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Believe it or not, Xbox is taking care of business

Marques Lyons - Microsoft Xbox MVP and the Director of Consumer Camp:
"As the owner of a small business, you find great value in your computer and your phone. Between the two of them you are prepped for presentations, up to date on your appointments and able to create documents with relative ease.
However, let me throw another device into that mix: The Xbox One.
What is being positioned as an excellent entertainment device can be just as enticing for you and your small business. In fact, it's entirely justifiable to make the Xbox One a business expense. The Xbox One, priced at $499, is an affordable option for small business owners, as there are many features built into the console that could help it rival even the most modest of video conferencing and networking platforms."

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zme-ul3942d ago

Microsoft clearly lost their marbles

NewMonday3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

WTF!

this is not a parody, MS are actually saying this.

TV TV TV sports business TV

just when you think you have seen everything, MS invent new ways to fail.

its funny but this article is becoming true:
"Xbox One is Becoming a Great Ad for the PS4"
http://n4g.com/news/1306300...

zme-ul3942d ago

MS has "something" here, a perfect opportunity for industrial espionage :lol:

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NewMonday3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

@edonus

sure, video conferences on a machine that collects information, no problem at all :/

dredgewalker3942d ago

I'm sorry but for business a pc is all you need, which is cheaper, more flexible and costs less to maintain. The Xbox One is looking like a jack of all trades and master of none console.

zme-ul3942d ago

@edonus
being a small business, chanches are (100%) that you have a notebook or a PC around, yes?!
it's fairly easy to install Skype or any other software for video conferences
chances are that you do not have a webcam, then you need to buy one

but, bottom line - it's not gonna cost you 499.99USD

for a small business it's very important on what they spend they money on - do you actually think a gaming console would be part of their budget

dredgewalker3942d ago

MS should also fire the idiot who thought of this idea. A console will never replace nor will it outperform the function of a pc for office use. My god is MS deliberately trying to sabotage the Xbox One?

pompombrum3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

Lmfao edonus.. you'd say white was black if Microsoft came out and said so. Xbox One as a device for small businesses.. no just no. For what they are claiming there are far cheaper and far more productive solutions.

It's also funny you call people out as clear sony fanboys when it's crystal clear who you are a fanboy of. Do I own a small business? No but one of my closest friend does and he just laughed the idea out the window. Regardless of fanboy or not, I think it's fairly obvious Microsoft really are losing their marbles and are clearly deluded if they think they are going to sell the Xbox One as a business device.

JoySticksFTW3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

Any apologists still want to say that gaming is a priority for MS?

You know when PS3 started getting good? When Sony stopped marketing it as a everything box and began focusing on games again.

It's like MS is totally ignoring this generation's lessons, and just throwing anything against the wall to see what sticks.

How can anyone in their right mind not see the lack of vision and focus from MS with Xbox One?

Didn't MS only begin working on Xbone in 2010, while Sony began in 2007-2008?

MS were unprepared for the next gen to come so soon and it shows. They became complacent due to 360's success. And the most damning, MS seems out of touch with what people want from their system. All of this happening as MS is restructuring. Just after scrapping their vision of the future with Xbox One due to extreme backlash.

Who can feel confident in X1, when MS themselves don't seem confident in their own product with them grasping at straws?

Get it together, MS

gnothe13942d ago

guys like you disgust me...all MS is doing is showing MORE WAYS you can use this system ON TOP of playing GAMES AN BLU RAYS....its like no matter what MS shows guys like you find a reason to hate on it....if you hate MS so much why do you feel the need to post a bash in EVERY XBOX ARTICLE...I really don't like my PS3 but I don't need to bash it..im just gonna give sony another try this gen...ive never seen fanboys so bad in my life...I bet you've told all your friends NOT to get a xbox because the playstation is THE BEST...I don't even know why im wasting my time on you guys....I really need a new site..this place is PATHETIC

pompombrum3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

^^^ Lol, overreaction much? This is a site for GAMERS.. seeing how Microsoft completely screwed gamers over when they got delusions of Wii grandeur, I think gamers have every right to feel a little betrayed by Microsoft's lack of focus on the core gamers.

Anyway, ask Edonus and Jokesonyou, I'm sure they know a good place where you merry band of Xbox fanboys can go talk it up and go on about how awesome Microsoft and the Xbox One is.

devwan3942d ago

@edonus

Yes, I have my own small business and I'm a Sony fan(boy), but (and this might come as a bit of a shocker)... I've got this magical device called a laptop, and blow me if the thing isn't already able to do all that stuff and more! Imagine my surprise as it didn't even cost as much as an xbox one!

Thanks for the giggles at least...

n4rc3942d ago

God.. You people are too dumb to even know what fanboy means..

You people do nothing but wait for any post that isnt slamming Xbox and starting talking nonsense.

You can use video chat for business.. Well no kidding! There is nothing bad or inaccurate about that..

Yes.. Let's all bitching about privacy when Sony has lost more users private data then any other console maker ever..

Fanboy idiocy.. Get a life

OC_MurphysLaw3942d ago

Sony sold the US Air Force a ton of PS3's back in the day because it could be used to make a "super computer". Sony itself was publicly promoting a cloud program (forgot the name) that if you accepted allowed scientists to use your PS3 for data crunching. My point here is... there already is precedent for pitching game consoles for non-gaming use.

Xbox One most certainly won't be a popular choice for businesses but it could have business merit for those companies looking for a low end video conference call solution.

We already know MS wants Xbox One to be more than just a games console. This is merely part of that broader view.

nukeitall3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

@devwan:

Do you have staff?

If your business is hectic, then time is the most valuable and costly resource you have. Dicking around with a laptop fixing problems trying to get things to work isn't resourceful use of your time or of your employees.

That is why companies invest in communication, and if this makes it all easier you bet they are going to jump on it.

A professional would cost you close to $400-500 a day at around $70k a year salary. If he/she or a few more people dick around for 2 hours, you spent that already.

Consumers see only single dollar savings, while even just small businesses looks at hundreds to thousands dollars.

People here have no clue how much businesses spend on things. Ask Cisco how much it cost for an enterprise video conference system. Hint, it far exceeds the cost of Xbox One several times over.

HammadTheBeast3942d ago

Wow.

For about $1.99 (or even free) I can do conference calls with up to 26 people....

Wait for it....

On my phone.

But no, let's spend $500 cause as a small business I obviously have money to blow on games consoles for the office.

mewhy323942d ago

Wow. I think micro$oft should leave the gaming to Sony. I mean, it's like every time that I read about them on the new there's something new idiotic thing that they're saying or doing.

dlocsta3942d ago

@newmonday
Did you type your response on a computer or cell phone? Just wanted to let you know that if you did they are both collecting information about you. I really wish you people would stop speaking just to be heard and actually think about the things you are saying. There is no more intrusive a device on the planet than a cell phone and you use that every day.

Urusernamesucks3941d ago

My god you people are so thickskulled, "a console should be only for gaming" then pcs should be only for calculatios and not videogames.

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die_fiend3942d ago

This sums it up:

"The Xbox One, priced at $499, is an affordable option for small business owners, as there are many features built into the console that could help it rival even the most modest of video conferencing and networking platforms."

It could rival even the most modest of video conferencing. That's them admitting it's really quite poor at those things isn't it? If it can EVEN rival the most modest? Bad choice of words. Shouldn't it rival the good ones. Not, EVEN rival the poor ones

blanket143942d ago

lol at 499 I could buy a pc that does it better for business than the one lol

mediate-this3942d ago

only thing that makes white white is the word

RememberThe3573942d ago

Why do you have to be a fanboy to recognize this is the exact thing we didn't want to see form MS. I'm not fanboy,thought I do lean Sony most of the time. I grew up with MS, born and raised in Seattle, I love Windows, and I think Office is beast, but I did not want to see MS push this system as a business opportunity for themselves. This is a games console they're trying to sell as a "cheep" conferencing platform. But like many have said here PCs (Windows) do it much better and cheaper.

I'm not a fanboy, I'm a gamer and I want my gaming console to be about games. If MS can pull off giving the system a steady stream of games as well as quality service in other sectors them I'm all for it, I just don't see it happening.

*Fingers crossed*

die_fiend3942d ago

What an awful article. Small businesses are not going to spunk $ 500 on a games console so they can video chat. They could buy a pc for half that. Microsoft have pissed on their consumers and this is a desperate plea for any market segment to get tipped off. £429 for that?! Must be a joke

lawgone3942d ago

The only thing that is a joke are your fanboy comments.

die_fiend3941d ago

It's not a fanboy comment. It's highlighting how desperate MS are becoming. The fact the head of Xbox resigned and they've recently restructured speaks volumes - they're in big trouble

ALLWRONG3942d ago

Actually this is a cheaper option for small business. Only a blind fool wouldn't see the importance of capturing the office space. You Sony fans should be a little worried about this. If MS can capture even a fraction of it's MS Office users, they could double the install base. Once in the work place there is no stopping it, just look at Windows and MS Office.

I'm still not getting one because I spent my money on a PC.

devwan3942d ago

Well pass me a cane and a jester hat because I must be the most foolish, short sighted GAMER there is.

So not only is ms not creating a games console and instead a device to capture the living room, but it's box is aiming to become the centre of operations in the office space?

You know what happens when you aim to be all things to all men...? You fail on every single count.

All aboard ms' omnia omnibus! Toot toot!

ALLWRONG3942d ago

"You know what happens when you aim to be all things to all men...? You fail on every single count."

Is that what happened to Sony when they lost so much money? "too many cooks in the kitchen" Movies, music, phones, PC, consoles, TV's, stereos, Blu-ray and barely enough money to keep it going.

You should have thought that comment out before posting.

n4rc3942d ago

Yet all Sony fans jumped on the "it does everything" bandwagon when Sony tried it.. Now Microsoft are screwing gamers for doing the same thing

Hypocritical bs..

lawgone3942d ago

@nr4c...the hypocrisy is truly infuriating at times. They are not going to like anything the XBox does. It could give them 3 blow jobs a day and they would complain.

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theEx1Le3942d ago

Im sure the PS3 was advertised as a business machine too when it launched. Didnt they have something about clustering ps3 together as a supercomputer. IDK, if it shifted more units I dont see the harm.

ALLWRONG3942d ago

Yup... Sony did say something like that, but that's Sony and this is N4G.

iceman063942d ago

Actually, several government agencies were intrigued by the prospect of using the PS3 clusters to crunch raw data (which the CELL was really good at). So, the US Air Force purchased PS3's to make that cluster. Then, there was the Folding At Home program to integrate gamers PS3's into a cloud computing group that helped to discern protein structures during cancer research. But, it wasn't an advertisement of sorts. It was more of...hey this is what others want to do with PS3 that isn't game related.

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oof463942d ago

They weren't kidding when they said they were going after the mass market.

Wizziokid3942d ago

Xbox is taking care of business, for the PS4.

I'm sorry but MS just keep getting bad press, they need to sit down and rethink their business plan and fire the people who where involved with the X1 reveal.

HyperBear3942d ago

I'm thinking Microsoft should have just named it the Xbox 8 or the Windows Xbox. They have completely lost their minds and, I think legally, you cannot classify the Xbox One as a gaming console anymore, when it's actually an Xbox with Windows 8.

NewMonday3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

gimped Windows 8, you can't install W8 software, if it it could the XB1 would be a must have, you can install Steam and Origin and play Sony MMO's lol

HyperBear3942d ago

Ahh, you're right, my bad. The correct way of putting it should have been:

"Microsoft should have named it Xbox RT or the Windows RT/box"

DiRtY3942d ago

They are simply telling smaller companies that the Xbox One supports Skype video conferences just fine and it is an entertainment machine for the employees.

You are trying too hard to make a big deal out of this.

oof463942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

Aren't there cheaper options for small businesses to Skype on?

iamnsuperman3942d ago

What small businesses are going to shell out money for entertainment machines when they need their workforce to work at the business and not play/watch movies. They aren't Google. Also its fairly cheap to get a PC which can skype especially when some companies make deals when it comes to big orders. I know my mother had some ipad deal when it came to fitting out all senior staff with them at the school she runs

zme-ul3942d ago

being a small business, chanches are (100%) that you have a notebook or a PC around, yes?!
it's fairly easy to install Skype or any other software for video conferences
chances are that you do not have a webcam, then you need to buy one

but, bottom line - it's not gonna cost you 499.99USD

for a small business it's very important on what they spend they money on - do you actually think a gaming console would be part of their budget

dredgewalker3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

Agreed, even a netbook can do those kind of jobs and you can have 2 of those for the Xbox One's price.

AtomicGerbil3942d ago

Let's not forget the extra cost of needing a HD TV.

DiRtY3942d ago

Okay, I am arguing with some guys that still go to school here.

Entertainment stuff is pretty common these days in the working world. We have had some consoles in our office before and a lot of my clients offer a pool-table, Table-football (Is that the right word for it?), consoles etc. If one of those can be used for video conferences, it is not a disadvantage.

Actually I do this stuff for a living, but N4G will still know more about this.

iamnsuperman3942d ago

"Okay, I am arguing with some guys that still go to school here"

No actually I was talking about my mother's job which I thought I made pretty clear. Usually headmistresses are much older as they work from the bottom. The jobs I have done do not have entertainment stuff in the workplace because I went to work to work for the office and earn my keep.

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Hicken3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

Yeah... a $300 PC can do what they're claiming, and still be able to, you know, be a PC, which makes it far more versatile than the XBOne.

And if it were bought for video conferencing, I don't think the boss would be too happy if the employees broke it playing Halo.

Just saying.

Edit: I should add, one of the reasons this doesn't look good is because Microsoft is, honestly, still needing to garner support from the gaming community. They're pretty far behind right now, and continuing to take aim like this at other groups won't exactly reassure people that they've got gaming as first priority.

DVAcme3942d ago

Exactly. Plus, why would Microsoft want to sell the console itself to people who will never buy games for it? Software sales is where the biggest income in gaming comes from, and they would not get a single cent of it from a small business owner.

devwan3942d ago

@DVAcme They would actually, the office would have to take out a live subscription to be able to make use of the console's Skype etc. which is just more unnecessary expense. Maybe they plan a whole suite of office tools for xbox one owners... is this where the xbox division is headed under Julie Larson-Green?

ms should be courting GAMERS, regaining a lost trust and focussing all their efforts beyond launch on GAMES. Do this crazy stuff 6 months down the line when you want to shift a few extra boxes, but not now, it's incredibly badly judged when so many people are worried the box isn't going to cater enough to gamers.

Gekko363941d ago

Actually in my consultancy firm I decided to put in a load of xbox 360's and the guys live em. I will be replacing them with xbox one's before "magic baby day" (25/12/13). I will shove one in the conference room for skype, should be cool.

The guys will love it.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7219h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle6h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18813h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio3h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga5h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21834h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga3h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1018h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos8h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac7h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1016h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic4h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 15h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 13h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 10h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 3h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 5h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 1h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 13h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic23h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9022h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 15h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 14h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 11h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 14h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 13h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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