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PS4 and Xbox 720 Frostbite engine tech help sought by ‘Battlefield 3’ developer (Photos)

DICE, the developer behind “Battlefield 3,” today posted a job offer seeking a Senior Software Developer for next-generation systems like the PS4 and Xbox 720. Some of the job description mentions that the employee will be working as a part of an “AAA game team” with the “Frostbite engine tech.” You can check out some concept images of the PS4 and Xbox 720 from Yanko Design, as well as some pictures of what appears to the PS4 controller, in the slideshow at the top of this article and the details below (via D

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akaakaaka4136d ago (Edited 4136d ago )

That looks sexy!
Ps4 can do 4k2k games Pew pew pew ahhhhh I got exited sorry XD

ThatHappyGamer4136d ago

4K resolution is not gonna happen for games, maybe for movies. 1080p + 60FPS is what we gonna get for games.

DeadlyFire4136d ago

Well if Sony/Microsoft can push 3-5 Tflops out of a console then yes 4K will happen at 30fps for the consoles. Top PC cards can push current games at 20-25 fps. On a console platform with same 4ish Tflops and optomization we could easily see 4K at 30 fps. That makes 1080p + 60 FPS not only possible, but definite if 4K is their aim.

stragomccloud4136d ago

@Deadly fire
No, because the average consumer will never have 80" tvs.

tee_bag2424136d ago (Edited 4136d ago )

You guys thinking 4k @ 60 fps is going to happen on the consoles keep buying into false hope.
You obviously don't realize HDMI cables and ports are bandwidth limited at this point in time.
If a PC has the grunt, they have the option to push that res and framerate because monitors can use the higher bandwidth m-DVI and dual m-DVI. This doesn't happen on TV's. The 4K TV's still only support sub 30 fps,
Honestly, Sorry to poo poo on your dreams but you should do some research on it before you talk nonsense.

Leviathan4136d ago

@ tee_bag: You have a point. That's why Sony invented a new wireless HDMI called DPconnect. Wireless.

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/...

But you would probably have known that if you ACTUALLY READ THE ARTICLE!

Ryto4136d ago

@Leviathan
That picture is a bunch of crap.
You aren't getting 4k native games. There is no demand for that technology, majority of consumers have only just adjusted to HD, no one is going to buy £40000 sets, even in 10 years they aren't feasible.

So before you blow of crap websites that a 10 year old has mocked up, go on reliable technology -non- sensationalist sites for accurate information, and if you cant handle that simply google BBC news.

DoomeDx4136d ago

Were not gonna get 60FPS. Believe me.
People still want to squeesh out as much juice as possible out of the console. So expect great looking games, in 30 FPS. there will be more 60fps games, definatly! But the graphical beasts will remain 30 FPS, but in 1080p.

Leviathan4136d ago

@ Ryto: Hdmi 2.0 is slated to be released very soon. Based on HDMI Forum meetings it is expected that WIRELESS HDMI 2.0 will increase the maximum TMDS per channel throughput from 3.4 Gbit/s to 6 Gbit/s which would allow a maximum total TMDS throughput of 18 Gbit/s.This will allow HDMI 2.0 to support 4K resolution at 60 frames per second. Other features that are expected for HDMI 2.0 include support for 4:2:0 chroma subsampling, support for 25 fps 3D formats, improved 3D capability, support for more than 8 channels of audio, support for the HE-AAC and DRA audio standards, dynamic auto lip-sync, and additional CEC functions.

Before you guys call bullsheep, why don't you do a little truth digging of your own.

kneon4136d ago

@tee_bag242

HDMI 1.5 is supposed to be released soon and I'm sure that will address any bandwidth issues.

tubers4136d ago

Devs like to put more geometry and other effects. I bet we're still heading to 1280x720 land @ 30 fps but a good trade off for games that would look more amazing.

I bet 1080p@60 FPS is more likely to be reserved for "PS3 Classics".

tee_bag2424135d ago

@ kneon. HDMI 1.5 may very well be getting released soon, but it doesn't change the fact that 99% of HDTV's HDMI ports are still infact bandwidth limited.
A HDTV display can still only receive a input of 1080p @ 60 fps or a 3D input of 1080p at 24 fps.
HDTV's having an 200Htz + refresh rate is a totally different thing, that internal processing. They still can't receive the higher bandwidth

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morkendo234136d ago (Edited 4136d ago )

from the photos

ps4 look like SMALL!!!! google box tv box,controllers with BALLS at the end???. 720 look barely unchanged with infer-red light (kinect) i'll hold onto my ps3 hope for the best.
not impress one bit with next GEN consoles.

DeadlyFire4136d ago

You do know those are concept photos of the consoles. Not confirmed design. The controllers are from patents, but not confirmed to be only way to play. Likely Dualshock 4 will appear for PS4. If its not broke don't fix it. I don't see why anyone wants the controller to change.

FragMnTagM4136d ago

I know that I would like to see a change to the PS3 controller.

I have never like Sony's controller.

The Power A controller I got for the PS3 has increased my playing ten fold compared with Sony's DS3.

I don't use the tips of my thumbs or I have to bend them at extreme angle on the DS3 in order to not slap them together every five seconds.

In case you hadn't noticed, I got long fingers and I just can't get used to the controller no matter how I hold it.

I got this: http://static.bdasites.com/... for my son and I can use it just fine. The reason being, that the sticks are seperated and it allows my thumbs not to slam into each other.

I actually like that small controller as I get a quicker response time due to the buttons being closer to the sticks and plan on getting one for myself.

At the very least Sony should release two different versions of the DS4, or just make the sticks interchangeable with the D pad.

Hellsvacancy4136d ago

Im not liking the looks of the PS4 controller

Raoh4136d ago

Neither am I, I hate the 360 controller layout, love the size but hate the analog stick positions. I have a 360 controller for my pc and my left thumb starts to hurt after long gaming runs.

Raoh4136d ago

I love that people disagree with what happens to me as if they are here with me.

TheGamerDood4136d ago

These devs are no longer playing coy I guess, :D Bring on next gen baby!

ATi_Elite4136d ago

Hey that's pretty cool....Dual shock controller comes apart and now you got a Move controller! That's pretty slick!

4K Games ha ha ha, not happening! Oh your gonna play 4K games on your 720p TV cause 4K TV's cost $20,000!

Next Gen will brag about 4k and will deliver just as many 4K AAA games as this Gen delivered AAA 1080p games which is ZERO!!!!

Oh and 4K TV's cost $20,000 so while your hitting the disagree button remember that 4K TV's cost $20,000 and there currently is NO media or broadcast in 4K resolution for those $20,000 TV's!

So just be happy with 1080p @ 60fps!

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4136d ago

Let 4k go.... Noone is buy a $20k tv and sony knows that.

GraveLord4136d ago

Nintendo thought the same about HD. Look what happened.

rbjmaster4136d ago

They sold the most consoles ?

XB1_PS44136d ago

@gravelord I bought a 26" HD TV just after my xbox, it cost $650 at the time. There is no such thing as a small 4kTv which means they will always be in the multi thousands of dollars. They're not a viable target for a console market.

nirwanda4136d ago

Both consoles are very likely to do what MS did this gen with a chip that will scale to a 4k res.

hazardman4136d ago

im trying to figure out how theyre gonna scale 4k res on 1080p display, and how you thought of it.. to me it makes no sense.

Hozi4136d ago (Edited 4136d ago )

The only thing we should expect is to be let down. Sony and MS live in a fantasy world and only when their consoles are out on shelves do they wake up and say
"oh shit, we screwed up big time, lets try and fix this mess quickly"

all I'm saying is you have to know by now that is SONY says it will support 4k at 60fps, then we will only get half of that and only some games might be 60fps. M$ too!So if games will really run at 60fps and be in completely 1080p but look like the agnis philosophy tech demo. I will be a very happy gamer.

akaakaaka4136d ago

Most of you guys act like lil 13 year old getting their menstruation wow.

Ok 4k tv are expensive because the ones that are on sale are 83" and is a technology for rich people.
Eveb 1080p83" or 100" are super expensive.

4k tvs wil be made in 32" and up and the price eventually will come down to price and I don't mind gaming bext gen ganes on my 1080p tv because it will also look amazing in it to until I decide to get a 8k tv
Yes tvs will be 8k but for movies only and 2k or 4k will be tge native for ganes. Just like this gen 720p was the native for ganes and 1080p the bative for movie's ..

rainslacker4135d ago

The price will come down, but will it come down in time to make it relevant for the next generation's life span? I could see it in the PS5 or next nextBox, but a year or so from now? No.

HDTV's were already down to around $700 for a basic model when the PS3 launched, so it was already relevant to this gen. I know this because I brought my PS3 and HDTV on the same day. That $700 TV I brought as a floor model for $400, and only just replaced it 2 days ago.

HDTV also had more hype, and while not everyone saw the benefit over SD, the difference was clear enough to make a lot of people want it. This just isn't going to be the case with 4K, as the differences are much less noticeable.

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KangarooSam4136d ago

Cool concept designs. Still hoping Sony doesn't follow through with the split dualshock/move thing, it doesn't look that appealing. But the second gen bluray discs sound sweeeet. So excited.

Riderz13374136d ago

Why not? It can be used for some amazing gameplay for games such as Skyrim. Imagine having one side being used as a sword and the other as a shield. That would be epic for you to control the blocking/attacking.

TheGamerDood4136d ago

Exactly. Who cares what it looks like all that matters is how it improves gameplay.

Hozi4136d ago

Umm, we have the Move for that. Oh wait a sec, Bethesda didn't make it compatible with move? too bad, I doubt they would take the time to program their games for a new split style controller.

rainslacker4135d ago

@Hozi

They might if it was standard on the system. However I hope if the controller does do something like this then it has those balls smaller or detachable, because that looks rather distracting to me. I also hope they don't force motion control into early games to prove it's necessary(ahem...Lair).

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Godchild10204136d ago (Edited 4136d ago )

I like the way the Dev kit concept art of the next Xbox looks. It looks really sleek and smooth.

As for the PS4, I hope they don't change the controller button layout. I'm one of the many PlayStation 3 owners that prefer that controller layout. Also, please, Sony don't force move down your Consumer's throats. We might end up rebelling.

Riderz13374136d ago

Holy shit "blu ray Deuce" holds up to 3 times more data. Hope this is true cause then open world games can become massive.

MultiConsoleGamer4136d ago

Zero truth.

"Next generation systems." Does not mention PS4 or Xbox 720.

Slide show images are all bad fakes.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7221h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle8h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18816h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio5h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7759m ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga8h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21837h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga6h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus231h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7257m ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10111h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-15m ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac9h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead38m ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein20h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno16h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k415h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson14h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu15h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson14h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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This Gigabyte GPU is now among the cheapest RTX 4090s on Amazon after a hefty deal

On Amazon, you can't get an RTX 4090 for less than this one from Gigabyte, which now offers great value after an eye-catching April deal.