Industry insider "thuway" clarified that there won't be any closing of the gap with the rumored 10% Xbox One performance upgrade, as both machines will continuously receive driver updates.
Since the dawn of privatised information, there have been a few select, privileged members of the outside world whom are permitted glimpses and whispers of unfinished products within a much larger company. Or in the video game industry's case, not so few. These people are known as 'insiders'. And they need to get out.
The recent cases of IGN's "The Last Guardian" debacle and insider Thuway's E3 dethroning, it's apparent now more than ever that insiders do more harm than good to the gaming industry.
Good article and I'm inclined to agree with most of the points. One thing I will say is MS E3 conference was criticised for a lack of surprises...well that's because it pretty much all got leaked before hand by insiders. Also, that recent bitch slap that Thuway got from Naughty Dog pretty much confirms he/his "sources" are incredibly unreliable and he should not be listened to. It does need to stop but I've said it before, Gamers are so hungry for information on their favourite/latest games it kind of breeds this need for insiders. Whether they are right or wrong.
I know exactly what you mean, we went in knowing a surprising amount about the games that they showed, and that was actually quite annoying
Microsoft and Sony probably change their line ups because of the leaks just maybe they have more than what they are showing
Yeah. God of War IV was heavily rumoured to be revealed yet we saw nothing. Maybe Gamescom? We already know that's where Microsoft is going to show off Quantum Break. SO EXICTED for that game! Loved Alan Wake.
Hey everyone, I heard a rumor for next years E3. Sony is going to demo the new Uncharted game, Microsoft is going to show off Halo 5, and Nintendo will show more on Zelda.
Wow, look at me. I know everything.
People are too obsessed with being " The First" to announce something, as if it makes them cool or something.
As if everyone in the world will give them things and like them more if they just tell us....it's pathetic
It is clickbait. Which is why 9 times out of 10 the "insider" is a bad source of information as anything these days tends to get posted with little effort being made to validate the source.
Should they go though? No (it is still news and we are not children; we don't need to be surprised just impressed with what they show which can be done through leaks) but the websites should bother to check the validity of their sources. At the end of the day your own credibility is at stake (look at IGN, they made a huge blunder).
You hold small meeting groups and tell each group different information. You don't tell coders what game they are working on or name the game something different to throw them off. There are a lot of ways to either weed the leakers out or give out false info.
We stop clicking every single article about what an insider said.
It sells -- it creates a huge fuss. The appeal to leak, and the appeal for websites to post the leak (no matter how credible) is high. The masses forgive too easily and continue to click, click, take that clickbait.
You see "insider" in a headline? Just don't click it. Take away the incentive.
They're wrong a lot but it never gets posted. Literally Thuway, Tidux, and especially that idiot Mistermediax were wrong about 70 percent of the time on their E3 predictions. The problem I have is when people quote these guys when all they make is educated guesses mixed in with a lot of wrong predictions and a lot of obvious predictions.
The number one way to tell these guys are full of shit is that they claim to know WAYYYY too much about Sony and MS. There's no way these guys know what games look like on the dev side and there's no way they know the games development. There's no way they know the insides and outs of the " secret sauces" these companies have. That's why the only guy that seems like a real insider to me that has a source or sources is Shinobi. That guy doesn't claim to know anything other than what he knows and even he is wrong about a lot of shit.
Well, love them or hate them, so-called insiders keep things interesting. That's more than I can say for a lot of these folks masquerading as journalists.
BS.
No it hasn't happened like that since the dawn of time.
A generation ago and before we actually had journalists, and competition among media.
The free flow of information is much better then the NSA way.
Some people get stuff wrong, some people are lied to, some people are just liars, but then there's the legitimate.
You can't get the legitimate without occasionally encountering all the others and guess what I can handle occasionally getting all the others, just don't take away the occasional legitimate.
Like Edward Snowden.
Because yes, information is information, and while gaming information is not important, however here in America, and around much of the world is so far away from the Snowden model, that yes, we need to stand up for disclosures everywhere, and maybe just maybe, if we set the standard that we want to know everything, we might actually change something.
Cracking down on leakers, feels like the NSA wins. That's our society, and we the people, are sick of it.
Blame Obama. Blame Bush. Blame republicans. Blame Democrats. Blame Queen Elizabeth. Blame Wall Street. But don't blame the people trying to expose something.
We need exposure, more then we need accuracy, and besides, the idiots reading gov't written teleprompters on Fox news/CNN/MSNBC and probably the BBC get their lies wrong just as often as these leakers. At least these leakers are providing news.
.................. WTF are they trying to expose? A secret game? People just get a rush out of the internet going crazy over their name linked to information. He gave me this info. She is a great insider.
Let us be surprised by what the publishers, manufacturers, devs have to show. Let them do it their way. Stop trying to be the "snitch" when it comes to video games.
Now, all that other stuff you rambled on about, yes. Let us know we're being spied on but 80% of the population doesn't care or think it's ok because they have nothing to hide. They don't understand the ramifications of that attitude.
Usually when an insider article or topic pops up, it's up to the user whether to click on them to find out the contents.
It doesn't help when sites that report on those insiders put the contents in the headline.
It's down to us as much as it's down to them, whether we spoil announcements for ourselves.
It's also strange that after the recent misinformation from a few insiders, that people are painting all insiders with the same brush.
The community seems to have forgotten about how MS were exposed, thanks to insiders.
Of course shortly afterwards, insiders have been criticised & shooed out of the community.
Pretty convenient, eh?
I like this article! everything is true. These insiders (with sarcasm) is doing nothing
but harm to the industry! from col rodgers leaving evolution studios, to spilling everything out about microsoft's e3 conference, and many more!
yes they need to stop.
Thuway explains that Sony isn't just laying off people randomly, but there is a larger plan to restructure for efficiency.
Here we go, endless barrages of the the famous "insiders" all making educated guesses hoping their info sticks .....
while what you stated is correct its not a fact, but on the same token think about this, Its not the big chunk of the loss, as a matter of fact the Playstation section is a LLC, its not for Public IPO, so its runs really outside the rest of Sony. Its already by default "spun off" you just cannot buy Stock because Sony owns all of its playstation stock So no Public IPO offering. example: just recently Sony expects to loose 1.1 billion for the year's results but look at this
Expects $1.1 bln net loss this year, core operations weak
* Plans separate unit for TV business, sells PCs division
* 5,000 job cuts to help lower costs by nearly $1 bln/year
TOKYO, Feb 6 (Reuters) - Sony Corp Chief Executive Offer Kazuo Hirai is seeking to cure a TV business that has lost $7.8 billion over a decade by isolating it to speed up decisions on future strategy.
http://www.reuters.com/arti...
By doing this Sony is saving about 1 billion a year!
But also, they are cutting off those parts that are netting such huge Loss for them, So taking the Hit now, but Offset those Loss reductions to Later for Good, I think Kaz and the Board will take that, to stop such huge Loss. I mean in 10 years accumulated time Sony's TV section lost over 8 Billion!
But yet, that also shows How Japan differ's than the west in How the Exchange of Stock market differ's than the west,many such billionaires from the west get or have been frustrated in the fact they cannot get anywhere in changing japans culture against Hostile Take over's.
Its the Bitter Pill vs the Perception of West Hedge fund's as "Vultures" and corporate raiding that the west does vs in Japan its viewed with Disdain.
Thats why Sony's board and Kaz voted
"Sony's board of directors has unanimously concluded that continuing to own 100 percent of our entertainment business is the best path forward and is integral to Sony's strategy," Sony CEO Kazuo Hirai said in a letter to Loeb, which was released by the company.
http://us.mobile.reuters.co...
Think about that Sony in about 10 years time and they lost over 8 billion from the TV section and then the near 3 billion Loss from the PS3's 5 years on the marke Loss from the Playstation 3 and than PC, and yet they still Told Loeb who owns 7% of Sony itself NO!
I think many just does not seem to get that between how the market is in Japan and how the markets perform in the west. for one would you see a US company loose 8 billion in 10 years in the US not get swallowed up if they have such massive debt? even with this debt, Sony's Trim of Fat but yet turns right around and re-invest shows despite many that think they know whats going on really fail to grasp that japan's market is not like the west!
Yeah, those doom and gloom articles and comments hold almost as much weight as these insider articles right?
@above Who said anything about doom and gloom? I am simply saying these guys have no clue what they are talking about and are just saying what seems to fit. Who knows why or what happened. All we know for sure is, it sucks.
Nicksetzer1
Is one of the biggest Xbone fanBoys on this website and is a stealth pro troll.
That God Sony is restructuring and quality controlling. Santa Monica studio Wasted 100 million . That is unexcusable many people need to be fired . Management is the issue . Management people should be fired for letting the project that was not progressing Go on so long. Every one involved with the Santa Monica project in management should be fired. Sony is cutting the fat at it game studios. The Lost of 100 million has open Sony Eyes. Now Sony are investigating All there First party studios . I hope Sony Is holding their studios to high standards it better for us gamers. Sony should fire all Developers who can't do the job.
Some people are praying for Sony down fall. The PS4 is one of best preforming products For Sony. Sony has been in business for 70 years. Sony knows it takes investment to make profits.
Only thing certain is this. Sony is hiring game devs as shown on their website.
They just added position to hire devs. So they are hiring some to hire game devs.
Does not seem like downsizing.
If they were doing it for efficiency then why haven't they sacked thuway or famousmortimor yet considering they clearly spend most of their days posting crap on neogaf rather than doing whatever work they're supposed to be doing.
This isn't an educated guess, this is stating the incredibly obvious.
I am not sure I have ever seen a company restructuring with layoffs that wasn't done in the name of efficiency.
Im not sure why people feel that this isnt the case... Every Year Every major industry go through reordering of their structure, Its not just Sony, But Apple, MS, Google, HTC and Many big companys go through this...
You dont trim fat to run more poorly!
They'll hire again and spread and they'll trim as needed to make sure they arent bleeding money! Doesnt take an Insider to tell the obvious!
In other news, the grass is green, the sky is blue, and winter in New York is cold. Fanboys are mean, and facts are true and another Iphone from the apple store was just sold. -_-
It had to be done, this is for sure. For now, I trust their judgment...Though I expect many announcements between E3 and Gamescom.
I understand if this happened during the ps3 era but now especially with how the ps4 is performing. E3 this year is going to be very interesting ;)
Uggghhhh. Thuway.....he will never STFU as long as websites keep giving him the publicity he so craves.
Isn't this the same guy that NeoGaf and others booted for multiple inconsistencies?
I don't trust any insiders. I believe it when i see the company confirming it.
TitanFall to PS4?....probably. Just don't believe it until Sony, Respawn, or EA confirm it. The same can be said about Gears of War. "Insiders" said this was coming to the PS4 all the way up to the week that Microsoft bought the whole freakin' IP (and that deal most certainly took more than a week to pull off).
I don't trust any insiders. They have nothing to lose when they are wrong or get bad info. Thye like to flaunt their connections. Leeches.
I believe the news when i see the company confirming it.
Seems like current teams couldn't live up to Sony's standards..so they were let go.
lol @ Sony's standards. You do realize you are talking about individuals livelihoods right?
Anyways its a business. Its a new generation so expect some parts of their divisions to expand and other parts to contract.
Every company has a standard to keep and individuals who do not live up to that standard will be let go. Yes it is people's livelihoods but at the end of the day when you accept a job, when you decide to work for a company, you do so with the knowledge that you need to produce for that company. You need to live up to the expectations of which you were hired. If you do not, do not think you can under perform or cost the company money and there to be no repercussions.
With that being said, I do hope that every one who left or who was let go does find work elsewhere and they continue to contribute to the gaming community.
Yes I grasp the fact that you need to perform at your job to see well. Those who lost their jobs will hopefully find more success in new roles. David Jaffe left after god of war 1 and i was worried but Cory Barlog did an even better job with god of war 2. When he left stig still did a fantastic job with god of war 3. All 3 have now left sony at some point and 2/3 have returned to Sony in some capacity. I have full confidence sony studios is still in good hands.
However fuck you if you think it's ok to praise a company for severing jobs due to fanboy delusions.
@Above
I totally agree with your view on the subject, bubble up man.
Restructuring, job performance, call it what you want the fact remains when you fire someone your messing with their livelihood.
Lets not start cheering for Corporate decisions just yet!
"lol @ Sony's standards. You do realize you are talking about individuals livelihoods right? "
I don't get where ethics comes into this. Yes livelihoods are affected but this kind of stuff happens all the time. I'm not saying its ideal but it happens and if a company feels a division or people responsible for that division aren't delivering, they do and will and get rid of them.
Its just business.
You said it yourself, it's a business. In a business, it's perfectly normal to do such things.
never like to see people lose their jobs but....
Don't you think you're taking it a bit to far with trying to tie in their livelihood?
I can't tell if your intent is o make people feel bad.
Just to add again i hate people losing their jobs but Their specific livelihood to me is irrelevant.
Interesting. Hopefully their plan works out.
Sucks to be amongst those laid off. They probably thought they had a bit of security with the success of their system launch not 5 months ago...
I think they'll be fine. I'd assume having Sony as a previous employer on your resume would do wonders at interviews.
Unless your name is Stig Asmussen. Cannot believe the numbers been thrown around about his wasted budget. Absolutely insane.
this happens every year to every company i was layed off at gamestation and got in game even tho they are the same company and my best friends work in game. also was layed off a blockbuster one point in my life. it happens and something we have to deal with am afraid, sony are doing it for the better and looks like they have very good reasons. the games that was getting made are not what they want so they shut them down before money is wasted. its not sony fault people walk out too.
People forget sony are doing amazing in the gaming world also phones and tablets the xperia z1/2 are brilliant phones and like its waterproof and u can drop it same with tablet it can take a beating i wish the vita was the same as i would love it to be like xperia z. movies like this is the end and 22 jump street , spiderman are doing well also the music and other product apart from tv range are doing really good,sony has also bought that new building so why do they need other buildings, sorry people get laid off my point been is it happens every year if not day.
He may be right here, but in general thuway and all of these insiders are a joke. They typically throw a whole bunch of crap on the wall and see what sticks. I could do the same thing. My insider source says a new God of War game is coming. There you have it, I have become an insider, now let's wait and see if I'm right.
Good news and hopefully anyone who lost his job will find a new one.
I can't tell what's worse: the fact that the author was too utterly incompetent to notice a blatant spelling error in the title, or that enough people approved it without reporting it.
A typo mistake while submitting the story means that I'm "utterly incompetent" ? Really?
Get a life, dude.
I'm sorry if you don't agree, but I would consider a "journalist" who either doesn't bother to proofread his writing or is too dumb to realize the mistake in the first place is certainly incompetent. People often submit their poorly-written trash here in hopes of getting clicks, oblivious to the dozens of spelling errors and grammatical inconsistencies, and it amounts to a disrespect towards the potential audience and the subject matter in general. Having a glaring error in the damned title that five seconds of simple editing would have fixed treads the same line.
Now, I apologize if you just stumbled across this article and decided to submit it with no credit towards authoring it; that's no big deal. If you wrote it yourself, though? What sort of excuse can make up for it? It's a small but prominent error amongst an otherwise well-written article, and it stands out that much greater for it. Perhaps complete incompetence is hyperbole, but that's nicer than me calling you an imbecil or inept. I'll stick with plain old "lazy," and apologize for ranting as such.
So do MisterX and MisterCteam. But i guarantee you believe *every* word out of their mouths, right?. Even after MisterX got debunked by Penello.
Aren't those two the same persons delusional ramblings? MisterX doesn't know anyone in the industry, none at all, he's just making shit up. There are genuine insiders or leakers though. MisterX is the furthest away from being one.
Both those two are muppets who spout nonsense and know no one on the inside. The only believable insider at team Xbox was ntkrnl and he has been believed to be part of a planned and controlled leak.
Agreed, Thuway is a fake insider like MisterX and Cboat and Dodd and whomever. All they do is make guesses and hope for the best.
Here is just a small samples of Thuway's failed:
He claimed FFXV was locked down PS4 exclusive and SCE dev support to help it along. Nope
He also tweeted that Titanfall performance is not up to snuff at 720p on XB1. Nope
He even went as far to back up CBOAT claim and Dualshockers and Worldsfactory picked up this news and presented it like it was legit.
Ahsan Rasheed @thuway Tweet:
Today, CBOAT posted a thread claiming TitanFall would ship with 16 maps and the current textures in the alpha are final.
I heard the same information earlier this week, and before anyone thinks I am bluffing, I showed @tordavis when we had lunch.
I am aware Respawn is denying the rumors, but there is a whisper that is getting louder on the insider track about this info.
That in itself should disqualify N4G from using Thuway as a source of insider rumor as this cat isn't even in the gaming industry, he is just a med student or something.
Doom and Gloom....Sony and MS are doing fine...insider needs to get a real job.
If you actually read the article you'd understand that he was saying that they ARE fine, no "doom and gloom".
i see whats going on to the ppl who think something bad is going on listen up.. they are going through a transition stage right now they are taking the ps4 success has an example, and using what works from what don't and making a complete overall trust me..
they are up to something they are working on some big ideas notice has of late kaz, shoe no one is saying anything.. when they drop the bombs that their working on ppl are going to have a smile from ear to ear you just wait
Usually when things are going well, you add resources, not get rid of them. Projects with fewer resources take longer to complete - meaning longer development time and fewer games.
Sorry but I really feel like the big three are really suffering.
They are restructuring because projects were not working, and they were losing money. That is normal but it also isnt roses.
With all the cuts Sony's been making within their internal studios it's almost surprising Sony hasn't scrapped The Last Guardian after being in development limbo for ages and nothing new being shown since the initial reveal in 2009.
I reckon they've remained committed to the game because there's not a huge team working on it and the dev. budget probably isn't out of this world, and because Sony knows there's still a lot of interest in the title because of past games from Team Ico.
This is true but I think that The Last Guardian is a very important project to be deleted.
This is just horrible, there isn't any positive spin to be had when you take a step back to look at the big picture. Too many valuable people either jumping ship or being layed off here in such a short amount of time should throw up a red flag. Are they saying these people were just lazy hacks without value??? I think not.
People change jobs all the time but not with this frequency and numbers in such a short time frame. Obviously they are in a dire need to restructure, lets hope its not too late.
I feel for all the people leaving those jobs and wish them well.
Seriously wtf is going on though?? I just want some kind of official word from sony on all these departures
Well as long as Sony keeps pumping out high quality games, it doesnt really matter. Plus people come and go, thats just business nowadays.
Yeah true. Its just that some of my favorite people in the whole industry are leaving :/ really bums me out. Amy from naughty dog really got to me in particular
This...except that list of 100 should speak volumes...sony is cost cutting and games have took a hit
More spin to put a positive twist to it. Creative directors leaving on their own is not restructuring for the best, it is losing talent. Plain and simple.
At least Sony has great first party talent to begin with... Devs move around for pay.
Thank God for twitter and Neogaf....otherwise these sites would have nothing to write about. They could not come up with their own conclusion this is restructuring But they are somehow more legit because they are taking the word of the insider as some kind of factual statement as to why people are leaving. brilliant
If this is true, why doesn't Sony come out and state this? It can't be a coincidence that Sony forecasted a $1.1 billion loss and because of this fired employees from the Sony stores, PC and TV division but the Playstation division firings were due to efficiency... Come on, it's clearly due to Sony's horrible annual financial forecast results.
Exactly. Microsoft last summer "restructured for effiency" and they came out and told us. So, why not Sony?
Oh, well that makes it all better then....unless you're one of the hundreds that have lost their jobs.
Gamers need to stick to playing games and let the business men run their companies Sony isn't stupid there are shit load of developers out there and some who may have a fresh outlook and new innovation so it could be out with the old and in with the new or Devs wanting the freedom to work with whom ever they want to so either way it's all good!
I leave N4G for a couple of days and bedlam happens. lol
The restructuring does make sense from a business perspective. Sony has to plug where ever the money is leaking from. Not even Sony is immune to the economy.
Gateway MT6706 2008
Sony better blow us away with their E3 conference this year! This will assure fans that the PS4 and its games at least are not affected.
UNCHARTED 4
DRIVECLUB
THE ORDER 1886
new IPs from Guerilla, Cambridge, Santa Monica, Japan Studio...
...THE LAST GUARDIAN (lol)
This is the most responsible thing SONY could do for the Playstation brand.
Retaining senior talent isn't always in the best interests of video game development. You have to let people go and make room for fresh talent. Its good to see a lot of senior members parting ways with Naughty Dog and Santa Monica.
We as consumers can expect new experiences from franchises like Uncharted and God of War etc.
In other words.
SONY who prides themselves on having some of the most talented people in the industry suddenly realized that those people like being paid well for their efforts and successes and then SONY looked at their financials for the last year (a loss of over a billion dollars) and realized that talent wasn't that important.
Gotta feel sorry for all those workers who made some great games being tossed to the curb. Sony needs to fix its financial problems and layoffs are a quick fix.
not really look at vince zambella making millions now from his work (titanfall) when he used to work just as hard making the millions for activision instead while taking home the left overs not even any tips aka bonuses.
There are always challenges transitioning from a known platform to a new one. This always happens when there is a generational shift. How many devs from PS1 era disappeared making the change to PS2? From PS2 to PS3? This is normal, some devs can't adjust to the change and they don't survive.
Insider Ahsan Rasheed (AKA Thuway) confirms that two high profile studios such as Infinity Ward and Visual Concepts clearly prefer PS4 over Xbox One.
Ps4 is the best console in history so they'll prefer it to the inferior xbox one.
The ps4 is over 50% more powerful than xbox one so they're able to make their games perform better and look better
Hatsune
I'm so glad you're constantly on here continuing your unpaid PR campaign, so that I never have to hear you being a megaphone for nonsense on PSN. I agree that the PS4 is great, which is why I spend a good part of my free time playing it, rather than practicing fanboy rhetoric on N4G.
PSN ID: Wendel_T_Stamps
@otherZinc
lol weak argument, dude. Driveclub devs never stated that they had any problems with the PS4 at all. Where'd you pull that out of?
They're simply making their game better and more feature complete. The delay has nothing to do with PS4's hardware.
Gekko you a bigot or racist.......who decides to buy products based on country and not quality.....SMH sad consumers indeed
@Gekk..something stupid!
What about Chinese then? Do you refuse to buy that also? And German is good? Do let us know.
The thing I can't understand is why the Xbone graphics look so much worst than the PS4 if they use the same chip and amount of memory. I know the PS4 has faster memory but I didn't think we would be seeing this big of a difference. the MGS V GZ video Hideo put out was a big eye opener. The XBone is looking mor like Wii U Graphics which is a shame since it has so much more power than a Wii U. I just don't get it.
Sorry but those COD developers, who are a shadow of the previous outhouse that comprised the greatness that now is Respawn, are in no position to decide the fate of the Xbox.
They don't want to be labelled second best on the x box platform behind Titanfall. Its fairly obvious what there up to. They want to become the leading shooter on PS4 to match up against Titanfall.
They also hate the fact Vince Zapella is doing well with Titanfall. Activision and him fought a court case and by all accounts it was bitter feud.
respawn didnt want a tf contract with ms to begin with it was ea...activision has to be second best on the same console regardless if respawn has anything to do with it http://n4g.com/news/1476990... i'm sure ea will follow the money and go multiplat with most its games too.
it's just business, follow the money.
@kingtrash except you are 100% wrong, respawn stated on multiple occasions it chose xb1 due to their willingness to provide needed assetts. (such as cloud compute) As for the first title NEVER coming to PS4 well that is a seperate discussion, but your insinuation they were forced to work with MS is a farce, much less to say they had no say in the matter.
Yes greatness in all its 792p glory and sub 60 fps and 6v6 with ignorant AI bot cannon fodder. Screen tearing,lag,fluxuating frames per second that drop into the teens at times.I could go on but my point has been made Respawn has NOT delivered as the hype suggested it would just because you have blinders on doesn't mean all the bad things don't exist. Respawn rushed a game out that was neither optimized or ready for the masses so you really look uneducated putting Respawn up on this throne it hasnt earned and doesn't deserve.
@Copen
I look uneducated? I actually play games instead of babbling on about resolution. They delivered a brilliant game. When has the new Infinity Ward done that?? Name me one decent game that they made after MW2.
I dont have my blinders on because I know that I, along with countless others are enjoying Titanfall. You carry on hating from your sofa as the rest us actually play games. Go put your tinfoil hat on and tell me that the reviews for the game were bought by Microsoft.
@nicksetzer1
Please no more cloud compute... Please. It never proved to be anything special for games, it is hyped up PR bullcrap for MS to get business for their servers. It has been done in games before Azure and will be done on servers other than Azure in the future for tiny things.
and yet COD will probably outsell titanfall 2:1.... so tell me how they are not an important studio for any platform regardless of how much some of us are beginning to tire of COD
LOL if I were one of COD developers, I wouldn't worry about Titanfall. Sure the Doritos Dudes will buy it, but COD has been declining on its own. COD shouldn't be worried about being the biggest seller. They should just worry about innovating their game and I think now that they will be more PS4 focused, they can start to make the game look and perform better. But who knows, maybe they've gotten lazy and used to not really having to do anything. But I still wouldnt worry about Titanfail. Its just COD with robots and won't sell like COD because its on less platforms, is online only, and doesn't push the shooter genre forward.
@ scot . Cloud compute may just be dedicated servers but hell I'm playing Titanfall in Australia on the new Microsoft Sydney servers @40ms ping which is amazing . Never had a online game with such good connection here. Awesome game with awesome connection. Couldn't be happier.
Lol @"a shadow of the previous outhouse that comprised the greatness that now is respawn".
So a 6v6 only, 792 output, really bad AI, bland graphics, and no sp campaign or co-op game that can't even handle 60 fps on your new next gen system is greatness???
Seriously dude get a reality check. Oh n before you away that you like 6v6 only, well they code very well have put more people into the game and let us, the gamers, decide how big of a match. They could do that if they are the greatness that you speak of, right???
Maybe, but it's not like they are the only ones with this tendency.
It's widespread, and for good reason.
im sorry but only now that MS has titan fall and COD is a former shadow of what it used to be is the time they speak up about MS....... PUHLEAZE
So preferring a console mean you Dont like the other? I know this logic runs rampant on n4g but I doubt that's what they meant
So what exactly happens to MS with COD now leading on PS? You guys make it seem as tho COD is going PS4 exclusive! COD will still sell well enough on Xbox platforms! Also even if COD was crap on Xbox who cares theres plenty of other games besides COD! Dont get me wrong I like COD but its not a game I play everyday all day like others!
I doubt any company would ever say 'I am not a fan of system x', as a multiplat company you have to be a lot more diplomatic than that. One does not simply crap all over a console and then release a game for it.
That's... not entirely accurate.
Anyway, how can Thuway confirm anything? This article is even labeled (correctly) as a rumour!
Anyone ever heard the phrase/antithesis "rumors confirm that..."?
Well the old Infinity ward was awesome. Activision stepped on them for MW2 then most left and the new guys made MW3 and Ghosts. They are not said to be the best of Call of Duty at all.
Funny not only are we back to trusting thuway after multiple lies in a row,but now he is a source so accurate his words aren't even rumor ... how does this crap keep passing?
Some believe, some don't. The important thing is that we discuss it because one way or another it could affect both consoles.
@nukeitall........grow up!
@nukeitall,
I will agree that people with the most bubbles are Sonybots. Disagree all you want, but before you do, when your commenting on an article just observe the people with most bubbles and see for yourself that most are anti xbox!
Anything bad against xbone is true, have fun guys greatness awaits in the form of high resolution lol Imma get a wiiu this is getting pathetic and I definitely think this website is biased just by the stupid crap that gets approved and what the mods actually moderate which is bad Sony news.
When a majority of gamers purchase ps4s expect most sites to have a majority pro ps4 comments... it isn't rocket science. Quit complaining.
Now that the ps4 has a bigger install base than the xbox one developers want to go for it. Money hungry hypocrites. I know it's all about the money but most of last Gen some developers gave the middle finger to the ps3 community. As a consumer we suffered from it. At times I just wished Sony gave them the middle finger just for payback but like I said at the end of the day it's just business.
I agree, it is business. However, a lot of 360 owners are moving to the PS4, a great many of us PS3 supporters took a beating from these nose thumbing studios and publishers with several instances of unnecessary shunning of the PS Base.. An apology and some comeuppance at a minimum are in order.
It happened on both sides to some extent but it was definitely skewed towards the 360 being the lead platform. Even so, the ps3 always had the prettier games from the exclusives. I remember first playing heavenly sword and thinking OMG, and that was very early in the ps3 catalogue. From then on games just got prettier and prettier on playstation.
The 360 had its exclusives but they never beat the ps3 in the graphics department in like for like games. So all the xbox really had was that the multi-plats often looked better on the 360 but not by much.
Roll on this new gen and Sony will dominate the multis for the foreseeable future and have stunning exclusives. Xbox will have compatible but slightly gimped multis and stunning exclusives. So its almost a complete swap.
I just hope that the temperature drops in the fanboy wars and that people move on from this very boring way of 'enjoying' this new generation.
The bad thing for 360 owners regarding Heavenly Sword is that it started out as a Microsoft exclusive.
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now that, I didn't know.
Ill never forget the last battle in Heavenly Sword, one of the greatest experience I have had in gaming.
Yeah the multistage fight with Bohan was incredible. My favorite moment is here. She knew she was damning herself but as she said, did she ever really have a choice. You can see the horror on everyone's face as they cannot believe what she has done:
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Maybe with the movie coming Sony will announce a new game:
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
I liked Heavenly Sword but lets face it Xbox community didnt miss out on much! And if it was so great why wasnt another one made?!
Well bakpain attacking all Sony titles, did you ever see a great game that didn't get a sequel. If you haven't then you have been living under a rock.
Why am I bothering with you anyway. You never played the game and have no idea of the greatness in that title.
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Yep..
I'm looking at you, Bethesda..
Let's be honest, nothing is going to happen though. Money talks.
Ok and now its MS consumers who will suffer so im pretty sure your excited about that!
PS3 was actually harder to develop for, so it made sense for developers to be more wary of it.
PS4, however, is both powerful and easy to develop for. There's no reasno not to like it.
@sasuke
Wth does that even mean?
Ontopic : "Thuway: Infinity Ward & Visual Concepts Not Fans of Xbox One"
Is this a studio thing or an individual thing?
Another one of them thuway and pete articles.. some of the developers like to play on ps4 so does that mean they all dont like the xbx one or will stop developing for it? I guess not.
These pete and thuway guys imo have too much time on their hands cos any info is automatically news worthy to them also how does he even know what all the staff of IW and VC like to play? Do they bring their consoles to work to play? Or do they all hold round sessions discussing their preferred console of choice with thuway?...Is he friends with them all?.. weird.
then make a good ******* COD optimized for the PS4. prove it, show it, stop trying to just flatter us!!!
If true then, so? Or why does it matter? Is this even real news?
Ok this isn't even significant news.
I think it matters what devs think of a system you own. Look at how much valve hated the PS3 and were very vocal about it. It took them years to be swayed to support it, and they weren't the only ones. PS3 fans suffered with no release of some third party games and horrible ports because of it.
@scott
I totally understand what your saying but this isnt like the issue valve had with the ps3 earlier on,where Gabe came out and openly stated his dislike for the system and where devs like cdprojekt made their games only on xbx 360. This aint like that. All these devs including vc and iw are developing on both platforms and they have never come out to state their dislike or unwillingless to develop for the xbox one...its insiders like thuway and pete that keep trying to make gamers think its all downhill for the xbx one..its obvious vc and iw will keep making games for the console and so will other devs (big and small)..it doesnt matter what console most of them like to play at home at thier spare time cos even phil and larry play ps4 too and as long as ms keeps working on the sdks and the games keep coming in there will be no issues..some devs might find coding for the esram a burden right now but it will definitly improve and even now some devs like cd projekt find it quite useful, you dont take the opinion of some individuals in certain studios and then generalise on behalf of the entire studios and thats the reason why i find this article uneccessary and fanboyish.
Thought everyone hated call of duty.I know i am tired of the same ol call of duty game
So the studio that makes call of duty, the franchise everyone on n4g hates, supposedly likes ps4 better so now n4g loves call of duty? Hypocrisy at its finest.
Thuway isnt even a real insider. Stop listening to these insider clowns from both sides.
Umm, I haven't seen any comments in here praising Call of Duty as of yet, so I'm not sure what you're reading.
No one is loving the COD franchise on this post. Stop putting words in people's mouths. It's not like it was an exclusive that's switching sides. The series does sell on the ps console so there are fans for it just like there is in the xbox one. You my friend are an instigator
Did you actually read any comments?
The former Infinity Ward was incredible. They made some of the best games ever created. The current Infinity Ward and Treyarch suck hard.
Show one comment of someone hating on Cod then show another comment of the same person saying they love Cod and you would have a valid argument but I have abandoned the COD series after Black Ops 1 never bought another Cod and that's probably not gonna change no matter what console they prefer :/.
Trust me people, go on the one article about ps4 being lead console for Activision now, CoD love a over the place all of a sudden lol.
Now THAT post made no sense. It's obvious all you like to do is take shots at PS. No one on here likes Call of Duty plain and simple.
Of course this has nothing to do with Titanfall at all. Activision get a life and stop being upset Microsoft prefers Titanfall now.
I wish they would change their name. This is not the Infinity Ward that gave us COD, COD2, MW, and MW2. These guys suck.
Well except when Sony First party devs Worked with Cell they made some amazing looking games (•ิ_•ิ).
MS should have never made the Titanfall deal. They need to stop all these FPS deals its not making XB1 better.
Infinity Ward upset with a company that made a deal for Titanfall and Battlefield? who would have thought :/
Especially after they where getting deals previously with the very same company.
Isn't there timed exclusives on PS4 for COD as well....
Haven't we stopped listening to retards like this guy, misterx, Cboat, etc....they are wrong 99 times out of 100..I'm right about insider stuff more often than that. That being said, even IF Infinity Ward is not a fan of XB1...who cares? Clearly they are a broken company right now. They took a tried and true game, tried to put it on next gen consoles, and failed to do a good job. On PS4 it has framerate issues, and on XB1 it has a lower resolution (and after a patch, now it has framerate issues on Stonehaven). I understand it was a launch title, but of the launch titles it was probably the least demanding one, and it failed the most. IF they said they aren't fans of XB1, that sounds more like a kid that isn't good at something..blaming the something he isn't good at for his short comings. I've long thought that IW needs to be taken off the COD rotation...their dreams were just crushed by a Titan.
[email protected] the pot when he feels he is not getting the attention he deserves.
here ya go Thruway..here is a rumor....Exlcusives coming to E3 for both MS and Sony machines and we will be surprised.
Maybe its because it's Hardee for them to develop for and now they are crying like a bunch of bitches!
i am done with this piece of shit website. Good buy fanboys. I am done. deleting my account right now!!
Omg i think N4g wont be able to carry on, please dont, dooooonnnttttt!!!!
OT: who cares about what they feel about the consoles, show me on games, let them do the talking.
Hahaha, goodbye brave soul. I love the way he leaves a comment before he leaves, attention seeking?
Christ how embarrassing.
Garbage insider article again...
How is this even confirmed to make an article..
lol, I'm loving all the defensive Xbox fanboy comments how "IW sucks...only Respawn matters now!" I bet when Titanfall releases on Ps4 Respawn will the "suck" too.
not even close to a fact. titanfall 700,000 copies sold doesn't even scratch Cod sales.
Yup cod sucks yet somehow is the highest selling game every time a new one releases and is usually the higher seller on the 360 but yes let's forget that and pretend titanfall is the best now lol you guys and your goal post moving
Fz6soldier clearly from that last reply I know I shouldn't bother with you. Delusion at its finest. Higher sales in anything dont automatically mean better product.
I'm loving how titanfall is cod with mechs repetitive and filled with dumb bots, but any article insinuating a ps release all the hating is reversed , double standards I think it's called
@Zombiedust, I understand, the WII and Justin Better are proof of this. but to say Titanfall is anywhere near a Cod killer is just stupid at this point.
so now ps4 will get content first? no way iw is going exclusive. iw could have used microsoft servers but noo they had to use their shitty servers. they might not be fans of x1 but they are fans of that Microsoft money, its all money if sony can't match Microsoft's offer for content first none of this matters
There will probably be no more timed exclusive content that is all. I agree their servers are complete garbage i don't know what they did I never lagged once on any other cod
Too bad this means nothing because MLG is with Microsoft and Cod on Xbox won't go anywhere not matter what IW prefers. It will never be an exclusive so why does this matter anyway? Money talks and we know that Microsoft will give whatever cod developer it is all the money they need to do whatever it is that they want.
Also I would put money on Xbox overall selling more than the PS4 for atleast another year with the X1 and 360 combined
Cod is the decline Microsoft just save the first content money and put it towards to lockdown titanfall.
Is there really any need for these types of rumours to be heralded as industry news?
These so called insiders are not taking responsibility for the way in which they select their words, or decide on what they hear on the grape vine is something that people want to know.
There is a small minority that is responsible for a tidal wave of anger, fighting and disrespect amongst gamers on forums all over the net. It really saddens me that this is the sate of gaming now. Kids growing up today are going to think its normal to spout abuse at someone who has a difference of opinion. Its not right.
People wear this info like badges, and start dishing out 'truth' nuggets on fully automatic burst fire. Anyone who reads this comment, don't you get tired of the merry go round sometimes? Is this really fun? We all need to take responsibility for our actions, we need to stop fueling the small fires that are being ignited by click hungry journo-monkeys. We all shout at each other, getting offended by random digit diallers stirring the pot. But there is no difference to any of us, we all like playing video games for god sake!
more and more high up talented individuals will continue to leave the games sector as the client base becomes more and more rabid and disrespectful to their years of dedication. This cant continue the way it is without consequence.
I don't know if I'm making any sense to anyone but hey, as my avatar states, I had to give my 2cents.
Damn titanfall done scared call of duty away lol.Anyway this is fake but its cod so nobody gives a shit what they do.The new king titanfall is here and only on Xbox.Within the next couple of years we will have Halo and Gears.Activision can keep the same old cod crap every year its a dying franchise
Bit of a "no brainer" right there.
It's basically common sense for a developer to "prefer" the console that is easier to develop for that also produces better results.
There might be the rare masacistic rock eater out there that loves the challenge of developing on slow overly complex hardware. But honestly, why wouldn't you prefer "better" hardware if, you had the choice?
Absolutely bullshit. Agenda material.
I hope someone is taking notes because all these phoney "insiders" and the sites who support them need to be exposed and taken down
Sounds like theyr'e eating sour grapes due to not getting their usual bonus from microsoft in their paychecks. if it's true
Thuway "confirms". confirms?????
Oh well then, if he said it, it must be true.
Surely if someone "confirms" something, it must be from the an actual, official source confirming a rumour or speculation??
Lol???n4g. Whatever flies, as long as it is a negative xb story
I could care less what Infinity Ward thinks of ANYTHING gaming related, let alone the Xbox One.
Maybe they just think black ops 3 will be more awesome in vr then waving your hands to navigate the menus?
Thuway also agreed with CBoat that the Titanfall alpha textures were final. Just saying. Stop taking INSIDER information as fact. He also said that the Order 1886 footage coming a few weeks ago would blow everyone's minds and show that "the next gen is here." Most people were grossly unimpressed by it and complained about massive framerate issues and what looked like basic cover/shooter and QTE mechanics. He's a Sony fanboy insider. I'm not saying insiders are always wrong, but they're definitely not always right.
Also, if the COD devs start talking crap about Xbox, it will just reinforce Microsoft's desires to throw a huge chunk of money at Respawn for Titanfall exclusivity. Titanfall is a huge middle finger to the sinking COD franchise.
I've never bought a game from the "new" IW so their opinions mean less than nothing to me or my friends. If this is true, why be butt hurt over Titanfall? They have had plenty of time to prove themselves and what do they do produce garbage. Make a good game and EARN some respect before biting the hand that has feed you all of these years.
Come on guys, we all like ps4, its a great console, but are you sure you want Xbox out of the map? Have you thought of the consequenses of it failling? If you are true gamers you should know you need healthy competition between companies in order for the industry to thrive. I personally own all of sony's consoles a 360 and a pretty descent pc. For now xbox one hasnt won me over (its not even available in my country) but if I see games that I like for that platform and since gaming is my main hobby I wouldnt hesitate to buy one. Think it over. Are you guys gamers or company reps...
"COD is so overrated and full of kids. Can't wait for it to go away!"
*rumour says COD developer prefers PS4*
"OMG this is awesome news!"
I wanna thank MS for some cool names this gen - 'Krazy Cloud Powah!' 'Dat Secret Sauce' 'The Bone' - the list goes on and these words will forever be remembered by many.
lololol, if PS4 gamers would know what they're missing.
so sad and funny at the same time ;)
not a single xbox one gamer i know cares about the hypestation 4 ... so save yourself some time and play some of your great games ;)
another pathetic N4G fanboy post. Who cares about a Infinity Ward DEV, they r a awful company who makes no attempts at making call of duty better. these console wars are really annoying. as a owner of both i have my pros and cons of both. but overall if u have fun playing games on them thats all that matters.
Who gives a sh*t what the devs game on? MAKE ME A GAME THAT IS NOT A CARBON COPY OF THE PREVIOUS!
Driver updates from Xbone not offense but PS4 will do same time as well so the gap will stay be gap
Rumor: for now
thuway is a creatin. He was more wrong then correct. If you start throwing s..t around one of them will stick on the wall.
This is way he doesn't post anymore on GAF, because he has been warned and banned so many times, that if he gets banned one more time, it's perma ban. Not a joke.
I got my first error with Netflix on PS4 yesterday.
I also got an error when I went to check my messages. "Rebuilding Database"
It's funny because at launch everything went by pretty smoothly. The errors aren't game breaking or frequent for me but they are alarming and they shouldn't be happening at all.
As to improvements I'd like to see:
-Improved Web Brower. It shouldn't lag when I scroll up and down. It shouldn't cut off the edges of the screen when I go full screen.
-Speed improvements when accessing the new XMB while in-game. This was my biggest issue with the PS3 and it seems to still be an issue for PS4.
-Better multi-tasking. When I double-tap the PS Button to switch between a game and the web browser, it should be near-instant. There's currently a delay that needs to be addressed.
-Accessing the Share Button settings is too slow. I think this goes back to the multi-tasking needing some optimization.
-Netflix. I want to be able to turn off my Dualshock 4 without my Netflix movie/tv show pausing. Seriously, I need to leave it on for 10 minutes so it automatically shuts down. What a waste!
These are just some little things that bother me with the system. I am overall pleased with my PS4. I can't wait to see it evolve over the years!
The problem is, as far as I'm aware, PCs have never before had the advantage at a console launch. When Halo first came out, and when Halo 3 first was unveiled, the graphics were phenomenal, like nothing we'd ever seen. But now? We've seen better looking titles on high-end PCs, without mods. With mods things get ridiculous.
This is the first console launch I've seen where, as far as I can see, there's just better options than getting a console. That's all without factoring in the PC games are generally cheaper.
XB1 and PS4 will probably be very successful, but I think much more of the hardcore crowd is now going to move away from consoles.
duh, compare xbox 360 and ps3 in 2005-2006 to today