Possible Wii 2 Specs Revealed?

Gamertag Radio writes: "An internal document from Nintendo has surfaced on the Internet highlighting the hardware specs of the new Nintendo “Project Cafe” device otherwise known as the Wii HD or Wii 2."

[Seijoru]

If this is real then holy hell! Blu-ray plus a 4-core 3.2ghz processor? 1.5gb of RAM? .5gb of which is XDR2?

[a_bro]

not 3.2, but 3.5ghz

[ProjectVulcan]

Also Radeon R770 = Radeon 48xx series, @ 766mhz, that basically means a mildly overclocked Radeon 4870 (750mhz stock) most likely.

This type of machine would be approx 4 times as fast as 360 and PS3. It would be enough to knock out better visuals in 1080p resolutions than either existing HD console could do in just 720p. Thing is, it states 16mb eDRAM. That would only actually be enough for a 1280 x 720 framebuffer if that is its intended use. This might be an early indication that the target res of games is 720p, however 1GB of Vram would be more than enough for 1080p.

This is a fairly powerful machine. However expect even more from PS4/360 replacement. Already a Radeon 6870 is twice as fast as a Radeon 4870, and its not even high end.

Saying that, this means this machine will not be excessively expensive to manufacture- its plenty faster than the existing crop, but some way short of bleeding edge tech. It'll never come in at original wii prices, but its possible it might not be all that much more expensive than a PS3.

[Wenis]

Sounds too good to be true unfortunately... although I would love it to be true.

[saladthieves]

This is one hell of an expensive device. I hope that there won't be any problems, especially looking at how small the packaging is.

We don't know for sure whether these are the final specs. Here's for E3 to find out what lies inside this beast!

[TOO PAWNED]

I am not impressed tbh. Bigger leap was needed. Just imagine PS4 and nextbox spec in next 2 years.

Funny thing is that now Nintendo will pay to Sony on every BR disc sold lol

[malamdra]

don't forget that:

-the NES was more powerful than the Master System
-Super NES was more powerful than Mega Drive
-Nintendo 64 was more powerful than PS1 and Saturn
-Gamecube was more powerful than PS2 (not sure about the Xbox)

in 5 out of 6 generations they were the ones with the best hardware, it would be no surprise if this is true

[Too_many_games]

@malamdra The Gamecube was not more powerful then the Xbox

[NatureOfLogic]

If this is true, I will buy.

[sikbeta]

It can be legit, Idk, all that stuff together sounds expensive, also "Media – Custom Bluray" this a N workaround to not pay Blu-Ray royalties to Sony? who knows, better wait for E3...

[ASTAROTH]

At MALAMDRA... arent you too young to be talking about NES and SNES vs Master System and GENESIS?. Go play the games first.

The NES wasnt as powerfull as the MASTER SYSTEM. The power that time was counted in the faster processor, sprite and colors on screen. Also sound. In all of these the Master System excells the NES. The SNES has more colors and better GFX than the GENESIS but a slower processor.

The GAMECUBE had more features in the GFX than the PS2 like better handling in lightning and textures. The XBOX in the other was the most powerfull console of the last gen. XBOX vixuals in some games..(Conker, NGB, Halo 2) can still compete with 360 and PS3 first gen of games.

The Wii in the other hand is a downgrade in graphics from what the GAMECUBE was. Don believe?? Play Residen Evil 4 on Wii vs GC...or Okami Wii vs PS2 version. NINTENDO cheated their fanbase with the Wii and I demand the Wii 2 or whatever they call it, to have better visuals than both the PS3 and 360. I also demand more 3rd party support. Something thats going to make or brake the next gen Wii is the 3rd party support. . . I could see and incredible looking console with only First party games because 3rd party games dont sell as much... want an example?? Go check CAPCOM financials and their desision to downgrade their support to NINTENDOS consoles...

It will be an interesting NEXT gen!!!

[Peaceful_Jelly]

A Radeon 4870 has around 800 unified pipelines (stream processor) and that's crazy powerful for a console!!! Compared to the PS3 with only 24 and the Xbox 48 these consoles are underpowered as hell! http://www.amd.com/us/produ...

With this plus console optimizations we could expect Crysis level of graphics running at 1080p/60fps like if it were nothing. And this is why I don't think these specs are real... They are too good.

[Sarcasm]

1GB of VRAM sounds good to me.

But I say people shouldn't expect too much.

[Active Reload]

This looks rather promising if true and has made my day! That 512mb main RAM, I'm assuming thats used significantly for the OS? If so, then I can see Nintendo brining back a beefed up window lookin format for the interface adding an App store. This system is definitely looking to aim it's sight to the 3rd party core game devs. I'm wondering what Nintendo will deliver in games that will make use of all that power, or will they just let 3rd party devs have fun with it--kinda like what MS does. No matter what, we should be seeing 60fps 1080p graphics with nothing really at all being gimped.

[captain-obvious]

dont think its real

[Computersaysno]

http://www.guru3d.com/artic...

This is how fast a 4870 can be. Maximal settings on Dead space and Fallout 3, good examples because they are both on current consoles and they both run 1280 x 720 @ 30 frames a second.

As you can see, 4870 has no problems running these games @ 2560 x 1600 better than present machines.

2560 x 1600 is 4 and 1/2 times more resolution than 1280 x 720. Still runs better on that GPU. Howzat.

Anything on PS3 and 360 would be able to run 1080/60 on a machine of this spec without problems, and with performance to spare.

I am not sure why peeps think these specs are too good, when the GPU is 3 years old now. A Radeon 4870 is not a fast GPU by 2011 standards, it aint expensive either. A 5770 is teeny bit faster and they costs like £70/$100 at retail money. Much cheaper than that to make obviously

[kneon]

@TOO PAWNED

They have already been paying Sony for DVD. Sony has been part of the patent pool for Bluray, DVD and CD.

Panasonic, Philips and Sony own most of the core IP for all these formats.

[iamnsuperman]

I call bull from what we are shown. Doesn't really look like an official document leaked and the website is kinda random. It is more of a wish list. Everyone wait till E3 or you most probably be disappointed.

[AWBrawler]

Are you smoking crack?
How is Wii a Downgrade?
Name me one Gamecube game that looks as good as Mario Galaxy, Metroid Corruption, Last Story, or even Prince of Persia.

Who the heck would believe that lie?

[AdvanceWarsSgt]

Actually vulcanproject, I would caution your optimism for higher end tech in the PS4/720.

I'm not saying that MS and Sony won't push for the graphical envelope, but don't expect to see the same jump in visuals/performance like we did with the PS2 to PS3 and XBox to 360. I highly doubt that either would want to push a console out for release that they don't make money off of from day 1.

[Theonetheonly]

@vulcanproject
i have a radeon 6970 and trust me it MURDERS my 5750. but it was way cheaper than the gtx580, almost guaranteeing that this cafe machine will be affordable!

can you imagine what this would do to the market if released q3 2012 it would turn it on its head!

[Theonetheonly]

@peaceful jelly :)

the cost of hardware has come down significantly in the last 5 years. so I am pretty sure this is workable. even in the small box it comes in.

everything has moved far beyond the current so something between current consoles and current state of the art can be had for avg console launch price 399-499

[Venoxn4g]

@Too_many_games oh yes, gamecube WAS more powerful that xbox.. just look at gamecube's exclusives.. (multiplats were same as PS2 quality, but exclusives had best graphics..)

just look at: RE4, RE:zero, RE:make, Luigi's mansion, metroid primes, super mario:sunshine, pikmin and others :)

[the_best_player]

@AWBrawler
"Name me one Gamecube game that looks as good as Mario Galaxy"

Resident Evil 0 and 1

[ProjectVulcan]

I think it is likely PS4 and the Next xbox will be quite a lot faster than this, as they are more likely to launch right at the end of 2012, or even later. By the time we get to that point, even 6970 and GTX580 will not be any better than midrange performance. You can be absolutely certain of that.

As i said, a 4870 is only about half as fast as a 6870. It was new way back in mid 2008. 6870 itself is only midrange currently. 4870 level of performance isn't anything spectacular or new or expensive. Its pretty damn cheap now. It was less than 1 billion transistors, which is nothing these days for a GPU.

What it is though is quite a lot faster than what 360/PS3 have now, which is all Nintendo probably care about. 4870 is a fair leap over the current machines. Not massive, but enough that you would notice without even having them side by side to compare. You would know.

I think they could price it for maybe £300/$400 at most, it kinda depends what they might have up their sleeve with the controllers and if they are packed full of tech too then the costs will rise further. Nintendo might decide to take a hit on each machine to get them sold quick, it wouldn't be quite as bad a hit as sony took with PS3 initially.

[Ju]

Could work. If true, this is a quite mighty little machine. Power6 is the logical merge with the Power series and the G3 line CPUs (higher frequency and better power management with the superior architecture of the Power series). I am impressed if IBM can make an embedded version of the Power6. If they do, and put 4 cores in, that is one powerful CPU in a console. i7 level powerful, I suppose. 512MB is enough to execute code, most data will be stored in the VRAM anyway, an 1G is quite nice. I will be even more impressed if they can sell this <$300. SW remains to be seen, I might as well get another Nintendo console next year...

[jeseth]

This does look promising ... can't wait for E3 to see if more comes out. Not holding my breath though, Nintendo doesn't usually have the best hardware.

Plus,

If this is Nintendo's next machine . . . can you imagine what the next Playstation or Xbox will be loaded with!?

Yikes!

[dabri5]

@TOO PAWNED

Sony is a part of the consortium that backs DVDS and thus collects royalties for them as well. MS is already paying royalties for the media being used. Why would it matter if they went BlueRay in the future?
The original XBOX tried to get around this issue by making DVD playback only available if you bought the DVD remote for the system. The money used for selling the remote was used to pay the royalty fee.

[Domer25]

Problem is IF they do use screens in their controllers, this console will be over $350(with these specs).

[ABizzel1]

Definitely a huge improvement over the Wii, and a great boost over the current consoles if true.

At first I wasn't that impressed considering what is available right now, and what I expect from MS and Sony. But to be honest this is perfect for Nintendo, and even better than I initially thought they would do.

Check my previous thoughts here
http://n4g.com/user/blogpos...

That being said their new console isn't going to be a big hit with the casual right off the back for one reason. It's going to be expensive. In 2006 when you were faced with a $500 - $600 PS3, and a $400 - $500 Xbox 360, the Wii's $250 price point was just too good to pass up for casual gamers.

The 3DS cost $250 (I still think it's overpriced), so a console with this much in it has to retail for at least $350 - $400, unless Nintendo takes a loss early on, but Nintendo has the Apple stigma of overcharging for their products (so it's not hitting $250).

People complained about how they don't want the Wii 2/Cafe to be a slightly more powerful 360/PS3, but these specs. aren't just slightly more powerful this is a step up over what we're currently playing. Now I'm sure the Xbox 720 and PS4 will be leaps above this gen, but the Wii 2 is here NOW, while they're 1 - 3 years off.

Nintendo is in a prime position to stick it to MS and Sony, because now they have a console that can run the same 3rd party games that the PS3 and 360 have (up until they get dropped once the PS4 and 720 launch), as well as their exclusives to establish a broad library of games something Nintendo has never had (be honest they lack great FPS, great TPS, great Action-Adventure, great Racing games) they may have 1 or 2, but nothing compared to the competition. And the big kicker is that you can get all of this for slightly more than a PS3. Nintendo is in a good spot, regardless of what the analysis or other theorist say.

I'm happy for them, because the Wii left a bitter taste in my mouth. This is the one time I believe that 3rd parties will actually support Nintendo even if it's just until the PS4/720 launch.

[AWBrawler]

RE 0 and 1 are different art styles than Galaxy, a more fair representation would be RE Darkside Chronicles vs RE 0 and 1.

Also CoD reflex on Wii is better looking than those two

[sdtarm]

I dont think nintendo is gonna enter to the market with something so powerful and therefore expensive,

also didnt ninty say that they wouldnt include HDD yet? or something like that

[Shaman]

Actually,quad core for console(size matters ;) ) is not so expensive as it was 5 years ago.1.5 gig of ram is also cheap and 48xx cards are nothing to brag about in todays PC world.You got to understand that 360 and PS3,when they came out,had everything top of the class except memory so this really shouldn't go above 400$.

[TheDivine]

Nintendo has acually always had the more powerful console until this gen when they went cheap w gimmicks. Anyone who says nin goes cheap or doesnt do power must have started gaming this gen, the n64 was twice as powerful as the playstation and gamecube was more powerful than ps2 but the least powerful console last gen sold the most, the ps2 so nintendo did that and guess what, sold the most for the most money. Now nintendo is in the best position to get all the support for the new gen and steal ms and sonys thunder.

[damnyouretall]

nintendo is going to have to do something with their next console. cause what would be the point in bringing something out as powerful as a ps3 this late in the game. that would be really stupid. these specs makes sense cause they arent really mind blowing.

[BLACKBOIJONES]

If this is real the PS4 will b 1,000 times more powerful than this!!!

[SSKILLZ]

True that, and with a new power full cell omg can't even imagin how badass naughtydogs uncharted for the ps4 might look.

[death2smoochie]

are you for real? LOL

[Shackdaddy836]

They will be the best for two years . Then it will be time for ninty to release another console (If Sony and Microsoft wait three years like they said so).

Honestly the fact that Microsoft and Sony are waiting so long is really giving a big advantage to Nintendo. They both should still do very well for themselves but still....

[LOGICWINS]

What does PS4 have to do with this??

[Green_Ranger]

If the ps4 is 1,000 times more powerful than this...then expect a price tag 1,000 times more powerful as well lol

[Shackdaddy836]

@Green Oh so they told you the specs?

[Shok]

Sony basically said that they're not going to make a powerful system like the PS3 next time around, actually.

[IRetrouk]

no what they said was that they wouldnt spend as much money developing the next console, hello the r and d is already done, they have cell and blu ray all they have to do is beef everything up, its going to be a lot cheaper for sony to make the ps4 a powerhouse than it was for them to make the ps3.

[Takoulya]

Firstly, Blackboijones, stop making idiotic statements like that.

Secondly, Shok, they didn't directly say that. They said that they wouldn't give the competition an advantage in terms of release time and price point. Not completely meaning a really low-powered system. Both the 360 and PS3 are fairly close in terms of hardware with a large initial difference of price and time of release.

[Mr_cheese]

The PS4 will be a new power beast, but heck if this is true for the Wii let it shine, when the other systems release we can gloat then. I like the standard it will be setting, very nice.

[Computersaysno]

Well lets just say PS4 uses the best Nvidia single chip right now, GTX580, tis bout 3 times faster than an R770.

'Cept that GTX580 will be replaced in six months with a much more powerful chip on a 28nm process. Roughly twice as fast again. If PS4 would use that, then it would be quite a lot quicker than this yeah. 5 times at least i would say.

[steve30x]

@ BLACKBOIJONES : What are you smoking? 1,000 time more powerful LMAO. Theres no tech created yet that is 1,000 times more powerful. Maybe 25 - 50% more powerful , but not even minutely close to 1,000 times more powerful.

[metsgaming]

lets assume this is real, imagine how powerful the PS4 and new xbox will be !!!!

[amilio]

I agree buh xbox360 has a good while again. PS3 on the other hand, there wrking on a new console already. i just bought my PS3 :(

[Mr_cheese]

@amilio,

You seriously don't think they're developing a new xbox at the moment?

[Consoldtobots]

yeah but microsoft has a huge storage format problem. They're not willing to swallow their pride and include a bluray drive in their console so I don't see how they are going to compete.

[theonlylolking]

CPU – Custom IBM Power 6 Chip (Codename Fox), Quad Core 3.5Ghz

Graphics – Custom AMD RV770 (Codename Wolf) 766Mhz

RAM – 512MB XDR2 DRAM (Main), 1024 GDDR5 VRAM (Video), 16MB eDRAM

Storage – 2.5″ 250/320GB SATA & Expandable storage via SD/SDHC card up to 64GB

Media – Custom Bluray & compatible with Nintendo GameCube Game Discs & Wii Disc

Display – Composite – 480i, S-Video – 480i, Component – 480/720/1080, HDMI – 480/720/1080

If these specs are REAL then this is what I think needs to be changed.

RAM
I think they are going to need double or triple the amount of RAM these leaked specs have, but then again it is nintendo.

Media Disc
Why would they have gamecube games compatible? I have not seen any new gamecube games being made or being able to be bought in stores. There is hardly any used gamecube games in gamestop so why would nintendo have that backwards compatibility?

Display
I wish nintendo, M$ and Sony will stop support for 480i and 480p. It is so outdated and if they keep supporting it then some gamers will not feel the need to switch to HD(same goes for cable tv providers).

Storage
I think that is a pretty good amount of space but if they are going to start focusing on DLC, arcade games, and downloadable retail games then it will need to be upgradeable for more space

@GodofSackboy
I do ntot want a dictator I am suggesting that peoples lack of upgrading is not good for technology. In japan people buy new tech a whole lot which is why they have some of the best tech in the world.

Treue, some people do want to play some gamecube games but they probably already have a gamecube so why not play it on that or a wii?

[GodofSackboy]

"then some gamers will not feel the need to switch to HD" - lol? You want some kind of dictator society where people are forced to use HD even if they dont want to? You want less choice? WTF

"Why would they have gamecube games compatible" - Y'know, some people, like, already have Gamecube games that they might want to play etc...

[Shadow Flare]

i literally just bought a used gamecube game 2 days ago. You may not want gamecube B/C but some people would like it

[Seedhouse]

480i/ 480p support would be for backwards compatibility of Wii games, surely?

As for your comments re: GameCube compatibility, I very much enjoy playing through my collection - sure, it's not necessary, but there's still plenty of 'hardcore' out there that'd want backwards compatibility to carry across.

[Shaman]

Why would they shoot for mere 16 megs of eDRAM?Thats odd...thats just enough for 2xMSAA on 720p or 1080p without any MSAA.Maybe some kind of post process AA(FXAA,MLAA etc.?) that doesn't require memory.

[Masta_fro]

@theonlylolking

Thats 512mb ram, PLUS 1gb VRAM...

Thats pretty good actually, considering xbox 360 has 512mb shared RAM...

[Rettom]

Not everybody has an HDTV... you should know that.

[Rettom]

Not everyone has an HDTV... you should know that.

[ChickeyCantor]

" I wish nintendo, M$ and Sony will stop support for 480i and 480p. It is so outdated and if they keep supporting it then some gamers will not feel the need to switch to HD(same goes for cable tv providers). "

Cause you know, its Wii compatible.
480i/p is a resolution not a freaking system on its own.

[goaliegonzalez28]

is it me or does the picture look like a router

[showtimefolks]

which also does something new.

but this just sounds too good to be true. also how much would this cost?

i paid 600 for ps3 and i am willing to pay that much for wii 2 but if these specs are anything to go by it might be even more expensive

and that's where i stand nintendo will never release a console that will cost 500 or above NEVER

also whatever console nintendo brings out please give us the option to play all the major IP's either with a standard controller or motion just don't pick one for us

[Horny]

You do know the year is 2011. This system has good specs but its nothing amazing by todays standards. They are probably shooting for something between 300-400$. By the time this system comes out it will already be outdated and by the time the ps4 and new x box arrive this will be at least 100-200$ cheaper.

[dabri5]

I expect the console to be no more than $299. People tend to forget that up until this gen, hardware has ALWAYS sold for a loss. Companies made the money back from software sales. Kind of like how printer companies lose money on printers but make it up with over priced ink.

[sourav93]

It sounds too good to be true. However, if it is true, then it's gonna be my first ninty console since the Gamecube.

[dabri5]

so....you skipped a gen? Just one? I see....

[Peaceful_Jelly]

I always been a Nintendo fan but they forced me to skip the Wii. That console is lame as hell, I don't even like 98% of the games in it and I hate the poor specs even more. Wii games look hardly any better than PS2, a 10 years old console....

[HolyOrangeCows]

Nintendo knows better than to make a console that much more expensive than the competition.

And even if they do, it's not like Nintendo will support the sort of games that gamers who care about the amount of power of the console, will even care about. They do everything in their power to keep from being associated from violence or anything else not kid friendly.

And none of this "BUT they'll still support the Wii" crap. Either they drop the Wii like a brick or they continue Wii support and make themselves look bad as the Wii outsells the cafe soon after the hype-charged release. Not even an infinite amount of marketing will get casual gamers/grannies to spend the money that these fake specs would require.

[ConstipatedGorilla]

If this is real, I'm preordering as soon as we're able.

[Persistantthug]

It looks like the Wii2/Cafe is mimicking the PS3 design--upgraded of course--as close as possible.

Lets see,
--a higher FLOPS (Graphics Processing) calculating CPU than is typical for General CPU's

--XDR (XDR2 in this case) ram for SUPER fast memory access.

--BLURAY for the best media disk format possible.

--HARDDRIVES in every unit.

Looking pretty good.

[Ju]

Yeah, it screams Sony all over the place (sans SPUs). A PS4 with those specs would be quite impressive, too. Sony better step it up to beat this (price considered).

[gypsygib]

I want Battlefield 3 on this thing.

[Kon_Artist]

sounds $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[JsonHenry]

Only 1.5gigs of RAM?! COME ON! Would one console manufacturer ever come through and stop choking the devs of these games and give them somewhere close to current tech capacity standards? I don't see why any new system should have less than 3gigs. You'd see game devs jumping for joy if they would do that. Even if they put in old 667/800mhz it would be better than 1.5gigs of a faster RAM.

[a_bro]

sounds very powerful. Im looking foward to nintendo's E3. and of course Sony's E3 as well.

[InstantKarma]

good article.

[BlmThug]

Fake Specs. It Would Cost A Lot For This And Nintendo Dont Do That. Expect Specs Midway Xbox 360 And PS3

[zeal0us]

I thought the same thing dude, go back and look all their retro consoles and compared them to sega consoles. They were way more powerful than sega stuff back in the day. They didn't start switching the low-end spec game until gamecube days.

[jizzyjones]

Would it really cost that much tho? its 2011 not 2006, I know they generally use OLD hardware in favour of profit ect but 512mb RAM isn't alot, 2.5' hardrives are dirt cheap, blu ray drives are too. An this thing is supposedly going to be announced in around a weeks time, im not ruling it out just yet.

[Shackdaddy836]

It wouldn't cost as much as people are thinking...

Another year from now when it releases it will be an alright price. Still expensive but definitely affordable.

[Shok]

Exactly. And this console is releasing in 2012, so the cost to manufacture this would be even more less expensive by then.

[ChickeyCantor]

3DS is 250.
Reggie said that their launch target audience is a different one compared to the Wii.

[jizzyjones]

If this is real....my word its a beast, an also will make a nice hub for cooking bacon.

[SNEEKZ0NER]

If that's how it's going to look it looks like an mybook external hdd.

[Nes_Daze]

This all seems really contradictory. Why would Nintendo offer such a powerful system, when their best bet is too offer a slightly more powerful system, with 1st party launch games all over again? do they really think that the userbase they gained with the Wii wants high specs???

[silvacrest]

offering a slightly more powerful system would just mean they are even further behind the the next sony and MS console, they would have the price advantage but the motion control advantage would be gone, which was a MASSIVE plus for the wii

my opinion is, nintendo need a powerful console because there is nothing else they can really add to make standout

[Nes_Daze]

Nintendo has shown that a console doesn't need high quality graphics in order to sell. As for the motion control advantage, they would just have to build more into it. I think with the success of the Wii, they don't need a console that is more powerful than the xbox360, let alone the PS3.

[silvacrest]

nintendo didn't need high quality graphics with the wii because motion controls were a bigger draw then graphics, especially considering the target audience, that advantage is gone now, what else can they add? power

dont forget previous nintendo consoles were actually more powerful then its competitors, it would not be so hard to believe that project cafe could do that too

[BeastlyRig]

Quad Core 3.5Ghz

RAM – 512MB XDR2 DRAM (Main), 1024 GDDR5 VRAM (Video), 16MB eDRAM

they need to just make it at least 1gb XDR2 DRAM ..

It's about time 4 cores should be used!

[meganick]

Agreed. I hope the system ends up having more RAM, but everything else looks good to me.

[Raider69]

Quad Core 3.5Ghz RAM – 512MB XDR2 DRAM (Main), 1024 GDDR5 VRAM (Video), 16MB eDRAM

Thats all nintendo needs to get a machine 3 to 4 times more powerful than the PS3 and 360.An since they will have 2 years of advantage over the next xbox and PS4 they are going to gain a large share of the market again.

[Shaman]

Actually I don't think they will...Its recession(still) and major games in first year,year and half will be ports on Wii 2 and won't give necessary leap forward.When exclusives star to roll,MS and Sony will already be there at the gates,with considerably faster machines,and THAN it will become nightmare for Nintendo(if they don't come up with something that will interest people other than more ram and better gpu).

[Ju]

I think that machine will last quite a while. It'll get Crysis or Uncharted2 level visuals at 1080p with steady 60fps I suppose. How far do you want to push it?

[Armyntt]

ju, sorry man but stop puttin crysis with UC2. UC2 is nice but not that nice. Different levels man.

[Ju]

You're right, actually. Crysis has nothing on UC2. I am talking console versions, of course. And if this will match the ultra high end PC is not up for debate. Doesn't really matter. Consoles will always be more efficient than PCs anyway (shitload of legacy crap there). We'll see.

[Green_Ranger]

Damn, thats almost as powerful as my dragonzord!

[IRetrouk]

screams like a little girl

i love you tommy!!!!!!

[PygmelionHunter]

+1 Internet

[zeal0us]

the ppl make crysis was saying every next gen console need at least 8gb of ram.....yeah they might be a little crazy b/c the price would be extremely high for each next console.

[Optical_Matrix]

Crytek must have been high when they said that. Next gen of consoles will have 2-4GB of RAM maximum. No more than that. Although considering this thing has 4 Cores, Nintendo seem to be bottlenecking themselves with that 512 MB of dedicated RAM. Doesn't seem nearly enough. In the end their games will most likely end up looking like PS3's best looking exclusives just running at higher frame rates and resolutions. No significant graphical upgrade. Who knows. Apart from that memory, the specs are beast.

[Persistantthug]

So that means the ram speed is gonna run in the neighborhood of 8 to 10GHz.

in comparison, the fastest ram you can buy now is DDR3 at 2.2GHz.

Consoles don't need the same ram as computers because the developers actually try optimizing what they have, and come up with far more efficient results.

[ThrazN7]

damn so ign specs were way off

[death2smoochie]

I can't see this being real. I would wait for confirmation from Nintendo themselves.
If in fact these are true specs, then you can bet your ass MS and Sony will move up their time line to release their systems because based on these UNOFFICIAL SPECIFICATIONS, it DESTROYS the Xbox360 and PS3 based on bandwidth alone.
This new Wii would be able to run all games at 1080p above 30fps with a DX10+ capable GPUand use real Anti-Aliasing...Something the PS3 and Xbox360 can never do.
MS and Sony has hinted a 2013-2014 release date for their next systems...
That gives Nintendo 2-3 years all by themselves in the high end game....I can't see MS or Sony letting this happen for that long to be honest....

But if Nintendo releases this console this year, i guess we won't be hearing the whining from people stating how a certain console is so powerful LOL

[Armadilo]

If this is real and Nintendo uses bluray then for every wii HD they sell they will have to pay Sony money

[Raven_Nomad]

Sony already owns a patent on DVD drive components, so it's not really that big a deal.

It's the same with Microsoft owning Skype, I am sure Sony will have to pay to use it.

Same with Drop in drop out co op games, that is patented by MS.

Everything works out.

[Series_IIa]

Why?

It's the BDA who licences and runs the Blu-Ray tech and the BDA is a large consortium NOT just Sony.

[Armyntt]

Series nailed on the head. Sony of course is gonna get some money from BR but so will like 50 other companies.

[Raven_Nomad]

Well Nintendo always kind of did their own thing when it suited them. I am going to say these specs are real. I also think when Microsoft and Sony do release new consoles they will probably only be on par with the Nintendo specs.

I know everyone is thinking Nintendo doesn't normally go for power, but the Gamecube and N64 were both powerful.

Maybe they are looking to reclaim their hardcore title as well as overall sales title.

[IRetrouk]

i honestly think that the next xbox n ps will wipe the floor with this thing, infact you can hold me to it.

@amilio

either way the ps4 and xbox 3 will release after the cafe will they not? so assuming they do it would be silly to think that they would not be more powerfull, and what the hell does smh mean? jeez man

[amilio]

LOL we dont even knw if that the real specs we will only knw when E3 arrives. jeez man. smh

[amilio]

that doesnt say anything. because the gamecube at that gen was the 1st console to release and it was more powerful than both consoles. releasing something doesn't mean its goin to be more powerful. it how u use the tech is what counts. and nintendo knws how to do that. just look at mario galaxy and kirby epic yarn

[jack who]

too good to believe way too good

[Raendom]

Dunno my specs too well, but is that VRAM on a seperate chip to that "RV770" (which I've never heard of)?

[Shok]

I'm not going to decide on anything. E3 is only ONE week away so I think we can all wait and stop speculating for now.

[sayonara89]

60% fake IMO, but if this is true than console destroys PS360. Rumors form most reliable source (french webside that leaked NGP specs + Game Informer and Digital Foundry) ae telling that console is just slighty more powerfull than 360 so... no.

IGN is saying that it's much more powerfull but IGN was also wery wrong about 3DS specs.

[kmanmx]

I'm going to say fake. I can't see an official document using the '@" symbol when describing the CPU clock.

I hope it is real, but i doubt it.

[Shackdaddy836]

That's what everyone uses for clock speed... I've never seen any company use "at" instead of "@" when describing clock speed...

[kmanmx]

Really ? I just took a random sample of Intels website, Apples website, and Alienwares. None of them use the @ sign.

[ChickeyCantor]

Thats because most people don't know how to read the @.

This is meant for Developers

[etowntwo]

ill buy this on day one for sure.

And ms and Sony shouldn't wait too long to release their next gen consoles.
Any hardcore gamer should and probably will be buying it too .... Especially when multiplats start looking way superior on Project Cafe (1080p/60fps/4xAA) compared to ps3/360 ..... and MS and Sony not releasing details as to when their next gen console will release.

[shinrock]

i call BS. when have you ever seen nintendo to use any disk format but there own. NEVER! they will not want to put up the lic fees. if he had left out the blu ray part i might have fell for it.

[LoaMcLoa]

You do realise that Wii uses DVD-discs, right?

[RyuCloudStrife]

I need to see some video games run on this monster

[NYC_Gamer]

i'll only buy this console if.....

1)real facial expressions/body movement on characters
2)sold textures&framerate
3)fully voiced characters
4)real online
5)3rd party support
5)option to use hard drives
6)HD graphics

[Rahim92]

But what's the use of those specs when Nintendo is still gonna continue making casual games ?

I mean think about it... hardcore games usually have realism, graphics, etc. Whats the use of this if we're still gonna continue playing Mario ?

[Kee]

They are pretty impressive specs but yeah, I know what you mean.

No use buying a console just for that one mario or zelda game (with cell-shading) you're gonna enjoy.

[silvacrest]

maybe the multiplats will take advantage of the power

[iamnsuperman]

this is kinda opposite of other leaked specs (8GB hard drive and similar things). I call fake on all. Wait for E3

edit: "custom Blu ray disk" isn't blu ray a trademarked product

[CNXN]

Just give me Super Smash and im happy...

[TABSF]

Well I'm really confused to see why people would think this is expensive.

That GPU is almost 3 years old, its gone from a 55nm to 32nm (if true) which means its cheaper to manufacture.
Everything but the CPU has been around for a few years if not more. I'm calling $300 or less for launch.

Also not sure if anyone else has picked up on this but that Quad Core is hyper-threaded, its 4 Cores 8 Threads.

If the spec of this system is 100% true Microsoft and Sony need to move fast.

* PS3 total system performance 218 Gflop/s
* 360 total system performance 115 Gflop/s
* NPC total system performance 1574 Gflop/s

[theonlylolking]

These peeps see a bunch of numbers and fancy names and instantly think this is expensive.

Whats expensive is this:

motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4 LGA 1155, Intel P67 chipset

Cpu:IntelCorei7-2600K: 3.4 GHz-3.8 GHz, 8 MB Cache

CPU cooler:Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus

GPU: 2 x XFX HD-695A-CNFC: Radeon HD 6950 2 GB, CrossFire

optical drive:Lite-On iHBS212 BD-RE: 12x BD-R, 16x DVD±R, 48x CD-R

RAM:24GB (4GBx6) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module

hard drive:1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD

[Juggalo]

Correction:

The 1155 socket supports Dual Channel memory not Triple :p

[Peaceful_Jelly]

@TABSF but those 1574 Gflop/s are from the GPU. GPU always does more Gflop at a time than a CPU but GPU's are too slow...

What do you think is gonna produce more Gflop/s:

a CPU running at 3.2GHZ per 218 Gflop/s or
a GPU running at 700mhz per 1574 Gflop/s ?

Obviously the CPU will beat the GPU in calculations per second at that speed. That's why we use CPU for calculations and GPU to render visual stuff. If GPU's were as fast as a CPU while still maintaining its ability to render visuals we wouldn't need CPU's anymore. I mean, can you even imagine a chip with 800 stream processors all of them running at 3.2GHZ? That amount of calculations per second would change the way we live. Stuff like the cure of Cancer would be at the tip of our fingers! =p

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@theonlylolking here we are talking about customized specs for consoles not PC. Try to make a PC with a CELL CPU that is even faster than the most powerful current core i7 and ram as fast as XDR2 man. Why do you think current gen consoles games are still comparable to PC games even though the PS3 has a GPU that is just as powerful as an Intel HD integrated card? Why do you think that MACs are comparable to PC in performance even though they only have like half the specs? This is due to 2 things. Customized parts and optimizations, the PC environment is too open for that. A MAC laptop with the same specs as a PC laptop is not only faster but also its battery life can last almost 4 times longer...

[gcolley]

i call shenanigans

[jay2]

Well thats MS holding to companies back yet again with their out date disc format which if they'd played their cards right I'd said about my console of choice (as in all 360's had HDDVD drives in).

[death2smoochie]

We all have to wait and see come E3...
If these specs are true, then it makes the PS3 and Xbox360 cry...
This will have Shader Model 4.0+ support. Tessellation support. FAR GREATER BANDWIDTH just to name a few things off the top of my head. Multiplatform games alone on this console not even considering exclusive games (if developers try) will make the PS3 and Xbox360 versions look like doo doo.
Full 1080p resolutions with real AA+HDR at higher floating point precession.
It's a wait and see game as of now until Nintendo confirms OR denies this

[Thecraft1989]

Not chance XDR2 ram is to expensive compared to other options.

We all know Nintendo like maximum profits on there hardware for example 512mb of xdr2 ram would give them about 2gb DDR3.

Now what confirmed this fake is the two bundles with different HDD's Nintendo would not do this.

[silvacrest]

im gonna mirror what others have said

if these specs are true, MS and sony need to speed up there next gen consoles

[pcz]

i dont know why people are saying its fake because its too powerful...

i think nintendo will have learnt their lesson from wii, they will realise they need a console with longer legs. so what is so surprising if the console is powerful.. or at least more so than one might have first thought.

[Thecraft1989]

It is not its too powerful.

Nintendo like profit from the start. XDR ram Is expensive compared other options. They also said it will easier to port from PC and with XDR ram this will not make it easier.

[turgore]

Ewww RAM is pathetic. 512 Mb ? My laptop has 4Gb LMAO

[RegalPrince]

That 512 MB of XDR Ram is probably around 3x faster than the 4GB of DDR2 your laptop probably has.

Plus this thing has 1GB of DDR5 Video Ram so the system wont have to divide the main RAM unless developers chose to.

[matey]

ur right its basically 512mb of very fast RAM that eclipses DDR2 i agree and 1gb of DDR5 thats like 6/8 gig RAM on a pc

[TABSF]

Guys

XDR is very quick but its only as quick as the bandwidth allows
PS3 XDR, the RAM is limited to 16bit bus no matter the clock speed is going to be impractical.

That GDDR5 could easily be clocked at 4GHz plus has a 256bit interface.

GDDR5 @ 4GHz = 160 GB/s on 256bit bus
XDR @ 3.2GHz = 25.6 GB/s on 16bit bus

Also you come out with comments like "1gb of DDR5 thats like 6/8 gig RAM on a pc"

Do you realise how stupid this sounds!
That is not the way it works.

DDR3 @ 2.2GHz = 52.8GB/s on 128bit bus
GDDR5 @ 4GHz = 160 GB/s on 256bit bus

Both of these could be any amount of RAM.
Now of course GDDR5 is over 3 times more powerful but again the amount of RAM does not affect how powerful it is.

[RegalPrince]

I think we need to see more exclusives and 1st party games from Nintendo before we pop the champagne. Though these specs are pretty sweet and will yield some good results, it won't matter if all were playing is Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and Pokemon.

I'd like to see Nintendo buy up some of these small game devs and put them to work on exclusives for this system. Slapping good hardware in a box with mediocre games and hundreds of sequels isn't enough in my opinion. This is not a bash because I know I will get disagrees. If these specs are true then wonderful. But we need better games.

Nintendo needs a "Naugty Dog" or "Santa Monica" or "Turn 10" type of studio to push out great exclusives that will get people to spend the money.

[AdvanceWarsSgt]

Well, they bought Monolith, so that's a start. And that purchase is already paying dividends seeing as how Xenoblade is a very high-quality RPG, and Disaster: Day of Crisis was an above-average game.

They also now fully own the Fatal Frame series, as well as creating new IPs such as Pandora's Tower and Super Meat Boy, though if those IPs are ever released beyond Japan's borders will remain to be seen.

Everything people seem to keep complaining about Nintendo has addressed; now all we have to do is wait and see if Cafe lives up to the height.

I will say this though: Nintendo would be very wise to buy Renegade Kid as a 1st party developer, not only to bolster their handheld support, but having a very ambitious developer team up with the world's renowned best may produce some very interesting and well-polished un-Nintendo like games in the future.

[Shnazzyone]

Wow, not shabby actually. If they can make it affordable, even better. Wonder if I'll be able to upgrade my own hard drive, it being just a common sata. I could upgrade it to a 1 terabyte for only 70 bucks. Nice to see you can expand with sd as well. Overall, this could be quite an amazing system. Still want to know if there is a digital audio out tho. That would be a first for a nintendo system and the end of a longtime gripe. With specs like that, it would be shocking if it didn't anyway.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

its impressive for sure, and as is would probably create a machine right in that $300-$350 range at launch...but what of the new rumored controller? If that thing is anywhere close to what we have been hearing rumored then this machine is $400 easy at launch if not significantly more.

[boss_killa]

Sounds awesome if true.

I doubt the specs are that good though. I'm guessing they're probably around 50-70% that.

Nintendo's gotten used to making huge profit from selling the Wii I doubt they want to change that. We won't know till E3.

[monkeys]

512xdr2 ram this is sooooooo fake Nintendo is not making a server here. Why so little ram but x2 the video memory? 1gb of ddr3 would be much better. Nintendo will use flash memory it saves on power and cuts down on size.

[dirthurts]

So I would say that's pretty good.
It's in line with what I expected Sony and MS to push out actually. Nothing amazing, but a huge jump from the lackluster specs out there right now on current consoles.
I'm sure the pricing wouldn't be too bad either.

[N4g_null]

Power wise it's close but the specs are fake. You'll see soon enough. Plus any one leaking now is just trying to get fired! E3 is gonna be fun again.

[GodKing1337]

look at that router

[CrimsonEngage]

That made me laugh. It looks just like my Netgear! Have a bubble.

[gypsygib]

I'd be happy with that. Maybe Nintendo is starting to learn that the core market is larger and more loyal to gaming than the casuals. Casuals are the short term investment, they're tastes are fickle and can move on from games at any moment. Whereas the core are here for much longer.

Just look at GH

[jadnice]

Larger not even close to casuals... but I will give you the loyal aspect and willing to invest money into games. But Wii has clearly proven that Casual gamers is larger than hardcore from a global stand point. Bare in mind that these two groups do also intersect.

[Oldman100]

hmmmmm...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[AWBrawler]

hehe know what'll be funny? if somebody comes out with VR. Whoever does VR first is going to rape the others lol. i bet Nintendo be the first to try VR.
Sony and MS seem more focused on graphics than putting the player inside the game world.

[L-64]

watch out for RETRO STUDIOS, i bet u there going to show a game that looks better then uncharted 3.

[CptFlashHeart]

I can't see this being true unfortunately :(

Blu Ray disc support and 8cm GameCube discs? WTF is the point?..

As for all the other high specs, I still doubt Nintendo in hopping on board the insane graphics machine because it's their simplicity, pick up and play, and 'cutesy' colours that draw people in.

Don't get me wrong, if the final spec is near this then I'm creaming, but for now it just seems too good to be true.

I'll wait for e3.

[aia12]

weird i was expecting ps3 fanboys to say that the ps3 will still be more powerful than the wii 2 with those specs if these are the real specs then its not THAT powerful but will completely DESTROYS ps3 and 360 put together

[jacen]

these have to be true, there is no way nintendo is falling short this time on graphics when the hardware is ready avalible for years, they have to up the game and with no new ps3/360 till 2014 they deffo need to reach to the hardcore gamers now, all the aunts and uncles and grannys have there wii's now its time to move on and up the game

[matey]

Its IGN that leaked the triplecore cpu specs when the big rumour was 4 cores at the start before IGN specs so im thinking this is real and its also at least 5/6 times as powerful as ps3

[altimako02]

if this machine is true then im getting it , and ms and sony need to hurry a new console. ant it will probally be about 350 to 450

[MasterCornholio]

Nintendo usually trys to make their consoles at a low price and then sells them for a profit. Which is what they did with the Wii with a price of 250 euros at release. Which is why i find these specs hard to believe. It just seems 2 pricey for a Nintedo console. But then again the 3DS is expensive as heck so i could imagine Nintendo releasing an expensive console. But as i said before i believe its unlikely.

[jadnice]

Clearly you have not been looking at financial sites etc. It already been reported that Nintendo has exceeded any previous records of spending on new technology. Look it up. that alone tell me this is no minor blip of an upgrade.

[MasterCornholio]

Compared to the Wii its a huge upgrade. But to the 360 and PS3 not so much but its still significant. What i am really wondering is if Nintendo is producing this then what will the others release? Which is why i am going to wait and buy the PS4 because i know that it will have the games that i like and it will be more powerful than the Cafe.

[SiegStrife]

Am I the only one who noticed the picture clearly looks like a photoshop?

[Valk]

"Just wait for PS4 please I am beggingh you." Pathetic.. Why should I wait for 2 years for Next gen when I can have it with the new Nintendo console? I'll just bw wating two years for SOny to rip off Nintendo.

Do you think I want to be the fool that was running around talking about how awesome motion controls are two years after the rest of the world like Sony had its fanboys doing this gen?

No thanks, I'll take the innovation as it comes not when the last place console decides to get around to it. Took Sony til 2010 just to enter this gen with Nintendo. Fanboys can wait and be awed, I'll be gaming on a true HD console

[SuperStrokey1123]

Just hope that some good games that are not first party actually come to the wii2 this time...

[Legionaire2005]

Judging by how the spec is I say this is the finally spec of the system. I get this feeling that Nintendo should of release this system years ago to compete with 360/PS3, because these specs will be overshadow by Xbox Next and PS4 specs. I can still see Nintendo struggling with 3rd party support in the next two years after 2012. These spec can't even compete with a High End PC. We all know Cytek(Crysis develop) wants 8 gigs of Ram for Next gen. The best way for Nintendo to solve this problem if they think more like a customizable PC. They need to make the system have the ability to upgrade. If They do this before their competitors next system, then it will turn the tide. Nintendo strikes back.

[subtenko]

Looks like a plain ol block. I hope Sony makes the PS4 look all hightech and even more sexy than the ps3 with like holograms and lightrays :D

and pleasee make it levitate this time!!

[bigjclassic]

Okay time for:
SSB HD
F Zero HD
Starfox HD
Metroid HD
and can we get Eternal Darkness 2??

[jadnice]

I also strongly believe this leak to be on point. Once again with all the money Nintendo has been investing in over the last few years (also been reported by many finanical website). Its been reported that Nintendo has never invested so much before....

[SuperStrokey1123]

Could some one more tech oriented please explain this to me in terms of a comparison to current gen stuff. obviously its faster but by how much? Thanks

[jadnice]

Something tells me this leaked information is spot on. Nintendo is going to shock many when they walk on stage and reveal their next generation.... guys remember not to long ago (last year...) it was reported that Nintendo was investing large sums of money in technology and it was not the new hand hell...

It was also reported that their investment exceeded anything they have spent in the history of the company. Nintendo is planning something huge this E3.

[Half-Mafia]

my current PC is much better then this, i have

i5 3.3 GHz sandy bridge
GPU, AMD HD 6970 - 2GB GDDR5
RAM, DDR3 4GB

yes its more expensive then what the WiiHD will cost but in 5 years from now the WiiHD is going to look like crap.

[jadnice]

anything release today will be crap in 5yrs so what is your point. Thats just how technology is... state of the art to today and old tomorrow. You either love Nintendo franchise games or you dont. Its that simple put please stop the stupidness about "in 5 years from now the WiiHD is going to look like crap".

[Half-Mafia]

them specs r not bleeding edge, the PS3/360 r old as hell. even in 2-3 years when the PS4/720 is out this WiiHD is going to look so old. the WiiHD is going to be stuck with them specs, in 2-5 years i can upgrade my PC, hell even in 6months i could update to better specs.

[rwarner174]

I am more interested in them addressing three issues they currently have. Are they going to address the lack of 3rd party games that don't make you vomit? Are they going to address their declining quality of 1st party games, which quite frankly just aren't what they used to be. Are they going to implement a real online gaming interface like PSN or Xbox live.

If the answer to any of these is no then I am going to have to pass.

[jacksonmichael]

Rumors say yes to the first and third, but no word on the second question yet.

[Valk]

Maybe you should stop pretending and move along.

Can Nintendo control 3rd parties? NO thats just silly. Last time they tried that, they all flocked to Sony and the PS1. Most of the shovelware on Wii people cry about is also on PS2, but you probably never cried about that.

Low rated games? Really? The highest rated exclusive this gen and some of the best exclusives over all this gen is bad in your opinion?DK,Punch Out, Metroid, Zelda were all great this gen imo and it seems to millions of others.

Pretty sure we will bet a better online but i am also sure that no matter what it is it wont be good rnough for you.

[rwarner174]

"Can Nintendo control 3rd parties? NO thats just silly. Last time they tried that, they all flocked to Sony and the PS1. Most of the shovelware on Wii people cry about is also on PS2, but you probably never cried about that."

Dude they flocked to sony and PS1 because nintendo used a 64mb cartage format that was both limited in storage space and severely reduced profit margin. That is a well known fact. As far as the Wii, their default control structure has a lot to do with. Not to mention the shovel ware that is out there that 3rd party has to compete with. What ever happened to the Nintendo "stamp of approval"?

"Low rated games? Really? The highest rated exclusive this gen and some of the best exclusives over all this gen is bad in your opinion?DK,Punch Out, Metroid, Zelda were all great this gen imo and it seems to millions of others."

Metroid is the only game that I would call a top tier game. The rest of them are not system sellers to me.

[jacksonmichael]

"The rest of them are not system sellers to me."

... Does. Not. Compute.

[Muffins1223]

psn isent a real gaming service considering it crashed for a month,failed to give users content like xboxlive had,and dosent really have anything to brag about compared to steam or xbox live ,even steam has a feature thats like fucking party on xbox and almost no one uses a mic for the pc....

[Trroy]

I can tell you right now that a quad-core 3.5 GHz chip is not fault tolerant enough for a small box in the typical livingroom, which is intended to be placed in small spaces, by the Blue Ocean community, who don't understand high-end computers' need to "breathe".

These aren't the specs. The clocks, at the very least, are totally wrong. I would believe that the chip supports "turbo" to 3.5 GHz on one core, and that it normally runs at 3.2 GHz though. I also doubt that Nintendo would choose the "Sony Approach" (split main RAM and VRAM), over the "MS Approach", with regards to memory. I would be much more likely to believe that the Cafe had 768MB to 1GB of unified RAM, than the split amount in the rumor article. The R770 might run too hot at 766 MHz as well, and XDR2 RAM is too expensive for Nintendo to want to go that route -- particularly with so much VRAM, because the high bandwidth of the main RAM would be largely unnecessary with so much VRAM.

There are too many inconsistencies in this rumor. It sounds like it was cooked up by someone who doesn't understand the issues in creating a livingroom computing device that requires as little service as possible, is small enough to be "convenient", and nets Nintendo profit as well. It's almost certainly false. Nintendo isn't going to increase the size of their box by much, so you shouldn't expect a load of fans in there, etc. It may not even have a HDD.

Here's the most damning flaw: The "doc" states that the device supports "1080p" with component video. That's not actually possible.

Its a fake.

[archemides518]

yes it is fake, but you can do 1080p over component, just try it with the ps3, i used to do that before i had an hdmi cable way back.

[Trroy]

1080i, yes, but not 1080p.

[archemides518]

i got an idea, why don't you just TRY IT....i also believed as you do (as that's what a lot of people said online), but was proven wrong when it surprised me when i did the auto-detect (confirmed by both the ps3 display settings AND the display mode information on the tv). i'm not saying it can do hdcp for blu ray, but for games it works. when playing a blu ray on ps3 it will switch into 1080i. i know my stuff when it comes to this

[zero_cool]

Not necessarily true because xdr 2 dram is manufactured by many suppliers so price will vary between suppliers!

[mateo124]

Hope it doesn't look like this, this is ugly as f***

[Emilio_Estevez]

Everyone on NeoGaf(where it was originally posted) is calling a fake.

[MoreRPG]

the question is will Nintendo push the console to the limit???

[Achtung]

Well, they did push the Wii with Metroid Other M and also third parties with games like Silent Hill Shattered Memories and The Conduit whether you like the art style or not. So, yes I think they'll push Project Cafe...

Please Retro Studios: METROID FREAKIN' PRIME 4!!!!! 60FPS, art style that you wouldn't think it was possible on video games...

*cries in a fetal position*

[archemides518]

FAKE!!!!!!!!!!

also does that pic look like a wii disc can FIT IN THAT SLOT????

HELL NO

[llMurcielagoll]

Picture here looks like a white painted Windows 7 DVD package with wires behind it.

[xtremegamerage]

RV770 could be an ati 4830

Sounds true to me.

Would probably be twice as fast as a PS3.

http://www.gpureview.com/sh...

And would do 720p@60fps.

1080p@30fps.

[TBONEJF]

No one doesn't have the real specs on the Wii HD. I would wait till E3 to get the full access and specs on the new system.

[Kos-Mos]

If this is true Nintendo is targeting EVERY gamer out there.

[yamzilla]

sweet, was hoping for a slightly better gpu and a bit more ram, but it will shit all over the ps3 and 360, that's all that matters , then those lazy bastards will push out new hardware, the only thing i use anymore is my pc, my consoles looks so shitty and low res, i am playing dead space 2 with my wife on my ps3 and wish i had just bought it on pc (we rented it because we were not sure if it would be as good as the first), the resolution on all the objects is crap, the jaggies are so distracting it really takes away from the game, ohhh, well, thank goodness the new consoles are on their way!!

bring on the 720 and ps4

i hope the new wii and xbox launch this year

720p is like 10 years old now, hell, 1080p and 1200p has been around for 6

soon 1600p will be the norm for pc, and consoles will be struggleing to maintain 1080p...

consoles are always playing catch-up

they still need dedicated servers and mod support

[Speakersgoinghammer]

I don't know bout you guys but I have only one thing to say. I like turtles! Hip hip hooray!

[zero_cool]

so the gpu is either a custom:

Radeon HD 4730(RV770CE)
Radeon HD 4830(RV770LE)
Radeon HD 4850(RV770PRO)
Radeon HD 4870(RV770XT)

Which ever one it is closes & if these specs are spot on.

[DarthBigE]

if real shit bricks
hopefully it does not cost over $9000

[TheTruth89]

very good hardware, except the CPU...

[Trroy]

A Quad PowerPC with SMT is mighty powerful, if it doesn't have the crippling lack of OOO execution, bad branch prediction, and tiny L2 cache the 360's Xenon has.

[Muffins1223]

some day in the future graphics will get so good,it wont even matter......this generation i wont care for graphics,i mean,these specs mean its around 4 times more powerful than ps3/xbox30.Thats amazing,when it gets to that point i think that looks good enough,i mean what fucking game would use that much power?

[yamzilla]

Muffins1223-"i mean what fucking game would use that much power? "

metro2033 dx11, the witcher 2, crysis 1 with realism mods, honestly, this thing coulnt even run that at high resolutions buy any AAA game from the last 3 years with 8x anti aliasing and a true 1920x1080p native resolution

this is what nintendo needs, i never bought a wii because it was trash to me, trash graphics, trash games, trash controls

if they do this right, they can get their hardcore audience back, not that they care much, nintendo has been printing money with their terrible, casual toys lately