Xbox 720: 343 Industries Working On 'Next Gen Halo Graphics'

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Shaman4259d ago

Bungie Halos didn't look very impressive, Halo 4 does.

TheRealSpy4259d ago

Halo Reach looks pretty damn good.

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skyward4259d ago

Reach looks nice, but Halo 4 at 720p is immense!

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Crazyglues4259d ago

OMG! I would love to be a fly on the wall, just to see what that is looking like...

I mean this halo is looking amazing, so I can only imagine what X720 Halo is looking like... with all this developers saying nex gen could hit Avatar the movie graphics level, which is just crazy - but Wow

can you just picture what that Halo would look like, A Halo with Avatar Graphics -that would be so sick-

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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4259d ago (Edited 4259d ago )

@Shaman

After s http://www.youtube.com/watc... this

halo is not impressive.

Killzone 3 still best console shooter.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I know disagrees.
I am only talking about graphics here.

Halo now looks like a current gen AAA game that is why halo fans are impressed.

As far as ps4 goes it might have better graphics since sony has some very impressive developers & programmers who squeeze out all the power & MS is more of a third party type of company for the most part. Ps4 only needs to be on par with 720 to look better in that case.

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TheRealSpy4259d ago (Edited 4259d ago )

Like Crysis 3 will look 1/2 that good on console. lol.

Also, i don't find Killzone to be a visually impressive franchise at all. I think a lot of people just see what they want to see. Which is aided by Killzone's dramatically limited color palette.

I get so tired of hearing some Sonyheads spout on about how great they think their system and their developers are, and speculating about how PS4 will be the ultimate console because blah blah. It's not getting old...it's been old for years. And you don't get any added credibility just because you outnumber the rest of us gamers on n4g 10 to 1.

A Libertarian at the DNC isn't any less right just because he's surrounded by liberals.

Or lets put it another way. Get 4 cups of water. Fill one with ice cold water, one with room-temp water, and the last 2 with very hot water. Put one hand in the ice cold and one in the room-temp and leave them there for a few minutes. then move them both to the cups with hot water. the hand that was in the warm water won't feel the change in temperate nearly as much as the hand that was in the ice cold water.

in this analogy the PS2 is the ice cold water, the Xbox is the room-temp water, and the ps3 and 360 are the very hot water. Get it?

that change was more drastic, so you notice it more. Bungie's mistake was making Halo 2 look TOO good.

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torchic4259d ago

@shutupandtakemymoney

cmon bro you didn't have to derail the comments like that, no need to bring up Killzone here :/

@therealspy

you're either blind or delusional if you really think Killzone 3 was not visually impressive.

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Pushagree4259d ago

If Halo 3 was next gen, but looked just like halo 2, which was last gen, doesnt that mean that next gen halo will also look like halo 3, which was next gen but looked like last gen?

I'm confused.

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Lvl_up_gamer4259d ago

If we are strictly talking about graphics, then I believe Bungie's Halo looked great...not brilliant but great. Reach is the best looking Halo thus far and it looks great. You have to remember we are not talking about art style here which is where a lot of people get "graphics" and "art style" mixed up.

Killzone 2 and 3 looked brilliant. Plain and simple. The colour pallet was that of a war torn world constructed of metal and rust. Simple as that. So what do you expect. Halo "generally" takes place on a Halo that has not EVER seen war...thus...it's going to have lush environments full of colour. Only makes sense.

However, as a side note, Halo is by far more open and vast. Killzone is extremely linear where most of the gameplay is through tight corridors and hallways. More resources are used to give Halo the vehicles and open world where as Killzone can utilize resources for other less complex gameplay resulting in an overall better "looking" game...not so much "graphically".

It's a pick your poison scenario. Gameplay or Graphics....

I prefer Gameplay. But that is just me.

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ado9084259d ago

Lvl_up_gamer

Who's to say that killzone doesn't have as good of a gameplay as Halo? honestly preferences is opinionated and I wish some of you people stop spouting that a game has better gameplay just because of your preferences and spout it out as a fact. I found Killzone 2 to be one of the best FPS game this generation. They set the bar with killzone 2 but killed it with killzone 3. And if anything Killzone and Halo are nothing alike aside from the fact they're both FPS's so idk why you people must bring an exclusive game of an opposing console to an article that has nothing to do with it.

Graphically Killzone 2-3 are superior than any Halo game out and Halo 4. There is seriously no denying this and if you are then you must be delusional or something is wrong with you. As a gameplay perspective point of view I prefer Halo more because of it's multiplayer but from the story I dislike both. The campaign in killzone 2 is incredible but Killzone 3 made no sense and was just dumb. In my opinion I never cared for Halo's campaign and never cared for any characters Master chief, Miranda, cortana ECT... But it's the games multiplayer and forge that outshine most FPS's.

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Lvl_up_gamer4258d ago (Edited 4258d ago )

@ ado908

"Who's to say that killzone doesn't have as good of a gameplay as Halo?"

About roughly 22 MILLION people. That is approx the difference in sales between the 2 franchises this gen.

I won't even bother with average meta scores from the industry.

If Killzone had great gameplay, people would not only have bought Killzone 2 but also Killzone 3.

Killzone is in the highest selling and most popular genre of this generation. What possible reason for low sales could there be if the franchise is on par with Halo on a gameplay standpoint? What are the excuses...

Marketing? - Overplayed excuse, yet I saw tons of KZ2 and KZ3 commercials let alone what was on the internet and word of mouth.

Competition? - Halo has the same competition as Killzone yet it still sells between 8-12 million.

Sony has more 1st party games to choose from? - Redundant argument, KZ is in the highest selling and most popular genre this gen. If people wanted LBP2 over KZ2, then that is simply because consumers didn't feel that KZ was worth their money and chose to go with a different 1st party IP.

Maybe to YOU KZ stands above the rest, but you are in a very very very small group of people that believe that. I am not saying your opinion is wrong, I am saying your opinion is not shared by the masses.

There really isn't any excuse other than the franchise is just not appealing as other titles that share the same genre.

It's VERY well known that many many people were turned off of KZ2 because of it's "heavy gun" feel input when shooting. Killzone 3 is also well known for stripping away some of the more popular muliplayer features that were in KZ2.

Lack of co-op. Limited game modes etc. I am not going to bash Killzone, it is what it is and I enjoyed KZ2 very much, however in your quick defensive ways to come to the aid of Killzone, you seem to ignore what makes Halo the franchise it is to sell approx 27 million copies this gen.

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HappyTrigger4258d ago (Edited 4258d ago )

Why are people even comparing Halo and Killzone? Yeah sure they are in the same genre, but they have completely different gameplay mechanics and technical direction. Halo has always been known to render HUGE open spaces with lots of AI & vehicles.

The first level of Halo: Reach (Winter Contingency) is a prime example of open-world sandbox gameplay (You can actually choose your path and you can end the first part of the level in two different places). Couple that with 4 player split-screen AND online co-op. FORGE WORLD itself was a BIG technical undertaking for the Halo franchise. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Killzone on the other hand relies on a more linear path where players are usually fighting in a small space. Killzone 2-3 do look absolutely beautiful, but shares nothing in common with Halo other than being in the same genre.

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srcBFMVBMTH4258d ago (Edited 4258d ago )

@Lvl_up_gamer

Lol @ using sales to justify quality. Guess the Gran Turismo franchise absolutely curb stomps Halo considering it sold almost 20 million more units than the entire Halo franchise. And it's not even shooter. lol

"Marketing? - Overplayed excuse, yet I saw tons of KZ2 and KZ3 commercials let alone what was on the internet and word of mouth."

If you honestly think Killzone had even a FRACTION of Halo's marketing. Then that it just retarded.

"Competition? - Halo has the same competition as Killzone yet it still sells between 8-12 million."

and

"Sony has more 1st party games to choose from? - Redundant argument, KZ is in the highest selling and most popular genre this gen. If people wanted LBP2 over KZ2, then that is simply because consumers didn't feel that KZ was worth their money and chose to go with a different 1st party IP."

More like competition between it's own exclusives. I mean what games in 2009 did Halo 3 Odst have to compete against that were exclusive to 360. Forza 3 and Halo Wars? Wow, pretty obvious which game 360 owners would pick.

Now compare that to which Killzone 2 had to compete with in 2009. Uncharted 2, Infamous, Demon's Souls, and Ratchet & Clank: A Crack In Time.

You got a 60+ million user base (That mostly consists of shooter fans) choosing between 3 games. One a shooter, one a racer, and one a RTS. Compared to a 60+ million user base choosing between 5 games.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out which between the 2 shooters will sell more.

Same exact thing with Killzone 3 in 2011. It had to compete with Uncharted 3, Infamous 2, Resistance 3, and LittleBigPlanet 2. Yet Gears of War 3 managed to outsell ALL OF THEM. But if you take a look at how better marketed Gears 3 was and it's competition. Which was basically only Forza 4. It's really no surprise.

I would bet my entire game collection. That if Killzone had the SAME EXACT AMOUNT OF MARKETING as Halo or Gears, and LESS COMPETITION BETWEEN IT'S OWN EXCLUSIVES such as Killzone vs. ONLY Ratchet & Clank, and LittleBigPlanet that year. It would be doing Halo and Gears numbers bro.

And don't even get me started about how crazy Halo 3 was marketed. LMAO.

Anyways, not saying Killzone is better than Halo. I'm aware of Halo's achievements and props to Microsoft for it.

But just the fact that you are trying to downplay marketing and competition, BOTH WHICH GREATLY AFFECT how well a shooter sells (Or any game for that matter) is pretty stupid IMO.

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SixZeroFour4258d ago (Edited 4258d ago )

"More like competition between it's own exclusives. I mean what games in 2009 did Halo 3 Odst have to compete against that were exclusive to 360. Forza 3 and Halo Wars? Wow, pretty obvious which game 360 owners would pick.

Now compare that to which Killzone 2 had to compete with in 2009. Uncharted 2, Infamous, Demon's Souls, and Ratchet & Clank: A Crack In Time.

You got a 60+ million user base (That mostly consists of shooter fans) choosing between 3 games. One a shooter, one a racer, and one a RTS. Compared to a 60+ million user base choosing between 5 games.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out which between the 2 shooters will sell more."

wait, why does one choice of a game depend on the exclusives released on the same year, rather than the games (both multiplat and exclusive) from the same genre?

in 2009, halo wouldnt have been going against forza or halo wars for sales, it would have been going against the latest CoD or whatever fps at that time...an FPS gamer isnt necessarily going to buy a racing game, but will consider buying a different fps game

same goes for killzone, regardless of the fact that there were many exclusives sold around the same time, an fps gamer isnt necessarily going to have to choose from among those choices to make his/her decision, a hardcore gamer would

why is it that you think exclusive games are only in competition with other exclusives? halo is in competition with EVERY 360 FPS game, both multiplat and exclusive, NOT every exlcusive game of every genre...same goes the same with killzone, its in competition with every game in the genre, not every exclusive from every genre

hated to feed this console war, but this part was just illogical

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ado9084258d ago

Lvl_up_gamer

So this what you and the rest of the community resort to. Predicting a games enjoyment based on how much it sells. Super mario kart wii sold more than Halo and Killzone put together does that mean the games gameplay is better? My God the ignorant on this site. Saying sales means good gameplay is just as bad as using metacritic as your source.

Also did I not just say I prefer Halo over Killzone in my past comment? Then why are you trying so hard to pull out numbers to defend it to death? How is it that I'm exactly bashing it?

Also for your marketing and sale argument. HALO is MICROSOFT's ICONIC GAME! How do you expect Killzone to compete sale wise when the Halo gets advertised the way it does. When Halo, gears, and forza are the only major exclusive games being released on the 360 for the past couple of years and are pretty much the only focused series on the 360.

If we're talking about the same genre then it would mean COD is also better than Halo and killzone due to the fact the game sells more.....<--- this is your logic and I'm baffled people actually agree with what you said. I have both the 360 and Ps3 I can speak my mind out on these games because owning both gives me the right. XBL GT: Assassingamer36, and psn: Assassingamer136 check my achievments and trophies and it's funny cuz I own another 360 in my other living room.

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srcBFMVBMTH4258d ago (Edited 4258d ago )

"wait, why does one choice of a game depend on the exclusives released on the same year, rather than the games (both multiplat and exclusive) from the same genre?

in 2009, halo wouldnt have been going against forza or halo wars for sales, it would have been going against the latest CoD or whatever fps at that time...an FPS gamer isnt necessarily going to buy a racing game, but will consider buying a different fps game

same goes for killzone, regardless of the fact that there were many exclusives sold around the same time, an fps gamer isnt necessarily going to have to choose from among those choices to make his/her decision, a hardcore gamer would

why is it that you think exclusive games are only in competition with other exclusives? halo is in competition with EVERY 360 FPS game, both multiplat and exclusive, NOT every exlcusive game of every genre...same goes the same with killzone, its in competition with every game in the genre, not every exclusive from every genre

hated to feed this console war, but this part was just illogical"

They are going against other exclusives, and multiplats as well.

Think of it like this.

A guy is on a budget, and only has enough to buy one exclusive. Either Halo 3 Odst, or Forza 4. Which one will he most likely choose?

I'm not talking about multiplats right now though. If I did, it would be

A guy with only a 360 has to choose between

Halo 3 Odst
Forza 4
Halo Wars
Some Muliplats

Another guy with only a PS3 has to choose between

Killzone 2
Uncharted 2
Infamous
Demon's Souls
Ratchet & Clank: A Crack In Time
Some Multiplats

Like I said, it's obvious between the 2 groups which will sell better. The one with not as much competition with other exclusives and better marketing. Hence why Halo 3 Odst, will sell better than Killzone 2.

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andibandit4258d ago (Edited 4258d ago )

@srcBFMVBMTH

You owe me your game collection, i've played both and will admit KZ looks good, but thats where the comparison ends. In Halo theres often a billion ways to play a map where as in killzone......you are like sheep in a pen...being led to the slaughter and all you do is Ooo'ing and AAaa'ing at how beautiful it looks.

So it isn't hard to choose, want a game where you can gung-ho it on normal difficulty, and on higher difficulties have to plan your attack(what weapons,vehicles, from what side, and who to take out first) OR...do you want to be in the sheep pen being led to your slaughtering

Obviously people choose Halo

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srcBFMVBMTH4258d ago (Edited 4258d ago )

@andibandit

"You owe me your game collection, i've played both and will admit KZ looks good, but thats where the comparison ends."

Nice try kid but not really. lol. Think of it this way, if Microsoft created Killzone the same way Sony did, but marketed it the same as they did Halo. Pushing millions and millions of dollars on it for ad campains that could've been used for ACTUAL VIDEO GAMES. It would be doing Halo numbers. There is no denying it. Call of Duty is crap but it sells well because people are being constantly bombarded with ads. You can't really compare quality from sales either. Lol. If that would be the case. Then like I said, Gran Turismo franchise would curb stomp the Halo franchise, despite it not being a shooter.

"In Halo theres often a billion ways to play a map where as in killzone......you are like sheep in a pen...being led to the slaughter and all you do is Ooo'ing and AAaa'ing at how beautiful it looks. So it isn't hard to choose, want a game where you can gung-ho it on normal difficulty, and on higher difficulties have to plan your attack(what weapons,vehicles, from what side, and who to take out first) OR...do you want to be in the sheep pen being led to your slaughtering"

It's really how you play and enjoy the game really. The gameplay is completely different so you can't really compare them. Killzone has that weighted gun hefty Battlefield feel and Halo has that fast paced twitchy Call of Duty feel. (Yes I've played both). As for graphics and atmosphere. Again, it's what you prefer. If you want dark, gritty, and war torn. Killzone hands down. If you want colorful, fruity, and fun. It's Halo hands down.

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Kurt Russell4258d ago

Everyone seems to be talking about Killzone? Personally I don't give a rats arse about your opinions on Killzone... I came here for Halo 4 so GTFO.

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Kennytaur4258d ago

Halo 2 looked good on the old Xbox. I still remembering being in awe over the shiny textures.

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Getowned4258d ago

Killzone isn't even that great >_< ... there I said it(the original was).. I'm a mostly ps3 and PC gamer but Halo is better in every way. Killzone needs to be retired imo, anyone who dosen't think so is a huge sony fanboy or is really really crazily obsessive over KZ which wouldn't even make it in my top 10 shooters this gen. GG games has talent but they need to move on and make a new IP and work on developing better gameplay. How can you even compare Halo and KZ.

Halo 4 looks great, I hope it turns out well I may have to steal my buddys xbox for a weekend :P (waiting for 720 see no point in buying a 360 this late in the game)

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ALLWRONG4259d ago

"In this generation graphics at the Halo series was not impressive"

Halo 4 is one of the best looking console games to date.

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MightyPatapon4259d ago (Edited 4259d ago )

Yes, Halo 4 is one of the best-looking Xbox 360 games.

But there's certain other console that has an exclusive first-person shooter franchise on it that looks exponentially more beautiful than any Halo 4.

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Studio-YaMi4259d ago

"Halo 4 is one of the best looking console games to date."

uhh..no it's not!

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Walker4259d ago

It has been released? or you are Nostradamus ?

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ado9084258d ago

Ahhh so that's why you have that as your display name

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dogoodmatters4258d ago

Halo games are made with more realistic atmospheres so I can see a GPU update benefiting the game. Not a bad thing either.

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avengers19784258d ago

who in there right mind didn't think Halo would be coming to the nextbox... seriously it will probably be the first game for it, maybe even bundled with it.

spicelicka4258d ago

Wait, did u say technical standpoint? I think halo games are the MOST impressive from a technical standpoint.

If you're talking about just the visual graphics then ok, but technically i haven't seen many FPS games that come close, handling so many enemies and vehicles on screen in large open landscapes.

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solid_si4258d ago

Halo Reach looked 10x better than BF3 on consoles, that game looks nasy. Even COD looked better on my 50inch led samsung 3dtv.

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KRUSSIDULL4258d ago

Graphics isnt just about looks. Also Halo Reach is one if not the most impresive game ever to appear on any console.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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nchizimbi4259d ago

Obviously, game companies have their Research and Development teams working on current and future technologies.

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GearSkiN4259d ago

They may have better graphics but will it have a better art design than halo 4? Guess we'll find out right.

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wane4259d ago

Halo is more about open area not tight corridor scripted gameplay, also

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tehpees34259d ago

I wonder how long it will be before it shows up. I'm guessing 2014.

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marcmjm4258d ago

2013 should be reserved for several more seasons of Spartan Ops content in H4, with 2014 leaving room for Halo 2 Anniversary, and finally Halo 5 in 2015. That gives them 3 more years to work on the next Halo title! It just makes so much sense. I wouldn't mind waiting until then so long as they keep the content going for Halo 4 and release an anniversary edition for Halo 2. Who hasn't asked for that anyways?

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OmniSlashPT4259d ago

Not really news here, since MS announced another Halo trilogy, and Halo 5 will probably be Xbox720 launch title (eventhough it seems to early for it).

But Halo's graphics have never been impressive, atleast this generation, Reach was ok, Halo 4 finally reaches the what Killzone 2 reached 3 years ago.

I want to see something next gen from Naughty Dog, those guys are beasts when it comes to their engines, they kicked everyone's ass this gen.

GearSkiN4259d ago

Nah I bet they'll wait a lil longer for that. Well I hope they do.

Belking4259d ago

Great news. i can't wait to see how master chief looks on the 720. Good times are ahead with next generation xbox hardware.

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bubblebeam4258d ago

I'm just wondering what they will do with cortana. They really "sexed" her up in Halo 4 lol.

Nevertheless, with the new graphical fidelity of a next generation leap, the Master Chiefs armour will change yet again, and the same but pirates will be complaining, rather than being excited about all the new possibilties and features.

Very psyched for Halo 4, at least this time around EVERYONE can agree it looks beautiful (I myself still think the jungle level in Halo 3 looks nice, especially with the lighting they used).

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wane4259d ago (Edited 4259d ago )

Not impressive huh?

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The real Colombian4258d ago

It is very impressive but you can't convince the fanboys. I for one have always been impressed with bungies lighting wich is by far superior to the one in the killzone series. Both have very different art styles and i enjoyed playing both, but halo by far has better gameplay campaign and multi player modes. Wich and at the end of the day shows you that even tho ima a graphics whore gameplay still wins.

bubblebeam4258d ago

Halo has always been picked on for its graphics (at least this gen, Halo 2 was a beast last gen).

Yet people forget that they are rendering HUGE open spaces that dwarf any other shooters environments on console, plus can have more AI on screen than 99% of other shooters, and to boot it has some of the smartest AI, only rivaled by Killzones and FEAR's IMO.

Add to that list 4 player co-op (which is a big technical feat, takes a massive toll on the hardware), better than most console shooters partical effects (possibly the best) and they also have to equate for it distinct and original art style.

Halo could look ten times better (if it sacrificed some of the above mentioned traits), but we gamers put what it gives us higher than graphical fidelity.

Add to that best in class gameplay, and you have the king of shooters (At least IMO), otherwise known as HALO.

Getowned4257d ago (Edited 4257d ago )

Bungie always did a great job, graphics were not the end all be all but they were great, besides no one plays Halo because of its graphics. I Would call Halo the King of FPS MP, but Single Player for shooters is Half Life, Half Life the Supreme Over Lord of Shooters (SP).. (IMO) :P

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ChunkyLover534258d ago

Well the Xbox 720 will launch in 2013, probably have a Halo 5 in 2014. I think we'll see the Halo 2 HD remake in 2013 and Halo 5 in 2014, which would be perfect in my opinion. 343 is looking like they have the Halo franchise well in hand, cant wait to see what they do with the 720's capabilities.

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yourfather4258d ago

Halo 2 HD should release in 2014(10 years of Halo 2),Halo 5 2015

if MS wanna a next-gen Halo for nextbox launch title,Halo Wars 2 should be better choice

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Balcrist4258d ago

343 already said that they wold not be making a halo 2 hd remake...

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bubblebeam4258d ago

They should remake Halo 2. I myself (me me me) and plenty of other gamers would gladly buy it, even if we do have the original already.

People picked on Sony as well for releasing HD ps2 games, but there is a huge market for that, and I have gladly put my money down for the ICO, Jak and Ratchet packs.

It isn't milking if it is quality, so I say bring it on.

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ChunkyLover534258d ago

@Balcrist
343 denied making Halo CE Remake. Turned out they just oversaw it a bit, Saber Interactive did most of the work. They could easily do that once again. I would love a Halo Wars 2, but I wouldn't count out a Halo 2 HD Remake.

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AngelicIceDiamond4258d ago

Why are fanboys coming in here and talking about KZ and how it looks better than halo and what not? That's not the topic in the post at all. You guys have plenty of Sony related news plastered all over this site go to one of them. And stay off the posts with your Sony propaganda.

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what Halo 5 will accomplish graphically as well has gameplay wise.

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brich2334258d ago

Theirs alot of Halo fanboys in here. Halo was never about the graphics. In fact they were dissapointing on xbox 360 up until Halo 4.

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The BS Police4258d ago (Edited 4258d ago )

" Theirs alot of Halo fanboys in here. "

Geez I wonder if that's because this is a Halo related article?

ALLWRONG4258d ago

Damn that was funny

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DARK WITNESS4258d ago

even funnier is the number of Killzone fanboys in here....

Now what are they doing here?

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wane4258d ago

Theirs also a lot of Sony fanboys too

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Redgehammer4258d ago

Well you know darkness always follows the Sun....darkness darkness everybody... :-)

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Balcrist4258d ago

"Disappointing graphics" is a matter of perspective. As an avid Halo player, I've always looked at call of duty and thought that it could be rendered on a ps2... it looks that crapy... to me, Halo 3 looks good, Reach looks great, Halo 4 looks fucking amazing, but to a PC gamer, every console game looks like crap because they can always just buy a better graphics card and boom, blow your socks off....

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Redgehammer4258d ago

Halo is awesome, it could be in minecraft graphics, and it would still be awesome.
343 has Corrinne Yu at the helm of the Halo 4 engine, and just knowing she is involved, fills me with, probably, unreasonable expectations. If Halo 4 looks like it does on the 360, Halo 5, IMO is going to be a potential benchmark for next generation consoles.

Look her up she is worth knowing about.

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OC_MurphysLaw4258d ago

How about we just focus on Halo 4 instead since that is the next Halo game to be released? No point in speculating on "they might be working on something next get". OF COURSE THEY ARE but you won't be playing that next. Halo 4 is the only game worth discussing right now.

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OrKuun4258d ago

(For people saying "Halo's graphics aren't the best"):

There are many games with better graphics than Halo.

But there are none that look as good.

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Laxman4258d ago

Perfectly stated!

I miss the times when everyone didnt just judge games visuals on the Graphics, but atmosphere, art, style, individuality and design all played factors.

Halo is one game that has always had those in spades, more than most other games (especially shooters).

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Gaetano4258d ago

Dear Games "Journos",

"Xbox 720" DOES. NOT. EXIST.

It is "Xbox 360 successor", or "the next Xbox".

Yours sincerely,

Integrity

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ZeroWil4258d ago

Even if other games outshine the Halo series in the graphics department, I still have yet to see a game that even comes close to the variety of modes and features the series has (only talking about consoles here).

Hell, I still think Halo 2 had more modes than most current shooters.

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wane4258d ago (Edited 4258d ago )

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ninjabake4258d ago

Not sure how much better Halo can look. Sure, there's room for improvement in many areas such as textures, character faces and player movement but other than that I was pretty satisfied with Halo ODST and Halo Reach. And Halo 4 looks a lot better than the previous games so honestly I don't expect any monumental leap, but rather an improvement over an already great looking Halo 4q

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Agent_hitman4258d ago

Bunch of Halo kids are in here..

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StreetsofRage4258d ago

Show me a FPS on consoles that has huge maps and still have amazing textures?

Killzone 2? LMAO! Not a chance. Keep your small box levels and blurry textures out of this conversation.

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kingslayer10004258d ago

Milk it

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hennessey864258d ago

The amount of comments about killzone 2, you even mention halo in a killzone artical and it's by by bubbles ha.

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purple1011d 16h ago

ohhh man, the press really did not like those last closures, their having a field day bashing xbox,

anyway, ive got to nip off to the shops now, i've run out of microwave popcorn.

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Jingsing1d ago

Apparently the last 10 years wasn't enough to get the gaming press to notice but as soon as they touch Bethesda it is full on nuclear war. A lot of people in the gaming press seem to have this irrational hard on for Fallout and Skyrim despite the fact they are low quality poor buggy games.
I've grown tiresome of the unbalanced fandom in the gaming press for fantasy games and their ability to just forgive crap so long as it's a fantasy game RPG game all quality concerns are not an issue for them,

anast23h ago

Popcorn has been good lately.

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PapaBop21h ago

Clearly this is just a big conspiracy orchestrated by the popcorn industry, Microsoft are just their puppets, every time they open their mouths, I'm forced to stock up on popcorn.

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TheEroica15h ago

Yep, Microsoft and Sony are a mess. Neither have a compelling business strategy and they're not making bangers anymore.

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anast12h ago

Which Sony games are you talking about?

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PhillyDonJawn12h ago

You enjoying all the bs Sony and MS been doing? Shame on you

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 15h ago

Xbox is getting rightfully roasted here

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Einhander19721d 14h ago

The only point to xbox is and always has been to take market share and money from PlayStation and Nintendo, but mostly PlayStation. It's been the goal since sweaty Steve Balmer said it himself.

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ApocalypseShadow1d 8h ago

Yup. To put Sony out of business because they thought they were a threat to their Windows business.

solideagle19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Genuinely curious: how is Sony (hardware company) threat to Windows (operating system/software company) business?

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isarai1d 12h ago

I mean the motto "xbox, the most optional console ever made" was peaked years ago, people are just now taking a step back from deepthroating Phil to see what we've all been seeing for a long time now.

Ra303012h ago

The current Microsoft Xbox motto is .....We're Microsoft Xbox, and we don't care and it shows!

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P_Bomb1d 11h ago

I’ve still got friends that main on XB. For their sake, I hope it sticks around. They’ve put everything into that ecosystem. It’s all or nothing.

I wonder if we’ll ever get back the level of competition seen during the 360/PS3 era?

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NotoriousWhiz1d ago

Seems like Daddy Microsoft is trying to shut it down. Or at least bring costs under control. On the bright side, it seems likely that acquisitions are going to stop.

Knightofelemia1d 6h ago

Microsoft making mistakes and not sure what to do or how to fix it.

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Sonic18811d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Transitioning to become a third-party publisher in gaming that's the point

ocelot071d ago

These days, I can't really find a point of Xbox. I guess the series S is a cheap entry into gaming?

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zero_jp1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

I’m honestly baffled as to how Phil Spencer is still in charge at Microsoft games. It doesn’t make any sense. Halo Infinite failed under his watch, Starfield under his watch.

I don’t understand how Xbox hasn’t had one AAA smash hit since the 360 generation. Xbox as a brand needs to be killed off. It’s name has become synonymous with failure.

Microsoft with this next generation in 2028 need a whole new name, they also need excellent first party games with significant content available at launch. Most importantly they need someone other than Phil leading the way.

Otherwise unless they plan on going full third party why even bother? PlayStation has literally given them the answers to the test as has Nintendo and they still can’t manage to release quality games in a timely manner.

Chocoburger17h ago

The only reason Philly still has his job is because they can't find anyone to replace him with.

Everyone else at the company is just as incompetent or worse than him.

He's had a full decade to turn things around. Xbox has released more limited edition controllers than Xbox One generation games, they've also shut down more studios in 2024 than actually released games. Enough excuses.

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Barlos1d ago

I've asked this question since the very first one.

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S2Killinit1d ago

The point of xbox is a trojan horse to destroy console gaming.

MrDead23h ago

So MS can buy another industry. They're buying up gaming's biggest IP's for leverage and control, unfortunately it means smaller studios will close... but MS will still make money off the closed studios work

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Charlieboy33321h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Unfortunately for them, buying gaming's biggest IP means jack shit if the games based on them are trash e.g. Halo Infinite. That was THE biggest Xbox IP. I am confident they will water down and ruin the IP they have bought as well.

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zaanan20h ago

Well, the hope would be that they stop trying to make Halo like COD now that they own both. Go third party, drop the console (MS is supposed to be a software company after all), and concentrate on making Halo Halo (go hard into the scifi power fantasy) and COD COD (strip away anything scifi and ground the hell out of it). And while they’re at it, add third-person option to both.

Yes, I am aware of who I am speaking about, I am not an idiot ;) but a man can dream, right?

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anast23h ago

One more time, the point is that they are transitioning to full service provider.

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jwillj2k423h ago

We need a class action lawsuit for these layoffs.

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notachance22h ago

it’s bad enough to the point that the usual xbox fanboys in this site either speak against them or completely silent

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boing122h ago

to expand and plunder

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Rikimaru-0021h ago

o lord. the heat is on. Ninja Theory your game better be really good, cause to me the combat don't look interesting but the graphics look really good. I hope the story is interesting.

ocelot0720h ago

The game can be a 10/10 or 9/10 it won't save them alone unless people actually buy rather than play it via a rental service.

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Rikimaru-0015h ago

That's so true

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Popsicle14h ago

Exactly and going digital only is not going to help.

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Barlos19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

It won't matter. No matter how good it is, it won't sell. HB2 is absolutely not a system seller to begin with, and apart from that, it's on Gamepass day one. People won't buy it, they'll rent it. Especially when you consider it's about 8 hours long, I can't imagine anyone wanting to throw down £50+ on such a short game.

Microsoft are the worst thing that could ever happen to the games industry. I've said it from the very first Xbox.

Ninja Theory is done, just like every studio under Microsoft. The closures or layoffs will come to them all eventually.

Abear2121h ago

They want you to pay them forever and own nothing. They don’t even want to sell you the console anymore, that costs them money to make it and ship it. They’d really prefer if you just subscribe to Gamepass, like sheep being guided to eat the same dinner as everyone else, click on the same ad, and play the same games you’ve been playing for decades.

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sci4me13h ago

God i hate that you cant buy anything anymore. Every app is subscription these days where you could just buy them a few years back. Same with games if thwy could have there way. Will never support this.

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MetroidFREAK2120h ago

Nothing

Terry_B20h ago

Making money.

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MIDGETonSTILTS1720h ago

Xbox was the Western answer to Sony.

They originally launched the Xbox years after the PS2, and at 50% higher retail price. That allowed Xbox to be “night/day” more powerful than the competition. THAT is what Xbox WAS known for.

Xbox charged $5/month for Live, and Sony kept their service free, allowing Live to be a much better online gaming space. THAT is what Xbox WAS known for.

Xbox had fewer games than Sony, but there were different games than Sony offered. Sony offered a wide variety of single player games, but Xbox had social games for adults like Halo and Gears that simply didn’t have a counterpart on the PS2. THAT is what Xbox WAS known for.

Xbox needs to get back to their roots, and those aren’t smaller games for all… that’s Sony and Nintendo.

Xbox’s roots are, and ALWAYS will be: violent co-op and competitive shooters. All of the Game Pass pivoting in the world won’t change that.

We’ve been waiting for 10+ years for Xbox to follow up Gears’ Horde mode.

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Hugodastrevas20h ago

I seem to remember people saying PlayStation was over with all the studio acquisitions by Microsoft... Now look at the state of affairs, closing studios, firing talented dev teams, Startfield being lambasted online. Xbox get your shit together!

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Elda19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Still no sight of the Mayor & cheerleader of XB.

franwex19h ago

They are moving towards being a service.

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Inverno19h ago

That fake Phil Phencer quote about buying up the industry and shutting it down so that SONY has less games to release is starting to look like the whole point of Xbox right now.

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Huey_My_D_Long19h ago

"I thought, yes we can. I said, look, just give us four years, proper finance, give us the chance Mass Effect has, Skyrim has, the games at the time. They're getting four years and a lot of budget. Give us that, and we'll give you something that'll get you your players. Nah, you've had three shots and you've only tripled the money. It's not good enough. Fuck off. That's what I was annoyed about."
This. This right here is absolutely why MS has failed. Probably more so than game pass although its really shit combination together.

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Unknown_Gamer579417h ago

Some of us have been asking that for at least a good decade now.

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dmonee16h ago

I still have the time magazine with Bill Gates on the front holding an Xbox 360. The original Xbox and the early years of the 360 were the best. Then it seemed like the creative minds were clamped down on. After that, it became a Forza, Halo, Gears of War Machine. Above average sequels and nothing but hope for a future that hasn’t come yet….. These recent events are disappointing to say the least…

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Armyofdarkness15h ago

They are really not going to be missed. Just go third party and brag that you are beating Sony on Sonys system. Up until the 4 games people give a shit about is on there that is.

HyperMoused14h ago

They have been working very hard to make Xbox irrelevant

Miacosa13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

To become the premier 3rd Party software producer on all platforms that also makes it's own hardware. It will basically follow the same production flow like the rest of Microsoft's businesses. Microsoft makes Windows, Office and all of its other applications run on in-house Surface PCs - Laptops, however, it's software is also made available to all other manufactures of computers and software vendors alike. If MS can work with Apple to release Office etc. they sure can work with Nintendo and PlayStation to get things out. Microsoft has spent too much on acquisitions to make it all work on a limited subscription count and hardware sell through. Going broad will hopefully help to make things profitable but even that is not a guarantee for success these days.

Asterphoenix12h ago

The buyout of Activision is a double edged sword with COD and they trying to figure out how to recoup the costs. The recession has been a factor as well as management mistakes.

Gamepass has failed to generate the income and they realise they need sales for COD. They put PC release on same date as Xbox which lost incentive people buying an Xbox.

At heart MS hasn't changed they keep opening their mouth everywhere for a long time and it's backfired on them.

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esherwood12h ago

I got one but for the first time since I was a kid I see no reason to buy another one

Ra303012h ago

Finally a Media source with the balls to speak out in very negative terms about Microsoft Xbox. Most Media articles are paid for ads for Microsoft Xbox but not this one. IMO Microsoft Xbox is the absolute worst thing to every happen in gaming and they need to remove themselves from it. Microsoft makes nothing I think Steve Jobs once said and they destroy everything they touch. Anyone think Bethesda is better off having Microsoft as its overlord? How bout Activision they gonna be able to stop the slide in Call of Duty game sales and get back to the 25-30 million units the yearly CoD once sold and if they can't will Microsoft just close them down and move on as if they had nothing at all to do with any failure.....ever!

MEGANE12h ago

So Microsoft just spend almost 80 billion to become Playstation latest addition “Xbox studios”.

Toecutter0011h ago

Xbox was the house that Halo built. It should have been a no brainer to put every resource toward making that game the best it can possibly be because games sell systems...and game passes. As the Halo shine has faded, so too has Xbox