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Microsoft applies for scalable console patent

A recent patent filing suggests that Microsoft's next console is based on the idea that it can be scaled up - or down - over time, leading to speculation that the current notion of a console lifecycle could be replaced with rolling hardware upgrades.

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majiebeast4325d ago

So it would become a pc but with a lot less freedom and functionality.

ArmrdChaos4325d ago (Edited 4325d ago )

Basically a PC without the driver headaches.

creatchee4325d ago

If I wanted to game on a PC, I'd buy a gaming PC. We all know how the Sega 32X turned out.

JBSleek4325d ago

I'm not understanding your comment as this doesn't mean this is a PC.

What I got from the article is multiple CPU and GPU that each will be used for certain purposes of the system. They are giving themselves options.

Anon19744325d ago

I agree with creatchee. The whole point of consoles is so developers and consumers don't have to worry about the hassle of different hardware setups. We already saw confusion this gen when people would buy a 360 Arcade, only to find they couldn't go online or couldn't play certain games, buy DLC without a costly upgrade.

I really think cloud gaming is the answer - although not for some time. Game consoles will become like your cable box breaking the cycle of long, expensive hardware development and risk associated with it. Instead the companies can upgrade through their own servers and systems as technology advances, and simply charge a subscription fee to access their particular network. Then we'll see competition through various network offerings/games available. We're already seeing Microsoft move towards subscription based services, and Sony's experiment with premium content via PSN+ seems to be going well.

Think about it. Piracy, gone. Distribution, not an issue. Packaging, not an issue. Steady revenue streams through predictable subscriptions. Costly hardware cycles, gone. And gamers can switch games like they switch channels, offering more variety than ever before. I know some argue "But I need a physical copy," yet the same thing is never said about watching TV shows, or renting movies, or of music downloads, or digital movie rentals. I'm sure they will still offer physical downloads because there's a market for it, but I don't think that'll stop this evolution.

This isn't going to happen this gen or next, but after that I think all bets are off and I'm looking forward to it.

dcbronco4325d ago

Actually if you look at the whole document it kinda sounds like they may allow OEMs to make their own versions. It kinda sounds like they want to install Xbox directly into other devices. Not just streaming to other devices.

jerethdagryphon4320d ago

ive seen the file its referencing the idea that its streamable and xbox 720 functionality will be 'beamable' to other screens

spec wise its gonna be intersting it liss 4gb and a crapton of arm cores

oh and kinect 2 is going to be majorly involved in it :(

Telepot4325d ago

It has it's ups and downs. You would buy it because it's cheaper than a gaming pc, but then you have to pay for live and some games may need hardware upgrades.

Fyflin4325d ago

This makes sense. Xbox Live is a platform, the current 360 is merely a way to access content. Look at how iPhones/iPads currently work.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see upgraded hardware every couple of years. Not massive overhauls, but bigger HDDs, faster processors, more memory etc. All games will be compatible with all hardware to begin with, but eventually we will see different display settings, as seen in Pcs, to suit whatever hardware you have.

Sounds very much like a PC to me, personally.

kneon4325d ago

I've been saying for a while that there is no reason that the next gen consoles couldn't be PCs. PC components are now cheap enough that you could make a reasonably priced console from PC parts.

Microsoft can sell their XBox branded, living room friendly version or you can run the games on any windows 8 PC.

hellvaguy4325d ago

A console cant nor shouldnt be a gaming PC. I dont want the headache of dealing with viruses, spam, pop-ups, hacks, cheaters, and incompatible hardware.

kneon4324d ago (Edited 4324d ago )

The console version wouldn't have such problem as it would be a fixed set of components. From the users perspective it would still be a console, it's just that the internals use PC components. If hardware upgrades would be allowed it would support only a small set of vendor approved upgrades so incompatibility wouldn't be a problem.

As for viruses that is also easy to resolve, the OS would be locked down and not allow installation of software that isn't authorized by the console vendor.

A console isn't defined by the kind of hardware that goes inside.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk771d 2h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE23h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware73022h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor20h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos19h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor19h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos19h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 21h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k43d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot3d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 21h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k42d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k42d ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody3d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast3d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19793d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead4d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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