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PS4 & Wii U will be my System Purchases for Next Generation, Xbox 720 is out

By Furious Francis, editor-in-chief

With the Wii U being the first of the big three to release their next generation system, Nintendo has set a new standard for system versatility. Off TV Play with the Gamepad, Wiimote & Nun-chuck, and the Wii U Pro controller, the Wii U offers a bevy of ways to play your games. That type of versatility is exactly what I want out of a Nintendo system. MiiVerse is also one of the coolest applications to unite gaming communities ever, and is getting tons of love from around the internet. Sony has proven they deserve my money by releasing more quality games, free online play, and a premium service that’s actually worth my money. Microsoft on the other hand, has charged me for online multiplayer, released a firestorm of Kinect games, destroyed Rare, and melted three Xbox 360′s I’ve owned. It’s clear what systems I will be purchasing for the next generation of gaming: Wii U (which I already did) & the PS4.

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Venoxn4g4173d ago (Edited 4173d ago )

I actually regretted buying X360, howether there were some great games on it.. I liked all Gears, Katamari and some multiplat titles like Bayonetta, Vanquish, Shadows of the damned and some others.. next gen for me PC, PS4, Wii U, 3DS and maybe Vita

pangitkqb4172d ago

Next Gen for me: PS4, Xbox 720, new Graphics card for my gaming PC. Already have 3DS. Maybe a Vita if the price is dropped and a decent-sized memory card is included and a bigger library.

superterabyte4172d ago (Edited 4172d ago )

@pangitkqb So you're buying everything basically. Well it's nice for some. I'm definitely buying the next Sony console. Basically the reason for this is games. I have played all of the top ps3 exclusives and loved them all(except for resistance haven't played it yet). However I can't say the same for Nintendo or Microsoft. Cant stand Microsoft exclusives for me they are to 'Bro-ish' and I don't particularly enjoy nintendo's first party games either.

Also PlayStation plus is for me the best deal in gaming ever.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34172d ago

If I was to go by what happened with the PS3, I'll be waiting a few years before I buy a new console from Sony. But if they can kick out games sooner at launch then I have no problem getting one sooner...if the price is right. I havent forgot buying a PS3 at launch only to be playing Resistance and a few atrocious multiplats :/

Army_of_Darkness4172d ago

Have not been disappointed with Sony yet compared to the competition... plus, I can only afford one new console.

nukeitall4172d ago

I'm gonna wait until I know more before I decide on what to get first.

I tend to get all of them eventually, but I now have less time than I used too. :(

Kurt Russell4172d ago

I'm going to get a Ouya and maybe an xbox.

SolidStoner4171d ago

Well I buy anything that runs Gran Turismo! :)

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fermcr4172d ago

For me it's PC for sure ... and undecided between PS4 and X720, or maybe get both.

WiiU probably not.
3DS and Vita probably not. I've already passed that fade of portable gaming consoles. Have little interest in them.

DaReapa4172d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

I'm rocking the same boat. I got a gaming pc late last year so I just have to update the gfx card. As far as consoles go, i'll be playing the wait-and-see-what-interests-me -the-most game, as I hold no brand loyalty. But if it turns out anything like this gen did, it'll be PS again - considering that gaming doesn't become any more casual than it has gotten.

WiiUsauce4172d ago

I'm just sick and tired of paying for XBOX live. the only reason why I'm hanging on to my 360 right now is because Halo is the only FPS multiplayer I thoroughly enjoy and am quite good at.

xflo3604171d ago

I already have a wii u, ill be buying both a ps4 and 720 day one. Im a gamer. end of.

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ApolloTheBoss4173d ago

Definitely getting PS4 next gen. I'm done with Microsoft.

Cam9774172d ago (Edited 4172d ago )

I'm going with PS4 too. Despite a few hiccups (namely the Spring 2011 situation and SCEE's incompetence), my gaming experience with the PS3 has been nothing but a pleasure! It plays Blu-rays, DVDs and games with minimal space required! It has been fantastic using my PS3 over the last few years.

In addition, Playstation Plus - need I say more?

Eyeco4172d ago

I Can honestly see Microsoft going for a more casual approach next gen having Kinect 2.0 as a pack in, especially seeing as the WiiU kinda alienates the casual crowd, Microsoft pretty much has every reason to target the casual crowd. I'm not calling anything yet I could be wrong but given Microsoft's focus in recent years it's a high probability.

doogiebear4172d ago

Sony and PC: The havens for the hardcore

Reverent4172d ago

donbear,I dunno who's disagreeing with you but I totally agree. Can't wait for The Last of Us and DayZ standalone!

DEEBO4172d ago

My choice of systems are all three.why cut yourself short gaming.i know not everyone can afford all three but if you can go for it.when i was a kid i wanted every console that hit the market,but try telling your mother this 600$ neo geo is the next big thing will get you the look of death.but now that i'm an adult all i have to do is talk it over with the wife(like she can really stop me lol) but anyway i haven't miss owning all the console's since psx and i don't plan to started now.what really need to do is build me a gaming pc,not going to lie to you.graphics do matter! from a 2600 from the 80's to 360 this generation,graphics are the first thing a gamer notice about a new console.accept the wii.that lil wii remote did what nintendo does best.bringing in new gamers old,young and new.

neogeo4172d ago

You say something about neogeo?

yippiechicken4172d ago

Yeah, he said his mom didn't like you.
:)

yesmynameissumo4172d ago

Microsoft is going to have to bring the thunder in order for me to throw money at their console. Otherwise, knowing I have to be a Gold member to play online or...well, do anything, makes that the last console of choice. Between the Vita, Wii U and PS4/Orbis...I think I'll be good.

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Xbox, do you even have a plan anymore?

TSA asks what is the future for Xbox.

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Chocoburger12h ago

They clearly never did, hence why they spent so many BILLIONS on other publishers as a last resort.

anast11h ago

They have a plan. It's to move everything toward streaming and mobile. This is just the next step.

Cacabunga10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

With half of the money they spent, they could have been on the very top and the gaming industry would be way bigger than it is.. encourage developers, indies, make them grow trust them and they will deliver.

Tody_za9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

What are you talking about Cacabunga? The Xbox faithful insisted that Microsoft has infinite money, and after Activision they should buy Square Enix and Capcom before Sony does. There was no chance ever that Microsoft would do this. They would use their infinite millions and Bitcoins to invest in 50 new IP and beat everyone.

Tody_za7h ago

Did I really need to add a /s to my comment...

SonyStyled5h ago

The Parent company of Xbox spent billions on publishers, not Xbox

andy8511h ago

To ruin great studios it's looking like

Skuletor10h ago

Sure, a plan to be a more hated game company than EA. Ubisoft were recently giving them a run for their money but I think Xbox have really knocked it out the park with their latest stunt.

neutralgamer199210h ago

Absolutely not, their whole plan is at odd with what MS wants

Phil wants GP to become big
MS wants to sell games and make billions

GP can’t be sustained with AAA games which take 3-5 years and 7 figure budgets. Only go put those games on GP day one. Why do you think games are coming out on other platforms?

People want a change and want Phil gone without realizing if someone new comes along they may want to change everything again so we just keep going in circles. Phil has to realize that and give clear message on the direction of Xbox

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Brad Hilderbrand explains the reason behind the recent Xbox studio closures

There are two reasons why all those Bethesda studios closed, and neither of them have anything to do with Bethesda (directly)...

Game Pass and Activision.

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Christopher15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

The guy confirming what we've all (well, most of us) been saying since the latest purchase.

crazyCoconuts12h ago

Remember the relatively common counter that went something like "I'm sure you arm-chair CEOs know better how to run a company than the biggest company in the world"?

I mean - there's a lot to running a company for sure, but on this topic it's hard to understand how Phil and team didn't see this coming.

Tody_za12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Phil and team knew it was coming and planned for it. It's not even a conspiracy, it's simply the business of cutting costs and superfluous studios after a major acquisition. They don't give a damn about Tango Gameworks or other small creative studios that won't recoup their losses. They don't care about investing in this industry. They have no interest in risky and expensive new IP. They are only interested in profiting off ownership of Bethesda IP, Call of Duty and Candy Crush.

I guarantee you that not one single game under their banner will improve or become bigger and better.

Welcome to the Xbox family, what a pathetic joke.

Anyone who continues to support this, enjoy your future, because this is it. Ninja Theory is next, and Perfect Dark after that.

Christopher11h ago

Especially not with the evidence of tons of existing movie streaming subs out there and how they fail to make a profit with over 100m users each quarter.

fr0sty4h ago

Xbox releases more first party studios than first party games.

Lightning779h ago

Apparently they're debating if they wanna put the new Cod on Gamepass or not.

Either grow GP with Cod or don't put it on GP and grow the revenue the traditional way while GP will suffer.

The mess that MS puts themselves in.

badz1493h ago

LOL the cheerleaders for the ABK acquisition were all cheering for CoD to be on GP day 1 and they were adamant that Jim Ryan was scared because of THAT and was fighting for the survival of the PS brand if CoD is taken away or given day 1 on GP. hahaha...now suddenly MS is unsure if they wanna put CoD on GP day 1??

isn't this false marketing? they said ALL (not some) 1st party xbox games will be released on GP day 1 and CoD is now 1st party starting last year! it's right there still on their website.

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

lawsuit time??

Outside_ofthe_Box3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

@badz149

People were being blind fans. Things is if you look at things objectively and logically since inception, gamepass from a business perspective was never going to be good idea unless you had hundreds of millions subscribed, which Microsoft was never going to get in a timely manner.

People kept pointing out the cons and people kept having their hands over their ears. I wonder how guys like Orchard and Septic who were rooting for the acquisition to go through like people do when their team makes it to the Superbowl are receiving this news lol

ziggyzinfirion36m ago

@badz149

Looks like MS removed the page.

XiNatsuDragnel15h ago

I'm not surprised Microsoft guys are crock nuff said

isarai14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Honestly i think Bethesda needs to buy themselves out of zenimax/MSs hands and do their own thing, i honestly think that would fix a lot of issues and save them from a potential closure.

Zeref14h ago

There's a reason they sold in the first place. And Bethesda is not closing anytime soon lol. As much as I hate the studio closures. They were all small studios 2 of them were mobile studios.

I think these are growing pains and Xbox will get back on track. But they're not getting any more passes.

jwillj2k413h ago(Edited 13h ago)

I’d like to see your reaction to being growing pained out of your job after the launch of a successful product.

Mr_cheese11h ago

Excuses, Excuses, excuses.

If growing pains have been happening for the best part of a decade, they're not growth.

XiNatsuDragnel10h ago

Zeref nii San
I'm sorry but xbox has been rightfully bashed due to constant incompetence

romulus2310h ago

Yet you literally just gave them a pass, being "small studios" or "mobile studios" is irrelevant. There's no excsue for closing Tango, none. They praise the game, they PR talk about it's the kind of game the company needs and yet they shutter the developer, that's foul on every level.

Chevalier4h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Ah Zeref head in the sand like a idiot. Gamepass is a absolute failure like we all told you. Nothing at this point will turn this around. It's not growing pains, the growth is done. Even streaming with 100 million subscribers can't turn a profit and you think Xbox with Gamepass will turn it around? Lol.

It's not a coincidence that Xbox stopped announcing Xbox Gamepass numbers just like they stopped announcing Xbox One hardware numbers and no Series S/X numbers which are behind the Xbox One even.

Remember when we said Xbox customers don't buy games?! Lol. Well this confirmed literally everything we told Xbox fans that said Gamepass was very profitable? Sorry revenues and lack of profit suggest otherwise

Can't wait to see your reaction when their 2nd round of closures happens. Perfect Dark studio and Ninja Theory will next.

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Tacoboto10h ago

Bethesda greenlit Redfall, launched Fallout 76 in the condition it was in (and the fiasco with the bonus bag), and spent all that time on Starfield finishing it as it was with that same engine. Wolfenstein Youngblood exists because of them too, not Microsoft.

Are you *sure* leaving them alone would actually result in a better outcome, not just a different one?

isarai9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

A lot of this excessive monetization, and GAAS crap started when Zenimax decided to start looking for a buyer. Not a coincidence that there was a sudden shift in prioritizing profits above quality or even coherence at the same time. They wanted big numbers to attract buyers, now that they've been bought, MS wants exactly what they were baited with.

However even under Zenimax they made enough to self publish sometimes, so i would imagine it's not too far fetched that they could pay their way into independence if they REALLY wanted to.

Also even people at Bethesda and Arkane were hoping MS would cancel the game as again, they were forced to make something they didn't want to make.

Einhander197214h ago

Ah, we can see how the Microsoft media machine works.

Every article I read now is some kind of attempt to shift the blame off Microsoft and paint them as the victims or convince people that Microsoft mistakes were just some kind unforeseeable unfortunate twist of fate.

The shills are out in full force today.

Christopher14h ago

This is not at all what this article is saying. It's saying that honest and useful studios are getting closed because of big money deals elsewhere and the faults with game pass as a model.

Einhander197214h ago

I understand what the article is about.

It's a deflection, it's a putting the cart before the horse article.

Let me tell you how this problem wouldn't have existed in the first place.

Microsoft not creating a service funded by subsidization and having the foresight to see that it would disrupt consumer spending habit to begin with. Then not buying Bethesda and undertaking costs for a service that was already failing to pay for itself because their own expectations of Game Pass having "billions" of subscribers was unobtainable from the very start.

And if you don't think that was the case go back to the article on the day Game Pass launched and read the comments from people from day one who foresaw that this would be an unsustainable model and would cause people to stop spending in the same way.

Christopher13h ago

***Microsoft not creating a service funded by subsidization and having the foresight to see that it would disrupt consumer spending habit to begin with.***

This article literally supports this opinion. He's not praising Game Pass or the ABK purchase.

Einhander197213h ago(Edited 13h ago)

This is an explanation of why it failed, there is zero blame put onto Microsoft itself.

Yes, it talks about what went wrong, but it doesn't say Microsoft shouldn't have done it. It doesn't say Phil should have foreseen this outcome and stopped before it got to this point.

"convince people that Microsoft mistakes were just some kind unforeseeable unfortunate twist of fate"

Christopher13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

***but you're seeing the impact; all those smaller studios making really interesting games are going to fall away, simply because as good as games like Hi-Fi Rush are, they're never going to make enough money to make up that $70B hole that Xbox now has to dig itself out of.***

If you see that as support or you explicitly just want people to end their argument with "and, in conclusion, Microsoft bad" then that's on you. This article does not support Microsoft's choices and highlights the faults. Nothing it says is good about these choices, even saying that putting CoD on Game Pass would be money losing for them because they've set themselves up for failure (and not putting it on there will drop subscriber numbers like crazy, meaning their Game Pass plans were shit to begin with).

No matter how you look at it, they're saying Microsoft made decisions that hurt the bottom line, force closures, and leave Game Pass in a situation where they lose no matter what they do. It's all negative.

Einhander197213h ago

Christopher, if Microsoft hadn't made Game Pass and bought a bunch of publishers would this article even need to exist?

Christopher13h ago

***Christopher, if Microsoft hadn't made Game Pass and bought a bunch of publishers would this article even need to exist? ***

How is this an argument to anything being discussed? This is just as valuable of an argument as "if fish had stayed in deeper waters, they wouldn't have evolved to tetrapods, adapted to shallow water and then to land, and we wouldn't even exist and have to worry about game pass at all."

You're bringing nothing to this argument and then complaining that other people are highlighting the issues with Game Pass and spending tens of billions on studios because what we should be discussing is what it would be like if Microsoft hadn't done any of that.

Well, they did do it. Now pull up your big boy pants and join in on the discussion of what that has meant for the industry since then and, especially right now, how that is affecting the industry and game studios under Microsoft. None of us are able to go back in time and change what was done.

Einhander197212h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Christopher, this isn't me not understanding what the article is about, it's you not understanding what I am saying.

If you want me to make excuses for Microsoft's bad decisions you're not going to get that or just agree with people who are doing that, it's not going to happen, nor are you going to convert me into thinking xbox "needs to exist".

Ya know what, maybe "Microsoft bad".... maybe their decisions ARE having a negative effect on the industry, and instead of deflecting from their actual actions and making excuses for them we stand up and say "no" "Microsoft is hurting the industry"

And maybe, just maybe, it was so obvious that this was going to be the outcome that even nobodies in comment sections on websites were able to easily predict this outcome, yet Microsoft did it anyway then kept doing and even when it became undeniable that it was having a negative impact on their business and and the industry itself, then they knowingly made even bigger purchases and caused more problems.

And the one thing you're right about is that I can't go back in time, but I CAN speak up and try to keep it from happening again...

Maybe if the people who were speaking up 7 years ago were listened too we wouldn't be having this discussion and Tango and Arkane would still be in business along with all the other people who have lost their jobs due to Microsoft's actions.

Do you like analogies?

What you're saying is like an alcoholic crashing their car then trying to explain it by saying it was caused by everything except the fact that they were dunk because they are an alcoholic and don't want to stop drinking.

Chevalier3h ago

Why the excuses here? Microsoft did one thing no other company can do which is subsidize Xbox with these insane purchases in hopes of suffocating the industry out in hopes to be the last one standing so they can charge whatever they want.

How are you excusing this crap even and putting your head in the sand here? It's pretty clear who is at fault here for the situation they built and put themselves in. It's them trying to push everyone around with cash that no one else can compare.

They knowingly did all that and now are trying to pretend the market is to blame? Lol. That is absolutely rich irony. That you can't see the forest for the trees here too.

TiredGamer12h ago

The article is essentially focusing the blame on MS. GamePass was a hail mary play to change the gaming paradigm and carve out a special niche for themselves, emulating the Netflix model, that might have led to MS becoming the leader in the long-term. Unfortunately, the subscriber growth isn't really there, and the model isn't really built to weather that lack of revenue. MS is now in a restructure mindset to figure out how they balance out their model in a way that can still make them money.

've always believed that GamePass was a high risk shot that had a very low chance of long-term success. But the problem with it, whether it succeeded or not, is that it accelerated the proverbial "race to zero" consumer expectation that ran its course in the mobile gaming industry in the late 2000s. When consumers start thinking that games should be "cheap" (as in through a $10/month all-you-can-eat subscription model), it turns the narrative against games being priced at realistic levels. So with the GamePass failure, they've not only sabotaged their market share, but they've impacted the entire industry and devalued the cost of game development to the average consumer. So now it's harder to develop mega-big budget games and to earn the revenue needed to pay for them.

XiNatsuDragnel10h ago

Again terrible excuses in the 1st place

Christopher11h ago

***If you want me to make excuses for Microsoft's bad decisions you're not going to get that or just agree with people who are doing that, it's not going to happen, nor are you going to convert me into thinking xbox "needs to exist". ***

No one is asking you to make excuses for Microsoft's bad decisions nor is anyone asking you to convert to anything.

***Ya know what, maybe "Microsoft bad".... maybe their decisions ARE having a negative effect on the industry, and instead of deflecting from their actual actions and making excuses for them we stand up and say "no" "Microsoft is hurting the industry" ***

Literally no one here is doing this. They're literally discussing how Microsoft's decisions have hurt the industry. Except you. You're rambling about why people aren't complaining about Microsoft when people are in fact complaining about Microsoft.

*** And the one thing you're right about is that I can't go back in time, but I CAN speak up and try to keep it from happening again... ***

Then perhaps actually add something to the conversation other than calling people shills when people are complaining about the decisions and repercussions of Microsoft's actions.

Tacoboto11h ago

Christopher, you're fighting a block wall here - Ein will continue twisting and contorting any remark to fit his self-created narrative.

Einhander197210h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"Then perhaps actually add something to the conversation other than calling people shills when people are complaining about the decisions and repercussions of Microsoft's actions."

Cristopher, in no way is the author of this article complaining, they are explaining what happened it's literally the title. They never once say that Microsoft shouldn't have bought Zenimax or Activision or that Game Pass was a bad idea to begin with. They think the problem with Game Pass is that it didn't grow fast enough, not that it was a bad idea from the get go.

BTW this is his job title.

"Public Relations and Communications Leader"

What do you think a Public Relations and Communications Leader does to make money?

Edit: I have read a dozen of these articles that just started coming out in the last 24 hours that are trying to shift the conversation away from blaming Microsoft, the shift here and in several other articles is trying to say it just didn't gain subscribers fast enough, not that it was a bad idea to begin with that was doomed to fail or placing the blame on anyone.

It was all just an unforeseeable outcome, no one should be held responsible it was just a billion dollar oopsie that's costing thousands of people their jobs and has caused a downturn in the entire industries sustainability.

Oopsie!

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MrDead13h ago

It's greed. MS has the IP's it wants now it's dumping the studios that it's raided, MS will still make money from Tango's games unlike the people that made them. If anyone follows MS outside of gaming you'll see this is what they do, buy companies take what they want consolidate some of the workforce and shut them down. I don't know why people are acting so surprised when this is Microsoft being Microsoft.

MS is a three trillion dollar company, if it enters a market it has no need to compete, they take what they want and with the financial influence it can bypass laws that are meant to protect the consumer and the workforce. Just look at how they are cornering the AI market right now with buyups and investments.

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Game Developers Have Begun Confirming Nintendo Switch 2 Support

Game developers have already started to confirm that they will support the Nintendo Switch 2 with their future titles.

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