or if it doesn't have intense violence, they wont buy it. And I'm not sure that Banjoe 3 is a game that is targeted towards 360 gamers though. I think that Banjoe 3 would have done better if it was released on the Wii or PS3 because Sony already has the successful Jak and Daxter and Rachet and Clank platforming games, and I think that it should be on the Wii because Banjoe was originally released on the N64 and Nintendo has had numerous of successful platformers.

But I really think that Banjoe 3 is a game that the Xbox 360 needs to bring in more casual gamers to the console and to diversify the Xbox 360's audience. Placing Banjoe 3 on the 360 is somewhat of a gamble to me, but who knows, maybe it will pay off.

[IzKyD1331]

ratchet and clank tools of destruction will still be better even when this comes out

[The gaming GOD]

But to be honest, people need to give the game a chance.

I'm going to say the SAME EXACT thing I said about Lair. Give the game a shot before you write it off.

I'm a well known ps3 fan over 360. But listen, sometimes games NEED to be changed. I mean come on, do you ALWAYS want the same old thing?

Experimenting sometimes turns out bad yes. But it is NECESSARY for the industry to grow. So at least try the game out.

We too easily have our opinions swayed based off what others say. Stop being sheep and have an opinion of your own. Try it for yourself. THEN judge.

[wAtdaFck]

It seems like nowadays, people are judging an entire $60 game on a 1GB demo, and thats probably where all the hate is being generated from.

To me, its just ridiculous, and I agree with you. Same thing with HAZE. Play the game first, and judge it from that. Not the demo.

[clintos59]

Reason why is because instead of just bringing us a banjo game with some next gen platforming levels to just have tons of fun with, MS was quick to react and try an change the game by adding this 80% of the game will be based on creating vehicles and using them. That was a mistake, reason I say that is because fans of the old banjo games loved the platforming in banjo and to find out 80% of this banjo games is going to be based on vehicles, truelly is a bad thing.

For example it would be like lets take mgs4 for example, instead of just sticking to what mgs fans are use to playing, Sony came up with an idea of changing the game up and adding 80% of mgs4 will be focused on vehicle creativity instead of just sticking with the stealth action game we want people to focus more on building vehicles which could help snake take out the badguys head on instead of letting him use stealth which is what the game is based on.

See where im pointing out? I mean fans of the old banjo dont care about this type of stuff, it would have been better if MS just let rare stick to the normal platforming game it is and just add the vehicles as an extra feature to help u out on certain elements which a vehicle can help u out then, but nooooooooooooooo MS had to butt in and try an be experts and change the whole game from what it originally was known for into something they thought would work. The game still has potential to be a good game but I think alot of the die hard banjo fans who have come to love banjo from what it use to be, will be dissappointed like the people in this article were.

[Nytr8]

temporary side step for Banjo. Heres hoping that RARE do indeed make a dedicated platformer soon.
At the moment they do seem to be microsofts mad science division.

I pray they bring back Conker, the furry faced foul mouthed squirrel.
A sequel to Kameo maybe?

[fenderputty]

is more of a move to counter LBP's ingenuity? It's like RARE and MS said, "oooo crap ... we've got nothing like LBP. We've got nothing that gives the user creativity and freedom. Let's make BK3 with customizable vehicles. That will work."

Honestly though ... I don't see what all the hate is about. The game looks good and, if the vehicle implementation is good, then the game might be taking a giant stride in a good direction. Just because people don't like change doesn't mean the game won't be good. I think the idea of creating vehicles to fit the style of play you want to use for said level is rather interesting. Give it a chance people.

[LuigiLogik]

If Rare puts the same amount of polish on this game as they've done on all their other games then it's gonna kick a whole lot of ass.

It's the kind of game i've always wanted, can't wait to build a pimped out Voltron. I just hope they have level editor as well.

[andron]

And even if a game looks like a kids game it can be fun. Ratchet and Clank and Super Mario are good examples.

I think it's great kids get some real games and not just sub par licensed games.

[Xbox is the BEST]

trolls!

[G4drake]

well..... yes from me

[Vino]

I don't see why people are hating on this, give the game a chance, one thing that's wrong with people on this site is that if a game doesn't end up on their console they hate on it, see people doing that with this game and LBP.

[JokerSGS]

Yes in a way because Rare has gone down hill and a beloved Nintendo franchise on another console like the 360 kind of hurts for those who have played and enjoyed the previous two. On top of that this game will be marketed wrong because MS is not the most knowledgeable with selling platformers and games that are not necessarily edgy or excessively violent. And they couldn't even help sell Conker. And by looking at Conker and Perfect Dark and even Viva Pinata which isn't as good as people try to say it is, but it is truly original, I have no faith that this title will be great.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

and its no better than crash bandicoot & sounds alot like a expansion to racket & clank tools of destruction only banjo sounds way more fruity!

[ilkercruiser]

Anyone wants a Banjo game with 80 percent vehicles.
Never mind graphics for now, Viva Pinata looked so ugly but gfx were improved and frame rate problems gone.

[InMyOpinion]

"I had an assortment of struts, wings, weapons and other parts with which to work. MOST OF THE ITEMS WERE UNLOCKED, which made construction overwhelming."

He has to take into consideration that you don't start out that way, and probably learn progressively how to use all the parts.

[xboxftw]

I hope the vehicles have realistic physics and damage modelling otherwise it'll be just another GT5P.

[Citizen Cook]

All the TALENT left RARE years ago...
They only make sh!t now... PDZ, VP, Kameo...

They don't understand what makes a good platformer - SIMPLCITY!

Say it with me please - 'SIMPLICITY!

HA HA HA HA!

[Hoggy1983]

People are jumping on the Edge preview of Ninja Gaiden 2 and going on about how its camera system will ruin the game. The same people have failed to notice that Edge has also given BK a glowing reception stating its going to be a great game. Yet people are ignoring this? Id love to comment but i havent played the final version of the game but oh wait, neither has anyone here.

[immarriedtoafatchick]

rofl if you want a reallll grade A platformer that has 10x the graphics of this pos and much more fun game play you get rachet and clank tools of destruction its a sweet game =)

[THE_JUDGE]

Legendarily bad is more like it.

[moujahed]

There's a new Banjo Kazooie??? Who would care about Banjo Kazooie, when theres so many others games better than that?

[BrianC6234]

I'd say anything Rare does now deserves hate. At least until they can prove they can make good games again. Microsoft sure wasted money when they bought those guys.

[jackdoe]

Interesting article. And I agree, level design can seriously be broken when you add to many variables to the mix.

[wow4u]

People want last gen platformer games, but they arent going to work this gen.

If you want a run-and-jump-platformer, they are PSN/WiiWare/XBLA scale game now.

I'm *out of my mind* excited for this game - Rare's build something new and unique; I think the author fails to recognize that their will by mulitplayer exchange of vehicles.

The best vehicles will "rise to the top" and the best builders are going to concentrate on doing that.

[RayRay36]

i got a ps3 n i want this game sooooooooooooooooooooo bad. i grew up with this game. to me this is the 360's LBP