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What's next for Sony and Microsoft?

aGamingSite writes: 'At 2011's Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3), Nintendo announced their next console, the Wii U, which will be the follow up to the wildly successful Wii. So, what are Microsoft and Sony going to do in response? Will the reveal of the Wii U have hastened their plans for launch, or given them more breathing space?'

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Tanir4562d ago

something that is actually next gen unlike the wii-u which is 5 years too late in the current gen. wtf is going to happen to it when ps4 and 720 come out?

fluffydelusions4562d ago (Edited 4562d ago )

Well it doesn't look like Wii-U will release as scheduled summer 2012 since it was just confirmed that there will be no new info until next e3 so maybe Nintendo delayed until Sony/MS announce there new console. Who knows really Sony/MS may not even announce a new console next e3.

iamnsuperman4562d ago (Edited 4562d ago )

What Microsoft needs to do is get some studios together and some new ips (that are not just for the kinect). It what Sony did after Microsoft bought a lot of third party exclusives to make them either non exclusives/have a small exclusivity window. Also not to have a hardware problem. If another one appears it could damage their next console standing (looking to the future).

Sony need to release something at a lesser price the PS3 was. Also they need to improve some features like the browser (software). People say the PSN isn't great but I think it is ok. Cross game chat (even though I wouldn't use it a lot seem to crave it). Also keep the base PSN free.

gypsygib4562d ago (Edited 4562d ago )

I agree with MS needing to stop waisting the games division budget on trying to convince people that Kinect can also satisfy core gamers. Satisfy core gamers by making core games instead.

As a PS360 owner I also agree that Sony needs to improve PSN and add also, their general OS.

PSN is fine, it's free and works well but it doesn't work quite as well as Live in terms of chatting and parties. Really though, all PS3 needs is private/consistent chat so the mikes don't cut out everytime you change games or during loading and it would be just as good as Live for playing MP games - in terms of lag and connecting it already is.

My real problem with PS3 is that everything in the OS requires so many steps. I sometimes buy multiplats on 360 just for the reason that when an achievement unlocks I can press one button to see what it is, on PS3 it's like 6 steps to see the trophy and get back to the game.

Same with messages, on 360 I press the guide button and there it is, on PS3 is takes like 4 steps to get back to game and everything takes longer to load.

I don't know if Sony is waiting till next gen to overhaul the Playstation OS so they can charge for it or if they're just oblivious to it being a minor pain in the a$$ to do simple things, but it's very inefficient compared to 360s OS.

xPhearR3dx4562d ago (Edited 4562d ago )

People who say they would never use X Game Chat, clearly never experienced it. If you're playing a game like Dark Souls, why wouldn't you want to be able to talk to your friends and discuss strategic moves or help each other out. It's easy to say you'll never use something that you don't have access to.

EDIT: So basically, you don't have any friends? Make some over PSN. I have about 20 real life friends on mine, the other 80 are all people I play games with here and there that I've never met in my life.

iamnsuperman4562d ago

Because I do not talk to my friends about that. Also I tend to speak to my friends in person. There are people out there who do not talk tactics with there friends. A lot of my friends really do not play games. I have one who plays as much as me. The rest only play dancing games on my PS3/ never play. I can see it being quite useful but for me I do not see the need.

maniacmayhem4562d ago (Edited 4562d ago )

cross game/party chat is very useful. there's been many times when i'm playing a different game then my friend(s) and we link up to discuss plans for friday/saturday night.

And there has been times especially for dark souls when i hit up my friends and asked how they got thru a problem.

X game chat is definitely a great feature.

DaTruth4561d ago (Edited 4561d ago )

You're so lucky; you have a friend who plays videogames as much as you! 75% of friends on my friends list are really just people I met in a game who never had another game in common with me again!

In other words, I agree! The only reason why I would want xross game chat is so I don't have to hear other people discussing their lives and other people discussing their lives in Chinese while I'm playing online!

fluffydelusions4562d ago

Problem is MS invested so much into Kinect they will try to get everything they can out of it sadly.

TOO PAWNED4562d ago

Good stuff. Unlike most of other articles "Why I think PS4 will destroy Xbox 720" and other ta.d titles that make you roll your eyes without reading them.

Raven_Nomad4562d ago

Well I think we'll see more on the next Xbox console at E3 next year. Wouldn't be surprised in the least if it launched Holiday season next year.

fluffydelusions4562d ago

Why would they launch a new xbox when they are launching halo 4 for 360 holiday 2012? That wouldn't make much sense.

Pikajew4562d ago

They can do what Nintendo did with Zelda TP and release it on both consoles.

tickticktick4562d ago

LoL fluffydelusions a 360 and 720 launch of Halo 4?

Jappy-k74562d ago

Sony and Microsoft collaborate and make one next-gen console!

fluffydelusions4562d ago

That wouldn't work and we all know that :)

IAmCornHolio4562d ago

Regardless, you will see even fewer exclusvies next gen than you did this gen...

Sony with year after year losses simply cant afford to keep selling AAA games as loss leaders. Microsoft seems to be exiting the exclusvies business, and concentrating on everything else that makes the xbox great.

DaTruth4561d ago (Edited 4561d ago )

"Microsoft seems to be exiting the exclusvies business, and concentrating on everything else that makes the xbox great."

You mean the stuff that also makes every other platform great?(multiplats) Selling something others give away for free? I think they call that, not differentiating yourself from your competition!

Sony bought three developers in the last 2 years. Seems they have no intention of continuing with exclusives!/s

cl19834561d ago

Only because closed minded people wouldn't let it.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7222h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18816h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio6h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga8h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21838h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga6h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus231h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10111h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos11h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-46m ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 7h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken18h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 3h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 3h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 3h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 2h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 2h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 18h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 16h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 13h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 6h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 8h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 4h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 16h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 2h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 1h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 18h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 17h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 14h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 17h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 16h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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