Is the Wii U a Failure?

Let’s be honest here for a moment, from a critical and financial prospective, the Wii U is in a lot of trouble right now. It’s barely sold 4 Million units, and there are absolutely no big games or interesting titles in sight. Does that mean the Wii U is a failure? Let’s take a close look at the consoles current situation, future prospective and undeniable facts to find out.

[Dylila]

ask most of the fans and youll hear no. to a person who isnt a diehard fan things might seem bleak when it comes to the wii u but for the audience its targeted towards they are quite content with the game pickings and upcoming games for the device. most are also waiting for the wii u exclusives so even though people may see some third party titles under-performing, not getting a lot of third party support or engines it isnt so alarming to the diehard fans who love the nintendo exclusives and buy nintendio devices for just those titles.

[Donnieboi]

True, can't argue with that. But it sure lost a hell of a lot of the core audience and virtually all of their casuals. But I hear what your saying when u mention the diehard Nintendo fans buying into it no matter what Nintendo does (or neglects to do).

[PopRocks359]

There are plenty of Nintendo fans here who have acknowledged the Wii U's issues and lower than par sales in the past. I myself have already stated that its library is in heavy need of expansion and the marketing for the platform has been particularly disappointing.

I don't believe it's a failure. Yet. It can turn out to be after more time on the market and a continuance of low sales, but I don't believe that will ultimately be the case.

Will it make Wii level success? Probably not, but then neither did the PS3 or 360 and both of those are currently profitable systems that sell much better than when they initially launched.

[Theyellowflash30]

Donnieboi, I know your trying to get hits for your site, but you're rushing to conclusions. The Failure of a system just outsold the PS3 in Japan with a HD port and Game & Wario.

Guys like you were on the same bandwagon when the 3DS was not doing well.... Nintendo will release their first party hardware, and sales will go up.

[SilentNegotiator]

@Poprocks

"Will it make Wii level success? Probably not, but then neither did the PS3 or 360 and both of those are currently profitable systems that sell much better than when they initially launched"

Stop trying to connect Wii U to Ps3/360's "horrible" beginnings. Ps3 and 360 NEVER had months as bad as Wii U has had this year, even in the worst of software droughts.

Ps3 and 360 have had much more steady sales over their life times. They were stable and knew where to aim their systems. Wii U neither panders to the hardcore (with weaker online and small leap from systems they already own) nor the casual (those that bought Wii for the supposed fitness); THAT is why it is selling slowly. Not because 'every system goes through this'

[AngelicIceDiamond]

At the moment Nintendo did set themselves up for a big dry spell this season (spring) with no big games, in fact its been happening since early this year.

I know Nintendo has some secret AAA's in the works right now, but I'm having a hard time seeing it being form third party. Deadspace, GTA, Bioshock, Dead Island, Saint Row, BF (EA games) and future Epic games aren't making it to Wii U. The fact that EA and Epic aren't on board with the Wii U is devastating.

Nintendo's console is indeed current gen. The masses can't tell the difference with graphical differences with PS360, and even if they can they don't wanna shell out 300$ for a minor difference or games that they played before.

The Wii U is simply late to the party. It would be acceptable if they released the Wii U in late 2009 or 2010.

I just think we have to wait until E3 and see what kind of games they showcase. Though, Nintendo shouldn't rely only on holiday season for games, they need to stay consistent through out the year. Take Sony's approach and release games through out the calender year. That would benefit Nintendo greatly imo. They could use that exposure And the exclusives.

[LOL_WUT]

I would say yes, given the fact on how bad the company has been doing as of late. The bad business decisions would be too long to list. ;)

As for the casuals they would have no say in this as they probably wouldn't even know what a Wii U is. And theres really no point in mentioning the diehards as you can't reason with them.

[N4g_null]

I'm not sure why having pc big games is important to a wiiu owner when they have a pc and most do. No one was ever going to buy a wiiu for gta when it's on pc and better. What matters are all those Mario kart gamers, resort gamers, smash bro gamers, along with a nice helping of my fav platinum, treasure and sequels to 3 unique RPGs launched on the wii.

Also monster hunter and dragon quest is a really nice combo. Wario ware and wiiu fit are going to do fine. Plus add in a pc and suddenly you don't have to wait on the ps4.

Also the third party house of cards is starting to fall. This is a bad time to release a console over $400.

[_QQ_]

why is everone making a big deal about epic not working with wiiu, gears was okay and judgement was meh.

Nintendo never has huge third party and does fine,thats one of the reasons you get a gaming PC so you don't have to play handicapped third party titles on consoles.

[AKR]

@SilentNegotiator

~ And would you believe that the Wii U has actually sold better than than the PS3 or 360 in the same time period (3 months) even with it's terrible game drought?

- Check the facts for yourself good sir, BEFORE, you comment.

[badz149]

but it sure does not perform good enough to let Reggie's face pop out in the news here and there like it was with the Wii!

[kikizoo]

"Will it make Wii level success? Probably not, but then neither did the PS3 or 360 and both of those are currently profitable systems that sell much better than when they initially launched."

You can't compare, since wiiu is selling less, and more difficult for them : ps3/360 dont' have to compete with better consoles (wiiu will suffer big time from ps4/720 launch)

[profgerbik]

Is it opposite day? I know it is horrible for me to bring this up but it kills.

I didn't care for what you said before but I think it is still kind of a joke you are changing what you say all the sudden.

Probably cause you got banned so many times. It is just funny seeing you in all this Wii U thread being such a strong support now, before you did literally nothing but trash the system, now you are doing everything to defend.

[Pushagree]

Yes.

[1nsaint]

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[stage88]

Yes because Mario 743 will save the system.

[g2gshow]

nintindo is going to have to fight this one out on foot the're will be no flying above collecting coins from the legion of causal gamers this time around.how many times will they rely on miyamoto to save the day .They will survive but at what cost i see them in last place on hardware sales unless Microsoft drop's the ball big time or they star selling the wiiu dirt cheap an fall back on strength of software

[Ziriux]

Yes. Get it right with the software and you'll succeed. Need newer IP's more innovation.

[Donnieboi]

^ This. Plain and simple.

[Theyellowflash30]

Nintendo is innovation. The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Xenoblade 2, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, Pikmin 3.... These are some of the most unique and innovative games coming out.

Sony and MS are one boring shooter after another, Killzone, Uncharted, Resistance, MAG, Halo, Battlefield, COD, it's the same junk. Shooters. Nintendo always bring new gameplay experiences that are unique. How many games on the market right now do what Fire Emblem Awakening does?

How many games play like Luigi's Mansion? Nintendo will always bring innovation and New IPs, Dillion's Rolling Western, HarmoKnight are two examples of new IPs Nintendo is doing.

[Picture_Dancer]

@Theyellowflash30

Yeah Nintendo is super innovative. Same ip's and game characters for almost 20 yers. All I hear from N fans is: Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Mario Cart, Smasz Bros. The same games all over again. intendo is is the least innovative company in terms of games and new IP's

[N4g_null]

Have fun with your zombi hobos and the next infamous or that fps cut scene generator. You guys are in the wrong hobby. This is about gameplay ip not a new name on another fps. This is about RPGs, platformers, bullet swarms, rts, fighting games, puzzle games, you know games that require skill.

Stop trying to turn gaming into bad cinema or reality tv. Eye candy is starting to look a lot like a bad vfx driven movie syndrome. I'm not sure why Sony even made a new controller. They did not even use what was in the last one.

Third parties are walking them selves into a corner not even a dead end. Expect more layoffs.

[Theyellowflash30]

@Picture Dancer, yet I didn't name Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon in my post. Did you just reply to me with a side step of all the games I listed?

[brave27heart]

@Theyellowflash
Three of those games you mentioned are sequels so although they may be good calling them unique and innovative is maybe not totally accurate. Also we dont know if these games are actually any good. I could list 100 unique and innovative games on platforms other than the WiiU that are truly awful, so unique and innovative doesnt mean good.

Also dismissing offerings in other platforms is shallow and narrow minded. Uncharted is a great experience, Cod and Battlefield might not be hugely innovative each year but they have millions of people playing each week for a reason. Then there are those unique and innovative experiences that are good. Journey, Braid, Limbo, Walking Dead (telltale games one).

Nintendo relies heavily on its established franchises for success. How innovative is Mario Kart? Zelda? Smash Bros? They're not the greatest at innovation but they are solid, really good games.

All you Nintendo diehards need to stop blindly defending Nintendo. Its always going to have great first party games but instead of dismissing other consoles games to defend your own how about actually asking for some of these games on the WiiU? Wouldnt you like to have great 1st part games AND games like Bioshock, GTA, Battlefield etc?

[_QQ_]

Cod has a bunch of bros playing, either that or they play madden. i own a wiiu but i also get to play all the ther games you mentioned because i own a ps3, gonna get a ps4,plus i have a gaming pc so i don't have to play handicapped third party titles on consoles.Most people own more than just one console. Plus the major Mario, Metroid, and Zelda releases for the wii last year are better than any ps3 exclusive other than mgs4.

[1upgamer99]

Well I think Nintendo got it right renewing the Eternal Darkness IP a couple weeks ago....That game is amazing.

[StrongMan]

So far............... Yes.

[Root]

It was rushed out in my opinion, if it had launched with Mario Kart U and another game like Super Smash Bros U or maybe the new Zelda then have Pikman 3 and maybe Luigis Mansion 2 (instead of the 3DS version) coming out a few months after then it would of lured people in. I mean I know I would of gotten one straight away for Mario Kart.

It just feels like Nintendo didn't have a plan at all, they just thought "Ahhh we'll be fine the Wii Sold a ton people will eat this up"....

[badz149]

it was announced a full year and a half from release thus making the recent game drought a bit more unacceptable.

[Fierce Musashi]

Far too soon to say. The best truly has yet to come. Til then, it's merely just jumping to conclusions for the most part.

To Aceitman
A drought like this doesn't automatically make it failure. Espcially when it has multi million dollar franchises under it's belt. It was the same thing with the 3DS before Mario 3D Land and Kart and it's later, more aggressive advertising. Like I said, it's too soon to say. :/

[aceitman]

I don't know with only 8 confirmed games with release dates from april to September it looks bleak http://www.ign.com/games/up...
ps3 has 31 http://www.ign.com/games/up... 360 has 26 http://www.ign.com/games/up...
and 7 wiiu games are multiplatform and remember that is confirmed with a release date , pikmin 3 not confirmed with date or The Wonderful 101 .

[PopRocks359]

8 confirmed games? Seven of which are multiplatform?

I don't suppose the new 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda/Wind Waker HD, X, Bayonetta 2, Fire Emblem x Shin Megami Tensei or the new Retro Studios game factor into that list?

[N4g_null]

So what are the confirm release dates of the ps4 games? Most of the ps3 games worth getting will be on pc anyway. If you really want to believe all of those games are not coming then good luck with that.

[Hicken]

He said WITH RELEASE DATES. Of those games you listed, how many have release dates? NOT ONE. (Not from IGN's list, anyway.)

Geez, are you trying to make yourself look silly? cuz if so, you're doing a great job.

@scissor_runner: Get off this PC kick you're on. It's pretty pathetic that you use that as some type of excuse as to why the multiplats that aren't on Wii U don't matter.

Fact is: third party support is drying up quick on the Wii U. They're kinda gonna need that to lure in core gamers(though I imagine the Nintendo faithful will say the only thing that matters are the exclusives), especially those that aren't all that into the same few franchises Nintendo brings every generation.

As for confirmed release dates of PS4 games, that's irrelevant. That SYSTEM doesn't even have a solid release date yet; how could the games have one?

Trying too hard, people. The Wii U isn't a failure, but it could- and should- be doing better. Seems like Nintendo didn't have all their ducks in a row when they launched it. But it's not too late to straighten them up.

[PopRocks359]

@Hicken

Chill out boyo. I missed that part of the comment obviously.

Either way, even without release dates, I don't think we should discount those games. They're going to be shown around E3 and unlike other publishers, Nintendo has a tendency to keep a fairly strict schedule. If they're being showcased, they'll probably be released within two years of the show, in some cases less than one.

[MikeMyers]

I find it alarming how some people used to list Vita games with no firm release dates to try and counter all the negativity yet won't take that into consideration with the Wii U. Double standards?

It's way too early to be calling Wii U a failure just like it was for the Vita.

[PopRocks359]

@MikeMyers

Nintendo's schedule is usually fairly solid when it comes to software. If they announce a game at E3, it's usually out within the next two years, sometimes the following year.

[DragonKnight]

The Wii U's single greatest flaw is that it tried to be the Wii all over again and shoe horn some alleged core gamer support. A gimmick will only work on the casuals one time. They are the most fickle group imaginable and are always looking for the next new thing. Conversely, the core audience remembers when they aren't being focused on enough and subsequently lose interest in future endeavours if it still looks to be the case that they aren't being focused on enough. The Wii U currently has no solid focus and Nintendo is begging for patience. They rushed it out and are paying for it.

[Snookies12]

Bubbles for you sir, very well said.

[CaulkSlap]

You put it absolutely perfectly. And I'd take it a step further and say Microsoft is making the same mistake by pushing the Kinect so hard for the next Xbox. That gimmick has already played itself out on the 360 and it's never going to generate the kind of casual hype they want. They're going to lose a good chunk of their core audience by ignoring them outside of the few established franchises.

[N4g_null]

Nintendos biggest flaw is trusting a pc oreinted dieing third party pretending to be console developers. If ms links the next Xbox to pc hardware it will be as simple as buying a new os to get the next Xbox experience ooops!

[iplay1up2]

I don't think the Wii U is a gimmick. I like the tablet. I also like that I can play with the pro-controller and still use Wiimote + for games like Skyward Sword, which looks just a little better on Wii U because it upscales. I wish more exclusive games were out, but they will come with time.

[BitbyDeath]

Too early to tell.
E3 is not very far away though so people should at least wait until then before casting the doomed stone.

[Omar91]

way to early to tell. Nintendo still has time to turn things around.btw Reggie's face in that picture is perfect for the topic lmao!

[TongkatAli]

Everything is "doomed" now a days. That word is the moth to the flame for us gamers and we fall for it each time. Grow the F up people.

[tristanwerbe]

The Wii U has already sold 3 million copys and there is nothing wrong with it despite lack of "new" games

[Picture_Dancer]

Nothing wrong? How about the price for such a weak hardwere? How about graphics which is currenty worse than 8 years old X360 or PS3?

[tristanwerbe]

it's not crap "hardware" learn how to spell and the graphics are not worse games look the same on there and look at the New need for speed on there it looks as good maybe better than the PC version, people are hating for no reason cause of morons like you who think it is weak, if you don't own it you can't say nothing about it so go yell your anger on Call of Duty or grow the fuck up

[LastXeno]

Am I sick of these articles?

[SolidDuck]

I think the wii u is going to have some great games and sale a lot like the GameCube did. So do u consider the GameCube a failure? It didn't sale that well, but had some great games. And most people who owned a GameCube loved it. So is sales and the quantity of games all that matter?

[Godmars290]

The hardware isn't, but the company that made is.

Nintendo never got its sh*t back together after dealing with Sony. Failing to move over to CDs and the N64.

[krazykombatant]

Ffs im tired of seeing this b.s. yes ninty pulled out at the last second and many people consider ninty to be the bad guys, but in the contract between both the companies, sony, wanted rights to every IP that would release in their playstation. Meaning every Nintendo character would become propertyof sony. For a company like Nintendo that was suicide.

[Godmars290]

No one was right in that deal. Sony tried to rip off Nintendo, Nintendo went behind Sony's back to work with Phillips, and Philips just plain screwed up with their console.

But out of all that mess, Nintendo failed to learn anything. Became less flexible and purposely fell one step behind the competition while over-relying on established franchises such as Link and Mario.

[krazykombatant]

Over relying on franchises that have carried the company to where it is now. Give me nintys IPs over anything out there and ill be successful 9/10.

[Theyellowflash30]

I'm confused, the Wii U sells 4 million consoles, more than the PS3 and Xbox 360 did in their first few months on the market, and it's a failure?

Then the writer says "and there are absolutely no big games or interesting titles in sight."

Deus Ex Human Revolution, Resident Evil Revelations? Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Lego City, Need for Speed U, all just came out. Mario Kart, Zelda, and 3D Mario in the fall? What the hell does no interesting titles in sight mean?

[AsimLeonheart]

The Wii U sold almost all of its total sales on launch because of ample supply. Since then no one has been buying it. Moreover, it only outsold PS360 by a small margin because they were more expensive especially PS3 which was $600 and suffered from severe supply constraints and shortages. You have to consider everything in context to assess the Wii U sales performance accurately.
The titles you list arent "big titles"; just look at the sales of the ones that have been released. Furthermore, most of them are seriously old ports. Big titles mean system sellers and killer apps. Big titles are those which can sell millions and also make the system sell. Finally, the true big titles like 3D Mario, Zelda and Mario Kart do not have release dates and the "fall" is not enough. Moreover, Wii U games getting delayed or cancelled has become a norm so no one rational can trust the vague "fall" window.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Monster Hunter isn't a big title? Ever been to Japan? It sells like Hotcakes over there.

[AsimLeonheart]

@ZombieNinjaPanda
It isnt on the Wii U. It has sold only 194,000 in Japan since its release in Decemeber 2012 and sold only 73,000 in the west in its debut week. It has bombed.

[Rezka]

Sorry but its gonna be left in the dust when the new xbox and playstation release

[kirbyu]

I'm so tired of hearing this topic.

[Ulf]

A) It did not, and will not, accomplish the goals Nintendo appear to have laid out for the console -- namely, recapture the hardcore.

It Wii U's technical specs, like the Wii's, place it too close to the gen it was meant to follow, and thus alienate it from 3rd parties wanting to move forward, and sell games by impressing the audience.

Arguably, gameplay is what matters -- to gamers -- but when it comes to sales, having hotter hardware allows you to make games closer to Michael Bay movies... that's what the 3rd party publishers want, because they think that's the best way to make money.

B) Nintendo lost the casual market by launching too early. The early launch causes them to be compared against the technologically comparable, and library-rich XBox 360 and PS3 -- and in a day where social apps are a dominating force, Nintendo's online services pale even next to these older consoles.

Worse, the Wii U costs more, and has far less internal storage -- consumers don't give a c$%p about the fact that the flash storage in the Wii U is noiseless, generates very little heat, and uses very little power compared to a HDD. They want more space. It's a livingroom device, not a handheld.

C) Nintendo lost the rest of the casual market via basically making party play an "add-on" -- by making the primary controller an expensive tablet-style device. Of all the Wii's draws, the ease-of-use and simplicity of the controller was probably one of the bigger reasons people saw potential. The tech wasn't really there yet, but if the last gen had not seen motion controls, and we had first seen the Wiimote-style interface in this day and age, it might be an even bigger smash hit today, than it was back then.

People already own iPads, Surfaces, and Android tablets to play around the house on. They don't need another tablet, even if it has Mario.

[Jadedz]

A) You might be right, though we still don't know how the sales will play out when system selling software launches on the Wii U (Mario Kart, Zelda, Smash Bros., Metroid).

Graphically speaking (technically writing); it isn't super powerful, just a really efficient console. Here's the specs rundown http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...

B.)Casuals can easily be regained by Nintendo with the right type of software. Animal Crossing is over 3 million in sales, has a bigger woman-to-man ownership ratio, and is only selling in one region (currently).

Buying additional memory isn't ideal, but it's definitely affordable. You can buy external hard drives for cheap now.

C)My original Wii games and accessories work on my Wii U, so that isn't a problem.

True, people do own those things. Which is why Nintendo has to prove to everyone why the Wii U is a competent gaming system by providing the software that'll entice consumers.

[Soplox]

I'm giving it one last chance. And that's E3.

[strigoi814]

E3 guys..one last move and checkmate....

[just-joe]

I find this funny seeing that there an article over here that say it outsold the PS3 in Japan this week.

http://n4g.com/news/1224938...

[TongkatAli]

Good thing you posted the link cause everyone doesn't see it at the top of the front page, faceplam.

[Zer0bros]

Nintendo pretty much dropped the ball with the Wii U, something that Nintendo won't recover from for the rest of this new generation. Sony and MS have pretty much taken all the 3rd party support once again leaving Nintendo with fewer devs willing to port PS4/720 multiplats onto the Wii U.

The Wii U is basically the Wii, minus support from the casual market and popularity. It will get Nintendo exclusives and that's pretty much it. You can also make the analogy that the Wii U is the Gamecube minus powerful specs

[CaulkSlap]

They tried to replicate the Wiimote gimmick hype and it has utterly failed to resonate. The Wii sales crash in 2010 was a good indicator of when things were played out and they hadn't gained any kind of sustainable new fanbase. Just fickle casuals who went back to not paying attention. With the huge cash pile from Wii/DS this was Nintendo's chance to re-enter the modern console era and once again dominate. Instead we have another under-powered gimmick based console that gamers and even most developers just aren't interested in.

And honestly I think their biggest mistake is as simple as calling it Wii anything. There were so many Wii__ accessories that it just doesn't differentiate the console from an add-on. They should have looked at current Wii sales and realized they needed a fresh new image.

[Adolph Fitler]

Problem is, they won't be diehard Nintendo fans for long, as continually poor 3rd party sales means that 3rd parties on Nintendo consoles will become non-existent, instead of just virtually non-existent, & with that, there will be no growth in sales of the console, meaning Nintendo won't be making money on the console & will barely be making money on there exclusive games, whereas, because PS4 & 720 are GETTING THE LOT (especially PS4 with Sony's Nintendo-esque-quality inhouse titles), will get the massive sales numbers, as far as install base, & thus, 3rd parties will be breaking there necks to release awesome games on these 2, whereas, they'll be running from Nintendo's already badly outdated hardware at 100mph's.

The problem is, if I'm a great developer, why do I want to work on a generation old bit of hardware, that will fail to catch eyes & attention at the basic level (visuals as is the case with games), & while people can say, "well. what about Wii", I say to that, Wii is a different kettle of fish & had a game off the bat in Wii Sports that captured masses of casuals attention, whereas, Wii-U's similar attempt in Nintendoland, failed to capture any of that games spirit. Also, Wii launched at a price that was lower than it's competition (PS3 & 360), whereas, this time it launched Wii-U at a price above it's current competition (which happens to be PS3 & 360 again).
So, Nintendo has it cut out for them, as casuals aren't gonna fall for another gimmick twice in a row, & especially when the 2nd gimmick from Ninty, doesn't have a single title to sell it.

[Blitzkid]

Every console from Nintendo since the SNES was a failure in my eyes.

[PS4isKing_82]

If I don't see something that totally wows me for my wiiu at E3, I will be selling mine with the pro controller I bought, as well as the wii motion plus I got for it. I'm sorry Nintendo, I just expected a lot more from you this time. But again, it's not over till E3. So I will patiently wait and pray Nintendo has something amazing in store for us. They really need it at this point with Sony and soon Microsoft taking all the hype and news lately leaving them with nothing.

However I'm really hopping they announce the new smash bros, for THIS year. If they do that, I will be keeping my wiiu without a doubt right next to my shiny new ps4 :D

[diepdiep]

I swear, these articles were written to keep the "Nintendo hating trend" alive.

[MadMen]

Yep, esp in comparison to the Wii

[TuxedoMoon]

The wii-u isn't a failure at all. It sold enough units so far and all it needs is to show off the new smash bros and mario kart to gain system sales. the Wii-u may not have had the momentum the wii did, but I'm sure parents will eventually buy the newest nintendo branded console simply because it's a brand they trust for their kids. It took a little while for the 3ds to sell. The wii-u just needs games and some time. It's on its own route.

These Nintendo hate articles are getting annoying though.

[diepdiep]

It's really annoying that Nintendo articles, nowadays, are mostly negative and have no values whatsoever. I want Nintendo articles that are informative about what to be excited for in the future, not articles that were written solely to join the bandwagon of hating Nintendo.

I'm actually relying on different websites for REAL Nintendo news because of this (Nintendo's Facebook as one of them).

[Geovanny]

Yes,it is.

[tweet75]

its a little too expensive drop the price to $300, and have a series of AAA titles in 2013 and nintendo will have a winner

[wheresmymonkey]

It's funny how everyone seems to of forgotten how the PS3 had a very similar first couple of years.

Also all these articles saying well its not selling as well as the wii did over the same period. Are you kidding me. The ps3 and xbox 360 didn't sell as well as the wii did over the same period.

There's no games. are you fucking kidding me. Am i the only one who remembers watching that nintendo direct from a couple months ago. the wiiU's about to get tons of games and every last one of them will be an exclusive.

Something you can't say for 99% of the games that will be released for the 720 and ps4.

[madjedi]

"Something you can't say for 99% of the games that will be released for the 720 and ps4."

Considering neither system has yet to see an e3 showing(wii u's 3rd by now) and the fact that it is 7 months and change before you can buy one.

Yeah i think the lack of big title wii u games with solid release dates is alot more worrying than ps4 and 720 titles with no release dates.

That is cute you trying to spin this, by saying the wii u isn't the only one.

"It's funny how everyone seems to of forgotten how the PS3 had a very similar first couple of years."

Bullshit you had maybe 6 months to a year before the exclusives started coming and you had 3rd party support the whole time. It isn't the same scenario, by any measure.

" the wiiU's about to get tons of games and every last one of them will be an exclusive." Tons hardly you will get maybe 5-12 unknown release date games by the end of the yr. Plus whatever known releases.

The gamecube or n64 weren't failures despite their low install base, i however think nintendo is going to take a hit on it's warchest this gen between missing sales projections and them having to develop most of the wii u games.

It's hilarious for yrs nintendo fans on n4g always boasted about how strong the wii's sale were to ps3/360 gamers. And now that the wii u is doing very badly in sales, every nintendo fanboy is a born again true gamer that enjoys all platforms equally. Give me a fucking break.

You 2012/2013 multi accounts know the mindset from yrs ago this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

[wheresmymonkey]

the wiiu will end up like the wii. After this initial grace perios if you want a make a game for it. It'll have to be an exclusive because it probably wont convert over to the other two.

things you seem to forget about nintendo. They selltheir hardware at a profit from day one. The wii has still sold more than the ps3 and the 360.

Also if you actually bothered looking at figures you'd see the wiiU has sold more than the xbox 360 did in its first five months on sale and has more games in its library 1st than the ps3 did over the same period.

Funny how this insane thing called facts seems to ellude some people.

[madjedi]

"Funny how this insane thing called facts seems to ellude some people."

"the wiiu will end up like the wii." Lol no, that ship has long since sailed, if you hit gc or 64 numbers it will be a good thing.

I am sorry if nintendo fans can't comprehend this, but alot of people aren't impressed by the wiiu. Hence the fairly poor sales numbers it's putting out after january.

Yes some people also conveniently forget both the ps3 and 360, were more expensive and supply constrained several months after launch. The wii u hasn't been hard to get maybe past the first week. Damn facts again.

This coming from someone who claims the wii u will sell like the wii did.

3rd party support has been dropping like flies, and the japanese 3rd parties aren't actively try to get current gen ports to it.

Right so 3rd party devs will ignore a 140-150 million install base for a sub 5 million one, just to make nintendo exclusives. Wow great incentive for 3rd party devs.

The gaming industry does not revolve around nintendo, despite you guys thinking otherwise.

And the wiiu is currently being sold at a loss(not a profit), how about we wait for a full year before you bruise your chest proclaiming the wii u triumphant.

It still has a long road ahead and it only gets worse at e3. We will see how it does long term.

And the ps3 is very likely to surpass the wii in sales before it is discontinued, the ps2 finally had production on it ceased.

You really think sony can't sell another 25-30 million ps3's @199 or lower.

[iliimaster]

this is going to be my first next console purchase just off super mario and the new Luigi mansion game and all other classic nintendo games zelda etc. i just needa save up

[raph360]

holy fuckin shit ...... Are U dumb ? did ur head felt on a rock while
u were young u idiot ? is the wiiu a failure

No its not you punk

its Nintendo, real players know what it means

[AKR]

I'm gonna be honest - Unless the console has been cut off (like Dreamcast for example) it's no "failure". I don't see why people are so quick to jump on the "Console XYZ is a Failure!" bandwagon and they have so many ignorant people falling straight after them.

And even when the console starts to pick up and show true signs of life, then you see: "Console XYZ is such an amazing console!" - from most of the very same people who were just dooming it. Oi . . . .

I have yet to find a console that has launched on a golden road. Meaning - it has had good, steady sales for it's first year and a whole sleuth of new titles pumping into it's library continuously for the first year. Can someone, please, find me ONE console that fits that definition?

All NEW consoles face the *drought* and *slow sales* problems. It's because it's a transition from one generation, to the next one. Devs still have the creation train running at high-speed on older platforms, which they're more used to and already have had titles in development for at least a year or more. When a new platform is released, they're simultaneously trying to work with new, unfamiliar tech, and old, familiar tech. Their projects have already been made for the older hardware, and it takes money and time to get it over to the newer one. See what I mean?

Let's look at recent times:
What - You think the XBOX 360 was always the beast it is, with high sales and lots of incoming titles? No - It started off slow too. PS3 took at least 2 years to wake up, since it had a high price and barely any new games that were worth getting. 3DS was wounded out of the gate. It had a high price tag, and nothing worth getting (like the PS3). But then Nintendo cut the price, released game like Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 - and boom - now look at it? It and it's revision model (3DS XL) are doing quite well. Vita has only JUST recently waken up, after a rather terrible first year.

My point is - It's FAR, VERY FAR, to early to judge the Wii U's future. It's too early to call it a *failure* or *success* - simply because it's only NOW starting to find it's voice. Launched strong, but then tanked. Now it's revving up again. E3 is about two solid months from now. We haven't seen footage of the New 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Wind Waker HD or new Zelda yet. We have yet to lay eyes - or even have a thought - of what RETRO STUDIOS is working on. Maybe other 3rd party devs have announcements themselves. See what I'm talking about?

I don't know why these articles keep getting approved, but honestly, it's a bit too much. It's truly funny how POSITIVE get articles usually get ignored, and when they aren't, it's filled with hypocrites still spouting baseless banter. But oh well. My work here is done.

[D_RoyJenkins]

It is

[dafegamer]

Nope. Too early to tell.It will sell very well when the games roll in. I'm getting the WiiU for Zelda, 3d Mario and hopefully a new Metroid Prime game(not other m type pls)

[THEMIGHTYDOOVDE]

'the Wii U is in a lot of trouble right now. It’s barely sold 4 Million units'....... How much did PS360 sell in their first 5 months?

[AdvanceWarsSgt]

It's way too early to call it a failure. It is, however, having a very terrible 4 months commercially, and it certainly doesn't help that Nintendo has failed to market the WiiU properly.

[Deku-Johnny]

Is it too early to tell if the Wii U is a failure? Yes.