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What Sony and Microsoft Can Learn from the Wii U Launch

What can rival console makers learn from the launch of Nintendo's Wii U? Quite a bit, actually.

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Hatsune-Miku4173d ago

They can learn not to release a weak console.

akaakaaka4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

Why is he a troll?
He as I and most gamers are mad that one of the big games corp. Do not use high end tech for their console anymore. And do not please the hardcore or third party gamed anymore..
Ninty have become chrip old tech tech milkers and not innovative anymore tech wise.

Yes their touch screen is old for games and console side screen has be done with the psp before, cool that ninty took it to a new level but old.

Edith..
Tell that to the ps3, it did have high end tech when it launch, not in every part or components was high end but it was up there, and don't play the smart guy you know what I meant when I say that you ninty fanboy last time I check I grow up with nintendo and I have the right to ask for more and better technology from nintendo, they sold well and this is what they made old.

Just like cod games they sale a lot but they only milk it and not use new technology, it's a shame to support them whoever does.

Ducky4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

Consoles don't usually have high end tech.
They did popularize motion gaming last-gen, so the innovation is there.

It's also been quite a while since Nintendo had the most advanced hardware.

ElectricKaibutsu4171d ago

Why would that make you mad? You have two other console makers who will make the exact system you want, with tons of power and plenty of ram. If you only plan on buying one next gen system and don't care about Nintendo games, the Wii U is just one less console you need to consider.

akaakaaka4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

Obviously I say I growth up playing nintendo games I like zelda, metroid, mario kart but using old tech when they have the money and time to developed a AAA games that is relative to new technology so I can care again about them, I will love to play a new zelda that is relative to current gen (if I want to play old tech I will go back and play okarina of time's)
Let indie devs to use old technology, multimillion corp. Like nintendo should focus on new technology.

N4g_null4171d ago

The gpgpu and wireless displays with gyros are new technology ??? Even the blu ray is faster. No one is even using it correctly yet and it can already do last gen ports.

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SilentNegotiator4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

Bu bu but I know better than professional game developers! I googled "GPGPU"!!
They just don't even know how to use it yet! Even Nintendo is baffled by it, creating 720p games with just post-AA, and slow menus!
The idea of a GPGPU is ONLY 30 years old! No one GETS it yet!
Nvidia has ONLY been working with modern ones since the turn of the century!
COME ON, GUIS!

Aaaaaaanyway, it's not like they're likely to make hardware changes now, if the very solid rumors of 2013 releases are true.

gpturbo814171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

you need to get out in the world a bit. get laid, smoke a bowl, enjoy life. you are waaay too into it. their just video games. maybe take a shit, your probably just constipated

SilentNegotiator4171d ago

I didn't know enjoying parody was such a shallow pursuit. Thank you for showing me, TEH ERRORS OF MAH WAIS

chukamachine4171d ago

Yep gpturbo81.

I took a shit, it's awesome dude.

Feel like a new man.

I was even told last night by a 360 player, that Microsoft are more a games company then SONY.

I told him to take a shit, smack his head. Take the green stuff off his eyes.

As for Nintendo, they think because they Won big with the WII, they will win with the WII-U. It's underpowered, nobody cares about a screen controller, and most people only buy Nintendo for Nintendo games. Wii was a fluke because soccer mums and gran parents bought them for children to get involved in easy games.

Won't happen again.

When Nintendo loses against PS4, will People that realize that winning one gen, does not mean winning the next.

Just like android shits all over apple.

GribbleGrunger4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

It's a sad state of affairs when someone simply states, in a succinct way, the answer to a question. It might be a bitter pill but he's right. I sold my Wiiu the day after I got it... and that's not like me.

I found it awkward and unappealing. I'm the most disappointed person here because. I was completely convinced that Nintendo had put the casuals to bed and entered next gen... Boy was I wrong.

If you enjoy the Wiiu then that's sweet. This is down to personal preference and not an attack on anyone's 'values'. I cringed when Sony said that next gen started when they said it does and I'm now cringing because Nintendo just don't understand what next gen means

ElectricKaibutsu4171d ago

I guess trolling is in the eye of the beholder.

GribbleGrunger4171d ago

Well, he might be trolling and he might not. Perhaps, just like me, he's really disappointed.

Ben_Grimm4171d ago

The console JUST released how can you be disappointed so fast? It hasn't even had a chance to gain legs and run the distance.

I find it funny that a lot of people here tell folks to give Vita a year and to wait patiently for more games to be released. But when it comes to the WiiU people are selling them back after a couple weeks (or so they say) or very disappointed by the lack of games and ports.

When the 360/PS3 launched it too had its share of ports only and games that looked no where near as good as they do now.

Why the quick dismissal of a new system all of a sudden?

thaimasker4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

Yes because then mabye they wouldn't have been so far the wii in sales.....

avengers19784171d ago

Probably that proper marketing is a valuable asset.

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ElectricKaibutsu4171d ago

This article is pretty spot on. I don't know about not releasing games already released on other systems though. Yeah, they don't sell great, but it sure is cheaper porting a game than making a new one. Some gamers have a backlog of games they're wading through and didn't get to all of this year's big releases. Being able to play one of those games on their new systems lets them: A, actually get use out of their new system through the inevitable launch drought and B, gives them a reason to experience those games even after all the hype is gone.

Good article imho.

Rageanitus4171d ago

honestly... sony and ms better watch what steambox has to offer

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

Less kid games.

Low Price.

Standard Hdd.

wiiVerse like networking.

BootHammer4171d ago

Great article. I agree the next Xbox and PlayStation need to be exhaustively tested and ready to play come launch day (no excessive patching).

They both must have exclusive titles will be KEY and of course the hardware itself will need a robust CPU and GPU (or GPGPU) paired with adequate Ram to future proof the machines. This will give the devs more tools and options at their disposal to be truly creative without limitations, which will give gamers the best games yet =)

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk771d 15h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE1d 12h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7301d 11h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor1d 8h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos1d 8h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor1d 8h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos1d 8h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus233d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC2d ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled3d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies3d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k43d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot3d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC2d ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k42d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k42d ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody3d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead3d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast3d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19793d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead5d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel5d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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