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Submitted by FanOfGaming 700d ago | rumor

RUMOR: Behind the Scenes with First Party Hardware and Third Party Softwear Next Gen

Recently Dual Pixels has received word from Geno, the guy who delivered us the rumors, that came true, about Castlevania and the Kingdom Hearts HD collection, about Next Gen. This statement talks about the next-gen PlayStation, XBOX, and some of Nintendo's plans for upcoming E3. (Industry, Microsoft, Next-Gen, Nintendo, Sony Computer Entertainment)

Update New note from author: "I got this rumor about month ago and have been waiting to see if anything changed. I have not gotten any updates on this rumor yet, but please notice that this could all change from a very small percentage to quite erratically. We do not claim that this rumor will be 100% true, but we do see truth in this. So please keep in mind that in the end it will not be 100% true, but it could.

IN A NUTSHELL this could all be true right now, but all of it could change tomorrow because THATS how gaming development works. I am not in any way, shape, or form retracting my statement. The reason that I put this up is because I see truth in this, not so I can spread fake things just to get people excited."

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blue_cheese  +   700d ago
link doesn't work... >.>

working link: http://dualpixels.com/2012/...
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DeforMAKulizer  +   700d ago
The link in the N4G submission is wrong.

http://dualpixels.com/2012/...

This is the proper one
FanOfGaming  +   700d ago
Thank you
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DeforMAKulizer  +   700d ago
Fixed now.
BlindGuardian  +   699d ago
"Direct hardware Backwards Compatibility will be available by a $70 – $99 dongle that is plugged into the Omni that contains a PS3 on a chip with Cell to run games."

like like
AsimLeonheart  +   699d ago
I am a little disappointed if its true that Omni will be significantly less powerful than Durango. Omni should be at least comparable to Durango; even a little less powerful does not matters for me. Still, it is just a rumour so let us wait and see how it turns out actually. I should get upset so soon. :-)
FanOfGaming  +   700d ago
Thanks man
hakis86  +   700d ago
So, how legit will this turn out to be.. interesting.

The PS4 (or "Omni"?) with glasses sounds plausable, considering Sony has released to versions of their 3D visor. So they will actually launch first?
Biofeedback is also interesting.
Omnicloud is interesting!

The Xbox being most powerful is a slight downer for me personally - just because I was planning on getting PS4 and not Xbox...hmm.
The new Kinect wil probably be good, for those who like that tech.
The prosjected stuff sounds WAY TO FAR FETCHED imo...
I mean, it _could_ be cool; but how will it work? Do you have to have an entire gaming room? Will you have to stand/turn around, or can the image be rotated around you? (I hope it can).
Flashy and fancy, useful?

Either Way, Wii U is going to S T R U G G L E... :)

I'm intrigued!
ronin4life  +   700d ago
If this is all true, or even partially so, the wiiu has the most support, the cheapest console(also the least complicated) and the best 3rd party relations.

How does that say wiiu will "struggle"? It looks to me to have the absolute best set up. You have to be being sarcastic or reading something different than me...
kneon  +   700d ago
The 360 degree projector idea was been thrown around a few times already, the problem is it will just never work well, unless you live in an Apple store :)

Most people have far too many dark objects and clutter in the room, you just can't see anything projected on something much darker than light beige.
hakis86  +   699d ago
@ronin4life (and disagrees)

I can see that it might seem a bit immature to write it like that, sorry.
I am sure it will sell well for some years.
What i meant is that considering it is on par with or weaker than the PS3/360, the Wii U will struggle with graphics, and all multiplat games will have to be graphically reduced in quality on the Wii U, which is unfortunate.
Though I am excited to see which 3rd party titles exclusive to the Wii U we will se over the Wii U's lifetime!

I think the Wii U and the tablet can deliver some great experiences, but for me personally I am more intrigued by the other systems possibilities.
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akaakaaka  +   699d ago
Yeah this guy clearly is a PLAYSTATION hater.
What the point on making a nexbox 2 or 4 times better then the PS4 (that is obviously using dx11or more advanced teach already and it makes it hard to beat) if most if not all multip. Games will look the sames just like last gen and this gen devs will try to match the less powerful consol, sadly is always this way. Ps2 stop devs from using the true xbox power and xbox360 stop devs from using true PS3 power.
If anything the difference will be small like always or they may even have a clone teach this time.

I hope some of the games rumors are real but going this by most of it is fake and I could have also made this out by all the rumors I know and most of you know.

SIREN next gen will be nice.
AND I'm The only one who want a next gen extermination game? The ip is owned by SONY and it will be a amazing good next gen game if is made right.
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LordMe  +   700d ago
Ninja Theory having Onimusha is a very bad thing...

PSOmni sounds odd... But could be interesting.
Not a fan of Kinect, but we will see how they do.

DW8 better be on the other systems as well!
Again, Capcom will not make a Monster Hunter for Sony... WTF?
I figured Slant Six would get another shot with the games.
No mention of vsXIII... But I am interested to see what becomes of Agni...

Interesting way to do the SSB Beta if they do it...
Soul Calibur V with more content could be a good thing...
EA with more new IP's... Interested to see them!

Bungie's new game sounds... Odd...

All in all, I am nervous about a new gen. As dev costs rise, smaller games will not be as abundant.

But if this stuff is true... It could be a very interesting E3
Mocat  +   700d ago
Onimusha+ ninja theory Noooo for the love of god please ive been waiting for ever i even wanted an hd version of warlords why would capcom do something like this.
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1Victor  +   699d ago
mocat to nickle and dime you 99 cents per stronger sword + costume
Skate-AK  +   700d ago
I don't like that Ninja Theory is getting Onimusha but I said that was gonna happen months ago.
Simon_Brezhnev  +   700d ago
I dont want Ninja Theory touching Onimusha. Why have a western dev do a heavenly japanese story game. They will ruin it then talk shit about the original. I know if DMC sells good i bet they get the great light for it.
DeforMAKulizer  +   700d ago
So overall that was an interesting read.

MS is going to be the big risk taker next gen like the PS3. The PS4/Omni will have the head start and cheaper model and assume more of the 360's role this gen and the Wii U will have Nintendo's publishing incentives.

Im interested to see the whole Omni initiative from both MS and Sony. The 360 display thing from MS might prove difficult. I mean in my room every wall is covered with closets said for one wall with a window.

Didnt really get how the Omniviewer works, but i figured its more of a wearable goggle?

Interesting ventures all around.
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   699d ago
I have an MS insider on my site. Be ready for a screen in the controller like the Wii U has, and also the analog sticks will rumble in the new Durango controller.

I've post all this before, and nobody but a few believed. The closer we get, more and more info comes out, and paints my insider, like always... 100% correct. :)

Everything sounds interesting. Omni, Durango...

oh, and Durango will be rocking 8 gigs of memory as well.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   700d ago
Info taken from other sources, much of it is not true.
EDI  +   700d ago
...?
That's not true...
portal_2  +   700d ago
Terrible read
animegamingnerd  +   700d ago
if this is true 2013 and 2014 sounds like a great year for all 3 of them
maniacmayhem  +   700d ago
Very good read and this has gotten me very excited on whats to come in the future.

The whole Nintendo looking to publish and finance games through 3rd parties for exclusives is really the smart route (IMO). You don't need to have costs of a 1st party studio and you get all the benefits of a great game. I don't know why Sony/MS don't go the same route. Especially for games that were cancelled.

The new Sony system sounds bad a** hopefully what they said is true especially about turning any TV into an IMAX experience. The new xbox sounds awesome too but I'm skeptical about having games on all four walls in a house, what if you have a living room with walls cluttered with family photos, posters, plants or anything else? Maybe I'm mis-reading it.

"Crystal Dynamics plans to resurrect the Legacy of Kain"
*Faints*
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Skate-AK  +   700d ago
Holy crap I didn't even see that part about Legacy of Kain.
animegamingnerd  +   700d ago
next gen looks very promising right now for nintendo and sony i really hope to see if all of this is true at E3 and get a wii u before that supposed smash bros beta starts
Conzul  +   700d ago
Indeed, next E3 will be the one to be pumped for!
Godchild1020  +   700d ago
I will buy a Next Gen Xbox on day one, If another Project Gotham Racing game is to be release with it.

Everything sounds interesting.
DJ  +   700d ago
PS3 backwards compatibility for $99? A Cell system on a chip? That's f'ing insane. I'm down!

$399 to $499 is good, and I'm really interested in the Omni Viewer since that tech was demoed a few years ago and really does trick you into thinking your screen is 3D.

The interesting part is that Sony and Microsoft are switching roles this time around. Sony will have the cheaper, less powerful system launching early, while Microsoft will have the more expensive, more powerful system launching later.
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Godchild1020  +   700d ago
I hope its wireless. I would hate to be playing and have something pop out at me and I fall back, out of my chair pulling my system with me.

Trophies and achievements need to be compatible with next Gen right out of the gate.

I really want to what the each system look like before jumping for joy for best gen and the games to come.
DJ  +   700d ago
Haha, that would be so sad, having a big wire dangling in front of your face!

I think the next gen of games is going to look pretty similar to what we have now, just crisper and smoother.
Doesn't mean ps4 won't have the best looking games. Ps3 is not miles ahead of 360 but sony dev push hardware to the limit!
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I expect the same for Playstation Omni or PSo.
But truely I hope to see gotham city next gen.

"This service will not only cloud stream PS1, PS2 and select PS3 games to Playstation Certified devices but will also allow every digital and retail purchase to have access to a copy on the cloud."

If this is true I will be so f***ing happy.
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Pillsbury1  +   699d ago
Omni stream does sound amazing, imagine playing killzone 4 or battlefield 4 on vita? I would mess my pants!
dafegamer  +   699d ago
in Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Media Molcule(for making the best looking platformer LBP) Sucker Punch and Polyphony we trust
shackdaddy  +   700d ago
The Omni sounds different. Not sure if I'd use the omniviewer or not. But I'm glad it wont be super expensive like the PS3 was starting out. And the release games seem really awesome. It'll be a good launch for them I can tell. I don't think they should do the whole biofeedback thing with the controller. It seems pretty cool but I don't think it'll be used enough to justify a higher price.

Nintendo sounds like they are gonna have a ton of first party games and third party exclusives nxt year which is great to hear.

The new Xbox probably sounds the worst out of all of them to me. It sounds like they are gonna rush out the console which will probably mean it'll have problems and then they're charging a really steep price for it. And the livewall sounds like a cheap gimmick to me. I also hope there's a version that doesn't have Kinect2 bundled because I have absolutely no use for it. The "known first party games" sound pretty boring too TBH but that probably wouldn't be all of them...

E3s gonna be exciting though.
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ronin4life  +   700d ago
Continuing down the list, many many games were listed for wiiu and omni but not NextBox.

Just as wii was too weak for MP titles, NextBox may be to strong and or complicated.

The scary thing is, even though this us all rumor it seems so likely... and in my opinion long term awful for sony and Ms...
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Saigon  +   700d ago
ronin,

earlier the author said ms didn't release everything to the devs 'yet' so that may be the delay
ronin4life  +   700d ago
@saigon
But does that sound much better? To me, having problems with your own system isn't the best way to attract support.

Devs won't want to have to deal with such things when they can just release on the consoles they are already focused on and move on to something else.
Saigon  +   700d ago
ronin,

You make a good point...I guess we have to wait to see what will happen...
animegamingnerd  +   700d ago
the only game that i might looking forward to on the next xbox is fable 4 since i am fan of the series but since fable 3 sucked and journey looks like crap i don't have much faith but hopefully that peter molyneux is no longer with lion head the fable franchise can be good again
Saigon  +   700d ago
shack,

do you know what the biofeedback controller is?
shackdaddy  +   700d ago
Um, ya. What's not to get about it? Do you really think devs are gonna put in the time in to bother implementing it into games though? Plus it's very dependent with what type of game you play.

I mean, it'll be cool with certain stuff, but I really can't see a lot of people using it. And it'll just be another added price...
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Saigon  +   700d ago
I don't think it would be an added price if its built into the controller. Sony has been researching the technology for a while and I think it would be cool for a game to interact to you. To me an extra cost would be adding something that is not needed and wouldn't make a difference in the long run. such as the six Axis. The implied thought was there but the tech wasn't needed in the long run. I think this biofeedback could return to positive for Sony, similar to the force feedback buttons that everyone uses now.
Sanquine90  +   699d ago
I think with scary games like dead space they will throw a lot of creeps at you when the biofeedback is to low ( You are bored then:P)
C0MPUT3R  +   699d ago
It is the next evolution of force feedback.
Skate-AK  +   700d ago
New Gen Siren!!!!!!
I know man i am so excited for that. A Siren game with highly detailed graphics will be horrifying and beautiful. I am also very excited about Kojima saying that he wants someone to make a new Silent Hill game with his new Fox Engine. Hopefully key members from Team Silent come back so they can make a great game. It needs to come back to Japanese developers because the western ones fucked it up
jizzyjones  +   700d ago
Baffling read. "This can turn any TV into a 3D TV" really? don't think sony would want that somehow. Omni sounds interesting, big time. 720 didn't. Although I crave POWERRR and "Compared to Wii U, it is better, but not the biggest leap in the world" didn't make my testicles bulge.....lets wait n see.
M83_  +   700d ago
Still suffering from the auld blue balls, ah?

:P
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The_Infected  +   700d ago
This is going to get weird next gen! Can't wait to see how all this works. I know I'd rather have the Playstation Omniview thing unless Microsoft figures a way to project the great image on walls with all kinds of crap and doors? It's really confusing as hell honestly. Can't wait for E3!
rapidturtle  +   700d ago
If Sony keeps the price lower the the nextbox, and keeps PSN free, I see a new winner in the console war next Gen.
Tyre  +   700d ago
Complete BS, most of this info was already known and is based on already obsolete leaks from old concepts from 2010 about the next Xbox (already debunked that Kinect is build-in, it will still be separate but comes with the console). Sony's Next console speculations are utterly nonsense...nobody knows.
Omega Zues  +   700d ago
Agreed. Just think about it, some how magically this guy gets leaked content from every developer across the world? To top it off he also has all the down low on all the next-gen consoles...Down to their manufacturing process? Then their retail prices?

Yeah, this guy is just feeding into what people want to hear.

While, yes some rumors do become true. Its typically the small tidbits that turn out to be real. Not this massive write-up.

I still cant get over how ridiculous the supposed PS4 part was. Dont believe any of that for a second.
th3n00bg4m3r  +   700d ago
The only two consoles i am excited for are:
the next PlayStation console and Valve's first console. If the next generation Xbox charges to play online, then i will pass it.
The_Infected  +   700d ago
This is as close to understanding Microsofts wall projection plans for the next Xbox that I can somewhat understand.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/tec...
bobshi  +   700d ago
So the PS4 will be half as powerful as the 720.

I best dig up my old XBL password.
Conzul  +   700d ago
Unlikely.
bobshi  +   699d ago
No, I don't see it happening either.
dafegamer  +   699d ago
cant imagine that
bobshi  +   699d ago
It is what the article says, it is therefore the exact truth, my friend.
BigStef71  +   700d ago
That read was pretty mind blowing if it is true lmao
DivineAssault  +   700d ago
Thats way too in depth to be far from the truth.. I kinda believe this to a degree.. If omni is weaker than nxbox by that much, ill be shocked.. It makes sense to keep the costs down while MS tries to lock ppl into gold accounts eventually charging 3x what omni costs.. Wall projection games are cool for casuals but ar/vr 3d glasses seem like it will immerse u into the games far beyond motion controls OMNISLASH!!
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cyhm3112  +   700d ago
fake, ps4 only 2 or 3 times more powerful than Wii U? stupid
ALLWRONG  +   699d ago
Not stupid, cost-effective. Do you really think Sony wants to lose more money?
izumo_lee  +   700d ago
Not sure if any of this is truth so it will be really interesting the next few months when actual news of next gen consoles begin to surface.

It looks like Sony is kinda going back to their roots by releasing a 'powerful but not AS powerful' system which is hopefully easy to develop for. The price is pretty cheap considering those Omniview headsets are like $600 right now. What really interests me is the Omnicloud service aka.Gaikai that they will implement. If it works like we all hope it does that may be the deal breaker for many. The ability to do all that this article suggests is massive. Also nice touch for an add-on that will solve all those 'backward compatibility' issues that many were wondering.

I kinda get if Omni will be weaker than Nextbox cause if Microsoft is using a new Kinect built in they will need all the horsepower to make that wall projection work, whereas for the Omniviewer it may not be as neccessary to have a lot of power.

Like i said it will get very interesting for sure.
Jamaicangmr  +   700d ago
Even though it's a rumor article. It's been a long while since i've read a good gaming related article on N4G.
xtreampro  +   700d ago
The whole thing is fake, Dualpixels is a site known for making up BS and half the info in the article contradicts everything we know about both consoles.

The constant repetition of the word Omni should have given it away kind of like how a child likes to over use a word he/she really likes or made up.

Leaks never have this much detail, but it also proves that half of you guys on top are either children or have the minds of a 10 year old kid.
Trackboss  +   700d ago
Not true...
Not true. It is known of having a certain audience oh haters who like to believe that. Castlevania and Kingdom Hearts HD remix...
KrisButtar  +   700d ago
backward compatibility through cloud, i would rather it built in, say in a deluxe model or something
Conzul  +   700d ago
Same here.
jukins  +   700d ago
hate to sound like a fanboy but sony's "RUMORED" offering has me most excited. It be intresting if it all comes together with the google eye type thing and true streaming on vita or whatever device. as for nintendo if smash bros semi new kinda direction (aka having a serious fighting game dev make it) turns out good i'll get a wii u. microsoft i'll have to see more and hopefully theres not such a huge focus on second screen. oh well looks like next year should be exciting to say the least.
MegaLagann  +   700d ago
As always, take rumors with a grain of salt. But if it's true, then i'll be a happy Wii U owner. Bayonetta 2, Devil's Third, Darkstalkers IV, Fatal Frame V, Mach Rider & Lord of Vermilion? Yes please. Local arcade has Lord of Vermilion, love that game. Oddly enough, told a friend a while back that Lord of Vermilion would be a perfect fit for the Wii U. Now that's not to say I won't get the other consoles, PS4 sounds fine, and a new Siren game would definitely make me get it at launch. The 720 sounds...boring to be honest. Sorry to people who like the Xbox, that's fine, but I've never been a fan of their exclusives.

I also find it interesting how the PS4/720 is said to be only slightly more powerful than the Wii U (kind of like in the sixth gen where all the consoles were equal in power), and will use services to differentiate themselves. Gee, been saying that for about a year now. E3 2013 is where we'll see the Wii U's true power with games like Bayonetta 2, Retro's game & Smash 4. Next gen looks interesting, and unlike most people here, I hope all three have success, because the industry needs it.
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Tsar4ever  +   700d ago
It a interesting read, But I STILL find it all hard to believe, So to this article, I just say, Hmmm.............
theone26  +   700d ago
LOL the smell of BS in this article is too strong for words. If 720 is 2-3 times more powerful than ps4 than wouldn't that make ps4 only 2x more powerful than a ps3 since a WII U is roughly ps3 in power if not lower LMFAO!!
black911  +   699d ago
Sony didnt win with power with PS1 & PS2
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