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Microsoft: PS4 won't make us 'change anything we've done with Xbox One'

Microsoft said recently that despite Sony's PS4 having a strong showing at E3 that they don't plan to 'change anything' with the Xbox One because of it.

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Godmars2903967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

If neither Sony nor the complaints wont change MS's mind, then its going to be up to sales past launch.

Likely going to be too late by then. If they're wrong anyway.

zeal0us3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

Even if the X1 sales performance turns out poorly, even then MS won't change the policies in place. More than likely they would say "Once the X1 is available in more countries the unit sales will increase." Or they will blame it on something else.

Microsoft won't blame the restrictions or requirement, just look at their response to the backlash and media.

JokesOnYou3967d ago Show
thehitman3967d ago

Unil all your friends get a ps4 @ jokes.

Sitdown3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

This is the x1

www.comcast.com/mx1/?SCRedire ct=true

gtarhro73967d ago

Oh man Jokes, you so silly.

Silly Mammo3967d ago

@ jokes- I'm seriously getting dizzy with all your spin.

voodoopickle3967d ago

JokesOnYou, ive been sharing PS3 games with my friends for as long as its been around. that's not a new concept... at all

dedicatedtogamers3967d ago

Post-2006, Sony was very willing and very eager to change the policies for the PS3 in an attempt to match the 360 and to please its fans.

Microsoft is pure arrogance if they are unwilling to adjust.

NewMonday3967d ago

@JokesOnYou

it sounds like your trying to convince yourself not others

you used to make good points but now your just turning into another Greenpowrz

CerebralAssassin3967d ago

Why do people get crucified for liking the xbone? No matter which console you get there will be pros and cons. The xbone can cause problems for some but I dont think it will affect as many people as the media and n4g community let on. Personally none of these problems really effect me in my everyday life. Which is why im getting an xbone instead of ps4. That and I just cant deal with a dualshock controller. Let the hate begin!!

FITgamer3967d ago

@JOY You could of saved some time by just saying "F&<k my rights!"

Hydrolex3967d ago

NICE ! better for Sony

lol

Darrius Cole3967d ago

Actually, what they will probably do if the sales are poor is to kill the Xbone, if the sales don't pick up for any length of time.

SilentNegotiator3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

"I like xbox live vs psn because of the friends I've built"

...wouldn't new systems imply a resetting of who has what brand of console (unless they eat up whatever one brand gives them)?

"Most of all I like the X1 games and what micro is trying to do vs ps4= go digital"

Xbox fanboys sure have been trying to convince themselves that Microsoft is "going digital". That delusion has been going on ever since Ps3 had Blu-ray. If Xbox One is "going digital", then why do they still have hard copies (and will likely sell more physical than digital again with games offering both, like this gen, with absolutely nothing suggesting otherwise)?

It's funny, I saw posts from you where you took a step back and basically said "wow, Microsoft is being ridiculous" and now you're right back to your trolling and convincing yourself. I thought I had underestimated you, but obviously I only underestimated your capacity for delusion.

Derpy3967d ago

The thing that I find most insulting is that M$ is basically saying that all consumers are criminals that need to be checked on every 24 hours. I see no reason to pay some company to treat me like I'm under house arrest.

@CerebralAssassin, to answer your question, when a gamer knowingly supports something that encourages loss of our rights as a consumer and a gamer, they're really no better than a scab and that gets people angry. They have the freedom to do so, but don't expect to get patted on the back for it.

M$ are not the police and they have no business acting like it. I'm going to exercise my consumer rights by saying no to their degrading product.

fr0sty3967d ago

@Jokes, Sony has been going digital for years. Full PS3 games have been on PSN for a while now. PSN games are plentiful. Imposing DRM does not equal "going digital". That's just Microsoft's bullshit spin they've put on their terrible policies.

ltachiUchiha3967d ago

JokesOnYou

I can understand that some of u like u & greenpowerz will choose xbox one over anything & thats your choice, but how do u know every friend u made friends with on xbl will feel the same? My older brother is a die hard xbox fan too but i told him everything he didnt know & he has made up his mind to buy a ps4 but is hoping that because of bad sales the xbox one will have & trust me it will be bad, that microsoft has a change of heart & dismisses the restrictions. I am fed up with them & wont be buying one & hope it fails miserably just so microsoft understands not to f**k with consumers because we can easily turn around & do the same to them. Might not hurt them but trust me, it will make them rethink about ever trying to force restrictions on us ever again.

NukaCola3967d ago

Joke said instead of a getting a high powered, less expensive, unrestricted platform dedicated first to games and the game community...he'd rather have an extremely priced, low performance cable box with endless restrictions and a big FU to the gamers. Can we mark this as trolling now?

If you wanted something unique that'd make sense but X1's differences are like comparing living in a villa on the French Riviera vs living in an apartment in North Korea just because you're friends support a prison minded dictatorship with their console.

Can't wait to see how many Xboxers realize what MS is doing and come back home to PS. You can see it in the media fan boys how hard they are justifying the X1 but at tyr end of the day you all know deep down inside that MS is 150% doing the wrong thing.

DOMination-3967d ago

To share games on the ps3 you have to install your profile on another console and you can only do that once. The X1 allows up to ten shares which you enabke from your friends list (you don't have to put your account on their console) so I will defend that one issue as its genuinely an exciting feature potentially.

Its increasingly harder to defend the other things though. Sony are really offering a more viable alternative at a cheaper price. Its difficult to argue with the facts

Angrymorgan3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

@joke
I may be wrong but on ps4 you can get a friend to take over your game instantly over psn so yea you can share games with friends over the net....sorta

I also like the look of x1 games.even the tv functionality but in my opinion the cons soooo outweigh the pros that it's just not cost effective to get one.
Id be poring mony down the pan.
Also im not one of those people who like a bookcase full of old games I never play so not being able to trade or give games away easily is a massive no no for me

kupomogli3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

@DOmination

You can have your account on more than two consoles. It just can't be activated to play games on more than two consoles any longer.

It's simple to get a friend to deactivate your account on his PS3 if you want another friend to activate an account and play a game with you. As long as you have friends you can trust.

nunley333967d ago

@JokesOnYou - The PS4 will have a low power state for being always updating and has an app that will work identical to smartglass plus vita for 2nd screen activities. PS4 will be download game updates, DLC store purchases, and full retail games in the background while your playing a game, I haven't heard that XB1 can do this. I wish microsoft good luck (sarcasm) because xb1 willstruggle to outsell the gamecube.

MasterOfThe12Blades3967d ago

@DOM
If i want to share games with my friends i just hand them the disc!

loulou3967d ago

well, i have an xbox one on pre-order also. because of the controller and live, like this gen, it will be my main console.

ps4 like the ps3 this gen will be just for the exclusives.

disagree away.

on topic, if m$ dont change things in the next 5 months, then they will be slaughtered over the holidays.... surely just looking at the pre-orders they must know this

Ares84HU3967d ago

Good MS, keep digging that grave deeper! Clearly you are out of touch with what people actually want.

D-riders3967d ago

jokes on you, so your saying that all your friends on xbox360 are getting an Xbox one.Over the ps4, its a new gen. Then always on doesn't mean always updating, the ps3 does auto updates now. Every device should be the same way by now not sure if the 360 does that. But the PS4 does its a learning system. which means it updates all the time. Kinect being forced is not good thing. its just a gimmick to the system. what if the ps4 has kinect abilities, doesn't that make the system less attractive.

Also just so you know MS did the same thing with exclusives with the 360 and we see how that turned out.

maniacmayhem3967d ago

JokesOnYou got marked again for trolling?

Am I missing something here? All he is doing is explaining why he likes the Xbox 1.

Has this site really dissolved into this?

BattleAxe3967d ago

Microsoft:

"We're going down with the ship, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it"

SilentNegotiator3967d ago

@Maniac
Oh please. All JOY does is troll.

"X1 always on= always updating"

Come on now...

starchild3966d ago

How ridiculous. I'm a PC gamer that Is only buying a PS4 and VASTLY prefer the PS4 over the Xbox One, but the fact that JokesOnYou guy got marked for trolling just goes to show how pathetic this site has become. He wasn't trolling at all. He has a right to his preference just the same as any of you. Sony is awesome in gaming and the Ps3 and PS4 are outstanding consoles, but their fan base stinks.

Rockstar3966d ago

"I like X1 always on= always updating"

My PS3 does this....it's called PS+

Ritsujun3966d ago

starchild think she came from the stars.

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zebramocha3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

Of course they won't change because this happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/...

killbillvolume123967d ago

bahahah Can i just say i never seen that youtube link before but i lost my shit.

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II3967d ago

Can we report jokesonyou for SPAM? This is getting ridiculous

slpknt6sic63967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

Microsoft is down, call an ambulance. Wii u wii u wii u. Lol
Sony killed sega and Microsoft is next.

Patrick3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

I love how they are trying so hard to use misdirection as their weapon of choice to try and draw us off all the crap they are trying.
"We’re very happy,… did you see the games on stage during our briefing? Did you see the exclusives?"

Its like, No... dont look over there at all the control and power we are trying to abuse... Look over here at the games and exclusives we bought. Stop looking over there.. look right here... hey .. look look .. games.
Its pathetic, and I wont support them.

Greatness awaits and U R NOT (red)E

Sitdown3967d ago

Ummmmmmm, that's not misdirection......that's called shifting the focus. The backlash is because we know their policies....in your scenario, they are simply shifting the attention to games. But here is the reality....Microsoft has not said much, it's the constant barrage from media that has you thinking misdirection.

Hicken3967d ago

@Sitdown: Shifting the focus= misdirection.

No, really.

LackTrue4K3967d ago

xbox is hoping successes on the the shamily plan!

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AndrewLB3967d ago

Not really. It's pretty well established that Playstation owners are far more fanatical which greatly contributes to the high pre-order PS4 sales and how it's not uncommon on release day for playstation fanboys to lose all sense of rational thought to spend $1500 for one of the first released consoles or one needs to look no further than this thread and some of the fanboy-love going on.

TheTwelve3967d ago

I don't want anything to change their mind. I want Microsoft to be stubborn. I want a generation of two different arguments represented in consoles. And I hope everyone sees how the argument will turn out.

In other words --- this is great stuff!

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iceman063967d ago

Truest thing said on this topic. PLEASE, allow MS to remain stubborn so that this "idea" of restricting games gets put off for as long as possible. We've seen the "votes" on the forums, but when it's time for wallets to come out...that's when the argument will truly be settled.

LackTrue4K3967d ago

yes they will, just dont buy an xboxOne....
gamers just need to hold out.
this will send a clear a55 message to them!

brave27heart3967d ago

If XB1 sales come in under expectation and MS is made aware its because of theur restrictiins it will put others, namely Sony and Nintendo off doing similar in the future.

Let them stick to their policies. I know there are people who want to buy an XB1 but I would urge you all...wait. Delay a year or so, you dont have to buy a PS4 as an alternative if you dont want, but by sacrificing your time to make a stance you can be sure MS gets the message that their consumers are more important and powerful than they seem to realise.

For the record I love the PS4, but paying for plus to play online goes against my values, so I will buy a PS4 at launch but I wont be renewing my Plus membership, as my way of taking a stance, so I do know how hard it is to make sacrifices to make a statement.

voodoopickle3967d ago

sorry Godmars, I accidentally hit disagree. I fully agree with you on this one.

Nafon3967d ago

I hate that! I do that all the time. Why can't we change our vote? and add the ability to infinitely reply, but collapse the 3rd tier of replies by default.

Bhuahahaha3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

jokes is a member of the chinese 50cents army

1 positive post = 50cents

Trekster_Gamer3967d ago

One thing has changed for sure I pre ordered a ps4 not the Xbox One...

Sony changed my mind!

killacal133967d ago

Microsoft's entire business model is flawed, the one is a flawed product, in my opinion at least. Sony and Nintendo in my eyes are the best options this generation, I can't wait for Sony to announce the rest of the exclusives, it can only get better for PS4 gamers, there is no way we can make xbox one blind fans understand that any company that does what Microsoft is doing does not deserve our gamer loyalty. I will pay for the console that respects my rights and provides the best gaming experience. PS4 and Wii U.

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b_one3967d ago

Games are bait, and it works...

DevilishSix3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

It is not in Microoft's culture to change these restrictions. They are a company that does business like a juggernaut. They go into a new business sector and use money to bully companies and people around. They did this to Apple and Lotus in the early days of windows. They did this to Netscape during the early days of intenet browers. Now they are muscling the gaming industry.

It is up to us consumer to say no with our wallets and get them the hell out of this industry. Lets make the Xbox One a failure like Zune.

Eddie201013967d ago

The response to the question sounded very arrogant to me.

Cueil3967d ago

after a few of these guys get fired for Footinmouth syndrome I'm thinking things will change a bit... but not because of Sony... because of consumers

dale_denton3966d ago

JOY wouldn't know anything about sony's share game system or the fact that the psn store does have digital downloads available already as well.. clearly he does not own a ps3.

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DigitalRaptor3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

I wish for the good of the industry and consumers and Xbox fans that Microsoft would drop the disgraceful restrictions.

But, hey at least now everyone can see (without any shadow of a doubt that might have existed) how controlling, greedy, anti-consumer, slimy, money-grubbing and downright disgusting Microsoft are as company. I mean, as if it wasn't already obvious enough.

I always knew it was a bad idea to support them. If you think about it, it was at least the contribution of those who paid for Xbox Live for all these years (the P2P connectivity and the free apps) that set he wheels in motion here. Glad I wasn't a part of the testing grounds.

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DxTrixterz3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

We’re also confident that gamers are going to love our vision of the future and what we’re going to offer for gaming

Is Major Nelson still sleeping or is he just ignorant. Gamer's love the vision of the future? What the hell. I dont think he was using internet this week. Pretty much everybody is bashing X1 for what they doing to it and he still says we gonna love it? I just don't know what to say anymore. Just somebody give me date and place of X1 funeral.

LOGICWINS3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

"Pretty much everybody is bashing X1 for what they doing to it and he still says we gonna love it?"

Well, what is he going to say? That we're going to hate it? Never get into sales/marketing.

Major Nelson isn't an idiot. He knows Sony stomped MS at E3. What he means is that the One will do well regardless since mainstream consumers won't know about the restrictions until they actually hook it up. And even then, most of them won't care.

The One will be successful. Will the PS4 do better worldwide? Yes. But the One will still sell.

Mikelarry3967d ago

So you are saying they are banking the success of their console on the ignorance of consumers. Yuup I have heard it all

Godmars2903967d ago

Most of those people either aren't going to have internet or the proper cable box. They wont be able to do anything with the system, then not be happy about it if they find out how to fix it.

Then again MS could just offer package deals through cable/internet providers, but if they don't things will only get ugly for them.

DragonKnight3967d ago

He doesn't have to say that anyone is going to hate it, what he should do is not comment on it at all. He just makes himself look foolish by trying to make the claim that anyone but publishers are going to love what X1 is doing.

LOGICWINS3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

@Mikelarry- Yes

@DragonKnight- A PR spokesperson that DOESN'T promote? LMAO

@Godmars290- If these people don't have Internet in their homes, then obviously the chances of them knowing about all these restrictions are slim. If they aren't happy with it, thats their problem. If your making a $500 investment, you should know what your getting into.

thehitman3967d ago

@ Logic problem w/ that philosophy is that main stream consumers follow the bandwagon of the hardcore consumers. If the hardcore consumers go 1 way then the mainstream will ultimately follow because they just want to fit in and not care about anything else. If all your friends who adopt a next-gen console early get a ps4 what you going to buy a ps4 to play with them. MS is going to lose out of early adoption they had this gen with their year start and them shooting themselves in the foot with these bad policies and a $100 dollar higher price tag keeps putting more nails in the coffin.

DragonKnight3967d ago

@LOGICWINS: God your name is so ironic it's painful. A PR person can choose what aspects they wish to promote. There is that term so many have used in the industry "we don't comment on..." and leave it at that. Please, try to actually use logic.

Godmars2903967d ago

@LOGICWINS:

Thing is pretty sure people bought the PS3 when it first came out at $600 with no clue that it was also a BR player.

People do not know better.

juandren3967d ago

@LOGICWINS - I completely agree with you. MS has all but said that they are banking on the ignorance of the mainstream consumer. And obviously Major Nalson is going to say good stuff - it's his damn job.

Sony will certainly sell more consoles than Microsoft, but I can guarantee you Microsoft will make more money. Sony knows how to make something incredible, Microsoft knows how to make money. Prepare to get milked to sh*t, Xbox fans

juandren3967d ago

@thehitman: You are forgetting one thing. There are those that consider Gamerpoints life achievements. The same guys that normally perform "boosting" in MP games and buy every single gun camo and stream every single crappy game on YouTube. They will stick with the Xbox just to keep that false sense of achievement. Microsoft is banking on these guys, above all else.

That said, I weep for the future of gaming

OSIRUSSS3967d ago

Lawlz MS knows how to make money? Sony is making money off of every Blu Ray game sold on the XBONE! That's how you make money!

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a_bro3967d ago

there there... he's only doing his job as a mouth piece for the company, its not his fault these policies are in effect

juandren3967d ago

I respect and pity him and a lot of peoole working at MS. I'll bet you anything if they could get a job at Sony with similar pay, they would take it. Nobody likes being hated, but unfortunately money makes the world go round and in this economy a job like that is something to be thankful for. Remember these guys are the puppets of their investors, but in the end they have to keep food on the table for their families.

whoyouwit043967d ago

Good, they don't need to change a thing. Gamers need to open their eyes and stop being afraid of the whats different. What flaw is their in their policy other then a 24 hour check in. which isn't a flaw in my eyes.

Mikelarry3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

You can't upgrade your hard drive if it corrupts you are screwed.

If you don't pay your internet bill guess what no games for you

Edit: ok you can upgrade by attaching another pheriperal to the one yet another inconvenience to the ever growing list

whoyouwit043967d ago

Wrong you can't upgrade the internal hard drive but you can upgrade via a USB external hard drive.
as for internet most people have internet threw DSL/Cable, and a separate service on your cell phone. If you are a adult you will always have either one of the 2 payed.

thehitman3967d ago

@ why

About half of 360 owners have XBL subscription. Which means half of them wont be able to even play games. Gamers need to open their eyes? The only people who will be suffering is MS not gamers when they all buy playstations.

PSVita3967d ago

It makes no sense to not be able to play single player with checking in. Then on top of that your being Forced to install every single game you own.

whoyouwit043967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

That's true if you think about how we game today, but we need to wait and to see what benefits this truly brings before we say it makes no since. Like I said people need to stop fearing the future and what they don't understand. when you look at what Microsoft is doing the the only thing that really is different is a 24 hour check in. you can still trade in your console and games. but look at the better things that always being connected and digital gaming brings, the ability to share 1 copy of a game with 9 people any where in the country, a more powerful console threw the cloud, and no longer having to worry about scratch discs. I really don't understand why people are throwing a fit over what Microsoft is doing. You know, it's funny how people often fear what they don't understand, and what the don't understand they often seek to destroy. because kill Microsoft's Xbox One is almost all I have being seeing the last couple of days.

ShwankyShpanky3967d ago

What you don't get is that people aren't "fearing what they don't understand," they're disliking what they do understand.

You are the one clearly lacking in "understanding." You don't 'understand' that there are conditions outside of "not paying for internet" that result in lack of connectivity, such as ISP problems, natural forces, vacations, military service, etc. I could go on and on about the other areas that in which you obviously lack understanding if you think the 24-hour check-in is the only "flaw" in their policy, but it becomes tedious.

To close, I would recommend you learn the difference between "threw" and "through" before you try lecturing people on what they do or do not "understand."

jmc88883967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

Kinect 2 spying, which they admitted.

They said they would comply with any court order, which includes the unconstitutional (meaning it doesn't follow the rules of the constitution) kangaroo court known as FISA. They even have other things like a 'letter of national security'.

But they don't even need to comply in order for them to get that info, since much of what they get from companies is by unofficially tapping into the lines anyways.

Oh yeah and all the data they get, then gets passed around thousands of companies, of which no doubt quite a few criminals get their hands on it.

I mean Microsoft has given the gov't backdoors since Windows 95, and just today admitted giving access with their web crap.

Also you shouldn't say 'besides' when it comes to the console kill switch they added in case their internet connection tester doesn't work. I mean did Detroit build in a kill switch for your car if you didn't turn on your GPS? Completely unnecessary. No benefit whatsoever.

They say trust us...why? They've been selling you down the river for decades.

It's not being 'afraid of whats different'. That is so hilariously idiotic it's insane.

Technology first adopters are anything but 'afraid of whats different'. What they are concerned about, rightfully so, are unnecessary crap that destroys the product and adds nothing.

Perhaps if the gov't wasn't recording basically everything...text...skype..ema il..web usage and bandwidth..telephone..etc, etc....and MS hadn't been selling us down the river multiple ways for decades there wouldn't be a reason to be concerned. But that's not where we live.

We live in a world where we are told to fear Al-Qeada, a US/Saudi/British creation, and when the Saudi's and Brits used that against us, known as 9/11, we then went to war in two countries where the people that did it weren't at, and almost every planner and funder is still free, which is important, because...we're funding, arming, training Al-Qeada to fight in Syria, and they have chemical weapons we allowed them to get.

None of this is about terrorism, it's about control.

That's why they take our freedoms away. It isn't Al-Qeada.

But they'll sure use that excuse to spy on you and exploit you with that info.

Yep well who cares, when the derivatives implode next, they'll just take your deposits...like in Spain and Cyprus. It's been law here for years. Becoming law all around Europe and Japan just adopted it.

Finally since you are so sure your internet will never be down, you do realize that your internet can be fine and yet if Microsoft's is down, you're screwed too.

If what happened to the PS3 via the PSN happened to Xbone, then you wouldn't be able to use your console for over a month. A complete brick. Why?

Not because the system can't play the games, but because Microsoft has a kill switch on your console, and if your console can't communicate with their servers, it's worthless.

You act as if there is going to be a single benefit to what they did, and to 'wait'. There is no benefit that comes with check-ins and spying. They are check ins and spying. That doesn't make your game or console a lick better.

ShwankyShpanky3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

One of the things that's really pathetic is that the CURRENT EULA for the 360/Kinect ADMITS that they spy, and yet for some reason we actually have to "debate" whether or not it's going to happen.

The current XBL EULA includes the following. Keep in mind that the term "Services" will cover a much broader spectrum with the One.

"If you use ... Kinect, we may also collect data about the way in which you interact with the console and the Services to improve Microsoft products and services."

...and this:

"Personal information collected by Microsoft may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country or region in which Microsoft or its affiliates, subsidiaries, or service providers maintain facilities. You consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country or region."

...and of course:

"we may access or disclose information about you, including the content of your communications, in order to: (a) comply with the law or respond to lawful requests or legal process; (b) protect the rights or property of Microsoft or our customers, including the enforcement of our agreements or policies governing your use of the Services; and (c) act on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers, or the public."

All of these terms subject to the interpretation of MS/govt lawyers. And with the "always on," this can be easily abused. "Oh, we thought you might be doing something against our EULA, so we checked to see if there was any audio or video from the Kinect that was related to that." "Oh, the Feds saw you buying supplies for your indoor veggie garden at the hydroponics store, so they 'lawfully requested' that we check if there was any audio or video related to that."

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Salooh3967d ago

Bubble for acknowledging the truth. These restrictions are not only against gamers. MS obviously will lose a lot of customers . So yes , i think it's definitely connected to politics reasons to make a stunt like that .

On what you guys call it politics :P
It's great to see people who understand the reality . You see people call arabs terrorists but when you come here you will see them victims. Al qaeda are not muslims and they are not sunni, they are just taking islam as the cover of their book . ISLAM is peaceful , we only fight when we are being attacked. Governments/Rulers are united in some way for main reasons. Spying is one of them . They can spy on you from your phone so what will stop them from taking advantage of kinect. That's why i would never go and buy X1 , None of real muslims would do that. Government already did planted cameras on one of protesters and threat him, think how easy will it be to use the kinect ?. They don't even need to hack it lol

Skynetone3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

whoyouwit04

you can make ten accounts on the Xbox one, {only one master account} all your friends can make an account and play the game on your console, {that's of course they don't lock the game to one account} if they log into that account from a different Xbox one they can play that game for one hour

if you thing you can buy forza and share it with ten of your mates you should really lay off the drugs

the mystery is, can you still play forza while your mate is logged into that account, another mystery is how many times can your mate play for an hour, before they make you buy the game

killacal133967d ago

Why must you blindly follow ?????????

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7220h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18814h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio4h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga7h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21836h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga5h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus230m ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

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purple1019h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos9h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac8h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1018h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic6h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 17h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 14h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 12h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 5h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 6h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 2h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 14h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 16h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 16h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 13h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 15h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 14h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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