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Microsoft: Xbox 'Default Platform For Gamers'

NowGamer: at TGS Xbox product director Aaron Greenberg has stated his belief that Xbox has become the "default platform for gamers"...

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Gamester1014971d ago

On what basis? I used to find this idiot funny, but now he's just tiresome.

iamnsuperman4971d ago (Edited 4971d ago )

"We're also done our own research. We believe this will be the biggest launch in our history, for Xbox. We will sell more Kinect sensors than we did [systems] at Xbox 360 launch" apparently they have done research and they are not going to go into the kind of research they have done which is suspicious

DEA Fresh4971d ago (Edited 4971d ago )

This guy works for MS. He gets paid very good money to make sure Xbox is successful. He drops a line in an interview and people get so worked up about it. You can read these comments and tell people aren't just trolling. For some reason they really have hate and anger in them for a company/brand that has done nothing to them.

I don't understand defending and or bashing one console with such passion. Do you get mad at your friends who drive different cars, listen to different music, have a different brand microwave? like wtf is the big deal. This is video games, not politics. Just enjoy them.

ChronoJoe4971d ago

People get annoyed/angry, because they believe Microsoft makes their system worse. It's not like with other brands, like a microwave, the more success the 360 sees, the less the competition sees - and in this industry that matters as it directly relates to support for the console they have purchased, and the general welfare of there investment on the platform.

Not that I hold such beliefs though. Just explaining it.

Immortal3214971d ago

then false because, without multiplat games the 360 have nothing new or refreshing. Not only that, its the only console I know, out now, this gen scratches disc.

Besides if those gamers you so called believe that the 360 is the default platform, likes the following games, Halo, Gears, or MW2, then I agree the 360 is the default system for those particular gamers.

Trebius4971d ago

while his ship is sinking.

They need to get with the program, before the program gets THEM!

rawr

ExplosionSauce4970d ago (Edited 4970d ago )

The guy gets paid to say these sort of things.

If I were to take him seriously I'd be like:
"OMG really? I'm a gamer and I didn't even know that the 360 should have been my preferred system,
by default" Lol

But anyways, 360 and PS3 both sell pretty evenly. Each gamer has their own preference.
So there is no "default" for gamers in general. Maybe if we were machines programmed to rely on something by default...but now I'm just blabbering on.
I sleep now -.- k bye

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DelbertGrady4971d ago (Edited 4971d ago )

Asked why Japanese studios were flocking to the Xbox 360, Greenberg added:

"I think we've become the default platform for gamers. And what you see in Japan is that there are a lot of creators who like to make core games, and that's their heritage. If you think about someone like Inafune-san, or Suda 51..."

Kinect is the final piece of the puzzle explained Greenberg.
"They want to build new experiences with Kinect," he said, adding that Microsoft expects big things from the motion control peripheral.

The rage towards MS has escalated recently. I wonder if it has something to do with the success of Halo: Reach or the fact that they announced 5 core games, all by Japanese studios, for Kinect at TGS?

@iamnsuperman - It will take alot for me to pick up Kinect. There are too many non-motion games I'm looking forward to at the moment so I wouldn't have time for it anyways. Halo: Reach will probably be getting more or less all of my focus the coming three months. With a little Fable 3 and NFS Hot Pursuit on the side, if I find time.

iamnsuperman4971d ago (Edited 4971d ago )

Lets not jump the gun just yet when we haven't seen gameplay footage yet for the core games and especially the ones with Kinect being used..... Halo Reach was successful but that is not the reason for the hate.... I am only assuming from what I am feeling and its down to no-one likes a cocky business its intoxicating and the fact the haven't supported their loyal fans....Lets hope these Kinect hardcore games are real games and not on rail games (what we have seen so far from the "harcore" kinect games)

Raikiri4971d ago

I know right?

PS3 fanboys are just the worse they just don't want 360 owners to have games

And they come up with excuses like..
No Buttons = Still Casual

And US is not the world (Although 360 still sells more worldwide)

Kinect has allot of potential and Halo: Reach is set to be the most successful Exclusive game this generation(counting out those other Wii Shovelware crap)they just don't like that fact

bustamove4971d ago (Edited 4971d ago )

360 fanboys also don't like the fact that a) Sony is receiving more first party exclusives for the PS3, b) The PS3 is catching up to the 360 and will most likely surpass it, c) It's no longer a so-called bluray player, c) They're receiving the same dose of medicine they dished out since 2007, and d) The gaming catalog is running thin and Microsoft is running out of things to say.

I could go on and on about this but it is what it is.

fr0sty4971d ago (Edited 4971d ago )

What a cocky ass. The "default" platform for gamers still to this day is the one that the most of them own. Wii (as far as this gen goes). DS as well. PSP even before 360. and saying your platform is "default" when your competitor, who is only 4-5 million units behind you, is getting much better games and by far the most exclusives is foolish. Also at a time where you are releasing consoles incapable of even playing certain parts of your games without an upgrade (forza 3, halo reach), while the competition is showcasing standard hard drives and features you will never fully have such as 3D. when the press has hailed the competitions motion controller as much more accurate and having a much more diverse game library than your own, you can hardly claim to be the "default" platform. and the most laughable aspect of this entire article, this quote comes on the heels of a Japanese game show, in a land where 360's competition is outselling it by no less than 4 to 1.

to quote walther...

"Tiresome and sad.

Xbox 360 - last place in Asia

Xbox 360 - last place in Europe

Xbox 360 - 2nd place in the US "

dosgrtr4971d ago

no one is jealous of the success of 360 or ps3,only if douches like these make such statements then it's annoying,i mean how can 360 be the default platform for gamers considering there are 38 million ps3's and 70 million+ wii's

Boody-Bandit4971d ago (Edited 4971d ago )

Xbox 360 - 1st place in none.

"Greenburg is tiresome."
^Truer words never spoken.

Greenburg, how about instead of talking numbers, hyping, marketing and PR spining what little you (MS) do have to death? You (MS) actually open or purchase studios instead of relying on the same few exclusives (most of which are also on the PC) and marketing multiplatform games as your own?

They spend more money on marketing, DLC and timed exclusives then they do on creating or developing new IP's. Oh wait, do they even create new IP's? What was the last new IP they brought to the table this generation that was exclusive only to the XBox 360? I'm not being a smart ass. I sincerely want to know?

Oh and before anyone cries foul and calls me a fanboy. I game evenly on the PS3 and 360. Right now I am still turning laps on Forza 3. Racing sims are my favorite genre and I spend coin on racing cockpits to play them on. When GT5 is released you guys wont see for weeks other than a quick post or two!

Greenburg needs to simply STFU and go tell the company he works for Halo, Gears, Fable and Forza are not enough to keep your hopes alive in the gaming industry. Stop wasting money on things that don't matter and start spending it on studio support.

Edit: I already remember what exclusive new IP they brought to the table. Alan Wake. MS didn't even market that game that took 5 years to make and it is struggling to hit a million sold mark. Now there are rumors there might not even be a sequel. This is MS for you guys. Cash in on what's hot and to damn with everything else.

Sorry but most people like a variety. Shooters will only get you so far. Yes I knopw there is more to the 360 than shooters but that genre is primarily what MS puts their money behind and what yields them the biggest numbers. <- You know, what MS is in love with. Numbers and not gaming.

Armyntt4971d ago

I hardly get into these pissin contests about sales but if the 360 sold less than 5 million its first year out and the "lead" is 5 million and u take away M$ first year "headstart" than hasnt M$ then sold more units during the same time frame? Im not pouring gasoline just stating from the facts ive seen. Since VGChartz dont count show me a link proving #'s then. I dont care but the 1 year head start seems bunk to me. Im not fightin i own both so just sayin.

ChronoJoe4971d ago

None of the games announced at TGS, were 'core' games. They might be based off of corse IPs, but they are fundamentally casual, I'm afraid.

XactGamer4971d ago

The 360 and PS3 are first place in nothing accept Xbox Live. Nintendo is laughing all the way to the bank while MS and Sony fight it out for 2nd place. This gen will end like it is now with Wii 1st, 360 2nd, and PS3 3rd.

Armyntt4971d ago

NS it really matters where they finish. They are all makin money and for sure will be around for the next round.

morganfell4971d ago (Edited 4971d ago )

Don't forget the rest of the world. More than the US exists. And in all of those territories except Japan the 360 had an 18 month headstart.

MS sold 5 million in only 3 quarters of their first year (fiscal 2006). Not sure where you are getting your numbers.

The PS3 in two quarters after launch - only the US and Japan, not world wide - managed to sell 3.61 million.

Armyntt4971d ago

Morgan thats fine. I was just looking at VGChartz cause there isnt much else to look for that info. I was just wondering why it matters how much a company sells. Ive got mine youve got yours and each system still is creating games for us. Why does it matter who sold what and how many in that location? I get it though that US does not equal the world in sales but isnt the US the top dog or is that Japan? Either way if M$ sells a gazillion and $ony sells a bagillion what do you or I gain by that? As long as $ony makes GT5 and M$ makes GEOW and every year i get my Madden fix im good to go you know.

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xAlmostPro4971d ago

exactly lol.. wtf..

default platform for gamers.. is the reason i had ps2 before xbox & bought a ps3 before a 360(which i barely play on if im totally honest) ok then microsoft..

avengers19784971d ago

My default system for games is the Playstation, and has been since the first one came out.
And I buy 20+ games a year.
Plus look at the sales in japan for MS, there sad, and there are a ton of gamers there.
It's = to me saying I've done my own research and the PS3 will sell 20 million more units then the 360 when it's all said and done. No proof to it, but you can't prove it wrong either; because no one knows the future.

tinybigman4970d ago

but my default platform is the PS3 then 360, and after that the wii.

frostypants4970d ago (Edited 4970d ago )

Microsoft sounds just like Sony in the mid-late PS2 years.

This train wreck Microsoft is headed toward will be amusing. The question is will they be able to get re-tracked afterwards, like Sony has been able to? I have my doubts.

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josh143994971d ago

maybe early in its life cycle but the only exclusive game for 360 im looking forward to now is gears 2. i suppose halo reach can last me till then.

Raikiri4971d ago

Gears 2 has been out for a while now

B-Real2064971d ago

Not for me. My PS3 has seen way more game hours then my 360 ever has. If it wasn't for my roomate it wouldn't have come on in the last year. I have games I haven't even taken out of the wrapper yet. Huge backlog with more coming in.

If the 360 is cool for you, then so be it but I truly love the playstation brand always slow to start but once the engine is warm it's becomes unstoppable.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7217h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle4h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio1h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga4h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21833h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga2h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1016h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos6h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac5h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1015h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic3h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 14h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 11h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 8h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 2h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 3h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies23h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 11h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic21h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9021h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 13h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 12h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 9h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 12h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 11h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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