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X1 DRM Issues Still A Threat? X1 User Reports Not Being Able To Access System Settings After Ban

Xbox One DRM worries arise, after a string of foreboding circumstances force everyone into rampant speculation, after gamer Moonlightswami tweets about his Xbox One ban.

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Yo Mama3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

Wow! So Microsoft can lock you from playing offline or even accessing the system options if you're banned? Now I understand why the PS4 version of Ghosts says "offline play enabled". M$ just refuses to relinquish any control over a console we, the customer, legitimately bought.

RyuCloudStrife3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

Nothing is holding Microsoft from going back to the true vision they originally had for the Xbox One.

This just proves that Microsoft's ill will towards the consumers is still there, I can see the Xbox One we knew as of April coming back within a year or two...

And Kinect is forced upon you to gather information on everything you do. Wake up.

Eonjay3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

Thats not DRM... thats Microsoft having too much damn power over something that you purchased. They shut his whole system the eff down.

I don't think they have the the right to do that. It's his property so if they want to stop him from going on line then fine but this skynet crap needs to stop.

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AsimLeonheart3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

Microsoft is really stumbling out of the gate and falling on its face with this launch. There isn't a singe positive news for the console and every negative rumour eventually turns out to be true. Actually, they were never interested in gaming to begin with. Xbox and gaming were only a trojan horse for them.

http://www.theverge.com/201...

This gen they were looking to deliver the finishing blow and complete their plan that began more than a decade ago but they failed because of consumer outcry or at least were delayed for now. I shudder at the thought of what horrors MS have planned for gaming and what they would do if they were left to their own devices.

4Sh0w3819d ago

Nobodys blind they are just sensible, this is flamebait thats it. This guy doesn't even care and hasnt said a word since he signed a NDA, so all this hyperbole is just propaganda with no valid substance. The console is not released and a mistake on Targets part doesn't give anyone the right to play before the street date. If we were having the discussion on the 22nd it would be valid until then its just fanboy nonsense by the same old flamebait anti micrsoft sites like cinemablend and the very same n4g microsoft haters, I wonder why maybe because sony hasnt shown anything worthwhile you guys have nothing to do but nitpick X1, sad really ps4 launches very soon yet the ps hive mind main focus by far is X1, jealous much.

imt5583819d ago

Albert Penello on GAF :

For sure this has nothing to do with requiring a connection. There is no "DRM removal" in the Day One update because none of the consoles were ever built with that stuff in it.

WHY DAY ONE UPDATE THEN????

DeadlyFire3819d ago

Why is Microsoft doing this? Well its before the launch date that's why. They think they can hold all their gamers back until launch day it will be more memorable or perhaps they don't have all their servers running yet. The bans are temporary supposedly. To me if you lock me out of a new car I just bought for a few weeks. It seems like I would be more pissed off at you than anything. Seems to me like Nintendo and Microsoft are stumbling all over themselves to sell their products while Sony walks on stage and smiles.

@ above. Why Day one Update?
Because they are rushing it to market!! As always. So they left off some software in the first batch of consoles.

Shad0wRunner3819d ago

@imt558

Albert Penello on GAF :

For sure this has nothing to do with requiring a connection. There is no "DRM removal" in the Day One update because none of the consoles were ever built with that stuff in it.

WHY DAY ONE UPDATE THEN????

That is an outright LIE! Microsoft said themselves, earlier in the year, that there would be a day one update to disable DRM and all of the old policy features. This is why people have been saying "If you can turn it off in a patch, you can turn it back on in a patch."

Do the lies ever stop, with Microsoft?! MY GAWD!

Kydawg3819d ago

@ 4show
Keep telling yourself that buddy. You'll find out soon enough.

SITH3819d ago

OH NOES! I am going to freak out and abandon my Xbox one for the safety of the PS4 because I am oblivious that playing games, and even consoles online may result in a ban like they have for many years!!!

Please. Some of you are either incredibly oblivious, or just intentionally acting so.

Harmy6663818d ago

@RyuCloudStrife @Eonjay

Microsoft haven't locked anything down. He hasn't downloaded the Release Update to take away the DRM restrictions.

Plus if you go to his Twitter page, you'll see that everything has been sorted out by Major Nelson and the Xbox Team.

People need to research exactly what's going, before they start throwing their judgment out...

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MorePowerOfGreen3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

"Herny Wizzle ‏@HernyFood 3h
@albertpenello Rumours of DRM still being on x1 are surfacing due to the guy that got x1 early supposedly he cant play ghost SP True?"

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Nice try but we got you! as Al Sharpton would say

Why are PS4 fanboys so angry and hateful? Are you happy with PS4? LMAO

uncharted563819d ago

Are you kidding me? You support a company that created one good franchise aka Halo but is ready to drill you up the ass and suck the money out of you. I'm not defending Sony but they have come out with some amazing games this generation. Why would you support such a company? Do you have no self respect and dignity?

AngelicIceDiamond3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

Wow.

You know I can't help but think some people are causing unwarranted animosity with MS.

The console gets leaked early and MS takes action against it.

Suddenly its makes headlines that MS made a decision that EVERYBODY saw coming.

This guy did this all to himself. He just couldn't wait another week to play it, when everyone else got there's.

He gets his console early that's fine and great. A regular person would keep it in there closet and simply wait till release, or at least that's what I would do.

So lets all blame MS for something this guy did.

ZodTheRipper3819d ago

"He gets his console early that's fine and great. A regular person would keep it in there closet and simply wait till release, or at least that's what I would do."

You should discontinue your account on here for that statement. Who in their right mind would keep the box closed until launch after getting one early?

raytraceme3819d ago

Lol I lost some iq points reading your garbage. When has it ever been not Ok to use something that YOU PURCHASED THUS MAKING YOU THE OWNER OF THAT DEVICE? Is it not your property then if you cant use it early? No human wouldn't not use something if they got it early unless you are an xbot, xbug, or xboner.

XboxSeriesBest3819d ago

These are exactly the type of retards you would have to evade if you purchase an Xbox one this Nov 22nd

maniacmayhem3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

@Raytrace

Yes it's your system but it is still THEIR services you are using. The same applies to Sony when you log into PSN and have to check mark a ToS agreement.

Why would MS want someone leaking features that might not be ready before launch, and posting it all over youtube for the world to see? Hmmmm, maybe because some websites like N4G might blow up and claim the Xbox One won't be ready for launch! That might be one reason.

How about this CoD issue? Someone plays the game early and it's obvious the X1 is not set up yet as we have already heard from Panello but even in that small amount of time we got mass reports of the X1 still having DRM built inside.

THIS is why MS does not want the console shown off early. They know the internet is just ready to explode with hate and bias.

AngelicIceDiamond3819d ago

@Ray

Another keyboard warrior trying to fight the power. Your saying anybody who waits a week to play a console that got shipped to them early is a fanboy.

Greaaat logic. Yeah its your console but why play it early and jeopardize your chances of not playing it at all later?

If your not suppose to play it early then guess what? Don't play it early.

Your trying to fight something you can't control. And you'll just lose at the end.

And yes I know, I know its the principle of it. He shouldn't get banned because he's playing something he owns early.

Well, I don't know what to tell you but the world doesn't always work the way you want it to.

Sony isn't banning people if that makes you feel any better.

torchic3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

@AngelicIceDiamond

if you're just a fan and not being payed by Microsoft then you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

wow that's really pathetic, defending a company you like is one thing but what you just wrote (original post) there is just...

wow!

SITH3819d ago

Exactly diamond. These people complaining about something they deem is Microsoft's fault is misguided. That is intentional obviously. Obviously Microsoft had no intent for people to use the console when this impatient person logged it online. And everyone here knows it was going to lock up in 24hrs without the day one update.

rainslacker3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

I can't imagine anyone would want to wait a week or two to play(or at least boot up) the console which they just dropped $500 on, and have likely been anticipating for some time.

I would do so just to try. If I couldn't connect to update then so be it, it's still pre-release. But he could update, and if it were me, the first thing I would do is play a game or three.

If I got banned I would just tell MS that I didn't realize that I wasn't allowed to play it and hope for the best. At worst I would get a replacement console or my money back.

But seriously? A regular person would put it in the closet? Do you even read the comments on here?

I will say, however, I wouldn't go around posting stuff on the net, but that's just me.

WitWolfy3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

@AngelicICEDiamond

I wanna slap you in your whore mouth for saying MS is justified for what happened to this guy who LEGALLY purchased the console and trying to play it early.

Now go back to home on Whore Island!!

Captain Qwark 93819d ago

ive defended MS since the X1 announcement but this is just wrong. you want to punish someone, you punish the retailer. this man paid for his console legitimately and planned to wait until release date but then didnt have too. not his fault by any means.

MS is very lucky i dont work for sony because if i did, i would send him a ps4 for free and let him play it all he wants. that kind of press would destroy MS even more

Nevers0ft3819d ago

You fail to recognise a few key facts:
- It's not his fault he received the console early.
- He's not signed an NDA or is beholden to Microsoft in any way.
- I doubt it says "If our supply chain derps up and you get your console early, we'll screw you" in the Terms of Services.

This guy owns the console early through no fault of his own and he absolutely should not have arbitrary "punishments" forced upon him by Microsoft because somebody else screwed up.

rainslacker3818d ago

@Quark

I was actually wondering if Sony would make a move like that, just to rub salt in the wound, and give us forum goers some fun discussion for the week up to the PS4's release. Doing so means some other person, not as bright, may post the information this guy didn't.

I doubt they will though. The embargo is about lifted, and even Francis wasn't allowed to show anything that wasn't already known.

Sometimes it's fun to think about what would come of PR stunts like that though.:)

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MightyNoX3819d ago

This is the future Microsoft has been salivating over. Death to ownership and death to freedom. We play their games on their TIME and they can pull the plug anytime.

When you buy an Xbox One, you're not buying a piece of hardware, you're buying a license to play games that must be renewed.

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sinjonezp3819d ago

The people who disagree with you are the reasons why microsoft can do what they do. I understand that the online services is theirs and thats ok. But to have the ability to band you out of your legitimate bought product is just crazy. The person has a 500 brick. Thats some serious control and where in the terms it says he cannot access his product which he owns? This is very worrying and I have been saying that microsoft will implement control no matter how they spin the DRM or other aspects of how they intend to control content and software. At least sony puts the DRM status on the back of a box to give the person whom is buying the option to reconsider purchasing the product. The bottom line is I do not like the way home gaming is changing. When you bought a SNES, n64, dreamcast, ps2, etc, etc, you buy the system, you put the game in, you play the game. That is it. Now we have all these instruments of control that is really souring the way we access games or enjoy content. I dont want to get home and plug up my device and wait hours to update the console, reboot, update games, reboot game, update apps, reboot apps; no internet access, csn not access game, cannot access apps, cannot watch blu ray , needs update. Its sad times with owning a console on any platform. I wish we could. Turn the clock but unfortunately we live in a world where software and hardware companies are trying to control everything which in turn will lead to an abundance of hacking, modding and so forwarth.

Kydawg3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

all M$ is looking to do is sell a bunch of consoles, then sell the Xbox brand and company to the NSA.

1OddWorld3819d ago

Are we grasping at straws over the possibility of the DRM rearing its ugly head again? Maybe not but, I don't think they will make a huge mistake like that again {at least not so full force}. I do believe the next time we see the DRM issue it will have crept up so gradually that we might not have a chance to be heard. Like a mosquito it will be long gone before we even know we have been bitten. And on that note I will dismiss this info as DRM related and just mark it up to unpatched software and an untimely ban.

You can check my comments I am a Sony guy, but it's time to take a step back and let XBOne breath. Not saying by any means not to give it to Microsoft when it's deserving, but this time I think its BS.

quenomamen3819d ago

That's cuz we don't own the consoles anymore, we are just infinitely renting them.
Not just Xbone PS4 too, but MS does have a greater thirst for control.

come_bom3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

I have a feeling stupid fanboys are jumping the gun on this one... again.

Since the X1 OS is being constantly updated, I think we all should wait for November 22nd, to see what gives with the console... what it can do and what kind of DRM it has. I'm sure there are going to be out there a lot of testers...

As for the console being banned and not accessing the console system settings... if true, that's seriously f**ked up.

EDIT:
Microsoft has responded...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

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AceBlazer133819d ago

whoever buys this console deserves everything they get.

Fireseed3819d ago

Thanks! :) Nice to know someone else thinks I deserve KI :D

Eonjay3819d ago

I disagree. No one deserves this... well it doesn't look like they are going to do anything about it so I guess we have to raise hell for our Xbox gamers. Dont worry guys we will gladly defend you. Microsoft, like Sony are just false Gods lol.

If you get serious with them they usually give you what you want.

Wizziokid3819d ago

At this point I don't expect anything less from MS, does anyone? really?

Trekster_Gamer3818d ago

Just another flamebait article that ignorant, hate filled Sony trollbots like you can post in the xb1..easy fix. I hit ignore and don't read any more of your retarded posts..

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Thevariance3819d ago

A storm is brewing... And it ain't made of clouds, wind and all the normal stuff.

BoriboyShoGUN3819d ago (Edited 3819d ago )

well some cloud :P
* I kidding I kidding lol !

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7213h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle25m ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

purple1012h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac1h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10154m ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos25m ago(Edited 23m ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 9h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 7h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 4h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN21h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo23h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies19h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 7h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic17h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9016h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 9h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 8h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 5h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 8h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 7h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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