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Next Gen to Respawn Exclusive Deals, PS4 and Xbox 720 Industry Pains

The next generation is almost here, but with both the PS4 and the next Xbox thought to release within weeks of each other, every exclusive will count. The Daily Reaction duo of Seb and Dan discuss which console will receive more launch exclusives, why Microsoft is pursuing 3rd party exclusives and why that hurts everyone. - PSLS

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GameNameFame4029d ago

PS4 is permanent exclusives.

and Next box 3rd party exclusives will come to PS4 after a year.

GalacticEmpire4029d ago

There really is something unnervingly shady about third party exclusive deals. I always imagine a backroom with loads of goons playing poker where money changes hands and 'things get done'.

MikeMyers4029d ago

Like Virtua Fighter 5 and Final Fantasy XIII? The damage is already done after a year. Sony did this with Grand Theft Auto on the PS2. I think it's pretty safe to say that was a smart move. It also came out later on the Xbox.

I don't see why so many have issues when Microsoft does it other than they hate Microsoft and love Sony.

showtimefolks4029d ago

let's see E3 will be a lot of fun to watch, also ms should show few new games on may 21st to give a taste of whats to come at E3

i would be really surprised if EA let respwan go to MS, they have a contract and even if their partners program ends, they will still finish the games in development. Also EA went through legal trouble for respwan because Activision accused EA of stealing away their talent so it will be very hard to imagine EA saying go ahead

we are excited about a new IP we know next to nothing about, also i would much rather MS invest that money into small development teams and let them work on some new Ip's

sooner or later 3rd party exclusives end up on other consoles

GameNameFame4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

They just dont blindly love MS like you do.

I can afford to wait a year for more patched balanced DLCs included version of Next box's 3rd party exclusive on PS4.

MikeMyers4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

I blindly love Microsoft? If you're going to make wild accusations please show me where that's what I do.

It does make good business sense to have timed exclusives. I never said i prefer it. Most game sales happen in the beginning. How well did Oblivion sell on the PS3 compared to the Xbox 360? How about Bioshock? How well did GTA sell on the PS2? Now look at how GTA sells on the PS3 and Xbox 360. That isn't blind love towards Microsoft, it's what we call reality.

I also imagine Battlefield sells better on the PS3 in comparison to how well Call of Duty does compared to the Xbox 360. Both are shooters but Call of Duty is heavily marketed on the Xbox 360 and they also got timed exclusive DLC. Is saying that mean I'm blindingly loving Microsoft? Just because you can't say two good words about Microsoft doesn't mean everyone else has to be like that. It's called being rational.

DOMination-4029d ago

Nobody on this site had a problem with Ni No Kuni being a third party party exclusive. where were the articles then saying how bad it was for the industry?

I think more exclusives are better. For each console. This gen they had an identidy crisis, a few games aside they were pretty much the same. This time around id like to see them more defined.

Oh_Yeah4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

@MikeMyers the difference is while Sony does get 3 party exclusives from time to time, they also have plenty of their own 1st party exclusives... Something Microsoft does not, that is their problem.

MikeMyers4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

"MikeMyers the difference is while Sony does get 3 party exclusives from time to time, they also have plenty of their own 1st party exclusives... Something Microsoft does not, that is their problem."

Fair enough but again why is it a problem when Microsoft gets 3rd party timed exclusive deals and not for Sony and Nintendo? Obviously Microsoft is trying to be more attractive in comparison by telling people this is the console you should get the game on. It's no different than Sony getting GTA on the PS2 or Virtua Fighter on the PS3. Resident Evil on the Gamecube as well. If 1st party games are more important to you then support the system that you like those games on. This isn't about 1st party exclusives.

I myself don't think any 3rd party developer should be favoring one system over the other. They should do away with exclusive deals and let the 1st party games sell the hardware. Unless those 3rd party titles were made solely for that unique hardware like Wii motion controls at the time. However there has always been 3rd party deals and there likely always will be. People cannot pick and choose what they think is more 'ethical' just because they like one company more than the other or one has a better 1st party library.

shadow27974028d ago

The only third party exclusives I don't like are ones that happen during already an established series. Like Splinter Cell Conviction or Resident Evil 4. Fans of the series can't play the game on hardware that lets them play the other games in the series.

If it's a new IP, it's less of a deal to me.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4028d ago

@GameNameFame
lol PS4 gets extra Destiny content day 1!!

But the game look kinda ok so far.

GameNameFame4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

I just heard sales talk too many times and stereotype people.If i am wrong, my mistake.

As for sales, I dont care.

As I said, I can afford to wait 1 year for DLC included plus patched version of the game. Not to mention cheaper prob.

Also, I never said it wasnt a problem when Sony and Nintendo do this crap 3rd party exclusives.

@Shutupandtakemoney

I dont care for extra content unless its essential.

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Aceman184029d ago

for me this is not a big deal i know what games i'll be getting for PS4. as for 720/whatever its called i won't be buying it as i won't pay to play online.

plus Respawn one game wouldn't be enough for me to shell out $400-500 for it, and im not going to pay full price for half a game.

JeffGUNZ4029d ago

Dude, buy whatever you want, but don't kid yourself. PSN+ was nothing more then Sony testing the waters of a paid subscription base to it's users. Their is nothing wrong with a paid subscription as long as the price justifies the content you receive. That being said, all those features we saw at the 02/20/2013 Sony reveal, Cloud based storage, Gaiki, sharing features, and all the other cool stuff they will show is going to cost us. Companies can't continue to provide more technological features and cool add-ons at no charge.

Aceman184028d ago

@Jeff

i said "pay to play online" this i refuse to do period. yes i subscribe to PS+ but i can still play online for FREE, and besides PS+ is optional i don't need it to play online

zeal0us4029d ago

Doubt it, if anything it will be quite the opposite. MS gaining Respawn exclusive won't hurt Sony since Sony already got a portfolio of exclusives.

Gaining Respawn exclusive really won't do anything to MS market they're a billion dollar corporation. One single game can't mass enough damage to half their market.

3 party exclusives doesn't ruin it for anyone. It's one of the driving factors when some consumer buys a new consoles.

jutt4029d ago

"Respawn is developing a multi-platform product based on new video game IP and funded through its publishing deal with Electronic Arts"

source :- http://www.respawn.com/game...

MYSTERIO3604028d ago

it seems we may have a lot more timed exclusivity deals from MS

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TrendyGamers4029d ago

DLC exclusivity is pretty much a given for Ghosts.

doctorstrange4029d ago

Exclusivity that doesn't actually take advantage of the single hardware just sucks. That counts for all platforms, mind, as they all do it (just MS usually more often).

I want my exclusives to make use of the console's particular specialties.

Utalkin2me4029d ago

That's why i have nor will buy any DLC from Activision published game, period.

Wedge194029d ago

The fact the Ghosts is being featured at the 'Box' event on the 21st pretty much assures that exclusivity content will be prevalent next gen, stronger than ever.

JeffGUNZ4029d ago

and it also shows me that the nextbox will release no later then 11/05/2013.

Jek_Porkins4029d ago

So PlayStation Life Magazine takes issue if Microsoft has the money to buy third party exclusivity? That is shocking /s

They are also going on and on about more rumors from Kotaku of all places, not sure I'd buy into Microsoft having so many issues internally that they wont have any games to launch with.

DragonKnight4029d ago

The fact that you couldn't see that the article was pretty fair and well thought out before you made your comment shows where your mind was and that it wouldn't matter what they said. You apparently completely missed the point.

Jek_Porkins4029d ago

Actually I didn't miss the point, I read the entire thing. I would agree that from a standpoint of Respawn Entertainment they'd take a loss from a market, but the rest was speculation over rumors.

If it hadn't mattered, I wouldn't have bothered to click on the article in the first place.

DragonKnight4029d ago

The first part of your comment attempt to discredit the article based on the name of the site. This leads people to believe one, or all, of 3 things. First, you're a fanboy. Second, you didn't read the article. Third, you read the article and didn't get it. That's all on you.

The second part of the article merely reinforced the first part of your comment and what it means. They were clear to state that these are rumours coming from a site they don't exactly hold in the best regards. They only included the rumours for the sake of discussion, not because they believe the rumours or are endorsing negative Xbox 720 rumours. The article had no bias present in it and yet your comment reeks of the implication that it does based solely on the name of the site.

JeffGUNZ4029d ago

@ Jek_Porkins.

Actually, Respawn will not lose money in the market being exclusive to MS. The amount of money MS probably threw at them will more then likely cover that loss. Plus, MS has backed COD so much that a lot of non-hardcore gamers who don't know any better would think COD is only for the xbox, since MS backs their advertising. Respawn comes from IW, they know MS is a horse that is going to bring them places.

hazardman4029d ago

I was thinking same thing it don't make sense. I mean they got the reveal date out and then said that Full launch lineup will be shown at E3.

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DragonKnight4029d ago

@jeffgoldwin: Yay, I have another fan. Seems that you have some reading problems though as I never said the author's opinion was fact (go ahead and read my comments and you won't find that at all) or that the rumours were legitimate (that's an oxymoron), and the "no bias" part is accurate. Try to find blatant Playstation fanboyism in the article and quote it, I'll wait.... none? Thought so.

And finally, I find it hilarious that you accuse me of being a fanboy despite your clear focus on me and your personal attack on me even though you got all of your facts wrong and I in no way made a positive or negative statement towards any platform.

Thanks for being a fan. Ciao.

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Evil_Ryu4029d ago

Those guys at respawn entertainment are extremely talented they were the brains behind the first modern warfare before the franchise went down the toilet.

dalibor4029d ago

That is true and people should not forget that. But you have to remember this industry is always ever changing. People jump boat and sometimes just sometimes... developers do lose their charm that made them well liked and all. Lets see what Respawn does and hopefully things turn out for the better.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 3h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos18h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb3317h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC8h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 9h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies21h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear2116h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 13h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 12h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC8h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon6158616h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k412h ago(Edited 12h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k412h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 12h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 2h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage19h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 11h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 11h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 3h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn197916h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage19h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 18h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin1d 23h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 18h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 4h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 18h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 4h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney23h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii1d 23h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d 22h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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