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Will the next Xbox destroy second-hand gaming?

Which? Convo: There are rumours going round that Microsoft’s next Xbox console will remove the ability for users to buy and sell their games on the second-hand market. And if that’s true, I certainly won’t be buying one.

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Chaostar4108d ago

Wow, that pic is a big reminder just how much HMV overcharge for games. Makes me kind of glad they're going under, sad but true.

On topic though, second hand games will only disappear if both Sony and MS block them, however there's still always Ninty, which we know for sure hasn't... yet.

PS3Freak4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

It reminds me of the fact that used game places love to stick difficult to remove stickers ALL over game cases.

Hate that shit. Looking at you EB/Gamestop.

decrypt4107d ago

"On topic though, second hand games will only disappear if both Sony and MS block them"

It might surprise a lot of people at how this goes through.

If this does happen it probably wont be only MS doing it, Sony will join hands too. It wont be a question of Sony's willingness to do this, It will be pressure from the major publishers to implement this. It probably will happen as online passes got implemented for both the platforms at the same time.

StrongMan4108d ago

If they do they will destroy themselves.

classic2004108d ago

LOL just imagine microsoft announcing they are blacking used games, this would be like the biggest suicide a company could do to themselves. This only can work if everybody decide to do it and that would still kill sales since some region around the world have people who do not have internet right through the year because of many different reason.

delboy4107d ago

They won't kill physical copies, just used games.
And you don't need Internet to do it , look at Sony's patent.

CommonSenseGamer4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

Apple, Android, Sony and MS have been proving for years that they can survive in a marketplace without second hand sales. Otherwise iTunes, play Store, PSN and Marketplace would not be nearly as successful.

So many times I see people say things like I bet they didn't count downloaded game sales in their totals, well, each download means one less potential copy up for resale later on.

Hicken4108d ago

None of that is the same or even remotely similar an ecosystem as console gaming. What works on iTunes or Steam doesn't work on PS3 or 360.

The digital ecosystem is fundamentally different. There's no physical media to own, and in the case of Steam, frequent sales make it more bearable.

At the same time, PC has never really had a used market. PC gamers don't really take their games to their friends' houses- unless they've got it installed on a laptop, but that's fairly new in PC gaming. Due to the nature of PC games, it's never been possible to trade in a game towards another.

Again, console gaming is different from PC gaming, on a fundamental level. So the methods that work on PC don't necessarily work on consoles, and vice versa.

Used games is one of those things that works on one, but not the other.

Jakens4107d ago

Even music tried to do something.

Bagogames4108d ago

Personally I'm all for digital at this stage. I do understand in hard times people may not be able to pay the $60 dollar price point but this might influence Microsoft and Sony to take a cheaper approach on there games in the next gen stage.

HebrewHammer4108d ago

They wouldn't. It doesn't sound like Sony is going to implement this into the PS4, so MS doing so would put them in a bit of a predicament - to say the least...

Megaton4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

This is what I don't like about N4G. Something happens, and then for the next 2 weeks every blogger comes out from under their bridge to post the same 2 or 3 opinions over and over and over and over again.

BanBrother4108d ago

Yeah seriously, these articles have all been the same. Boring. I highly doubt they will implement it. I just find it funny that a 'rumour' gets more attention than an actual patent. Stupid beyond belief.

I suppose we can just ignore it though, as hopefully the reactions to these articles may prove helpful in relinquishing any thought from console makers to implement such a blatant attack on our free decisions, our rights.

They should instead reward those who buy new, instead of punish everyone. That is the problem, developers/publishers are too greedy, and want the best of both worlds. If I buy a brand new game, DAY 1, I do not want to see any day one dlc. It should be free, as a thank you for my loyalty. Make used buyers pay for them, etc. Don't punish, reward, you greedy f***s

SJPFTW4108d ago

Funny thing is Microsoft or Sony don't even have to black out used games... publishers are already doing that already with online passes and that sort. EA is leading the way soon others will follow.

This story is blown out of proportion. Just wait and see till both systems are announced

StreetsofRage4107d ago

Bingo! N4G has so much internet pollution.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 7h ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow20h ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo18224m ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

OtterX3h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Tody_za3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno12m ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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Game Studio Closures, Entertainment News, Disney, And More Skewedcast

The full Skewedcast crew back for this episode and Gareth, Justin, Michael, and JoeyZ at Skewed and Reviewed break down the latest entertainment news qith a focus at 40:00 on the Microsoft Studio Closures and how it impacts the game community and what can be done to help offset this negative trend.

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What is the point of Xbox?

Xbox has repeated the same terrible mistakes for over a decade. The reason is simple: its priorities are back-to-front.

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purple1011d 4h ago

ohhh man, the press really did not like those last closures, their having a field day bashing xbox,

anyway, ive got to nip off to the shops now, i've run out of microwave popcorn.

Jingsing12h ago

Apparently the last 10 years wasn't enough to get the gaming press to notice but as soon as they touch Bethesda it is full on nuclear war. A lot of people in the gaming press seem to have this irrational hard on for Fallout and Skyrim despite the fact they are low quality poor buggy games.
I've grown tiresome of the unbalanced fandom in the gaming press for fantasy games and their ability to just forgive crap so long as it's a fantasy game RPG game all quality concerns are not an issue for them,

anast12h ago

Popcorn has been good lately.

PapaBop9h ago

Clearly this is just a big conspiracy orchestrated by the popcorn industry, Microsoft are just their puppets, every time they open their mouths, I'm forced to stock up on popcorn.

TheEroica3h ago

Yep, Microsoft and Sony are a mess. Neither have a compelling business strategy and they're not making bangers anymore.

anast1h ago

Which Sony games are you talking about?

PhillyDonJawn35m ago

You enjoying all the bs Sony and MS been doing? Shame on you

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 3h ago

Xbox is getting rightfully roasted here

Einhander19721d 2h ago

The only point to xbox is and always has been to take market share and money from PlayStation and Nintendo, but mostly PlayStation. It's been the goal since sweaty Steve Balmer said it himself.

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ApocalypseShadow20h ago

Yup. To put Sony out of business because they thought they were a threat to their Windows business.

solideagle7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Genuinely curious: how is Sony (hardware company) threat to Windows (operating system/software company) business?

isarai1d ago

I mean the motto "xbox, the most optional console ever made" was peaked years ago, people are just now taking a step back from deepthroating Phil to see what we've all been seeing for a long time now.

Ra303047m ago

The current Microsoft Xbox motto is .....We're Microsoft Xbox, and we don't care and it shows!

P_Bomb23h ago

I’ve still got friends that main on XB. For their sake, I hope it sticks around. They’ve put everything into that ecosystem. It’s all or nothing.

I wonder if we’ll ever get back the level of competition seen during the 360/PS3 era?

NotoriousWhiz13h ago

Seems like Daddy Microsoft is trying to shut it down. Or at least bring costs under control. On the bright side, it seems likely that acquisitions are going to stop.

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