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Should Microsoft delay the Xbox One Launch | OmniGamer

As we all know Microsoft and the Xbox One have had a lot of issues with the console launch and the console hasn't even launched yet! I personally know of quite a few people that were once Xbox fan boys/girls that have already pre-ordered the PS4. I believe that at this point Microsoft needs to take drastic action…. DELAY THE RELEASE OF THE XBOX ONE but my friend and coworker feels differently.

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allformats3939d ago

Nah, let them go ahead and release the thing.

NatureOfLogic3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

Xbox One has so many issues that a delay would be the best approach for the consumers or Xbox fans to pan out some of the problems with the console. The only reason MS will not delay, is the fear of giving PS4 a headstart. It's becoming more clear by the day that MS is clearly rushing their console out to compete with Sony.

Fanboyism aside, I think MS understands that Xbox 360 launched a year of ahead of PS3(with all it's launch issues) and was still out sold by PS3. I believe they're not as confident as Sony was in Playstation when they chose to delay PS3. It clear that Xbox One is rushed only to compete with PS4. A delay would mean no software patch, no kinect requirement and maybe a price reduction/ram upgrade. The lack of first party games and third party exclusives is also evident of a rushed launch. This is just my opinion on the topic.

zeal0us3938d ago

People tend to exaggerate heavily. The Xbox One don't have so many issues. The only issues I see right now is the price(which is due to the inclusion of Kinect) and the specs. What else is there need to be fixed? The DRM and used game crap is gone.

Building a functional X1 without Kinect shouldn't take long. Far as the specs goes, increasing them really isn't necessary.

georgeenoob3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

So many issues? You need to exit that Sony fantasy land of yours.

You don't even state any issues in your post to support your statement. Go ahead and try to state some I'd love to hear it. Probably the same Sony fanboy crap you guys love crying about like "kinect will spy on you".

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Godmars2903938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

@NatureOfLogic:
If as I suspect Kinect has been nothing but a marketing record device since it was first announced, then MS isn't going to be getting rid of it anytime soon. Though they don't have always online now they're still stressing online features, the cloud, so Kinect can still do what it was meant to do, which is to help with advertising.

@pedrof93:
"I wanna see them play Halo and Gears and Fifa and Unchartred on their gay station."

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One of those games is exclusive and another's multi, so you've got to be joking. You've got to be.

Edit@pedorf93:
Thank you and sorry. Given the internetz, its hard to tell sometimes. Most times...

pedrof933938d ago

@godmars.

My friend.

Trolling I was.

HammadTheBeast3938d ago

Oh thank god Pedro. I was about to cry.

Cmk01213938d ago

People really exaggerated , when you factor in people buying ps3 for a blu ray player solely on top of who'll Asian market refusing to buy Xbox 360 for no reason other than it was 100% catered to them and the sales were last released as being within a million units of each other not really a big deal. Last gen wii won need I say more Bout people's purchasing decisions ... People
Mocked ms for not caring about gamers yet MS brought Netflix Nd the app centric approach to
Gamers. And Sony followed in toe. Same with this gen, all
You hear is about MS talking about sports and tv yet last gen Sony brought nfl Sunday ticket to ps3( great feature btw). It's all
About perspective and seeing that
Xbox is better online and competitive and Sony owns offline campaign experiences.

slampunk3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

@natureoflogic

I have both PS3 and 360.....and what you are saying doesn't make a whole lot of sense.....why?

PS2 sold around 150 million, Xbox Original around 20 million....

360 and PS3 have sold around 80 million each.....

Do you really think that Sony wanted to lose the amount of market share that had in one generation?

It's hilarious that FB's criticize the other company whilst being blind to their preferred consoles mistakes ( which both companies have made).

I think the PS4 has done a fantastic job so far but there are still questions i have regarding their online services as they have been very quiet about when things will launch with gaikai and i also think they could have issues around their software at launch....hope i'm wrong, but we'll see...

The best thing Sony has done IMO with PS4 is fix the mistakes they made last gen....launch at the same time or first, make a developer friendly console, cross game chat, improve the controller design and ship with a headset!!!!

MS have done a terrible job with their messaging so far but i do have faith in their online services and software....you only have to look at the upgrades they have made to the dashboard over the course of this gen.....in amongst some concerns.....

Heartnet3938d ago

There is nothing to suggest there rushing it out...

and tehre is no problems with the console just some PR disaster in explaining stuff...

and if they were going by the previous gen they wouldnt worry about releasing early as although the ps3 eventually outsold the Xbox360 MS still had way more profit and money out of the thing..

hell until a few years ago sony were making a loss on each ps3 sold and were relying on Software sales.

and X1 has more games than ps4 at launch and showed exclusive games at E3..

when you said fanboysim aside you clearly havnt done any research aside from n4g which is pretty muuch all sony pro news and ms neg news... get off n4g and go do some actual research into whats what and youll realise how much is wrong in ur comment

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NatureOfLogic3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

@ Heartnet , Nice try, though it seems you are the one who use n4g for facts.

PS4 launch games not available on Xbox One.....

Killzone Shadow Fall
Knack
Warframe
DC Universe Online
DriveClub
Diablo 3

These are games that we know are day one.

Xbox One launch games not available on PS4.....

Dead Rising 3
Forza Motorsport 5
LocoCycle
Killer Instinct
Kinect Sports Rivals
Ryse: Son of Rome

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And If I were to include a list of total announced games so far, Xbox One would lose there.

georgeenoob3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

@Nature

Half those games you listed for PS4 are multiplatform. X1 launch exclusives beat PS4's in both quality and quantity.

PS4:
Killzone
Knack
Driveclub

X1:
Dead Rising
Forza
Ryse
Killer Instinct
Kinect Sports

NatureOfLogic3938d ago

@ georgeenoob

He argued that Xbox One had more launch games, which is simply untrue. You can not play warframe, Diablo 3 or DC Universe Online on Xbox One(these are games for those in denial). Xbox One might have more day one launch exclusives so far, but PS4 have more games available over Xbox One on launch day. Prove me wrong if you can.

fermcr3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

So many issues ???

The only issue i see now is the forced inclusion of Kinect, and that is easily resolved with a software update.

The smartest thing Microsoft could do now (from my point of view) is release a cheaper version of the X1 without Kinect, maybe even a bit cheaper then the PS4.

Kryptix3938d ago

@georgee
lol You mention quality then you add Kinect Sports. lol Yea...you woke up from your dream yet?

H0RSE3938d ago

@NatureOfLogic - "PS4 have more games available over Xbox One on launch day. Prove me wrong if you can."
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According to the Xbox One and PS4 wiki's on IGN, you are both right and wrong - Xbox does not have more launch titles than PS4, however PS4 does not have more either - they are the same. 17 titles each.

XBOX:

1. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
2. Battlefield 4
3. Call of Duty: Ghosts
4. Dead Rising 3
5. FIFA 14
6. Forza Motorsport 5
7. Just Dance 2014
8. Killer Instinct
9. Kinect Sports Rivals
10. LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
11. LocoCycle
12. Madden NFL 25
13. NBA 2K14
14. NBA Live 14
15. Ryse: Son of Rome
16. Skylanders: Swap Force
17. Watch Dogs

PS4:

1. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
2. Battlefield 4
3. Call of Duty: Ghosts
4. DC Universe Online
5. Diablo 3
6. Drive Club
7. FIFA 14
8. Just Dance 2014
9. Killzone: Shadow Fall
10. Knack
11. LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
12. Madden NFL 25
13. NBA 2K14
14. NBA Live 14
15. Skylanders: Swap Force
16. Warframe
17. Watch Dogs

AzureskyZ3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

Well its easy to just delay the console, but then they risk in giving sony the easy win. At this point production of the console is probably in full circle to meet the demands for holiday season. Console specs im sure finalized and in production, however if there is one concern it might been in the software department. DRM, family share was deeply rooted in the infrastructure of the os, so its possible a significant amount of it have to be recoded. My other concern, although is a rumor, is that APU may get overclocked, although this might give it a performance boost, it also produces alot more heat. Microsoft never shied away for releasing untested product, but its hard to say what the correct approach is when your competitor is release their console within the same window and has been gaining momentum since E3.

Ausbo3938d ago

You guys are all wrong. Diablo 3 is not a launch title. It got delayed to 2014 and an xbox one version is likely

http://www.craveonline.com/...

minimur123938d ago

'around the world later this year '

Japan, 2014 and wherever else it's being released in 2014

Urusernamesucks3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

The only Issue is bad publicity Which is fed By Misinformed children fanboys and paranoid tards.

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StoneyYoshi3938d ago

@ allformats
Agreed! i mean they couldn't even play the games on the actual system they were demonstrating to people at E3. There has to be something wrong if they cant show their systems running their launch games 5 months before the whole freaking system releases.

Death3938d ago

Both Sony and Microsoft had games running on PC's and dev systems. This is not uncommon this early in a console lifecycle. Neither system has started production. Pre-production with limited runs are happening to get manufacturing setup, but full scale production is weeks if not months away.

theWB273938d ago

Did you not know about this?

http://www.psu.com/forums/s...

There were games running on actual hardware and on PC's for both systems. Get over it.

Godmars2903938d ago

@Death:
Except where Sony used actual dev kits, with hardware representative of what would finally go into the PS4, MS used neither similar hardware or even software. And even the rumor that the XB1 might see increases in RAM and CPU/GPU, even if its only to spite Sony and no longer be the lower spec system, suggest such.

StoneyYoshi3938d ago

"There were games running on actual hardware and on PC's for both systems. Get over it."

Ok so we have a legit photo of a demo running on a windows PC and you are going to come back with Giantbomb claiming that PS4 was also doing the same thing? Legit proof and word of mouth are nothing alike. Show me a picture of a PS4 demo at E3 running on a pc.

How about you get over it?

Heartnet3938d ago

You do realise that one picture on the web was A developer who created the Game LocoCycle and they owned up to it as they hadnt finished porting it and wanted to show it off...

seriously dude get off n4g and go research before irrationalyl comment...

your mindset is stuck on ps4 and refuses to see anything else...

StoneyYoshi3937d ago

@ heartnet

Lol! Did you also forget the windows 7 sound that chimes in at 3:20 on the Dead Rising 3 demo? Seems like you need to go do some research yourself. Oh and while you are at it, why don't you go learn how to type a proper sentence, also spelling helps too, because its very hard to take any of your comments seriously.

You might have to get off of N4G yourself, because it seems like you are getting pretty livid at anybody who doesn't agree with you.

Also stating my opinion towards something that you deeply care about does not make somebody a "fanboy".

Can we just have a damn debate about something on this site without these children coming in here with, "fanboy this and fanboy that! FANBOY FANBOY FANBOY."

Seriously, you people need to grow the hell up.

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dedicatedtogamers3938d ago

If the rumors regarding yield issues and being forced to rush-fix the UI are true, then a delay would be for the best for Xbox fans.

But of course, Microsoft won't delay it. "Ship first, patch later" has always been their MO. The people who will suffer will be early adopters.

Heartnet3938d ago

same with every console and every game this gen...

i miss the previous gen when nothing could be patched so everything was fine :)

medman3938d ago

Microsoft would only anger gamers further by delaying the console. They already have a pr disaster on their hands, but to infuriate those gamers who despite Microsoft's shortcomings pre-ordered what appears to be a confused console would be galling. Delay for what? To get their act together and offer more hardware performance? That ship has sailed. They are not going to eat hundreds of millions in development cost to go back and upgrade the memory and gpu/cpu to give the ps4 a head start in this gen. It is counterintuitive. They made their plan, they botched it, Sony surprised them with 8gb of gddr5 and other aspects of the ps4 including pricing. Now they have to push on and hope that gamers will find some of the software they offer to be compelling enough to put down cash for the Xbone.

greenlantern28143937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

they should only delay the launch if they are aware of problems. it would really be a bad thing to bring it to market if the machine isnt ready to go. but if it is then release it.
I know they dont want to give sony any kind of head start. but the reasons people want them to delay launch is for things that ms isnt going to do annyways like remove kinect. however they might want to delay just a little bit to avoid potential problems with the day 1 update,

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zeal0us3938d ago

Making a functional X1 that doesn't rely on Kinect to run wouldn't take that long or long enough that it needs to be delay.

Increasing the specs so that its closer to the PS4 or stronger than the PS4 really isn't necessary. Soon as MS does you can bet the price will increase with or without the Kinect.

HammadTheBeast3938d ago

That's not happening because MS is forcing devs to put in Kinect dedicated applications into games. Their emphasis on the kinect will make it hard o make a kinect-less X1. But I agree, there aren't any massive issues with it.

Heartnet3938d ago

wouldnt say there forcing dev's

at the end of the day if there not publishing the game then they cant tell the dev what to do...

there giving developers more options to use knowing that they can use those features.

For instance every ps4 controller has move attached but the dev cant utilize this without putting in an extra option to ovveride that as not every1 will have the camera therefor no dev will utilize it as its a waste of time and money.

Kryptix3938d ago

The main problem with this is people who already pre-ordered the Xbox One and paid the full $500 would be pissed off. And I agree, there's not many problems with the Xbox One...it's just the people running it.

RedHawkX3938d ago

without everyone always being online kinect will not function as good without the power of the cloud that was based around everyone being online drm all the time. not only that but releasing now and not having enough consoles to where people who want an xbox one cant get one or have to pay ebay prices is not good thats lost money. the xbox one needs a day one patch like nintendos wii u and we seen how bad that went because some people didnt have internet to download the patch and because the patch was a huge file. they we need to have a day one patch disk available to people at the store so those without internet can get there xbox ones to play games. they need to delay to january or late december. also these are just the problems we know right now imagine top seret stuff we dont know that coud be going wrong.

blackmanone3938d ago

"without everyone always being online kinect will not function as good without the power of the cloud that was based around everyone being online drm all the time."

I understand now how MS convinces these people. It's just too easy.

iamnsuperman3938d ago

Bad move. I mean they could update some of the system to make it more powerful but that not only does that add to the cost of developing the console it also puts Microsoft in a bad position as the console is already more expensive than its rival. Okay it happened to the PS3 and sales eventually picked up but the increase in cost with the bad press and the fact that couldn't make drastic hardware changes to the One it would be suicidal for Microsoft. They would have to completely change their how PR campaign. These things do not get done in a matter of weeks. It takes months and sometimes years to do when it comes to a big launch

FrigidDARKNESS3938d ago

First of all this is an opinion by the author that has been reading to many negative articles. Delaying it won't stop all the negative BS and Mularkey. Release the console show how awesome itit is with the better looking games and consumers will start to change their minds.

pedrof933938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

You are right. The faster they release it. The faster people understand how awesome the One is.

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Gamesgbkiller3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

I don't think that MS has the balls to do something like .... oh wait!!

Red_Devilz3938d ago

They may not have balls, but they have Ballmer!

Urusernamesucks3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

Fuking hell... My sides ...

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7218h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle5h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18812h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio2h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga4h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21833h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga2h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1017h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos6h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac6h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1015h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic3h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 14h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 12h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 9h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 2h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 4h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 12h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic22h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9021h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 13h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 13h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 10h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 12h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 12h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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