The PS4 will arrive by Christmas this year and you can bet your bottom dollar that the Xbox 720 will as well. But that is a long time to wait and every trailer or confirmed title shown on YouTube makes that wait just a little bit harder.
I agree and plus I want my exclusive games!
There's no uncharted or god of war?! or any other Sony first party exclusives for that matter?!?! Maybe if I only cared for multiplats and MMORPG games then sure, pc would make sense... But this is not the case.
PC has a lot of exclusives also.
@Kratos_Kills Is this what gamers have become? Being exclusive to one system for exclusive games? It's like multiplatform games don't even matter anymore.I feel sorry for you bro, your missing out on a lot. @Army_of_Darkness "Maybe if I only cared for multiplats and MMORPG games then sure, pc would make sense... But this is not the case." You sir have a very broad view of PC gaming. I don't think you have ever even gamed on PC nor bothered to look up any games on PC. Whatever, be a console elitist or more so keep dick riding Sony. Bottomline, Why don't gamers enjoy all consoles and PC? Why do you have to dick ride one company?
Yeah, it's not next-gen if there are no games or the games are just the same games but with a little less pop-in and better textures. There's more to next-gen than that.
inveni0, That's true. What is next gen, Killzone 12 with better particle effects or Halo 16 with more enemies onscreen? I want to see more innovation. The Witness could be very cool. AnimeAvenger, Considering the bulk of software sales stem from multiplats I'd agree. The PC has the largest library and it also doesn't suffer as much from things like backwards compatibility. The thing is PC gamers and consoles gamers can co-exist and there is no need to attack one or the other. maniacmayhem, Yes they do and they also have games in every price region much more so than consoles. Army_of_Darkness, Where's Starcraft? What about Halo? Mario, Zelda, Forza, Faster Than Light, DOTA 2, Total War games. Nothing wrong with Sony's exclusives but there are many games that are not on the PS3.
Will this PC have Infamous, Uncharted, Killzone, Last of Us, God of War, Gran Turismo, Last Guardian or any other Playstation exclusive? No? No thanks then.
@Gta2800 The hilarious part is that there are a plethora of people out there who do not care for those games and would say something along the lines of "Does the playstation have Gears, Halo or Forza? NO thanks then" or "Do the consoles have Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs, ARMA III or Command Conquer? No? No thanks then." In other words, what you're saying is a frivolous attempt at belittling other games platforms.
ArmA 3 is the one game I really can sink my teeth into! It's a game that has a plethora of other free games within the game... via modding community. As well as other moddable games such as Skyrim, GTA 4 and a number of games that allow modding. For the cost of my initial purchase, I get endless amounts of experiences for my dollar. Something the consoles just can't do! Console gamers are at the mercy of the developers. They have to wait for paid dlc to any sort of new experiences from a game... and in most cases it's usually a few maps & maybe some weapons, which bumps the cost of the game by up to 50% depending how many dlc's there are. Also I can have LAN parties with friends without needing to be connected to the internet. Again, something that definitely will not be allowed on consoles! I learn my lesson with the PS3 when trying to do a LAN party, even with a good connect, having 10 or so consoles trying it, is not ideal. The funny thing about many of the exclusives is they are stuck in a sequel rut as this moment in time... not all mine you but many of them are. I must admit I love the Uncharted series, but I'm going to wait for at least 3 or 4 years before getting the PS4, that way I'm not buying a $400 to $600 console for a few exclusive games, they'll as least be a few I can choose from.
Not trying to argue here... just want to point out that PS4 is x86, so we will probably see a lot of once exclusive to PC games end up on the PS4. It would be a very simple port process, and the devs will probably want to make some money. So if the install base is there, we may see ArmA and others end up on PS4. Diablo 3 will be the litmus test of PC -> PS4.
Pc is for super nerd. I hate upgrading videocard. Last time I upgrade my videocard is for starcraft 2 wing of liberty for $150. Now with heart of the swarm, it's lagging on high setting. I was thinking should I spend $100 every 2 years for cheap card or spend $300 every 3-4 years for a good one? And all this just for a couple of games. I do admits PC games have the best awsome graphic but It's a messy business with technical issue.
List of all exclusives and multiplats for all platforms that was known 6 months ago. I wonder who has more exclusives now??? http://i.imgur.com/xBGRn.jp...
Your life must me miserable...
Just out of interest when was the last time a PC game has won a Game of the year including all platforms??
Not just exclusives, a lot pf the games on consoles are not on PC, like JRPG, and some of 3rd party games, demon souls, castlevania, metal gear, dynasty warriors, etc.
Go next gen now with no next gen games lolol
only on n4g does a game thats "exclusive" equal greatness. in the real world a good game is a good game no matter what its paltform or platforms are!
truth is, pc has the most games, but most of those are mostly shovelware. And the ones that matter, besides Total War and WoW, are on consoles, or will be on consoles. Sony has already came out and gave us the specs. Most people I know who game on pcs don't even have that much power. Nor would they even care to have that much power. I honestly think 8 gigs of RAM is over kill. I was expecting 2 gigs, 4 at the most. So ya, pc gaming will always be here, but it was always be a niche market. Unless you playing Zynga games or facebook games, you are already in the minority. Just accept this already. There's no need to have a who can urinate the longest contest.
This is too funny.PS4 and 720 really got the PC elitist shook. Had to pull out that overkill $1000 card out. Point blank period PC will never be my goto gaming device.Some of the same reasons why this gen xbox360 wasnt my goto gaming device.Friends and exclusives but mainly friend. None of my friends game on PC. FYI when someone says it doesnt have certain exclusives that in no way means the pc doesnt have any.It means PC doesnt have exclusives that person cares about.So all this "pc haz exclusivez too" is beyond the point.
"Bottomline, Why don't gamers enjoy all consoles and PC? Why do you have to dick ride one company?" ..... My apologies, I'm gonna go SLUTASTIC and dick ride every company now;-) BTW, I enjoy multiplats as well(Dead space series being one of my favs), but what I'm trying to say you don't seem to understand... Does PC also offer exclusive games that I recently mentioned not to long ago?? NO. So this is why I choose Sony cause they are very versatile and I am also on a budget bro, Got bills to pay. And yes I played a couple PC games... Like plants vs. zombies:-D LOL! ain't paying a couple hundred for a graphics card just to play a few games.
One word "emulators" fanboys mad yet?
Just make a custom build case for the living room. It's not hard and it's very fun. My HTPC is in a wooden Jewelry Box and most people do not even know it's a PC until the flash drive on the side lights up. My Level 10 GT or my Haf X look good no matter where they sit.
LOL, a wooden box...use any special heat resistant materials or coatings in between the mobo and wood? A Haf X would be too big for the living room, would stick out like a sore thumb...or it would need a custom paint job. Level 10 just looks to segmented for my tastes.
Wood? Pfft. I'll stick to my custom-made used-oil can rig lined with rags, thank you very much. Why not just a smaller tower? Nothing negative about the look of a regular desktop.
yea no i'll stick to my consoles. much easier and comfortable for me.
I would, but if I bought a PC that small for the same price as a PS4, it wouldn't be anywhere near as powerful. Nowhere near the bandwidth, not in a closed environment (having much more OS overhead and such), and it probably would still consume more power. Plus I'd miss out on all those amazing SCEWWS exclusives.
Basically they want a 1800$ compact pc (not so compact) just to play crysis 3? For them (author) money doesn't matter... but you see.. you're just 0.0000000001% of the world population that thinks like that..
Lol the authors reccomending i buy a 1,800 pc over a 400-600$ console. Console vs Pc for me comes down to the fact that consoles are gaming machines from the ground up. I like a real gaming controler that works on every game and is comfortable to sit back and hold. The games are optimized and i will be able to be play any games that come out on the system. It has a gaming dedicated os and a universal network and store for games. Honestly the only thing i like better about pc gaming is mods (and the total war series), so spending more on a pc is just pointless.
"Keep it small" but the picture shows a thing at least 5 times bigger than the 360. Please someone helps me, I'm stupid.
I was laughing at that picture. He said its only 2x the thickness and a little bit taller i believe but then you see the picture and its way bigger.
That thing looks more like a radio than a PC.
It's funny how some people just can't grasp the concept that not everybody cares about the power behind a system. I own a console because of the ease of use and the exclusive titles. It's a shame that storytelling and game-play seems to have taken a back seat to "oh my god, look at that the detail of the grass!" visuals.
It's funny how some people just can't grasp the concept that some people care about the power behind a system. I own a PC because of the ease of use, the exclusive titles and its wide range of uses.
Well done for completing missing the point I was trying to make.
PC isn't exactly great for sitting on a couch and relaxing whilst you game though
"PC isn't exactly great for sitting on a couch and relaxing whilst you game though" What is this ? 1995? Do you even know the possibilities?
@die_fiend you can use your 360 or ps3 controller for games you know...Also there are wireless keyboards and mouse.
No offense, but if you are actually a PC gamer "ease of use" is not something you can hold over a console gamer.
McScroggs - and everyone else for that matter. On both PS3 and 360 you still have to install some of the games to the hard drive to be able to play them. 360 players will argue that it's not the case with them and that it's completely optional excluding a few titles... well you still have to worry about how much space you have on your proprietary hard drives that are still overpriced to this day 3/21/12... 6 years later. You also have to get up and swap disks if it's a larger game like LA Noire or Max Payne... that alone puts the 360 at the bottom of the list in terms of "Ease of use" for consoles. PS3 has it a little easier simply because you can upgrade the harddrive to anything up to 1tb so that alleviates the space problems... Unlike 360 though your stuck installing mostly all the games before you can even play them which can take anywhere from 2mins-1hour maybe longer in some rare cases.(MGS 4 Multiplayer for starters) WII would by far wipe the floor with PS3/360/PC when it comes to ease of use... my grandparents can use it without any help. I don't know why people say PC is hard to use... sure you have drivers and what not but there's this little thing called automatic updates. My asus board prompts me when there's a driver update and with 1 or 2 clicks it installed... same for my Nvidia drivers. On the gaming side the most grueling part is waiting for the games to download and that's completely reliant on your internet speeds. Once it's downloaded though installation is a simple process... and then I'm playing it.
@N0S PC gaming has become much simpler for sure. However it still has issues which many people can have problems with. They can be rare, but when they arise they are frustrating. It may not be that way for a lot of people on here since we tend to be more tech minded, but PC's still have a ways to go to match the ease of consoles. Even with all that stuff you mentioned about installs or updates, on a console they are simple and require just a button press. God forbid you get a new game on the PC and there is some driver that isn't compatible with whatever current version of windows you have. Not a problem for the tech minded, but how many "regular" people do you know that can go find the proper driver online, or know that there is even a compatibility mode. PC gaming isn't for everyone...and it doesn't help that the majority of games that appeal to the more casual tend to screw up a PC system's efficiency making it seem like it only gets slower over time...because again, people don't know how to maintain their PC's.
@Mushroom exactly. "The grass looks more green and the sky looks more blue." ___<<<< Insert next gen title here "GOTY!" I fear for next gen now, is it gonna be about how things look, or about how to tell a story or how innovative the gameplay is. If its only about graphics next gen then its gonna be a short next gen for me. I'm not buying a game for graphics, I'm buying it for the whole entire package.
GOTY is a pretty subjective thing. Looking at last year the one that received a lot was Journey, and it wasn't a graphics powerhouse. It was up against a lot of really great looking titles. It was unique and innovative in it's own way though, so to me that bodes well for gaming. Some people are graphics whores but unique and innovative titles will always be in the mix due to the nature of development. If people want pretty graphics instead of game play, then I say to each their own.
I do like the way Apple's mac mini looks.
Some of these PCs are so expensive, Bill Gates has to save up for one.
Why are people so hellbent on trying to eliminate consoles? What do you have against them? Why can't they just exist in the same bubble.Why does everything always have to eliminate something else. Consoles have their pros and cons no different then computes do but people always act as if there is no down sides to gaming computers.I have tried computer gaming.I prefer consoles.
It wasn't such a big deal this gen, but the transition into the next gen it is becoming one. People already know PCs can shell out better graphics, and they boast more exclusives yet few are ever given attention. This gen might have been known as the "console wars", next could be seen as "consoles vs PC war". Overall it really is stupid, but PC fanboys actually seem to fear the capabilities of consoles next gen. Why else would they react so much?
these mini itx cases are annoying as they have bad airflow andare tough to work with etc
nope exclusive games + split-screen gaming FTW
I actually have a PC in a Bitfenix Prodigy cabinet like that in my living-room hooked up to the TV with a gamepad controller. And a PS3,X360 and a Wii U. And guess what....when the PS4 and the new Xbox comes they will replace the old consoles. Why settle with 1 option when you can have all?
Really how you operate windows with a controller? Ohhhh wait, nevermind. But joking aside it's all good.
Hah! I have a controller connected to my PC, and steam's big picture mode lets me browse my game library with the controller, but there a few problems with this setup. 1. Not every game is compatible with a controller. 2. If a game needs and update, you have to use a mouse to click through some dialogs... not nearly as user friendly as a console 3. Some games like Assassin's Creed make you launch a Ubisoft launcher app and you have to use a mouse to click Play. 4. Not controller related, but on console, you're dealing with one service with one account... but on PC, you have to have a separate online account with the publisher of the game... Ubisoft, Origin, Windows Live, Rockstar... etc. Also, don't forget about how some games get released on PC but, they don't work properly at first because the video card manufacturers need to release new drivers to fix performance issues. Some games that come to mind are Tomb Raider and Rage. I'm mainly a console gamer, but I do game on PC as well so I know first hand the benefits and downsides of gaming both ways.... I usually stick to console though because it's generally easier and more user friendly. I know if I stick a game in that I bought 5 years ago, it's gonna work as if it just came out. What happens when you've updated your PC with new graphics drivers and new operating systems and suddenly some of your older games that used to work flawlessly, have issues because they weren't meant to run on such new software/hardware? Compatibility issues arise on PC, but not on consoles.
I use a "remote" like this, I have a gaming PC in the living room right next to my consoles, it's also my DVR for over the air TV channels. http://www.prlog.org/115950...
this post should be at the top..and no more posts after it... thats how i think... just have all the systems..play whatever you want.. some people are going to say "i cant afford them all" just save up..it takes time...but its worth it
There are many many things to say but I think just this one says more then enough. Some people have hobbies and interest outside gaming. Even those who can afford it may not see the value in it or care to deal with any of the hassles. So why would you assume those who couldn't afford it would be willing to sacrifice and budget their other hobbies and interest just to own multiple gaming systems/setups?
No thanks, didn't spend the last 8 years in a particular ecosystem just to give that all up now.
Console gamer 4 life ps4 for me
It's all about the games. Always has been and always will.
And that's how it should be. I'm tired of the fact that the only thing that taxes my GTX 680 are a hand full of titles every year. The rest are console ports, MMOs, and shitty indie games I honestly don't care about. So it does boil down to the games. And no matter how you slice it, there are games that consoles provide that the PC won't. If I wasn't such a PC hardware enthusiast, I'd probably quit PC gaming. Can't wait for the PS4. Might actually give me a reason to make my PC a pure workstation for my engineering projects.
Your 680 card wasnt ever intended to max out current games. The $500 price tag is if u want multiple monitors at extremely high res like 2500x1400+. Maybe you should do a better job at researching your next purchase.
If people are lucky they can play games on all three. Each platform has a few exclusives that are awesome.
consoles are better. Pc you have to deal with all those shits, like updates, bugs, installs,...
Really? Consoles don't have updates, bugs, large mandatory installs?
Not to the degree required by PCs. And unless you're dyslectic, buy a PS3 or Wii game for an Xbox, the game you've bought will run in the system. Might need a patch to run online, but wont need a new graphics card or more RAM to actually run.
@Godmars290 Not to the degree of the PC? Then why do the updates I have to install take hours to download and then install?
And you just have to configure it. Not at all like consoles, which generally only need to be plugged in,
The world of PC gaming has always been next-gen
IMA give up on this website,alllllways PC players boasting about how big their shit is,had better visualls for years blah blah,no one gives a fuck ya nerdy cunts.. go play ya lame library