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Microsoft looking into playing games offline on Xbox One

The Xbox One may eventually work disconnected from the internet for more than 24 hours.

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Godmars2903967d ago

If they're going to make it playable offline, it has to be fully playable offline.

Still can't believe that they thought that was a good idea.

zeal0us3967d ago

I wouldn't get my hopes up

-Before E3
Major Larry: We're looking into players feedback

-E3
The Xbox needs to be connected at least once 24hr, used games restriction and you can only loan your games once.

Major Larry: Xbox is the future *avoids all the questions that involves drm, restrictions and requirements* *Gives generic PR answer to any hard question*

DragonKnight3967d ago

You watched the AngryJoe video didn't you?

I hated how any time the word DRM was brought up, Larry went into immediate salesman mode and said "you're not looking at the benefits."

DRM =/= Benefits.

Mikelarry3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

They keep saying DRM and benefits I ask what benefits does DRM have.

It does not help me enjoy the game any better just an inconvenience to hinder my experience just cause in the future ms will like a piece of that used fee pie. You know they gonna do it you will be naive to believe ms gives anything for free

SonyPS43967d ago

Nah, DRM=benefits...to MS and game publishers that is.

loulou3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

I should think that the pre-order tally is already begining to tel m$ what is going to happen if things dont change.

they have less than 5 months to change certain elements. if they dont, then i cant see them selling more than 30-35 mil consoles next gen.

stop the online checks, allow installs but make people keep the disc in the tray and going back to passes will give the xbox one a massive boost.

ofcourse keep on-line only games, or games that are going to use the cloud. but just advertise the fact.

the higher price tag although not great i can/will live with. but other people wont when put together with everything else above that i mentioned

Shane Kim3967d ago

It don't even benefit publishers. One of the top arguments against DRM is that publishers and so on spend millions on developing/expanding this DRM only to be hacked by some 15 year old russian kid.

badz1493967d ago

pfft...like playing offline is something new!

Ritsujun3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

Okay, they're looking into it.
I bet soon they'd reveal that they're extending the check-in to 48 hours or 7 days.

/lol

dedicatedtogamers3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

The Xbox One will not be able to play offline. It simply won't.

- the system is designed to play from the hard-drive after installing/downloading
- your library is designed to be shared with people in your "Family"
- the 24-hour check is to see if you traded the game disc (because you installed it to the HDD)

There are too many factors involved. In order to play offline, Microsoft would have to:
- change the system architecture to allow you to play straight from the disc (believe it or not, this isn't a simply line of code)
- forbid you from playing your game installs unless you are online
- forbid you from sharing your Library

Folks, the Xbox One is going to be how it is now. It may change a few months after launch, but it will never lose the 24-hour check-in.

no_more_trolling3967d ago

^^^

ever heard of firmware update?

no_more_trolling3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

double post

abzdine3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

I don't think they will and even if they do I already chose PS4! Sony first party games have no equal and third party will look better on it. On top of all this it's cheaper.
they did say that they built the machine for that so do you really expect them to change everything a few months before release? They also Said that they have expected this type of reaction from gamers and the media so do you still think their arrogance will stop suddenly?

Greatness awaits
4>1

loulou3967d ago

dedicatedtogamers

i honestly dont think that you know what you are talking about. it seems to me that you are hoping more than anything.

as no more trolling beat me to saying... a firmware update could resolve a multitude of issues.

indysurfn3966d ago (Edited 3966d ago )

They have actually been looking to do this for awhile now....FOR THE MILILTARY. And a few countries that have very little internet. That does not help most of the people that are right now on the internet complaining, now does it. Looking at this article they seem to be trying to confuse people into thinking it will allow 10 people to play the same game at once. No from the start you have to install a game and get online. If once you get online they find out it is on other machines. They will deactivate it from all but one of them. Don't be fooled again by this play on words. When you read that article remember the person being quoted is REDDIT then the second quote is Major Nelson. It is a sneaky way of presenting a questionnaire because most people are used to one side doing the quoting, and the other side doing the answering.

the ONLY THING major nelson actually said was:
"I’d have to check w/ the engineers, but I don’t see why that would not be possible."

Which was actually nothing because everyone knows it is "possible"! the real question is are the big wigs willing!!!

blind-reaper3966d ago

@DragonKnight that interview is pretty fucking amazing, I really recommend everyone to see it to know more about how MS is managing all this DRM thing.

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Why o why3967d ago

This is good. The noise must be getting to an unbearable level.. You can't ignore a crying baby for too long.

Well done to those who made noise in the right places. Even if ms only make a couple u turns it will be a great milestone for us consumers. It'll probably be written into business study textbooks....

Despite my pre ejaculation, I'm not sure how they can do this whilst always having to install games to the hdd. What are the workarounds?

HammadTheBeast3967d ago

Week-month long period before checking?

Cueil3967d ago

simple... by putting it on the users shoulders instead of shouldering it themselves... they could used a pass... only the pass in a one time code... to sell a game you would have to then select some option to get your key back and then give it to a friend or sell it. That or they could go with a authentication check were you only need to be online ONCE and then if you wanted to sell/loan/trade your game you would have to go back online to do that.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3967d ago

lol how do u look into it??? Just stop the bullsh!t!!! and it's over.

SilentNegotiator3967d ago

Because according to Microsoft, they don't know their own policies. Like when they announced 24 hour checks and played dumb for ~month.

BlindGuardian3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

This is just an attemp by a clever redditor to pit this guy against his own lies, they're not going to change anything because with an offline mode and no disc required to run games from HDD a single disc could be installed on hundreds of consoles and be playable from all of them at the same time.

Their standard line for the last few days has been that the 24hs check is so you can share your game library with your family, but that's just a lie, the check is to remove games from your Hard drive which show as sold on their data base, or hold all your games hostage until they can tell which ones you still own.

So this is just is logical question that he can't answer truthfully because an honest answer would conflict with the talking points he was given.

Rhaigun3967d ago

Exactly. Because, whether its a 24 hr check or a 120 hr check, its still a mandatory check.

koolaid2513967d ago

I've been connected to the internet for 18 years I even had Comcast broadband and Dsl at the same damn time one time lol.

blackmanone3967d ago

"I've been connected to the internet for 18 years I even had Comcast broadband and Dsl at the same damn time one time lol."

This mentality floors me, it really does. So you mean to tell the world that in 18 years, your internet has never gone down? Ever? Not once? You're lying to yourself and everyone on here.

LackTrue4K3967d ago

"the shamily plan" helps!!!
lol...

Cueil3967d ago

you don't see that as a benefit?

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kparks3967d ago

This is not them looking into changing anything lol... Someone askd a question and the PR guy didnt want to answer point blank!

ALLWRONG3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

MS made the mistake of misjudging the consumers desire, demand, right, or whatever to turn sh*t off when they damn well please.

Garbanjo0013967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

I say good luck, but the damage is done. Running an Xbox in offline mode is something that should have been implemented in the beginning, I say go for it if it means getting XBox off the ground, I highly doubt this will happen, either way Sony is hitting the bank big time with the PS4. I plan to keep posted on this in the next few months, I highly doubt the validity of this claim though. "Getting in touch with the engineers," is like saying "you're right, it's bullshit our bad . . . we need to fix this and this seems to be our loophole, so we don't look like complete f**king idiots here."

I am in no way supporting XBox, PS4 had me at "hello." Or had me at "$399." :)

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StoutBEER3967d ago

Oh god. They possibly change it and your STILL bitching. No use talking to you.

NewZealander3967d ago

if people truly want microsoft to pay attention then go comment on places like www.xboxshun.com etc.

my main concern is the online check in, i know plenty of people that dont have the internet, the DRM is also a huge concern, lucky i tend to not lend or buy second hand games, but i often rent a game before i decide to buy it.

but as a gamer i still see huge potential in both new consoles, only time will tell but MS has a matter of months to put this right, if not sales will take a hit, but no matter what the sales are im still getting both, im a gamer...i love tech, i hate fanboys.

mcstorm3966d ago

I agree with what your saying. To me nothing Microsoft have said about the Xbox one has me worded about getting the console. I have my 360 Wiiu ps3 and home server connected to the internet 24/7 and my internet has never been down for more than 24 hours.

I also never give my game to other people as the game I play tend to be games other people have to for mp and this is one thing that has changed alto this gen in terms of most people are buying the same games to play each other on.

But that said there will be people around the world who don't want there console on line or don't have the internet but that said I don't see people like this looking to buy a Xbox or Ps to. I also think looking at how many xboxs have been sold and how many people have gold shows most people who buy a Xbox also have the internet.

I do see Ms looking to change things a little though as there are some people who will not want to get a one because of these reasons but that said most people on here seem to be fan boys who want to rip into Microsoft when ever they can. For years now they have said they will always pick Sony because they don't charge for playing online but now Sony have said this they have gone quiet over it.

If anything the games industry is very fickle in terms of how its run and what happens.

If you look back to when the Wii 360 and ps3 came out people were up in arms about the ps3 price, having to install games and long load times and a very poor psn service.

Fast forward to now and Sony have improved things but so have Nintendo and also Microsoft.

I think things will change over the gen and just because people are not liking what a device is like now dose not mean they won't like it in 12 months time when changes are made ect.

For me Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all have very good consoles to support all offer different ways to play games and are all looking to go in there own direction which to me is better for gamers then having 3 consoles all offering the Same games the same ways to play and the same services.

Halochampian3967d ago

The whole reason for the online checks (once per 24 hours automatically at night) is for the family sharing. It allows you and ten family/friends to share your library. It needs the check to be able and keep this updated because due to licencing issues they cant have all ten people playing the same copy of the game.

I know it is cumbersome for some. But for a majority of people, this will not effect them. The Xbone will auto-update during the night. And then they can play offline that day if they like.

If the family share plan does some really cool things, it may turn out to be worth it. Right now, it has potential but we will have to wait and see

nirwanda3967d ago

Too be slightly fair to MS most of the next gen games at E3 shown would require an internet connection to get the most out of them on both systems and making everyone be always on is the only way you could get the whole cloud computing thing to ever work.
I'm still getting a PS4 instead though just purely based on the gpu rumours/leaks/dev comments.

BallsEye3967d ago

I BET if they would make it playable offline, fanboys would find another thing to pick on, not looking at the good stuff at all (hello family game sharing!)

jmc88883967d ago

Well they are complete morons for even thinking of it. I think a bunch of 8th graders could of planned the Xbox One better, and they wouldn't of given it that crappy name either.

But if you look on Amazon you have PS4 packages garnering the 1,3,5,6,8th positions.

True Xbox One has #2, but that's ALL of it combined.

But people have pointed that out so I wanted to give you some other thoughts.

If the xbox one is selling so good....

Then why is the PS4 camera sold more than the top rated Xbox One game. That's right, more PS4 cameras then Forza 5. Sony hasn't even talked about the PS4 camera really.

PS4 has four games in the top 20. Xbox One has 0. Their best, again, is Forza at #22.

The funny thing is if you look on the right, the most 'wished for' thing is the Xbox One and 3rd most wished for is the PS4. Because obviously these were wishes from before the knowledge of what MS was trying to pull on its customers. Now that people know the downsides (drm, spying, etc). Know it's $100 more and yet the PS4 is also has 50-125 percent more raw power those wishes are not translating into sales.

Forza 5 is #22
Battlefield 4 is #28
Dead Rising is #31
Call of Duty is #33
Ryse is #36
Destiny on xbox is #47
Watch Dogs on xbox is #69
Kinect Sports: Rivals is #77
Titanfall on xbox is #99
Madden on xbox is not listed in top 100

On PS4
Watch Dogs is #11 (58 spots higher)
Battlefield 4 is #14 (14 spots higher)
Killzone Shadow Fall is #17
Desinty is #18 (29 spots higher)
Infamous Second Son #26
Call of Duty is #32 (1 spot higher)
Final Fantasy XV #41
Kingdom Hearts III #42
Knack is #56
The Order: 1886 is #63
Madden 25 #81
Fifa 14 #92

So as you can see here the PS4 games are selling much stronger. Games like Watchdogs, Destiny, and Battlefield 4 are selling much more on PS4.

PSN network cards are #7 and #12 compared to #15 and #16 for Xbox live.

Dual Shock 4 controllers is #9
Xbox one controller is #23

So in other words, at least for Amazon, PS4 is absolutely tearing a new asshole on the xbox one.

Thunderhawkxbox3966d ago

Who give a fuck about u Sony fan boy and amazon not only amazon selling games and hardware amazom it's not even accurate so F off and sit on ur fat ass and play your ps3 games

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fermcr3966d ago (Edited 3966d ago )

I agree. I find it unbelievable how Microsoft could commit so many errors with the Xbox One. They where in a great position with the X360 and completely fu**ed up their next gen console. Who the hell in Microsoft thought the X1 with it's restrictions was a brilliant idea ?

Microsoft has some serious thinking to do and i don't think there's time to radically change (improve) the X1 before release.

EDIT: First thing to do is change that stupid name... then remove those restrictions.

CerebralAssassin3966d ago

I just dont understand why you cant just pop the disc back in the system once the 24 hr period hits. The whole idea of installing the entire game onto cloud is great. Verification on you having a legit copy makes perfect sense. But if you miss the verification time table you should be able to prove you own that game by having a physical disc in your possession and should be able to put the disc in to verify authenticity. I dont knkw if its just me but this seems like the common sense answer to play games offline.

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ThatCanadianGuy5143967d ago

Don't count on it.These decisions were made years ago by higher ups then the xbox team.Redmond HQ gave the O.K and now we just have to #Dealwithit

NameRemoved00173967d ago

Or just buy a PS4 and dodge the entire failure of DRM and online always all together while getting an already superior console.

Software_Lover3967d ago

The only problem with your statement is it's not "always on line". Its check in once every 24 hours either by internet or mobile hotpot on your phone.

I dont agree with it either way, but just wanted to correct your statement.

DigitalRaptor3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

@ Software_Lover

There might be a distinct difference, but to the gamer and the consumer who this affects, it might as well be the same thing. It's basically saying that if you don't connect at least once every day for the rest of the Xbox One's lifecycle, you cannot play. To the people it concerns, the difference is non-existent because the concerns are identical.

koolaid2513967d ago

People forget that you can use the hot spot on your sell phone so basically you can play xbox 1 anywhere!!!

NameRemoved00173966d ago

@koolaid251 you going to pay $15 a month just so you can do that?

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vector4153967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

lol...always online is a killer for games. Look at Diablo 3. I know that game isn't that good, but one of the main reasons I think it didn't do well is because it's always online, no matter what, you cannot play it offline.

I remember the days of playing D2 offline on a laptop while I was somewhere with no internet connection...good times.

Now Xbox One says I can't do this. I am just really glad PS4 isn't going in the same direction! I am a life long Xbox fan who is probably going to buy a PS4 this time.

creepjack3967d ago

an online requirement has nothing to do with the reasons people dont like Diablo 3, lol.

HammadTheBeast3967d ago

Partially. A better example is sim city. Although its because they forced the game to work with always online, and the game play is sucky now.

vector4153967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

Yeah Sim City is a better example you're right. But I still stick to my Diablo 3 comment, because many gamers were REALLY pissed when they paid 60 bucks for a game they couldn't even play because of online issues. This wouldn't have happened if the game had an offline single player mode.

The point I'm trying to make is, I am sure a lot of gamers would prefer to have an option to play games offline if they wanted, and would be less likely to purchase a game or console that required for you to be online, or have to connect to the intrnet, just to play.

RavageX3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

Oops, what I had to say had already been said so...carry on.

fermcr3966d ago (Edited 3966d ago )

I agree, Diablo 3 is not very good, but saying Diablo 3 didn't do well ? Are you referring to sales ?
That game sold millions and millions of copies. More then 10 million the last i heard.

Gravitic3967d ago

Wait, so that guy I just sent my digital game to, would have it revoked when I decide to go in to offline mode. It doesn't make sense. What stops me authenticating, sending a copy and then going offline to get the other benefits.

Moonman3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

They got the word they f###'d up. haha

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7216h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle3h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188148m ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio31m ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga2h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21832h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1015h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos5h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac4h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1014h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic2h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 13h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 10h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 7h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 1h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 2h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies22h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 10h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic20h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9020h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 12h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 11h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 8h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 11h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 10h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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