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160,000 Reasons for Microsoft and Sony to Worry

fool: "In the latest generation of video game consoles, Microsoft and Sony let Nintendo get a year's head start. If the ghost of Nintendo's past is anything like the ghost of Xbox One's or PS4's future, this is shaping up to be a real horror show."

DragonKnight3922d ago (Edited 3922d ago )

The name of this website is ridiculously apt after you read the article, which I suggest you don't bother.

Let me save you the trouble. Because the Wii U sold only 160,000 units, Sony and Microsoft should be worried that the console market is on life support.

Utterly ridiculous claim. People who don't game and don't understand gaming should not attempt to talk about gaming because they end up grouping consoles together as though they are all the same thing, and offer all the same things, when they aren't and don't.

badkolo3922d ago

gaming journalism AT ITS WORST

blackmanone3922d ago (Edited 3922d ago )

I don't know, this kind of gaming journalism seems to be par for the course, lately.

PopRocks3593922d ago

It remains to be seen how well the new generation will take off, but I highly doubt the Wii U's current woes are an indication of the new consoles' initial performance. Nintendo and several third party developers have created a share of problems that crippled the Wii U's first year and possibly the Wii U's chances of success as a whole. This is not mutually exclusive to the performance of the PS4 and Xbox One.

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brewin3921d ago

So glad you have that crystal all and can see the future. The sticker shock of a $400-$500 gaming system in this economic climate is enough to argue the opposite of your claim. If you think that these new maguic boxes will have an awesome, continuous stream of new and worthwhile titles that will move systems then you are delusional. The market does not take shape overnight dude. These consoles will go through their growing pains as well and we shouldnt be surprised to see fledgling sales after the initial sell-through.

Time will tell, but history is telling. These new systems dont really offer anything that is THAT much different than the current ststems. The VAST majority of consumers believe that they offer the same games just prettier on the newer consoles!

Parents wont just go out and buy a new system for little johnnys CoD fix if that same game is available on the system they already have. You folks who are arguing the new systems wont face sales lulls need to learn a thing or two about economics.

DragonKnight3921d ago

The irony of you starting off your comment with a sarcastic crystal ball comment and then making predictions about the consoles based on what your perceptions are is just pure gold.

And then the audacity to bring up history, a subject you clearly know little about. Troll on brewin, troll on.

Hicken3921d ago

You just got that all wrong, brewin. I've seen a lot, but I don't know if I've ever seen such a contradictory comment before on this site.

I hope you've got a drawing board...

brewin3921d ago

dragon knight,u obviously have no idea what trolling is if u think i was trolling. i play my ps3 and 360 more than any other systems. i also fail to see where i made any prediction. i am speaking from a parents viewpoint and the new systems havent sold me yet, nothing says to me that these systems are needed yet because most of the available titles are also on current systems.

and history? ive been through a ton of system launches and even the best of them had sales lulls, even the mighy ps2. thats not a prediction, thats from being there when it happened. i was pointing out what history tells us, not what the future will be. if i made a predicion it would be that these systems will have great runs in due time, but the wiiu also a good indicator of the struggles that new consoles may realistically face.

ovnipc3921d ago

even if in the next year or two current consoles sale more than new still good cause actually m$ and $ony make more $$$ than new consoles cause new consoles they lose money old consoles they make profit. But that wil mean that gaming its not dying like you are saying. Gaming its not going anywere actually its growing.

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chobit_A5HL3Y3922d ago

nintendo's wiiu issues won't effect sony or ms in the least. people know what the wiiu has to offer and decided to skip on it this time around. the real next gen consoles will out-sell the wiiu in no time.

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EXID3921d ago

@Omegaman

insecure much? the Wii U might pick up in sales in the next few months but it won't be any sort of competition to the ps4 and xbox one on their respected release dates.

EXVirtual3921d ago

Thank you! I'm a Nintendo fan, but i might skip the WiiU. I'm already getting the PS4. Nintendo needs to step up. BIG TIME.

Ol_G3921d ago

Thats only a percentage of the People most of them won't buy a new console cause the old one is Working just fine parents decide and the biggest part of gamers are little children

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Godz Kastro3922d ago

I do feel consoles have reasons to worry but not due to this. This is why I preach unity among console gamers. We NEED to support the medium we enjoy. I rad an article that said the Oculus Rift will support mobile devices before consoles due to the fact that phones/tablets get stronger and stronger year after year but consoles update hardware once every 8 years now. I am concerned because I love consoles...

Shad0wRunner3922d ago

Mobile gaming is a joke, whether its on an android phone, iOS tablet, or iPhone.

Have you seen the stats of next gen consoles? Are you kidding me? And youre worried that someday in the near future, that a phone or tablet will dominate over a console? LOLOLOLOL Thats funny.

Hey hey...maybe calculators, dishwashers and microwaves will dominate consoles too. LOLOL

Oh man. I got a GOOD laugh off that. Thanks bro. xD

brewin3921d ago

man i hope ur right. i am so damn sick of analysts and developers saying that mobile games are going to take over. it makes me feel sick just thinking about not having any other option for gming. yuck. imagine if consoles really did die off and mobile games were all that was left.f2p and casual puzzle game and shooter ripoffs with no real value! thats scary...

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle11h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio8h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning774h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga11h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218310h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan5h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus234h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv724h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10114h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos13h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-3h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac13h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10112h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic10h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead3h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 10h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken21h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 6h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 6h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 6h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 2h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 5h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 5h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 21h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 19h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 16h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 9h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 11h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 7h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 19h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 5h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 4h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger1h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 20h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 20h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 17h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 19h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 19h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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