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Microsoft expected to reveal its Xbox 720 for the first time in April

A growing number of developers and other industry professionals, some of which are Sony employees, have told CVG that Microsoft will reveal its next generation Xbox for the first time in April.

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ShugaCane4081d ago

Makes sense. A few months after the PS4 presentation so Microsoft can think of the ways to give a proper response, and a few months before the E3, so that devs have some time to refine what they're going to show.

Gazondaily4081d ago

The PS4 reveal has no doubt out pressure on Microsoft to make their reveal.

Revealing after Sony gives them a tactical advantage so they should make good of it before E3 and Sony's second showing.

aCasualGamer4081d ago

@cherry_olsen

Not entirely true though. Microsoft can make minor changes now that they've seen what Sony has in store. For example, now that Sony has exclusive deal with Bungie for Destiny Microsoft can do the same. These deals happen can happen any day.

Bathyj4081d ago

They might buy some DLC or something like that, but I dont see them changing anything to major in the hardware. Not unless theyre releasing next year.

Gazondaily4081d ago (Edited 4081d ago )

"'tactical advantage'??

Are people this unbelievably clueless? "

A tactical advantage doesn't necessarily mean changing the specs of the console. It can be something like presenting the show in a certain manner.

"The embarrassingly bad specs everyone has already seen for the next Xbox are it."

Ah okay, this sentence right here sums up your mentality.

[EDIT] Looking at your join date- another troll account I see. Grow up.

GodGinrai4081d ago

@cherry olsen

Unless YOU know the finalized spec of the nextbox, shut your pie hole.

there are currently two refference designs that have been rumoured for nextbox....one is based on a custom powerPC design the other based around the same jaguar APU as the PS4. seeing as nobody has spilled the beans on the final reference design..it would be wise to just pipe down,mate.

TheSurg4081d ago

@ Cherry_olsen

to remind you. Xbox 360 was supposed to have 256mb RAM which they doubled in the last moment on request of Epic Games for their unreal engine to work well.

fluffydelusions4081d ago

Not sure why people are talking about we know the finalized specs. Sony just very recently added that extra 4gb of ddr5 ram to PS4. Also as above poster stated the 360 was only going to ship with 256 until last minute. Simply put, we don't know anything.

Philoctetes4081d ago

"Tactical advantage?" Come on. Nobody cares about who announced first or who had the slicker presentation. All that matters is what the console does and what games you can play on it.

nukeitall4081d ago

All of this is specs and announcements are nothing more than to get the hardcore gamers excited. Fact is, none of this is likely to really have a big bearing on the console race.

It is more in the long term execution. A good example of this is the 3DS, whom started off very slowly, but with Nintendo's swift management managed to turn it around. On the flip side, the PS Vita whom was almost universally praised at announcement is quickly turning into a flop.

So what have we learned? Execution over claims regardless of who it is, MS, Sony, Nintendo or anyone else.

nveenio4081d ago (Edited 4081d ago )

Sony's reveal shows that Microsoft really CAN'T improve its hardware to beat the PS4 specs unless they're interested in costing more or losing more money. This is for the simple fact that the PS4 is as good as it can be while remaining affordable for a home console. Any advantage Microsoft wants to make will have to be software based. This means more publisher exclusivity and a stronger Xbox Live (because the next-gen PS4 makes grand promises, which, if delivered upon, will make PSN a total behemoth).

Microsoft won't focus on hardware, only software. If they don't bring the hardcore, they're going to have a rough time beating Sony's offerings.

Gildarts4081d ago

@inveni0
Microsoft has the money to pull that off last minute unlike Sony. It happened to the 360 and i don't see why it couldn't happen again now that they have made even more money from the 360

For those who don't know 360 was gonna have 256mb of ram then they upgraded it to 512 when epic said it won't. be Able to run unreal engine very well and showed them the graphics on 256mb and 512

ABizzel14081d ago

@The realness

Not to be on his side, but the rumored specs. for the Nextbox are likely true. The rumors in the PS4 were spot on besides having 8GB of GDDR5 instead of 4GB.

The Nextbox rumors were given by the same sources, so it's likely they're stuck with what they have besides upping their RAM from 8GB.

admiralvic4081d ago

@ Cherry_Olsen

M$ definitely has a tactical advantage, but it comes at the cost of living up to expectations. Now they don't have to just be good, but be on par or better than what we've seen from the PS4. Even if the specs are in fact final (some people seem to think that better specs = better games), they could have a stronger showing of games or more interesting features to beat Sony. A lot of what you will see is them announcing comparable features to the PS4 and announce things that might make them look better than Sony. For instance being backwards compatible.

@ Nukeitall

The 3DS was actually praised / viewed highly after its initial showing. So much so (or at least logically so) that it ended up with the absurd $250 dollar launch price. The 3DS also followed the Vita in terms of lack of games, sales and support at the start. The only difference is that Nintendo had to drop the price and is a little more established. Give it some time and the Vita will come back.

Deputydon4080d ago

Microsoft will almost certainly show the actual Console. A lot of people will consider MS to actually be the first to reveal considering they will actually show what the console looks like.

Either way, I expect Sony to have the best console, yet again.

Jockamo4080d ago

The reason why MS thought it strange to not show the actual console is because visual aesthetics are just as important as brand recognition. This has been a cornerstone to MS's marketing of the 360. Always show the console. Always show the console. Definitely less so w/ the PS3. But marketing research goes hand in hand w/ the research of the technology. It's almost as if Sony didn't finish deciding what the thing would look like, so they couldn't even show a prototype of the actual device. That's why it was weird and, quite honestly, I'm glad MS called them out on it.

greenpowerz4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

We have no idea what an motivated company can do with cash to changed things at the last minute.

We are also assuming when these new consoles are actually going to be out vs what is rumored or said.

360 specs were changed late because a developer wanted more RAM for GEARS (((LOOKS LIKE SURGE ALREADY SAID THIS)

The mistake is assuming the PS4 is or was the most powerful console based on old leaked info and rumors that are false or outdated.

-What matters is that the 360 was wildly successful

-MSFT made alot of cash

-360 price was never dropped much due to demand

-MSFT has so much revenue coming in they can take a massive hit from the 720 launch price.

-MSFT wants to use the xbox as a platform for all their products insuring the 720 has to be basically a Home theater PC(very powerful)

-MSFT purchased lots of studios and had them all focus on the 720.

-xbox 720 will be something very different from anything we have ever seen.

} This is why Sony changed the specs in the PS4 to slightly out do the old outdated specs that were leaked from MSFT.

There was an article on N4G about a month ago that had supposed PS4 devs saying Sony had 4 gigs of memory at first but changed the specs to match the leaked specs of the 720 that had 8 gigs. Clearly Sony thinks they one uped MSFT not considering those where old internal plans.

For all we KNow the 720 is more PC with 10 gigs of ram and has a subsidized payment plans(MSFT already testing that with 360) for a more PC-sh SKU like what was rumoured

GraveLord4080d ago

Not really. Revealing after Sony is a disadvantage. Like it or not, Microsoft is reacting to Sony. Sony made the first move, PS4 is the first next-gen console revealed and developers love what Sony is doing with the system. Expect PS4 to be the lead platform next-gen.

greenpowerz4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

So is Sony reacting to Nintendo then? As if being first to reveal something can't be an recation to others that have not revealed yet LOL

You do know going first is the ultimate recation right? MSFT went first this gen reacting to Sony's dominance of the past.

Nintendo and Sony are reacting to MSFT's dominance this gen. MSFT has forced them to move on.

You really think a company only gets concerned when somebody goes first? A company that forces others hands also knows they are a force to be reconed with as well as needing to be ready to defend that dominance.

Anyway I'm not buying the statemnt from the Sony devs saying the PS4 reveal caused mayham at MSFT.

MSFT probably already considered they would force Sony to jump the gun getting the first hype going.
Sony doesn't even have a console, not just cosmetically either but it's basically in concept on PC.

Ju4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

MS did not show the 360 at E3 2005. In fact those were all locked away boxes and supposed to be souped up PowerPC (Macs) at the time. Google it. MS has a history to fake their way through press events (Kinect "choreographic" anyone?), but yet this is always OK with them and their fans. I don't really care, tbh. I made up my mind already, won't get both and what I saw is sufficient to say, I made a decision already. Go figure (no surprise there, I guess). Call me a fanboy, doesn't really bother me (you people have made up your mind a long time ago anyway, so what does it matter).

MS can't change the specs, either. Not much headroom for what they did. Not sure if they will have the muscles to add more CUs to the GPU; this is probably in range of possibilities. But adding RAM is one thing, re-engineering a chip when you should actually be working on that BOM to kick start production by mid of the year to fulfill supply and demand for the holidays is another. Especially because MS went the complicated route with their chipset design. This is locked down and done, they can't just pop in another GPU - if they really want to release this year. And they can't change the way the memory works without throwing the whole concept over board.

MS has a new Kinect. And this is just the wrong focus. It's a nice add on, but not the core (at least for me, who knows what the majority wants). They invest almost as much into this thing as into the console itself; not sure if that's so smart; and eventually it is nothing new.

Gaikai integration in PSN is the biggy here; maybe not really visible for some, but this will make a whole online experience, you'll see. (I'm not talking about a Gaikai client, but how this works with Vita, tablets, phones, and the instant feature in PSN - maybe they stole that from MS. Who knows).

UE4 debut on PS4, so that is also some for of guarantee that those "cheap" ports will do just fine now.

And Green, sure MS forced Sony to do what they are doing - but I guarantee you they were shocked they actually pulled that off.

And about the showing...I can just tell you that there are actually devboxes for the PS4 - not boards in a PC case;) Just saying.

Hey, and speaking of "forcing". If MS shows us something in April, I am sure that they were "forced" by Sony to not let them sail away with all the buzz they are getting right now. I'm sure this wasn't planned.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

Foe all I know sony could of made up the specs! Maybe it's 10gb ram.. Who knows sony showed nothing and they might be waiting for MS to show the box so they can try to make a better looking design.

Sony seems to be trying to throw MS off..

That-Guy4080d ago

So all that Sony needs to do now is keep its hype going. And around Microsoft's event pitch in extra info to steal some of their thunder.

Mikeyy4080d ago

I would like to leave some food for thought that brings some validity to cherry_olsen's statement.

Think way back when the Xbox 360 released, and the PS3 wasnt released for another year afterwards. You would naturally think to yourself that they can look at the Xbox 360s hardware, and spend the extra year beefing it up and making sure they out do it, but something happened, they didnt. Not even a RAM upgrade. WHY? Because you can't make last minite changes to the architecture so close to release. Developers rely on the final specs and completely changing that would put them well behind and cause them to possibly miss launch.

What I'm getting at is the leaked specs are going to be accurate, and Microsoft doesnt have the time to change any major components. Thats what the last 7 years was for. You can't gut the whole damn system and upgrade it all in the last 7 months. You have to start production of the parts during that time.

So don't expect MS to announce 8gb of GDDR5 and the Titan GPU come april. It's too late, even if they wanted to spend the money, there is no time.

MrMister4080d ago

Sony should have waited for M$ to go first. Like they said they would do. The only other reason for Sony to go first is if they also plan to have it in stores first. But who knows...

Viper74080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

Sure there's slight tactical advantage, but considering how SuperDaE leaked the Orbis details with most of the info being spot on, I think both of the manufacturers have pretty good idea what the other is after. (he leaked Durango info as well.)

It's like poker where suddenly the 3rd player picks the cards of the other two and throws em on the table for everyone to see.

but unlike in poker, you can't just quit the game and back your bags.

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ritsuka6664081d ago (Edited 4081d ago )

April will be a awesome month for 360 owners indeed :)

Anyway, MS already say they are working in 4 new IPS for XBOX 720. Can't wait for see this news games...

http://www.trustedreviews.c...

bicfitness4081d ago (Edited 4081d ago )

From your article: "a core AAA shooter experience using Kinect." Nothing else is known about the rest, but I bet at least one more is Kinect based - they need to recoup their costs and are determined to shove the peripheral down everyone's throats.

Do you read what you post? Judging from how successful - read: not successful - Kinect has been with core gamers and for core games, I don't know why anyone is excited for more Kinect 2.0 shovelware.

Also, a significant portion of MS' "next-gen" development went into that massive television/ advertising/ cross-media studio that they opened. So if you're expecting a tsunami of awesome 1st party AAA games, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

DARK WITNESS4081d ago

it could be, or it could be a very big disappointment depending on your expectations..

we will have to wait and see.

hazardman4081d ago (Edited 4081d ago )

Looks like Sony wants to make MOVE a big part of the way you game too. You just in denial..lol Sonybot these days!

Gildarts4081d ago

This is from their wiki, i can see at least. 10 new ip's. of course they might not announce them at the same time but you be the judge.

343 Industries – Halo series
Connected Experiences – Untitled Project – Design Large scale multiplayer title and help other first party studios
Good Science Studio – Kinect Adventures, Kinect Fun Labs
Kids and Lifestyle Entertainment – Untitled Project
Microsoft Studios – Los Angeles – Untitled Project
Microsoft Studios – Mobile Gaming – ilomilo
Microsoft Studios – Redmond Publishing – Overseeing and co-developing multiple projects in conjunction with third party development studios
Platform Next Studios – Untitled Project
Playful Learning – Untitled Project
Skybox Sports – Untitled Project
Turn 10 Studios – Forza Motorsport series
Twisted Pixel Games – The Gunstringer, LocoCycle
Xbox Live Productions – South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!, South Park: Tenorman's Revenge, Avatar Kinect

Europe
Lionhead Studios – Fable series, Black & White series; Unannounced MMO-like New IP
Lift London – Multiple Cloud Based gaming projects
Rare Ltd. – Banjo-Kazooie series, Viva Piñata, Perfect Dark series, Kinect Sports series
Soho Productions – Kinect Sesame Street TV
Press Play – Untitled Project[24]

Canada
BigPark – Joy Ride series, Kinect Sports: Season Two
Black Tusk Studios – Untitled Project
Microsoft Studios Victoria – Untitled Project

brave27heart4080d ago

"AAA shooter experience using kinect"

Im not going to state my opinion on this, I want ALL OF YOU to show your opinions.

Agree on this comment if you're happy with a AAA shooter experience using kinect.

Disagree if you'd rather it was just a AAA shooter experience.

JackBNimble4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

@ hazardman

how much of the ps move did sony showcase at the ps4 reveal?
That's right, next to none... besides the one segment.

I am willing to bet that 90% of MS 1st party studios will be nothing but kinect... just wait and see.
Looks like it's going to suck being an xbox fanboy next gen , especially if you're forced to be online to play anything!

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princejb1344081d ago

Awesome news
I hope ms releases a great console
But one thing that's gonna justify my purchase is free online gameplay
Common ms get with the trend Sony and Nintendo do it

Cueil4080d ago

wouldn't mind basic free service... with all the extra being under a paid service

AngelicIceDiamond4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

Noooo that's so far!? Late March at least. I guess MS will stay diligent, focused, and finalize their hardware. Until then, keep the PS4 news rollin for the mean time.

user39158004080d ago

Keep the trolls guessing on what will be lol... Let sony and nintendo know whos got the football. Suspense its the mother load of all trolls, so keep them waiting until the final blow.

I know what you have, would you like to see mines? lol...

If the leak was correct from superdae, there will be hardly any diference at all, except for speed. Problem with that its on ram, but even high end pc all they need is 8gb of ram and a 6 core to run the most up to date pc game. Both sony and MS will be closed together more similar than ps3 and 360 cause of the same company providing same cpu anf similar gpu. At the end of the day both will be PC ports to each other.

I think MS will have the most innovation this gen, sony showed nothing besides high harware spec and outdated remote thats been around 15 years and now add another 8 years to ps4 remote ugh...

Plasticgearsolid4080d ago

if they announce their console its not going to be at an event likes Sony's its going to be just a statement since its so close to E3

WiiUsauce4080d ago

I hope so!!! I can't wait for Microsoft to put all these Sony fanboys in check.

Jaces4080d ago

It is going to be interesting to see what Xbox has in store and how they plan to respond in kind. The jump into next gen gaming always gets me excited. Can't wait!

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StrongMan4081d ago

I don't believe this. If MS responds now then what will they have to show at E3?

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BLAKHOODe4081d ago

Sony pulled it off and still has plenty to show at E3. So, I don't see why Microsoft couldn't do the same.

ZeroX98764081d ago

they got 4 New IP to show, so I'm hoping to see maybe 1-2 of them and some third party games. Maybe even BF4? And we all know that even with 4 new IP, microsoft won't abandon their old franchises, so maybe a sequel from one of them?

hazardman4081d ago

I like your amazing streak.. I never seen a more lopsided vote. I like it, 31 in a row.

maddfoxx4081d ago

Pretty sure both Sony and Microsoft are saving things for E3. Sony can announce the price point and any bundles that they may be looking to sell. They will probably show the final design of the console along with demos of the games that were shown at the ps4 announcement. SE even said something about the next Final Fantasy being at E3 (I hope its FF: Versus). I dont own a 360 this gen, but I'm still excited to see what Microsoft will show. I'm still amazed the Microsoft managed to rack up more JRPG's this gen.

UnholyLight4080d ago

Sony showed even more than I expected but there's still LOTS left on the table to show.

brave27heart4080d ago

E3 will be the place final specs, release dates and prices are nailed down. They can show the console off and still have plenty for E3.

SDF Repellent4080d ago

Dude StrongMan, do you even think before you type?

How about Sony, what will they show at E3 since they already reveal the PS4 already. Your PS3 defense force mates can't even give you an "Agree" because of how silly that comment is.

Hicken4080d ago

You were on the right track... for about three seconds.

There's still PLENTY surrounding the PS4 that can be revealed. Launch games, entry price, the actual design of the system, details surrounding the online, and more.

Yes, Microsoft obviously has EVERYTHING they can show at this point. But Sony's not out of cards to play.

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Hands Up For Games4081d ago (Edited 4081d ago )

Ding Ding. Round 2!

UnholyLight4080d ago

Everyone get your popcorn ready, this is gonna be awesome

ApolloTheBoss4081d ago

I knew they'd do this. They can't let Sony get the upper hand. But if they don't show the console that just means they were taking notes from Sony.

Just_The_Truth4080d ago

I don't get why the shell of a machine matters so much to people....

Jaces4080d ago

It's like buying a new car knowing all of it's specs but you don't have a clue what it looks like.

It's mainly for us geeks who quiver at the thought of the design.

R_aVe_N4081d ago

IGn stated this on Podcast Beyond this week. I think they were giving people hints as to when Microsoft were going to announce XD

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7215h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle2h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Cacabunga1h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21831h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

purple1014h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos4h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac3h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1012h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 11h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 9h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 6h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN23h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 1h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies21h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 9h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic19h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9018h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 11h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 10h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 7h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 10h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 9h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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