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Boy unwittingly ran up £1,150 bill by racking up 'Microsoft Points'

A 12-year-old boy accidentally ran up a £1,500 bill while playing Xbox Live - leaving his cash-strapped dad with no choice but to pick up the tab.

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CustardTrout4323d ago

They do require card details though, maybe you should be careful who you give them to, you silly goose.

Nitrowolf24323d ago

""An apology would be nice but I'm more interested in having this problem stopped so that we as parents can stop our kids from making payments on our cards."

OMG is he that dumb? He gave the kid his card, might as well have just given it to some random person. What did he expect; he's 12 and irresponsible, but judging from this so is the dad.

TheFirstClassic4323d ago

I also kind of wonder if the kid really thought those games were free, or if he's lying to get out of trouble. What kind of 12 year old doesn't know that games cost money?

guitarded774323d ago (Edited 4323d ago )

Parents should consider getting their kids one of those disposable charge cards where they pay cash to charge the card, and that's the limit. That way they can limit their spending and teach them some fiscal responsibility. Once the money is gone, it's gone... or the kid can work around the home to earn some money to charge the card. It's a cheaper lesson for the parent, and teaches the kid some work ethic and responsibility. When I was a kid, I mowed lawns all spring and summer to pay for my NES games.

The pic for the story is funny... the dad's like "I love my son" and the kid's like "I got away with it". If it was me, it'd be a stop action photo of the kid running like all hell and me chasing him through the yard with the car.

Campy da Camper4322d ago (Edited 4322d ago )

My daughter is 14 and I have a smartphone with a 2Gb data cap for her. We have sat down and gone over how to monitor data usage as to avoid going over the cap. She understands, has never gone over and is very responsible with her phone, IE, never gets caught in class with it on, etc.

This is just bad parenting. 12 year olds are smart. You just need to be involved with them and explain life to them. Sure, once in a while they do bone head things but that is being a kid.

Also, the example he is setting by blaming MS is showing his son that if you mess up, blame someone else. This guy gets the "loser father of the year" award.

blue7_74322d ago

I know I always laugh at this kind of stories when the kid acts all innocent like he didn't know. Who is he kidding just because his dad is stupid doesn't mean everyone else is. He is an irresponsible kid I'm pretty sure he knew what he was doing he just didn't care because he doesn't understand.

Gaming1014322d ago

You mean to tell me for 6 months this kid racked up almost 1500 bucks Canadian? Is that even possible? Does Call of Duty even have 100 British Pounds worth of stuff you can buy? You need to buy the points, and it says how much the points cost in pounds since this is in the UK, so I don't buy it that they kid thought they were free for points for killing bad guys.
Also, anyone who doesn't check their credit card statement in six months could have been a victim of any other kind of fraud and would have also been oblivious, so this is just stupidity, and I'm having a hard time believing the father just pays the bill on the card when it's several hundred pounds over what it probably should have been given a typical month's worth of transactions, I mean wake up.

tee_bag2424322d ago

I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
The kid is as stupid as the dad for being so wreckless.

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ChrisW4322d ago

This story would be quite useful for parents who are stupid enough to not educate their children about online transactions... However, I believe this has the look and smell of a fake article.

JackBNimble4322d ago (Edited 4322d ago )

Parents should be educating themselves about how online transactions work when it comes to consoles. It's called parental control , but the problem is that alot of parents have no clue about any of this.

I am a parent, and my kids can't buy anything online with out either myself or my wife to do it for them.

Wizziokid4323d ago

I blame the father for being stupid enough to let his son have his credit card details in the first place.

HammadTheBeast4323d ago

And for letting him play Call of Duty, and the kid for not realizing that the games werent free, what a bullsh*t excuse. And

Laxman4322d ago

The article says the boy spent £100 in one day buying new weapons in Call of Duty.

Not only is that not possible to do, but there's not even anything in the game that suggests in the slightest way that that is how you do it.

jeeves864322d ago

@ Laxman

The kid was probably buying points and gifting them to his online friends.

As ignorant as the father is, the boy could have told his dad that the mythical game troll took the money and he had to play to get it back.

Snookies124323d ago

Yeah the father is to blame here... It's not Microsoft's fault that he let his kid have the card info. Though, there's no easy way that I know of for deleting a card off of Xbox when you use one for something on the Marketplace. If the kid asked permission for one thing, after that he could get as much as he wanted without permission since it's saved like that.

Campy da Camper4322d ago

You cannot delete it. You have to call xbox support and have them remove it. Pain in the arse.

Waddy1014322d ago

You don't need to do that anymore, you can remove your card through xbox.com now.

PwnerifficOne4322d ago

Xbox.com > Account details > Delete Card info. That easy.

Anon19744322d ago (Edited 4322d ago )

I'm not excusing the father for not being informed but I kinda agree with the article though. The father didn't give his son his card info, he put it on the Xbox to automatically pay for the online XBL fees. He pointed out that every other site out there that stores credit card information usually requires a password or pin before charges can go through. I think that's a fantastic idea, and this is a good article to help remind parents of what can happen online if they aren't up to date with how these systems work. Of course we're all gamers - we know these things but if you aren't a gamer, wouldn't you assume there'd be some sort of password or safeguard before credit card purchases went through?

I haven't looked this up myself on my Xbox, but is there a parental setting somewhere that could potentially block these type of accidents?

Parasyte4322d ago

I know you can set restrictions and such and even label an account as a "Child Account," but I'm not quite sure what that allows you to do.

theWB274322d ago

Not an excuse, if he set it up then he should have checked the settings to make sure everything was right. Especially if he's cash strapped he should have double checked. Like other people have said, he could have bought a cash card to limit the spending. Too many avenues to stay on top of things. If he got his story out there, he sure as hell should have kept his money tight.

Slapshot824322d ago

I agree that the father -- to some degree -- might not have realized that the card could be used for DLC/online purchases. The dude could have had a terrible day at work and blew through it without reading the fine details.

But, there's no way that I believe that the kid is innocent. I say this next part out of all seriousness and not a slam on the child, as my wife is a special education teacher: that is, unless the boy has a learning disability, or other reason for not being able to read the plain English that states you're about to make a purchase. I'm just not buying his innocence. I think he knows exactly what he did and his father is taking this route in the hopes that someone will pay for his child's mistake.

This is a common theme in the world today: blame someone else for your own mistakes. It's happening over and again, and had I been the one to write this story, that's exactly the approach I'd have taken.

Mutant-Spud4322d ago

You can block XBL access on your kid's profile but there's no way of blocking them from making transactions if XBL access is enabled.
The idea that a 12 year old didn't know what he was doing isn't credible, when my daughter was about six she got onto the computer when my wife fell asleep on the couch and subscribed to Club Penguin using her mum's credit card, she also ordered about $500 worth of makeup on e-bay one time but we got out of that one.

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green4323d ago

What an ignorant parent. Forget the charges, he just admitted to allowing his 12years old son to play Call of Duty. Games which clearly are M.

-Mika-4323d ago

You and the people commenting on the story at eurogamer need to stop acting like you haven't played an m rated game when you were a child or a teen.

Ravenor4323d ago

True say.

MK didn't make me a crazy person, I just have a fear that all pits have spikes at the bottom.

Anywho, the CoD playing is the least of the kid and fathers problems.

Elderly_Cynic4322d ago

I can honestly say I never did. The ESRB didn't exist when I was a kid, so there weren't any ratings.

Pozzle4322d ago

I did. I was also monitored by my parents so that they knew exactly what type of games I was playing and whether or not I could handle them. It's just irresponsible to let an underage kid play an M or R rated game without at least checking to see what the game is about or whether the kid can handle the themes that are present. Every child reacts differently to adult themes, and just because one kid is ok with things like violence and gore, doesn't always mean another kid will be ok with it.

mysterym4323d ago

Hands up guv i watched Robocop when i was 12 too.

All kids watch films and play games over there age boundary.

mysterym4323d ago

Plus my 14 year old lad will run rings around you in gears 3 multiplayer :P

It's down to the child, my children are intelligent (the eldest has just finished school, is expecting top grades in every subject and wants to be a doctor) and have brought them up to know the values of right and wrong and i've taught them that games are just that - games.

Nevers4323d ago

If by "this" you meant "parenting" then yes... parenting these days is a joke.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk7712h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE9h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7309h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor6h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos6h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor5h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos5h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 19h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 18h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 17h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 7h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 21h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 7h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 16h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 12h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 12h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 19h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 16h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 19h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead4d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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