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GDC: Microsoft has Worked on VR 'For Quite a While'

During a conversation about virtual reality technology at the Game Developers Conference, Microsoft Game Studios' Phil Spencer said "I think the technology is really interesting, and it’s definitely something we’ve been playing with for quite a while."

Irishguy953688d ago

Would expect them have too, same with Sony. VR is the future. Always has been. After VR comes brainwave VR.

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darthv723688d ago

VR has been something that has been toyed with for 20+ years by various companies. Looking at the tech then and now there has been huge advancements in making it not only better but more cost effective.

Hatsune-Miku3688d ago

This would put further strain on the xbox one that is already stretch thin trying to run games at 720p. VR with two 480i glasses wouldn't be good at all but I'm sure fanat-X would love to buy it.

christocolus3688d ago (Edited 3688d ago )

@Hatsune

Why are you so biased? You are in every xbx article with nothing reasonable to say? Dont you get tired of talking crap? If MS does release a VR headset im sure xbx fans would go ahead and buy it just as Ps fans would buy morpheus...so why the name calling? Its funny how some guys can have so much bias towards the choice of others.

MelvinTheGreat3688d ago

@hatsune

Whats you're deal dude? How bout you stop taking it up the butt from sony and be glad and happy theres competition between the two companies.

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Volkama3688d ago

Phil spencer is quite right that convincing the masses to wear a headset is a challenge though. Look at stereoscopic 3D and the Hugh push within the TV industry to get glasses-free 3D working.

I don't think something like illumiroom or anything projecting images on your walls can be as immersive or high quality though.

Such a cool time for the games industry right now.

morganfell3688d ago

Microsoft and VR looks like a nice idea for some but then ESRAM rears it's ugly head.

Bandwidth, or rather the lack of it will haunt the X1 this entire generation.

FriedGoat3688d ago

@morganfell

Dunno why you're getting disagrees, The XBone is really going to struggle to output 2 720P images.

malokevi3687d ago

I imagine MS will go the AR glasses, as pet their "Fortaleza" patents.

The way I see it, they stopped working on Illumaroom because they realized that they could achieve the same effect with image-overlay using AR. They would also be cheaper than a full headset, and would augment the TV rather then replace it.

Remains to be seen. For now, I'm happy gaming on my TV. If morpheus turns out well, is well supported, and isn't overly expensive, I'm sure I'll end up getting one.

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AngelicIceDiamond3688d ago

I bet VR will be cool and very unique but like I said I just want to play on a controller at the end of the day.

I just hope its not forced on us.

Muffins12233688d ago

Your still useing a controler,its not like wii or kinect,its a different way of seeing the game. ITs like going from pixels to polygons.

MorePowerOfGreen3688d ago

We already knew this. Seen this in the 2010 leaked docs almost 2 years ago. MSFT will obviously see if the tech flops due to its novelty and if successful, go big as they always do. Kinect 2.0 would be the only thing that would make this tech mainstream.

Eonjay3688d ago

That is a catch 22 you are describing. You said that they would join in if it doesn't flop and you said that only Kinect can keep it from flopping. There is no way to reconcile these opposing situations.

christocolus3688d ago

@morepower

My guess is that MS will go ahead with their VR plans irrespective of what Sony and Oculus are doing. Theyve been working on similar tech for some years now i.e fortazella and illumiroom..its just a matter of when now.

@majiebeast

Huh? You are funny.....lmao.

corvusmd3688d ago (Edited 3688d ago )

Exactly, MS has always been an innovative console company, that's why we now have Broadband, Achievements, Motion controllers, Massive dedicated server support, cloud computing and, game streaming as a mainstay. I'm sure MS will/is doing this right. They don't need to worry about anyone else. I like the AR aspect the seem to be taking...kinda like including the "illumniroom aspect into VR

Pay no mind to maji...based on his/her comments they're clearly new to gaming and lost as to what the facts are.

@fireseed. To be fair, Sony did originate the idea of massive network hacks and charging $50 a year for "free" games.

BlueTemplar3688d ago

@Corvusmd

You're crediting Microsoft with Broadband? Really?

I Know the original Xbox had a ethernet connection, but come on - do you really think the other platforms would be stuck in 1999 otherwise?

Also, motion controllers?? I think you're crediting the wrong company. Game streaming too.

Amazing.

ToxicSushi3688d ago

@BlueTemplar
Sega Dreamcast had a NIC add on module vs. the modem module. Now that was a technological machine ahead of its time :-)

johndoe112113688d ago

What the hell does kinect have to do with virtual reality???? Does oculus have kinect? Is that the logic you're using to justify that piece of sh!t accessory???

beerzombie3688d ago

Yes it dose it had to use a camera for motion tracking to be better. That's were the Kinect will be a plus because everyone has one not 20% percent like the ps4 which by all standards is freaking great.
also Ps4 will either have to bundle a camera that will raise the price where X1 can just sell the Vr cheaper because everyone has a camera.

MusicComposer3687d ago

@beerzombie The Kinect 2 refresh rate is only 30hz which is too slow to be used in VR. The PS4 camera by comparison is 60hz at 720p and is 120hz at 480p. It seems like Microsoft is pursuing AR instead of VR though.

majiebeast3688d ago

Microsoft the me too company.

MelvinTheGreat3688d ago

Its not like VR has been done before....oh wait it has...that means...sonys is copying too *gasp*

BG115793688d ago

Oh yeah, everyone remembers the Virtual Boy.

Old McGroin3688d ago

@ BG11579

Or a more recent example, Oculus Rift.

beerzombie3688d ago (Edited 3688d ago )

I think Sega and Nintendo did some of this too.

specialguest3687d ago

I've done it first before those companies. Made both hands shaped like a binocular and put it against my eyes and BAM! instant VR.

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Fireseed3688d ago

Oh totally, why do they always have to copy Sonys HYPER ORIGINAL ideas...
Like Morphe... Ohhh Oculus...
Oh I know Mov... Oh Wii (Also know by Sony as the "lollipop")...
Oh wait I got it Trophi... Oh achievements...
Hmm

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Fireseed3688d ago

@gulash

My point being, everything is iterative.... and yes I'd accept that MS probably took that from Spyro. Along with a lot of others things, but that's how we get advancement.

MazzingerZ3688d ago (Edited 3688d ago )

Achievements and the whole XBL concepts and features for the X360 are rather taken from Bungie's MP ideas in Halo 2, including voice messages.

Bungie created XBL, it's amazing how after all that partnership Bungie kept free after all that, one must respect their ideals of being an independent developer.

Microsoft paid for XBL so I guess we can't call it copied, Bungie was behind it, but yeah, MSFT has mostly been the company that purchase others ideas and I have nothing against that if that help to make things better and reach more people.

You can't blame on everything on the buyer as there's also a seller, those buys out motivates small companies to innovate and someday make big money from that, so innovation is still on the picture, just not from big companies.

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

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Gazondaily3688d ago (Edited 3688d ago )

@grim

what?? Oh please. That's some desperate spinning. A system wide system of achievements that is universal snd tracks your achievements and logs them online is the same as Spyro thr Dragon's skill point system?? Aha okay. Yeah because MS looked at that and came up wjth their system.

My days are some people delusional.

But MS are copying Sony with VR right?? Lol look at the double standards.

starchild3688d ago (Edited 3688d ago )

@grimlash

You're really grasping at straws there. I mean, that is a huge and absurd stretch. The idea of earning things in games goes much farther back than Spiro. Microsoft was the first one to systematize it across their entire ecosystem in all of their games and to have them all add up towards an online "gamerscore". Give credit where credit is due.

Edit: Haha it looks like Septic beat me to it by a couple minutes.

Angeljuice3688d ago

@Fireseed
Thought I'd make a few corrections to improve the accuracy of your bodged points;

" Oh I know Mov... Oh Wii" .....OH EYETOY (THE ORIGINAL)

" Like Morphe...(began 2010) Ohhh Oculus...(began 2011-2012)"

No need to thank me, it's a free service.

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Old McGroin3688d ago (Edited 3688d ago )

@ majiebeast

Sony is more of a "me too" company in many ways, they just do it a bit more stealthily. They see what new ideas are being implemented by other companies, gauge how the public reacts and then once everything has blown over, implement the exact same ideas themselves. Examples are the VR headset (Oculus), the Move controller (Nintendo Wii Controller), PS4 TV shows/capabilities (Xbox One TV Shows/capabilities), streaming games (Gaikai/Onlive), PSP/Vita (Nintendo handhelds), remote gaming on the Vita (Wii U remote gaming), Trophies (Xbox Achievements) and the list goes on. Maybe they should actually just change their name to Me Too altogether.

goldwyncq3688d ago

If last gen was the motion control gen, this gen would be the VR gen.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7212h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

purple1011h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac38m ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad23m ago(Edited 22m ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1012m ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 9h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 6h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 3h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN21h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo22h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies18h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 6h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic16h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9016h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 8h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 7h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 4h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 7h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 6h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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