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Pachter: Zero Percent Chance Sony Will Show PlayStation 4 At E3 2012

There’s been a lot of Internet buzz of late regarding an MCV story that states that both Sony and Microsoft will show off PlayStation 4 and the next Xbox at E3 2012 this June in Los Angeles. But according to videogame analyst Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities, that’s not going to happen.

sinncross4507d ago

I must admit I do not see it happening.

Personally, I think PS4 announcement at TGS 2012 soonest.

Sony are better off hyping the PSV games to come, and the new PS3 games like Quantic Dreams IP, Gof od War 4, the PS3 Syphon Filter, Title Fight.

RedDead4507d ago

If it's not E3'12, it'll be E3'13. No way a TGS announcement. E3 is just the place to do it.

Unlimax4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

TGS 2012 is become bigger this year .. Unexpected titles will be announced this year and those titles are ... (Parasite eve) The 4rth birthday , ،Kingdom hearts (?) .. and other titles !

Half-Mafia4507d ago

@RedDeadDestroyer Sony didnt wait to E3 to announce the Vita in January 2011.

darthv724507d ago

will likely be more for MS to reveal something. A US company making a big announcement at an expo in the US just makes sense.

Sony could do E3 if MS does CES but if MS does E3 then sony would more than likely do either GDC or TGS.

They wouldnt want to do a reveal at the same expo as MS but they could to steal the show.

SecludedBubbles4507d ago

GamesCom is massive and most of Sony's sales are Europe based, so it could be GamesCom. Although I'm sure they want to get some of the American market back and no better way to do that than showing the new console at E3... Did I just have an argument with myself?

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ABizzel14507d ago

Not even a 0.01% chance

morganfell4507d ago

First of all, relevant persons in the industry such as Mark Rein have clearly indicated we won't see any new console from Sony or MS until near or on 2014. Why announce two years out?

Second, Sony isn't going to overshadow the launch of the Vita with a PS4 announcement.

Third, why should Sony or MS announce when both are still showing growth with their current console. Nintendo well realized they were in for a slide and moved to interdict with the Wii U.

Certain websites that are using hit tactics to gain clicks by stating they have proof positive of new console announcements from Sony or MS in 2012 would do well to remember that they can delete the story from their own website but the proof of their tactics and poor fortune telling skills is out on the internet for an eternity.

To update an old Japanese proverb for the 21st century, "Stories, once posted, are beyond the hooves of even the fleetest of horses."

guitarded774507d ago

(from article)
"But according to videogame analyst Michael Pachter"

So there's a 100% chance that the PS4 will be at E3 2012.

Kevin ButIer4507d ago

Sorry if its a dumb question but... do we really need a next gen this year? Im doing great with the current gen lol

BattleAxe4507d ago

I think MS will show the Xbox 720 at E3, and I'll bet that Sony releases a year later again which I'm ok with. If the PS4 releases in 2014, then I won't be buying one until 2015 after the price has dropped.

HappyGaming4506d ago

wth an analyst is meant to make calculations and get percentages... how could it be 0% unless sony had blown up or something :/

PLASTICA-MAN4506d ago

General truth: Zero Percent Chance Patcher Will Show any sign of mature, obejective and reasonable journalism and authentic news in his entire career.

aquamala4506d ago

If I have to wait til 2014 for new consoles I'm building another gaming pc and put it in the living room

Army_of_Darkness4506d ago

besides, Sony needs to focus on Vita more since it's new and all, otherwise it's not gonna sell as much as they hope.

EVILDEAD3604506d ago

Micrsoft WILL announce at this year's E3, and actually show up at next years E3 with finalized specs, launch games etc.

It is January 2012..the Next box will launch November 2013...do the math that is still almost 2 years from launch at this point and a year and a half AFTER this years E3.

Micrsoft will NOT miss holiday 2013 just to launch for holiday 2014, it literally makes no sense. That would push them to almost 3 years from now. The 360 WILL be almost 10 years and Sony will then have the luxury of launching head to head.

Pachter was dead wrong with Nintendo and dead wrong about the 360. Micrsoft loses no money with an announcement, but it will the rug from Nintendo's feet as there are many people and developers who will take a wait and see approach.

Evil

Ares84HU4506d ago

This confirmed it, they will show the PS4 at E3 this year. Pachter is always wrong about everything he sais.

MrBeatdown4506d ago

I'm pretty sure the next Xbox and PlayStation will be announced at E3. That still puts the launch nearly two years away. It would be idiotic for either MS or Sony to sit back and give Wii U a two year head start and risk another console launching ahead of them in 2013.

Even though Sony should focus on the Vita, a Wii U blowout would steal a lot of attention. MS, who has had pretty lame showings in recent years, will undoubtedly use the next Xbox to try to steal the Wii U's thunder. Whether Sony announces a PS4 or not, Vita will be overshadowed. Sony might as well announce it come out swinging rather than risk playing catch-up.

eraursls844506d ago

@ Kevin Butler, no its not needed (no video game is, they are just a want) but for those of us who have had PS3's for over 6 years it would be welcomed. Not sure if your a late adopter or not but I hear this a lot from people who haven't had a PS3 very long, but there's a reason late adopters wait, and that is price for most. What you have to realize is if you are a late adopter because of price then a PS4 release soon would benefit you since it'll drop to $199 or so by the time your ready to upgrade.

Kevin ButIer4506d ago (Edited 4506d ago )

@eraursls84 thanks for ur reply, im an early adopter, and i would love to see a new gen... who doesnt XD but for some reason i feel that the current gen can survive for at least 2 years more

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Muffins12234507d ago

Sorry but there just not gonna announce it at e3 to soon for sony.And i dont see Microsoft announcing xbox at e3 but i do see it announcing it after the holidays,like a month or two after halo 4 or some gaming event where people announce stuff that's after halo 4 release date.I think Microsoft will announce there xbox maybe almost a year earlier than sony

ilovemyps34506d ago

honestly, without being a fanboy:

while ps3 still have a bit of power, to make games like last of us, maybe god of war 4(which should be at least 2 times better than god of war 3), and a few other great games, xbox, with forza 4, gear 3, halo, and a few more exclusives, people, and studios need to admit that there's little power left. would they be able to make a gear of war 4, that would be better than 3 ? i don't think so.

all exclusive games on xbox have showed the maximum the console can give. even if there's still a little power left, i don't think they can handle 2 years, with that hardware.

i think studios desperately need a new xbox. the same with ps3, even if there's still great games announced, i don't think we will see any other killzone 4, or little big planet 3, or infamous 3, on the ps3. there is little power left, really, guys.

like i said in other posts, ps4 and x720 will be ready well sooner than one can think.

sony won't make the same error again, and release a console 1 year after microsoft.

microsoft won't let sony invade the market one year before them, probably with some kinect-like stuff.

i guess all depends on how wii-u will perform.
in any cases, both sony and microsoft won't announce nothing, until.. the other do it.

since microsoft really needs a new system, i guess they will announce it this year, even before E3, so they can grab all the attention, at E3.

so, whenever someone announces his console, the other will do the same, and will announce 1 or 2 months before.

one thing is sure: at Christmas 2013, ps4 and x720 will be available. for Christmas 2012, that depends who will announce something, this year.

they both have the hardware, they have a lot of experience with both ps3 and xbox, they know how to make a new console, how to make it developer-friendly, and how to make it cheap, for everyone. microsoft have had 6 years to develop the new xbox, and ps3, they have cell factories ready to produce cell processors, which should, normally, be the cpu used on ps4.

hardware costs much less than 6 years ago, and they don't need 5 years in R&D to bring a new console. just make a more powerfull ps3, with more ram, a good graphic card and a better bluray drive. for microsoft, just use hddvds,or some sdhc/xc cards, if you don't want to pay for royalties, on blu-ray. a game on a 64gb sd cards could be a good option.a 32gb sdhc card is quite cheap. in 3 years, you need more space? just use 64 or 128gb sdxc cards, they will be cheap. no dvd, no bluray, no hddvd, sd cards could be an option, for x720.

so, honestly, even if you are going to disagree, i wouldn't be surprised if we were playing uncharted 4 or halo 6, in less than 12 months, on our ps4 or x720.

remember, at e3, when microsoft announced the xbox slim? nobody was expecting that bomb. so yes, our favorite consoles may be here sooner than we all think...

ThichQuangDuck4506d ago

Sony promised 10 years for every console and still comes out with PS2 games. Although I know they said they do not want to be as late this coming generation they will not rush and I am sure would show it at either TGS or be willing to make their own event to show it and focus on showing PS3 games and PS Vita

AlienLion4506d ago

I dont see a need for a PS4 either. Not yet, anyway.

Soplox4503d ago

He was right, SONY just said so

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tiffac0084507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

Pachter making a bold statement that the next PS and Xbox ain't launching anytime soon in 2013! Interesting comments there hmm...

@FatOldMan

Yeah that is usually the case. lol!

Ducky4507d ago

Well, if he said it, then the opposite ends up happening.

HaHa_Ostrich4507d ago

Well, Pachter has better things to do than comment on videogames industry just for the fun of it. Hes a business analyst. Hes been asked a question and he answered it. Its not like hes commenting on games out of his passion. He is not much of a gamer, as far as I know.

BluEx6104506d ago (Edited 4506d ago )

For an analyst who's always wrong, he sure does get lots of hits lol

I think that the next Xbox and PS will be announced this year. Xbox has clearly slowed down, and are now only focusing on Kinect and Xbox 720. Sony did say they won't leave the competition with too much time left alone in the market like they did with PS3. Even though we might not need a new console, it's coming anyways. Wii U looks promising but not truly next gen graphics/power. Xbox and PS4 can wait a year after Wii U launches in Holiday 2012. If they wait longer than one year, I'll be surprised.

With PS3 exclusives like:
The Last Guardian, Twisted Metal, The Last of Us, Sorcery, MLB the Show, Ni No Kuni, Yakuza DS, Starhawk, Sly Cooper TiT, Tales of Graces, Journey, Tales of Xillia, Jak & Daxter, Agent, FF vs XIII, God of War IV, Sony Title Fight, and also multi-plats coming out for PS3 like Mass Effect 3, Max Payne 3, FF XIII-2, FF XIV, GTA V, Resident Evil 6, CoD, Ninja Gaiden, MGR Revengeance, Devil May Cry, Soul Calibur V, Resident Evil ORC, SSX, Silent Hill, XCOM, FarCry 3, Hitman, Ghost Recon, UFC 3, Darkness II, Prototype 2, Ridge Racer, and many others coming, it would seem weird for Sony to announce a new Console when it's hitting such a strong gaming stride late in it's cycle. But if they do announce a new console there's still plenty of reasons for getting a PS3.

Father Murder X4506d ago (Edited 4506d ago )

Dude what planet are you on?? The Xbox 360 hasn't slowed down at all. WTF are you talking about. right now they are are doing better than Nintendo or Sony.

BluEx6104505d ago

@ Father Murder X Please give me some facts about how MS is doing better than Sony and Nintendo right now.... List me some exclusives and some features that they're doing. I'm paying $50 a year and it still has no web browser.... Kinect is doing fine but no support for other exclusives.

Bach4507d ago

Well, duh. Why would they do this anyway? The PS3 is doing well and they need to focus on the Vita now.

steve30x4506d ago (Edited 4506d ago )

Was'nt the PS2 doing well when they announced the PS3? To my knowledge the PS2 was still selling well up to 2010.

Alabaster4507d ago

I wouldn't say 0%. More like 25%, in my opinion.

SuperSaiyan44507d ago

Could this be Patchers FIRST ever correct prediction???

Because many folk seem to also think that Sony and Microsoft will not unveil their new systems this E3 but maybe at next E3.

However as before if Microsoft was to announce new hardware at E3 it will be launched the same year just a few months i.e. E3 in July, new console in Nov/Dec of the same year as they did with the 360.

However Microsoft could end up suprising everyone with a new console announcement, however I dont think Sony will until later on which then they will probably try to release a console with more ram in order to do better than Microsoft.

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Game Studio Closures, Entertainment News, Disney, And More Skewedcast

The full Skewedcast crew back for this episode and Gareth, Justin, Michael, and JoeyZ at Skewed and Reviewed break down the latest entertainment news qith a focus at 40:00 on the Microsoft Studio Closures and how it impacts the game community and what can be done to help offset this negative trend.

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What is the point of Xbox?

Xbox has repeated the same terrible mistakes for over a decade. The reason is simple: its priorities are back-to-front.

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purple10120h ago

ohhh man, the press really did not like those last closures, their having a field day bashing xbox,

anyway, ive got to nip off to the shops now, i've run out of microwave popcorn.

Jingsing4h ago

Apparently the last 10 years wasn't enough to get the gaming press to notice but as soon as they touch Bethesda it is full on nuclear war. A lot of people in the gaming press seem to have this irrational hard on for Fallout and Skyrim despite the fact they are low quality poor buggy games.
I've grown tiresome of the unbalanced fandom in the gaming press for fantasy games and their ability to just forgive crap so long as it's a fantasy game RPG game all quality concerns are not an issue for them,

anast3h ago

Popcorn has been good lately.

PapaBop1h ago

Clearly this is just a big conspiracy orchestrated by the popcorn industry, Microsoft are just their puppets, every time they open their mouths, I'm forced to stock up on popcorn.

XiNatsuDragnel19h ago

Xbox is getting rightfully roasted here

Einhander197218h ago

The only point to xbox is and always has been to take market share and money from PlayStation and Nintendo, but mostly PlayStation. It's been the goal since sweaty Steve Balmer said it himself.

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ApocalypseShadow12h ago

Yup. To put Sony out of business because they thought they were a threat to their Windows business.

isarai16h ago

I mean the motto "xbox, the most optional console ever made" was peaked years ago, people are just now taking a step back from deepthroating Phil to see what we've all been seeing for a long time now.

P_Bomb15h ago

I’ve still got friends that main on XB. For their sake, I hope it sticks around. They’ve put everything into that ecosystem. It’s all or nothing.

I wonder if we’ll ever get back the level of competition seen during the 360/PS3 era?

NotoriousWhiz4h ago

Seems like Daddy Microsoft is trying to shut it down. Or at least bring costs under control. On the bright side, it seems likely that acquisitions are going to stop.

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Xbox, do you even have a plan anymore?

TSA asks what is the future for Xbox.

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Chocoburger20h ago

They clearly never did, hence why they spent so many BILLIONS on other publishers as a last resort.

anast19h ago

They have a plan. It's to move everything toward streaming and mobile. This is just the next step.

Cacabunga18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

With half of the money they spent, they could have been on the very top and the gaming industry would be way bigger than it is.. encourage developers, indies, make them grow trust them and they will deliver.

Tody_za18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

What are you talking about Cacabunga? The Xbox faithful insisted that Microsoft has infinite money, and after Activision they should buy Square Enix and Capcom before Sony does. There was no chance ever that Microsoft would do this. They would use their infinite millions and Bitcoins to invest in 50 new IP and beat everyone.

Tody_za15h ago

Did I really need to add a /s to my comment...

SonyStyled13h ago

The Parent company of Xbox spent billions on publishers, not Xbox

andy8519h ago

To ruin great studios it's looking like

Skuletor18h ago

Sure, a plan to be a more hated game company than EA. Ubisoft were recently giving them a run for their money but I think Xbox have really knocked it out the park with their latest stunt.

neutralgamer199218h ago

Absolutely not, their whole plan is at odd with what MS wants

Phil wants GP to become big
MS wants to sell games and make billions

GP can’t be sustained with AAA games which take 3-5 years and 7 figure budgets. Only go put those games on GP day one. Why do you think games are coming out on other platforms?

People want a change and want Phil gone without realizing if someone new comes along they may want to change everything again so we just keep going in circles. Phil has to realize that and give clear message on the direction of Xbox

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