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Pach-Attack: Will Titanfall 2 Be Xbox Exclusive?

"Michael Pachter humors the thought of EA’s profit deal with Microsoft continuing onto sequels."

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Kingthrash3603709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

doubt it...if anything a mass effect type thing will happen.
ms needs this to be a x1 only exclusive. i dont think that would ever happen. the more popular the game gets the more a 3rd party dev is gunna want it on as many consoles as possible.. in fact if they want to beat cod in sales they NEED multiplat.
before the weirdos begin with the 'fanboy' this and that i could really care less if it is or not. i'm just speaking from a business perspective and all signs point to multiplat asap. respawn dont work for ea or ms and they have the most control over the game so i thing multi will come.

RyuCloudStrife3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

doubt it, but I really don't want 2 CoD's a year on PS4...

admiralvic3709d ago

"but I really don't want 2 CoD's a year on PS4..."

Don't you mean 3, since isn't CoD and BF* pretty much that already?

JetsFool35003708d ago

@admiral if you think cod & bf are the same you obviously dont play one of the 2

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TFJWM3708d ago

Why would you care? Just don't buy them...

diehllane3708d ago

@admiral,

BF doesn't come out yearly and it likely NEVER will.

I doubt Titanfall would end up as a yearly franchise either... I could see every other year though.

Dmagic3708d ago

@ryucloudstrife owwww look out everyone we got a cool ass here complaining about receiving games he doesnt play or buy anyways :/ .

badz1493708d ago

the answer to this question will be revealed once the game is released. if it's doing less than spectacular (honestly I doubt it will) and by that I mean, selling at about 5 mil or so, (I know 5 mil is a lot but considering the hype and the amount of money thrown by both MS and EA into it, 5 mil might not be enough), there is a fat chance even the 1st Titanfall won't stay exclusive.

but even with that, we wouldn't know because MS is now basically giving away the game to new XbOne owners! either you like Titanfall or not, getting it for free with a new XbOne is tempting if you have the slightest interest in the XbOne to begin with.

I honestly think that there is a catch in the deal between MS and EA over Titanfall exclusivity that there is a certain sales target needed to be achieve or the deal is off. it's the only logical explanation I can think of regarding the recent price cut and code giveaway for new owners. one doesn't simply give away a game touted as "system seller", "most anticipated game of 2014" and "biggest exclusive of 2014" if nothing is on the line!

as far as this exclusivity deal is concerned, I think it's a do or "forget it!" thing for MS.

Giul_Xainx3708d ago

Let me roll my 20....

Up... Natural 1.... looks like it won't be exclusive to the Xbox anymore.

mcstorm3708d ago

I think it will stay Xbox and pc only. One thing people forget is there around 80 million 360's out there and if Titan fall can become a hit on the 360 as well as do well on the Xbox one people will look to move from the 360 to Xbox one as titan fall 2 would be a Xbox one game not a 360 game.

This could work out well for both ea and Microsoft in the end abit like gears did for epic and Microsoft.

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TomShoe3709d ago

I doubt it.

Keep in mind that EA made this deal back pre-E3, when it was assumed that Xbox was going to dominate the United States and this generation. This was also supposed to be a timed exclusive (Probably about 6 months, like PvZ: Garden Warfare).

After the E3 fallout, Microsoft hastily made a deal with EA for the lifetime, behind the back of Respawn. Zampella didn't seem too happy about that being done without his knowledge.

Because of how this gen has gone so far, I doubt EA is going to turn away from a larger install base, a greater chance of profits, and the potential to have an FPS title that can rival Call of Duty. For people that say Microsoft should just buy Respawn itself or the IP, Zampella is already rich himself, and one of the reasons he left Activision is because he didn't want to be bullied by another big-name publisher.

It could happen, but now that Titanfall is an established brand, I think that it's doubtful at best, especially since Sony isn't sitting on their hands either, rumors said that they're working on bringing it to PS as well.

_FantasmA_3708d ago

Titanfail's an established brand? Oh really. Its not even yet, its sold 0 copies, it hasn't been reviewed yet, it probably won't hold the attention of the M$ casuals once Destiny, The Division, Call of Duty, and other shooters come out.

xDHAV0K24x3708d ago

Microsoft wouldnt "bully" them the way Activision did. Titanfall wouldnt be a yearly release. That right there removes all the stress and bs.

BlackPrince 423708d ago

@XDHAV0K24x

Huh?

Microsoft's relationship with it's internal devs is mixed to bad. Bungie left, Rare is in shambles. Black Tusk just got saddled with Gears instead of being allowed to work on its own project (so much for new IPs from Microsoft). 343i was just made to continue milking Halo. And who even knows what's going on with Lionhead.

If I'm Zampella I'd want to work with Sony, or Ubisoft, or 2K, one of those publishers that takes risks and isn't a afraid to lose money on a good idea.

Kayant3708d ago

The only way I see this happening is if the Xbox division can justify paying 300+ million to get it exclusive again because you have to remember TF is considered one of EA's new mega franchises in rotation with BF and star wars and if EA is thinking of getting COD money especially with Activision now having destiny that could be huge as well and is available on most platforms they would need the playstation userbase from PS4 and PS3 and with the PS4 currently leading also it's not going to be easy for MS.

I think what will happen in the end is a COD situation of DLC first to Xbox platforms.

morganfell3708d ago

"Microsoft wouldnt "bully" them the way Activision did."

Ahem. Why do you think Bungie wanted out from under their thumb? Why do you think so many good Bungie people left the dev team they loved? MS doesn't handle teams they way Sony does. This isn't like ND where no one outside the company tells them what to do.

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Lifendz3708d ago

If EA's smart, it won't be. PS4 is going to own this generation barring a massive Xbone price cut. So if EA wants this to challenge COD, they BETTER make it available on every platform.

xDHAV0K24x3708d ago

So they admit defeat with battlefield? Now that there will be 3 COD's, will they want to have a 3 diff shooters to catch up with sales? Assuming TF goes multi, they would still need one more shooter.

Lifendz3707d ago

Admit defeat? No. BF is a shooter, but it plays nothing like COD. TF and COD are more aligned in terms of play style (for obvious reasons) and, therefore, more likely to have the same fan base.

showtimefolks3708d ago

sooner or later TF will end up on ps4. Respawn actually didn't want to do the exclusive but EA went behind their backs. Also respawn own the IP so for TitanFall 2 they can go with a different publisher if they choose to

i still believe TF will be on ps4 in 6-12 months under a new name at the end, something like TF GOTY edition or something. And before i get countless replies saying its a 100% exclusive for xbox brand than i will simple ask, will a developer or publisher confirm a exclusive game for another console? wouldn't that be counterproductive for MS? let's say EA or respawn say TF will be on PS3/PS4 in 6 months, meaning people don't have to rush and buy an xbox console to play it.

but we will see days of 3rd party exclusives are dead. There is a reason MS bought gears of war IP, because no matter what Epic owned it and could have done whatever they wanted with it

so unless MS is publishing TF than its a 3rd party game meaning other consoles are possibilities

Chevalier3708d ago

Ninja Gaiden was published by microsoft, didn't stop Ninja Gaiden Sigma on ps3. They could just have 1080 P and 30 fps and call the upgrade Titan Fall Theta or whatever and it could still come out on PS4 because Respawn own the IP.

Maml073708d ago

i think we have to play tf first then we have to think about tf2... lol
patcher is crazy man

Baccra173708d ago

Don't see why EA can't pull a Demon Souls. Everyone knows that Demon Souls is Dark Souls. They could easily make a game with another name that everyone would know is actually "Titan Fall" but isn't.

sinspirit3708d ago

@mcstorm

Obviously, any exclusive would benefit the console maker..

The point is that Titanfall doesn't need XBox. XBox needs Titanfall. Titanfall has grown popular and easily would make up for whatever Microsoft would pay for its exclusivity. Even if the projected sales on other platforms wasn't much more than what Microsoft would pay for it they wouldn't miss out on getting more publicity for the game.

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WalterWJR3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

No one will be getting it if the game does not make up for all the Millions they already spent tricking people into thinking this boring game is going to actually be good.

Beta -

Kill Drone with 1 bullet.
Repeat *20.
Die to stray Human.
Game over.

Neckbear3709d ago

Wow, it looks like you need to

GIT GUD

WalterWJR3709d ago

GIT GUD at killing mindless bots, no thanks.

IAmSovereign3708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

WalterWJR doesn't understand the purpose of the bots. I feel like nobody does.

People see them and think you're supposed to kill them and keep your focus on them. You aren't. Their AI is terrible on purpose because their purpose is cannon fodder and nothing more. You're running by them to a chokepoint, 20-25 bullets and you cleared out a group, and probably shaved 40 seconds off your titan drop time. Everyone saying you can't find players is just nutty. I was one of the biggest opponents of the AI. But I understand the need for them now. They're like the minions in LoL. They aren't there to challenge you, only to supply you with some gold because gold = solid lead against your enemy.

Kingthrash3603708d ago

smh, then why even have them? game would be even more epic if at least 8v8 pvp, no minions. wtf i need a minion in a fps? LoL is a rpg. tf is a fps. if they are here to stay let them be smarter, let them be able to take commands or something useful..cannon fodder is just another word for moving targets. they are no fun and uesless remove them or fix the ai..this game is better off without them imo.
i cant wait for the reviews..i hope they dont overlook the many flaws this game has...and i aint talking bots.

IAmSovereign3708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

@kingthrash

With titans on the field so often, 8v8 would be too much. Minions are a gameplay element that seems to work and LoL isn't an RPG, its a MOBA. Totally different. I can see your limited understanding of the gameplay mechanic. You honestly want the AI smarter? You want them to be able to clear you out with ease? There is quite a few of them on the field.

The game will do well without you, I'm sure. I understand the need to dislike Titanfall. I hate the thought that I may be supporting Microsoft in any way by purchasing this game, but it is undeniably a good game. It just faces an uphill battle because of everyone like you who love to hate.

Kingthrash3603708d ago

i never said i didn't like tf....just because i see tf for what it is dosent mean i dislike it. i wish the game didnt have bots, is my opinion. but to say i dislike the game is inaccurate.

play bf4...everyone rolls a tank or heli or jet...available from jump and its epic. a tank is dominate but there are plenty of ways to take it down..may not be easy but its not hard either. tf would be similar....'cept they can't destroy ANYTHING other than other titans...so just run in a house and shoot missiles at it...spin all you want but bots are unnecessary

sinspirit3708d ago

@IAmSovereign

Right, and we don't need gimmicky AI to become something to boast about for a game.

Everyone understands the purpose of bots. It's just that they are so terrible and out of place in a FPS. Why would they throw terrible AI in, boast about it being part of the cloud, and only have them for working towards one thing in a game, which is to call a Titan. There are such better ways to go about it. If they got rid of the AI then it wouldn't be much different results. They just want to make up for the lack of player amount.

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FanboyKilla3708d ago

Ummmmmmm people have played the game, let them make their own decision. I heard them say its awesome. Why are sony fans asking about titanfall 2 cooming to ps4 if the first one sucks so bad. And how would that be a big deal anyway? The other console already has it. So if i own a xone what would putting it on ps4 do for me. As far as install base theories, 360, xone, and pc equal waaaaaaaay more than ps4 at the moment. Respawn and ea will be fine. Titanfall overshadowing everything at the moment. Sony cant get any attention right now. Thats why they are showing lil vids of that work in progress called the order 1886. Who cares about that, its months away? Isnt infamous launching in march? No ones talking about that. I wonder why? No i dont i know why.

corvusmd3708d ago

EXACTLY...the sad thing is that about 50% of the rumors about Infamous and Order are that they are forgettable and broken...and there is some actual fear that they won't be quality games when they release. Hopefully time will allow these games to be refined, they both LOOK gorgeous, but hopefully the final touches make them play well too (BTW where are all the fanboys that were complaining about QTE in Ryse and Gears of War whenever they talk about Order now?).
It's so seethrough...Sony fanboys are so scared of Titanfall, anyone that says that they hate the AI, or that it's just COD with Mechs, and that it will suck (but should come to PS4) is just clearly and insecure fanboy...no way around it, sorry. They either haven't played it, or they did get a taste and they are mad that the first actual "true to hype" next gen game ISN'T on the "gamers console". No matter how much they say "na uh" the fact that EVERY Titanfall article just gets trolled over and over with the same mindless junk from people that have clearly never played it, just proves the point.

I also love how sony fanboys act that Zampella is pissed that it's an XB1 exclusive, that's an assumption...in the same tweet he also said that MS have been wonderful partners...the sad face emoticon could have just been "sorry bout that". They will be fine with PC, 360, and XB1...if a gamer doesn't own one of the 3, they aren't a gamer. If he was trully pissed, he would have said much more than an emoticon. Not to mention that if EA could have done that, they can do it again...that means they own it. It just seems odd that Respawn ALWAYS has nothing but wonderful things to say about MS and how they approached Sony and MS about making this game, and Sony couldn't provide a solution....but MS could, and yet because of one frowny face...Zampella hates MS and feels stabbed in the back. Seems like some people are just assuming too much, the only guy that actually knows is Vince.

LeCreuset3708d ago

Wow. If Sony can't get any attention right now, I'd hate to see what sales are going to look like when Sony does start getting attention.

SniperControl3708d ago

@Fanboykilla

"As far as install base theories, 360, xone, and pc equal waaaaaaaay more than ps4 at the moment"

Ok, using your theory.

As far as install base theories, PS3, PS4 and PC equal waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than X1 at the moment.

Call yourself a fan boy killa...oh the irony.

SpinalRemains1383708d ago

Titanfall is overshadowing nothing.

No matter how hard you try or how much you hope, PS4 is still annihilating sales records and setting a new standard.

A FPS will not change that.

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Kingthrash3603708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

mabad wrong reply.

CrossingEden3708d ago

Spoken like someone who is very bad at the game and never figured out that focusing on minions instead of humans is the quick way to get yourself killed, hint:bigger dots on the map=humans
I wouldn't even be surprised if you didn't play it with that logic.

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Gamer-403709d ago

I think yes. MS not a stupid, and money talk.

iamnsuperman3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

It isn't up to Microsoft really. It's EA. Also do you really think Microsoft are stupid enough to pay that much for it (talking a hell of a lot of money here with what return?). EA will be asking a lot since the install base of its competitor should be quite large by that point

loulou3709d ago

@superman

it all depends just how well this works out. but i get the feeling that if titanfall does well, then EA will be asking well over 200m for it to remain exclusive... maybe even upwards of 300m.

for the disagrees, yes i am basing my calcs on EA taking $30 for each copy sold.

so if EA say to ms "we estimate 8m sales on ps platforms, you need to pay us 240m" or they could even estimate more.

ms imo would be better off offering R* half a billion for gta exclusivity lol

Gamer-403709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

MS buy this new FPS IP. 100%.
And You are simply envious because the game does not come Ps4.

Go play, Infamous, Knack, and nice but very boring KZ.

Titanfall 1 and second not coming Ps4. This 99%.

@iamnsuperman

Ok, but I say, Titanfall MS new FPS IP, and not coming PS console, and many PS fanboy's say it always, how many exclusive games there will be PS4, why Titanfall interests this much then? Interesting.

iamnsuperman3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

@Gamer40

No. I am not really interested in Titanfall since I get bored of multiplayer shooters quite quickly. I buy the more story oriented games because that is what I like.

That aside I commented not out of "jealousy" but pointing out how unlikely Microsoft will pay for Titanfall. If Titanfall becomes as big as the hype suggests they simple could not justify the asking price that EA will ask. Titanfall 1 will never come to the PS4 (we know that). Titanfall 2 will because Microsoft and EA have to make money to make a deal worthy. So Microsoft would have to supply the funding for the lost sales EA would have by not releasing on the PS4 (and in three years that will be a lot of units). Your talking a lot here. Look at the price for COD and BF timed DLC exclusive. Sony and Microsoft paid a fortune for that and that was only DLC. Think about it

Kingthrash3603709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

lol @ gamer
stay on topic please .

think of 2 things..install base and 3rd parties like ea.
if money was gunna win an exclusive then why not buy cod or bf or gta.
tf is a hugly hyped game and respawn needs it under their belts like rockstar, ea, iw, and square. smh fanboys kill me sometimes...tf isnt a exclusive and never will be.
man and imo after playing tf its an above average fps game. not as special as the hype makes it out to be.

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fermcr3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

"Pach-Attack: Will Titanfall 2 Be Xbox Exclusive?"

Probably. Sony fanboys have said over and over they are not interested in the game, so why release the game on the PS4/PS3?

Just kidding! Now seriously, I doubt Titanfall 2 will be exclusive... but if the game is as big as Gears, Microsoft will probably pay for it to continue exclusive or even a timed exclusive.

Hicken3709d ago

Blanket statements always make people look so silly.

Will the sequel contain only the things that make people not want the first? Are they just gonna change up some maps and Titans, slap a "2" on the end of the title, and call it a day?

Or will they expand and improve, and add things that may draw in more buyers? Hell, you act as if the same people it's catering to on Xbox- largely the Call of Duty crowd- don't exist in some capacity on the PS4.

MASTER_RAIDEN3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

lol wow what a pathetic, stealth-troll post.
because all the respawn devs gather in a room and read the n4g comments section from "sony fanboys" right? or do you think its respawn not releasing it is more about punishing those big bad awful fanboys who talk bad about da titanfawlll gamezzz?!?

video games are a multibillion dollar business. video game developers are talented people who enjoy exploring different platforms/possibilities. nobody gives a crap what "fanboys" of any kind have to say about anything. the fact that you think your little blog comments make a difference is hilarious. or the fact that you think respawn would be on "xbox's side" because of "sony fanboys and their comments"-- also hilarious. grow up.

Eonjay3709d ago

You're absolutely correct. I can almost guarantee that TF2 (thank GOD we can abbreviate it now) will be multiplatform. When you make business decisions you need to look at the numbers and leave fanboyism at the door. The more successful the game is, the more money EA is losing. Every EA game on the Xbox One has been more profitable on the PS4. Therefore, any Xbox One sales of Titanfall would at least be doubled if EA was on PS4 as well.

MASTER_RAIDEN3709d ago

i dont think so. not that ms isnt good with keeping their exclusives, but there have just been so many 360 exclusives that eventually made their way to ps3. i owuldnt be surprised if 1 series (which the developer has already admitted, is not an exclusive trilogy) made its way to the ps4.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7220h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18814h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio4h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga6h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21836h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga5h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan54m ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

purple1019h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos9h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac8h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic6h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 17h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 14h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 11h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 5h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 6h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 2h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 14h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 16h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 15h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 12h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 15h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 14h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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