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Microsoft expected to reveal its Xbox 720 for the first time in April

A growing number of developers and other industry professionals, some of which are Sony employees, have told CVG that Microsoft will reveal its next generation Xbox for the first time in April.

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ShugaCane4090d ago

Makes sense. A few months after the PS4 presentation so Microsoft can think of the ways to give a proper response, and a few months before the E3, so that devs have some time to refine what they're going to show.

Gazondaily4090d ago

The PS4 reveal has no doubt out pressure on Microsoft to make their reveal.

Revealing after Sony gives them a tactical advantage so they should make good of it before E3 and Sony's second showing.

aCasualGamer4090d ago

@cherry_olsen

Not entirely true though. Microsoft can make minor changes now that they've seen what Sony has in store. For example, now that Sony has exclusive deal with Bungie for Destiny Microsoft can do the same. These deals happen can happen any day.

Bathyj4090d ago

They might buy some DLC or something like that, but I dont see them changing anything to major in the hardware. Not unless theyre releasing next year.

Gazondaily4090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

"'tactical advantage'??

Are people this unbelievably clueless? "

A tactical advantage doesn't necessarily mean changing the specs of the console. It can be something like presenting the show in a certain manner.

"The embarrassingly bad specs everyone has already seen for the next Xbox are it."

Ah okay, this sentence right here sums up your mentality.

[EDIT] Looking at your join date- another troll account I see. Grow up.

GodGinrai4089d ago

@cherry olsen

Unless YOU know the finalized spec of the nextbox, shut your pie hole.

there are currently two refference designs that have been rumoured for nextbox....one is based on a custom powerPC design the other based around the same jaguar APU as the PS4. seeing as nobody has spilled the beans on the final reference design..it would be wise to just pipe down,mate.

TheSurg4089d ago

@ Cherry_olsen

to remind you. Xbox 360 was supposed to have 256mb RAM which they doubled in the last moment on request of Epic Games for their unreal engine to work well.

fluffydelusions4089d ago

Not sure why people are talking about we know the finalized specs. Sony just very recently added that extra 4gb of ddr5 ram to PS4. Also as above poster stated the 360 was only going to ship with 256 until last minute. Simply put, we don't know anything.

Philoctetes4089d ago

"Tactical advantage?" Come on. Nobody cares about who announced first or who had the slicker presentation. All that matters is what the console does and what games you can play on it.

nukeitall4089d ago

All of this is specs and announcements are nothing more than to get the hardcore gamers excited. Fact is, none of this is likely to really have a big bearing on the console race.

It is more in the long term execution. A good example of this is the 3DS, whom started off very slowly, but with Nintendo's swift management managed to turn it around. On the flip side, the PS Vita whom was almost universally praised at announcement is quickly turning into a flop.

So what have we learned? Execution over claims regardless of who it is, MS, Sony, Nintendo or anyone else.

nveenio4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

Sony's reveal shows that Microsoft really CAN'T improve its hardware to beat the PS4 specs unless they're interested in costing more or losing more money. This is for the simple fact that the PS4 is as good as it can be while remaining affordable for a home console. Any advantage Microsoft wants to make will have to be software based. This means more publisher exclusivity and a stronger Xbox Live (because the next-gen PS4 makes grand promises, which, if delivered upon, will make PSN a total behemoth).

Microsoft won't focus on hardware, only software. If they don't bring the hardcore, they're going to have a rough time beating Sony's offerings.

Gildarts4089d ago

@inveni0
Microsoft has the money to pull that off last minute unlike Sony. It happened to the 360 and i don't see why it couldn't happen again now that they have made even more money from the 360

For those who don't know 360 was gonna have 256mb of ram then they upgraded it to 512 when epic said it won't. be Able to run unreal engine very well and showed them the graphics on 256mb and 512

ABizzel14089d ago

@The realness

Not to be on his side, but the rumored specs. for the Nextbox are likely true. The rumors in the PS4 were spot on besides having 8GB of GDDR5 instead of 4GB.

The Nextbox rumors were given by the same sources, so it's likely they're stuck with what they have besides upping their RAM from 8GB.

admiralvic4089d ago

@ Cherry_Olsen

M$ definitely has a tactical advantage, but it comes at the cost of living up to expectations. Now they don't have to just be good, but be on par or better than what we've seen from the PS4. Even if the specs are in fact final (some people seem to think that better specs = better games), they could have a stronger showing of games or more interesting features to beat Sony. A lot of what you will see is them announcing comparable features to the PS4 and announce things that might make them look better than Sony. For instance being backwards compatible.

@ Nukeitall

The 3DS was actually praised / viewed highly after its initial showing. So much so (or at least logically so) that it ended up with the absurd $250 dollar launch price. The 3DS also followed the Vita in terms of lack of games, sales and support at the start. The only difference is that Nintendo had to drop the price and is a little more established. Give it some time and the Vita will come back.

Deputydon4089d ago

Microsoft will almost certainly show the actual Console. A lot of people will consider MS to actually be the first to reveal considering they will actually show what the console looks like.

Either way, I expect Sony to have the best console, yet again.

Jockamo4089d ago

The reason why MS thought it strange to not show the actual console is because visual aesthetics are just as important as brand recognition. This has been a cornerstone to MS's marketing of the 360. Always show the console. Always show the console. Definitely less so w/ the PS3. But marketing research goes hand in hand w/ the research of the technology. It's almost as if Sony didn't finish deciding what the thing would look like, so they couldn't even show a prototype of the actual device. That's why it was weird and, quite honestly, I'm glad MS called them out on it.

greenpowerz4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

We have no idea what an motivated company can do with cash to changed things at the last minute.

We are also assuming when these new consoles are actually going to be out vs what is rumored or said.

360 specs were changed late because a developer wanted more RAM for GEARS (((LOOKS LIKE SURGE ALREADY SAID THIS)

The mistake is assuming the PS4 is or was the most powerful console based on old leaked info and rumors that are false or outdated.

-What matters is that the 360 was wildly successful

-MSFT made alot of cash

-360 price was never dropped much due to demand

-MSFT has so much revenue coming in they can take a massive hit from the 720 launch price.

-MSFT wants to use the xbox as a platform for all their products insuring the 720 has to be basically a Home theater PC(very powerful)

-MSFT purchased lots of studios and had them all focus on the 720.

-xbox 720 will be something very different from anything we have ever seen.

} This is why Sony changed the specs in the PS4 to slightly out do the old outdated specs that were leaked from MSFT.

There was an article on N4G about a month ago that had supposed PS4 devs saying Sony had 4 gigs of memory at first but changed the specs to match the leaked specs of the 720 that had 8 gigs. Clearly Sony thinks they one uped MSFT not considering those where old internal plans.

For all we KNow the 720 is more PC with 10 gigs of ram and has a subsidized payment plans(MSFT already testing that with 360) for a more PC-sh SKU like what was rumoured

GraveLord4089d ago

Not really. Revealing after Sony is a disadvantage. Like it or not, Microsoft is reacting to Sony. Sony made the first move, PS4 is the first next-gen console revealed and developers love what Sony is doing with the system. Expect PS4 to be the lead platform next-gen.

greenpowerz4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

So is Sony reacting to Nintendo then? As if being first to reveal something can't be an recation to others that have not revealed yet LOL

You do know going first is the ultimate recation right? MSFT went first this gen reacting to Sony's dominance of the past.

Nintendo and Sony are reacting to MSFT's dominance this gen. MSFT has forced them to move on.

You really think a company only gets concerned when somebody goes first? A company that forces others hands also knows they are a force to be reconed with as well as needing to be ready to defend that dominance.

Anyway I'm not buying the statemnt from the Sony devs saying the PS4 reveal caused mayham at MSFT.

MSFT probably already considered they would force Sony to jump the gun getting the first hype going.
Sony doesn't even have a console, not just cosmetically either but it's basically in concept on PC.

Ju4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

MS did not show the 360 at E3 2005. In fact those were all locked away boxes and supposed to be souped up PowerPC (Macs) at the time. Google it. MS has a history to fake their way through press events (Kinect "choreographic" anyone?), but yet this is always OK with them and their fans. I don't really care, tbh. I made up my mind already, won't get both and what I saw is sufficient to say, I made a decision already. Go figure (no surprise there, I guess). Call me a fanboy, doesn't really bother me (you people have made up your mind a long time ago anyway, so what does it matter).

MS can't change the specs, either. Not much headroom for what they did. Not sure if they will have the muscles to add more CUs to the GPU; this is probably in range of possibilities. But adding RAM is one thing, re-engineering a chip when you should actually be working on that BOM to kick start production by mid of the year to fulfill supply and demand for the holidays is another. Especially because MS went the complicated route with their chipset design. This is locked down and done, they can't just pop in another GPU - if they really want to release this year. And they can't change the way the memory works without throwing the whole concept over board.

MS has a new Kinect. And this is just the wrong focus. It's a nice add on, but not the core (at least for me, who knows what the majority wants). They invest almost as much into this thing as into the console itself; not sure if that's so smart; and eventually it is nothing new.

Gaikai integration in PSN is the biggy here; maybe not really visible for some, but this will make a whole online experience, you'll see. (I'm not talking about a Gaikai client, but how this works with Vita, tablets, phones, and the instant feature in PSN - maybe they stole that from MS. Who knows).

UE4 debut on PS4, so that is also some for of guarantee that those "cheap" ports will do just fine now.

And Green, sure MS forced Sony to do what they are doing - but I guarantee you they were shocked they actually pulled that off.

And about the showing...I can just tell you that there are actually devboxes for the PS4 - not boards in a PC case;) Just saying.

Hey, and speaking of "forcing". If MS shows us something in April, I am sure that they were "forced" by Sony to not let them sail away with all the buzz they are getting right now. I'm sure this wasn't planned.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

Foe all I know sony could of made up the specs! Maybe it's 10gb ram.. Who knows sony showed nothing and they might be waiting for MS to show the box so they can try to make a better looking design.

Sony seems to be trying to throw MS off..

That-Guy4089d ago

So all that Sony needs to do now is keep its hype going. And around Microsoft's event pitch in extra info to steal some of their thunder.

Mikeyy4089d ago

I would like to leave some food for thought that brings some validity to cherry_olsen's statement.

Think way back when the Xbox 360 released, and the PS3 wasnt released for another year afterwards. You would naturally think to yourself that they can look at the Xbox 360s hardware, and spend the extra year beefing it up and making sure they out do it, but something happened, they didnt. Not even a RAM upgrade. WHY? Because you can't make last minite changes to the architecture so close to release. Developers rely on the final specs and completely changing that would put them well behind and cause them to possibly miss launch.

What I'm getting at is the leaked specs are going to be accurate, and Microsoft doesnt have the time to change any major components. Thats what the last 7 years was for. You can't gut the whole damn system and upgrade it all in the last 7 months. You have to start production of the parts during that time.

So don't expect MS to announce 8gb of GDDR5 and the Titan GPU come april. It's too late, even if they wanted to spend the money, there is no time.

MrMister4089d ago

Sony should have waited for M$ to go first. Like they said they would do. The only other reason for Sony to go first is if they also plan to have it in stores first. But who knows...

Viper74089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

Sure there's slight tactical advantage, but considering how SuperDaE leaked the Orbis details with most of the info being spot on, I think both of the manufacturers have pretty good idea what the other is after. (he leaked Durango info as well.)

It's like poker where suddenly the 3rd player picks the cards of the other two and throws em on the table for everyone to see.

but unlike in poker, you can't just quit the game and back your bags.

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ritsuka6664090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

April will be a awesome month for 360 owners indeed :)

Anyway, MS already say they are working in 4 new IPS for XBOX 720. Can't wait for see this news games...

http://www.trustedreviews.c...

bicfitness4090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

From your article: "a core AAA shooter experience using Kinect." Nothing else is known about the rest, but I bet at least one more is Kinect based - they need to recoup their costs and are determined to shove the peripheral down everyone's throats.

Do you read what you post? Judging from how successful - read: not successful - Kinect has been with core gamers and for core games, I don't know why anyone is excited for more Kinect 2.0 shovelware.

Also, a significant portion of MS' "next-gen" development went into that massive television/ advertising/ cross-media studio that they opened. So if you're expecting a tsunami of awesome 1st party AAA games, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

DARK WITNESS4089d ago

it could be, or it could be a very big disappointment depending on your expectations..

we will have to wait and see.

hazardman4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

Looks like Sony wants to make MOVE a big part of the way you game too. You just in denial..lol Sonybot these days!

Gildarts4089d ago

This is from their wiki, i can see at least. 10 new ip's. of course they might not announce them at the same time but you be the judge.

343 Industries – Halo series
Connected Experiences – Untitled Project – Design Large scale multiplayer title and help other first party studios
Good Science Studio – Kinect Adventures, Kinect Fun Labs
Kids and Lifestyle Entertainment – Untitled Project
Microsoft Studios – Los Angeles – Untitled Project
Microsoft Studios – Mobile Gaming – ilomilo
Microsoft Studios – Redmond Publishing – Overseeing and co-developing multiple projects in conjunction with third party development studios
Platform Next Studios – Untitled Project
Playful Learning – Untitled Project
Skybox Sports – Untitled Project
Turn 10 Studios – Forza Motorsport series
Twisted Pixel Games – The Gunstringer, LocoCycle
Xbox Live Productions – South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!, South Park: Tenorman's Revenge, Avatar Kinect

Europe
Lionhead Studios – Fable series, Black & White series; Unannounced MMO-like New IP
Lift London – Multiple Cloud Based gaming projects
Rare Ltd. – Banjo-Kazooie series, Viva Piñata, Perfect Dark series, Kinect Sports series
Soho Productions – Kinect Sesame Street TV
Press Play – Untitled Project[24]

Canada
BigPark – Joy Ride series, Kinect Sports: Season Two
Black Tusk Studios – Untitled Project
Microsoft Studios Victoria – Untitled Project

brave27heart4089d ago

"AAA shooter experience using kinect"

Im not going to state my opinion on this, I want ALL OF YOU to show your opinions.

Agree on this comment if you're happy with a AAA shooter experience using kinect.

Disagree if you'd rather it was just a AAA shooter experience.

JackBNimble4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

@ hazardman

how much of the ps move did sony showcase at the ps4 reveal?
That's right, next to none... besides the one segment.

I am willing to bet that 90% of MS 1st party studios will be nothing but kinect... just wait and see.
Looks like it's going to suck being an xbox fanboy next gen , especially if you're forced to be online to play anything!

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princejb1344090d ago

Awesome news
I hope ms releases a great console
But one thing that's gonna justify my purchase is free online gameplay
Common ms get with the trend Sony and Nintendo do it

Cueil4089d ago

wouldn't mind basic free service... with all the extra being under a paid service

AngelicIceDiamond4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

Noooo that's so far!? Late March at least. I guess MS will stay diligent, focused, and finalize their hardware. Until then, keep the PS4 news rollin for the mean time.

user39158004089d ago

Keep the trolls guessing on what will be lol... Let sony and nintendo know whos got the football. Suspense its the mother load of all trolls, so keep them waiting until the final blow.

I know what you have, would you like to see mines? lol...

If the leak was correct from superdae, there will be hardly any diference at all, except for speed. Problem with that its on ram, but even high end pc all they need is 8gb of ram and a 6 core to run the most up to date pc game. Both sony and MS will be closed together more similar than ps3 and 360 cause of the same company providing same cpu anf similar gpu. At the end of the day both will be PC ports to each other.

I think MS will have the most innovation this gen, sony showed nothing besides high harware spec and outdated remote thats been around 15 years and now add another 8 years to ps4 remote ugh...

Plasticgearsolid4089d ago

if they announce their console its not going to be at an event likes Sony's its going to be just a statement since its so close to E3

WiiUsauce4089d ago

I hope so!!! I can't wait for Microsoft to put all these Sony fanboys in check.

Jaces4089d ago

It is going to be interesting to see what Xbox has in store and how they plan to respond in kind. The jump into next gen gaming always gets me excited. Can't wait!

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StrongMan4090d ago

I don't believe this. If MS responds now then what will they have to show at E3?

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BLAKHOODe4090d ago

Sony pulled it off and still has plenty to show at E3. So, I don't see why Microsoft couldn't do the same.

ZeroX98764090d ago

they got 4 New IP to show, so I'm hoping to see maybe 1-2 of them and some third party games. Maybe even BF4? And we all know that even with 4 new IP, microsoft won't abandon their old franchises, so maybe a sequel from one of them?

hazardman4089d ago

I like your amazing streak.. I never seen a more lopsided vote. I like it, 31 in a row.

maddfoxx4089d ago

Pretty sure both Sony and Microsoft are saving things for E3. Sony can announce the price point and any bundles that they may be looking to sell. They will probably show the final design of the console along with demos of the games that were shown at the ps4 announcement. SE even said something about the next Final Fantasy being at E3 (I hope its FF: Versus). I dont own a 360 this gen, but I'm still excited to see what Microsoft will show. I'm still amazed the Microsoft managed to rack up more JRPG's this gen.

UnholyLight4089d ago

Sony showed even more than I expected but there's still LOTS left on the table to show.

brave27heart4089d ago

E3 will be the place final specs, release dates and prices are nailed down. They can show the console off and still have plenty for E3.

SDF Repellent4089d ago

Dude StrongMan, do you even think before you type?

How about Sony, what will they show at E3 since they already reveal the PS4 already. Your PS3 defense force mates can't even give you an "Agree" because of how silly that comment is.

Hicken4089d ago

You were on the right track... for about three seconds.

There's still PLENTY surrounding the PS4 that can be revealed. Launch games, entry price, the actual design of the system, details surrounding the online, and more.

Yes, Microsoft obviously has EVERYTHING they can show at this point. But Sony's not out of cards to play.

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Hands Up For Games4090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

Ding Ding. Round 2!

UnholyLight4089d ago

Everyone get your popcorn ready, this is gonna be awesome

ApolloTheBoss4090d ago

I knew they'd do this. They can't let Sony get the upper hand. But if they don't show the console that just means they were taking notes from Sony.

Just_The_Truth4089d ago

I don't get why the shell of a machine matters so much to people....

Jaces4089d ago

It's like buying a new car knowing all of it's specs but you don't have a clue what it looks like.

It's mainly for us geeks who quiver at the thought of the design.

R_aVe_N4090d ago

IGn stated this on Podcast Beyond this week. I think they were giving people hints as to when Microsoft were going to announce XD

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest4d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN4d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan4d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor3d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic3d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv723d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares4d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv724d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka4d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion4d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer4d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow14d ago (Edited 4d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer4d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar4d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn4d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18814d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast4d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning774d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole3d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning774d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning774d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast4d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning774d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast3d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv724d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes4d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv729d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle8d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18818d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio8d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning778d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga8d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv728d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19928d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21838d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga8d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan8d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit8d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus238d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv728d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier8d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan7d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1018d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos8d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-8d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac8d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1018d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead8d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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