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5 Things Sony and Microsoft Can Learn From the Launch of the WiiU

Time will of course tell whether or not the WiiU launch has been successful. It’s barely been 24 hours, and there isn’t anything close to actual data in terms of availability, sales numbers, attach rates, etc. However, in reading a lot of the anecdotal reports from other journalists as well as consumers, it seems as though Nintendo has made some missteps along the way. They have also, however, seemingly done some things right. For better or for worse, these are the 5 things that Sony and Microsoft can learn from the launch of the WiiU.

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decrypt4606d ago (Edited 4606d ago )

If the Wii U is successful, it might motivate Sony and MS not to make the next consoles much of a jump from current gen.

So i guess if Wii U makes good sales, with a cheap system Sony and MS will probably follow suit. Both of them are probably tired taking initial losses. The will instead design cheap cost effective hardware, so they may profit day one.

RivetCityGhoul4606d ago

what in the hell are you even talking about? nintendo said they are taking a loss on wii U, so nintendo is gonna influence Sony & MS to take a loss on a loss they are already taking. you know how much sense that makes? NONE.....

darthv724606d ago

relax...I get what decrypt is trying to type. Didnt convey it properly but it is quite simple. effectively, the wii-u is the evolution of the wii. It offer upgraded visuals and specs but those were not the key to the system. It was the new controller and the idea behind integrating the whole app world people have been doing for years on the go but now in a console.

Okay, long part out of the way. what decrypt was eluding to would be that the new ps4/720 would not be the obvious super jumps in tech like we have come to expect with each console generation. What we would likely see are simple yet effective improvements to the hardware but the main focus would be about adding more functionality to the new platforms.

i mean, playing games, yeah we get it. its been that way since pong. These new systems would not take away that ability by any means but add more to it. Both sony and Ms have been finding ways to extend the relevancy by changing things around like the new ui on the 360 and adding in all these video apps and a new store on the ps3.

both are examples of the direction they 'may' take in the future. both are currently test subjects for whats to come. So the changes would in effect be more about the features which would (could) cost less while the improved hardware would not cost an arm and a leg thus resulting is a more cost effective and more robust (feature wise) platform.

on a side note, we know that the 360 and ps3 still have more to give but due to constraints like memory limits (ps3) and capacity issues (360) we arent seeing what these platforms are really capable of. It would not surprise me in the least if sony were to revise their ps4 as a ps3.5 with much more ram and a tweaked design to improver overall performance. And MS and the 720 be a 360-ish in terms of ease of development but use a more capacity format as well as much improved ram and cpu/gpu performance.

sdtarm4606d ago

did the author of this article seriously said that zombiU was dark souls-esque... like fucking shit this guy can't be any more wrong

Legend_Killer4606d ago

Another ignorant comment. Sigh! Do u know Nintendo is running at loss on the Wii U? So what's this cheap hardware and day one profit u're talking about?

ronin4life4606d ago

The fact they are taking a loss actually makes his statement MORE relevent...
If Nintendo is losing money with wiiu, can you imagine how much more a massive machine would lose?

Nefario64606d ago

Sony is a Boss. Wait and see!

IWentBrokeForGaming4606d ago

Sony on the technical side of things have been showing the competition how to build a console from the get go, almost every iteration of their consoles we get!

miyamoto4605d ago

True!
After a quarrel with my girl my PSP 3000 got thrown down the stairwell from the 2nd floor and landed on ceramic tiles flooring with the battery, covers, memory card, UMD flying all over the place....and to my shock, after putting it back together, this damn thing is still working as of today.

OT
Wii U: 12.8GB/s maximum speed

Not good.
No way M$ or Sony will cheap out that way

Xbox360: 22.4 GB/s + eDRAM for framebuffer
PS3: 25.6 GB/s main memory BW + 22.4 GB/s graphics memory BW, no eDRAM

andrewsqual4606d ago (Edited 4606d ago )

They don't need to learn anything. Microsoft and Sony launched their 7th generation consoles 7 and 6 years ago. If anything Nintendo didn't learn anything from them.
NO BUILT IN HARD DRIVE?
The 8gb basic console only has around 3gbs of useable space. That is almost worse than the Core 360 but at least you could get the normal hard drive (at extortionate prices though) separate and connect it as a real hard drive and not through a USB port and this was in 2005.
Holy crap they fucked up big time. And this has to last the next 5 to 6 years? Developers are screwed having to design their games on a console they have to assume has no room for caching info on locally.
Okay they can learn something, don't have a 5gb download day 1. Day 1 when everybody is trying to get such a massive update all at once on your brand new service.

dark-hollow4606d ago

1- you can get any HDD up to 2TB.
2- the patch is not 5gb.

Da One4606d ago

You're right it's not 5gb....but good luck downloading with all the f**ing error codes :)

My wii-u still hasn't updated....Ninja Gaiden Razor Edge is really good though.

Donnieboi4606d ago

Yeah but that's just more money spent just trying to complete an incomplete product; A product that is barely better than cheaper current gen consoles (that have more games and more userbase).

Wii U is just plain underwhelming as a sales pitch in my eyes.

Grimhammer004606d ago

It's been confirmed by MS themselves that the 720 leak was legit. So the new Xbox will be 8gb of ram! And not slow DDR like wiiu crapfest of a console!

So tell me. How is ninny going to compete? With 1gb of useable ram! And the price for 720 has also been confirmed. $299

Ninny is screwed.

Dubaman4606d ago

RAM makes or breaks a console? Here's me still thinking we were on about BITS...my my how times change..oh wait..

Donnieboi4606d ago

Microsoft confirmed it? Link, or it never happened

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‘I think Xbox hardware is dead’, says Microsoft gaming veteran

One of the founding members of the Xbox team has questioned Microsoft’s multiplatform gaming strategy, and said they believe the Xbox hardware business is effectively “dead"

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Goodguy011d 2h ago

Think that rumor that they'll still make a new console but at a profit at $1000 will be true though. The series consoles will remain their cheap alternative throughout next gen I would say. Keep in mind that game pass and pretty much going 3rd party is their main focus. They want to bring xbox everywhere.

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GamerRN6h ago

If they don't maintain some kind of console presence, I think they will lose gamepass subscribers and just become a 3rd party publisher who eventually sells everything off

Cacabunga5h ago

Xbox games are releasing on all platforms. Who needs this hardware? PS or PC is all you need

Flewid6384h ago

I've never owned an Xbox in my life and I have GamePass.

thorstein2h ago

The only Xbox I owned was the 360. I have gamepass for my PC.

crazyCoconuts4h ago

Even if they could get it down to $800 for a box that can run with comparable performance to a PS6 (at, say $200 cheaper) the population of people willing to buy such a thing would be so limited.
It would be the worst of both worlds.

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Futureshark15h ago

A slow, painful and public death too.

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While Layoffs Hit the Industry, Nintendo Retains 98% of Staff Including 78 With Disabilities

TNS: Based on its most recent ESG data, Nintendo boasts a remarkably low staff turnover rate of just 1.9%, with virtually no reported layoffs.

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Jin_Sakai2d ago

Because Nintendo makes great games.

Yesyes1d 2h ago

It’s unreal that people are downvoting this when they consistently have the best scoring games on metacritic.

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rlow11d 21h ago

Well it doesn’t surprise me. As much money as they make and how they value their employees. It’s a great company in that regard.

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drivxr1d 18h ago

Well, when your games remain full price many years after release.

And you make profit off of outdated hardware.

I would be shocked if they couldn't afford to retain their staff.

lodossrage1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I didn't want to say anything but drivxr is right.

Nintendo always sells at a profit because they purposely use tech that's always 5 or more years behind. And it's also true their games hardly ever get price decreases.

Don't get me wrong, it's great they kept most of their workforce, but making a point to have your tech specs behind everyone else affords that luxury.

Darkegg1d 13h ago

I don’t think it’s their purpose to use old tech. It’s their purpose to make value of software and know their value. Nobody makes games like them that’s for sure. I just don’t appreciate their customer unfriendly policy.

It’s not impossible to take their status. Companies need to have a selection of 8-bit and 16-bit. Now imagine a split screen for 8 player game for SNES Mario kart and selling at $9.99. The problem is that it doesn’t make profit. So many companies won’t invest in “old” technology. Everyone guns for triple AAA modern technology software but honestly we can enjoy modernized 16-bit creative ideas that allows 8-player mayhem. It’s a pipe dream, possible but impossible.

Shane Kim1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

If they ended up kicking people out after all of that stated above, it would be truly shameful.

DivineHand1251d 9h ago

Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Tesla and Meta are all trillion dollar companies yet they are laying people off in large numbers.

I believe the reason Nintendo layoffs off less workers may be a result of their culture. It seems Japanese companies believe in giving their workers long term or life long employment opportunities and will exhaust all options before laying off workers. This is something we don't see much of in the west unfortunately.

Rdeal1d 3h ago

might be something to do with the fact all those companies hire more than 20x the employees than Nintendo

LoveSpuds1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

What the hell are you talking about? It has nothing to do with how profitable they are. Its completely cultural, MS and Sony make stacks of cash and still lay folks off. Nintendo chose not to lay off staff for the same reason their execs took pay cuts to increase staff pay instead; because they value their staff and view them as colleagues, and respect them as such.

If Sony weren't so US centric I fancy they'd fare better too, they should get shot of US and European leadership and go back to when Japanese execs were running the show if you ask me!

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils2d ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent751d 8h ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils1d ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai3d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning773d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher2d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor2d ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde2d ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z1d 16h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey861d 11h ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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