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Albert Penello on Xbox One's DRM: "We're not going back on that"

The Xbox One's DRM debacle and the backlash it caused will always be remembered as a big event in gaming history. Not only it damaged the brand and reputation of Xbox, it also forced Microsoft to hastily change their DRM policies. Microsoft's Albert Penello assures that they will never implement this DRM again.

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GarrusVakarian3839d ago (Edited 3839d ago )

Thank god for that, wise choice. Maybe in the future (after next gen) their DRM vision will be more relevant, but not now. Let this be a lesson learned to MS or any other gaming company that you can not force something onto the gamer, they will speak with their wallets.

Good to have some reassurance, now i can start saving for my X1 without worrying if those stupid policies will ever come back. Bravo MS, gotta give credit where its due.

KrisButtar3839d ago

I agree DRM is the major reason I stay away from PC Gaming and Steam.

With this reassurance, it puts many of my friends at ease and myself.

dedicatedtogamers3839d ago

I guess I can leave my doors unlocked at night. That burglar who tried to break in 5 nights in a row last week told me we was sorry and he wouldn't do it again.

He seemed really sincere.

KrisButtar3839d ago

@dedicatedtogamers

Who locks their doors?

I think this DRM backlash will haunt them this whole gen and if they bring it back, don't you think the backlash would be even bigger than it was? Think of the impact that would have on their future sales. They would have no credibility on the rest of the gen or the gen afterwards and if the other console makers don't put in DRM in their next machines Microsoft would have next to no sales. Which is what companies cares about.

fenome3839d ago

After they have a big enough install base I wouldn't put it past them to try to implement it again. They patched it out, they can patch it in.

rainslacker3838d ago

They certainly won't bring it back in the same form, and it's likely they'll leave physical games alone for this gen.

I see a bigger push from them in connectivity though, by requiring the user to connect to gain features that should be quite possible on the hardware itself. It seems EA and Ubisoft are going to be doing this as well.

MS has to know by now that in order to push their agenda they have to make the option of DD more appealing than physical media, or make physical media so bogged down with the requirement to connect that one would just go digital because it's about the same.

How it plays out is going to be interesting, but at no point do I see them just saying they threw the switch back to on.

Of course I could be wrong too.

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JustPlay43839d ago

Why would they that would stupidest thing ever

jackanderson19853839d ago

once google do their fibre rollout it could be fully relevant... PC moved to around 95% digital and it's doing well enough... i also assume steam box will be 100% digital?

MrCastle3839d ago

@lukas
As if you're getting an xb1. You troll every ms article hardcore. Or are you just a malcontent?

GarrusVakarian3839d ago (Edited 3839d ago )

Lol, think whatever you want. I have 103k gamerscore on the 360 and i am buying an X1 early next year hopefully. I don't troll MS articles, i comment giving my opinion, i don't think you understand the meaning of trolling, people throw that word around so easily...what if i just generally don't like MS? Im automatically a troll if i say anything negatively about them?. The idea of me praising MS is so alien to you so you think there has to be some hidden agenda? Sad. Read the last sentence of my original comment.

I don't have to like MS to buy their console and play their games, i may lean more towards Sony but im a gamer first and foremost.

I'll tell you what, i will keep track of you on N4G and then when i have an X1 ill post you photographic proof, that work for you?Lol.

johndoe112113839d ago

Lukas, you are a very very brave guy. I salute you. I'm sorry, but I don't trust microsoft as far as I can spit.

They have proven to be the most deceitful, sneaky, untrustworthy, scheming, moneywhoring company I have had the displeasure of purchasing products from.

I will be getting an xbox one for sure but It'll be in about four years or so. I will not give them my money anytime soon. They don't deserve it.

Microsoft has to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have learned from their mistakes and right now I don't get that.

Everything they've done has been to move consoles not because they see the errors of their ways. They still tried to force DRM even though they knew everyone hated it and was complaining.

All the lies, the non stop lies "The xbox one can do 4k gaming", "Our memory bandwidth is much higher than the ps4", " We can't remove the kinect, It's built into the system. The kinect is xbox one, xbox one is the kinect". How, how can I trust these people?

Why, why in the name of all that is holy will I give these people my money? What have they done to deserve it?

I have no issues with your decision, It's just not the decision I would have made. God speed though. Let us know how it pans out for you and how you like the games. You could probably do some mini reviews in your comments for those of us who are considering buying one eventually.

GarrusVakarian3839d ago

I knew i was going to get mass disagrees, its no biggie though. Im going to give MS the benefit of the doubt here, i don't think we will see a return of DRM in next gens life cycle, it hurt them too badly this year for them to try it again in my opinion.

"Why, why in the name of all that is holy will I give these people my money? What have they done to deserve it?"

I get that sentence so much, but i just can't miss out on exclusives. As a gamer, i just can't miss out. im prepared to look past my hatred for MS in order to play games that are only on their system.

johndoe112113839d ago

" i just can't miss out on exclusives. As a gamer, i just can't miss out."

I fully understand this statement, I really do. In some ways I feel the same way. But for me I think it goes a little further than just hatred. It's more like disgust at being treated like an abused wife.

It's like being abused for years and after finally getting the courage to leave, having the husband coming back and begging for another chance. A smart woman would not be so quick to jump back into bed with him again.

I'm not saying in any way that you aren't smart, I'm just saying that I choose to ignore my desire to play those exclusives, at least for now, in order to stand firm on my decision to not support microsoft out of the gate.

I still believe they don't give a rat's a$$ about us. Granted, neither may sony but at least they treated us with a little more respect.

At the end of the day I understand and respect your decision. I personally would like to get some feedback from you on your opinions of the games and the system.

GarrusVakarian3839d ago

Great to have a mature discussion on this website for once, thanks. Ill be sure to give my opinions on X1 games, im a very opinionated person so keep a look out lol. Ill drop you a friends request so i don't forget who you are lol.

BlueShirt77493839d ago

Damn I feel so bad for some of you. Step away from the electronics for a bit and take a walk outside - there are more important things to worry about.

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stuna13839d ago

The question I ask is if they hadn't bungled so much in trying to launch the Xbox1, does anyone actually believe Penello would be making this statement at this point!? Microsoft is trying to save face! Nothing more nothing less.

Blaze9293839d ago

the fact that some people really believed they would implement DRM again AFTER removing it and consumers buying a product that shouldn't have it - just shows the level of intelligence some of you all have.

That would be class action lawsuits waiting to happen.

No, the original DRM plan is never coming back on Xbox One. Give it up already.

Hicken3839d ago

The fact that Microsoft was adamant in their attempt to bring the DRM to market- even after months of gamers railing against the idea- before finally relenting just shows how determined they were to implement the restriction.

It would be great if it never came back. But I think it's reasonable to take such words with a grain of salt after how hard they pushed for it in the first place.

If anything, the people who AREN'T skeptical show a level of naivete that should be concerning for the rest of us.

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MightyNoX3839d ago

Yeeeeeah....please excuse my lack of faith in you, Mr flip flops.

NegativeCreep4273839d ago

I wouldn't even trust that face to get my order right at Jack In The Box.

MasterCornholio3839d ago

They better not pull another 180 otherwise they will get destroyed by enraged consumers.

Nexus 7 2013

Baka-akaB3839d ago

Quite frankly he wouldnt know till after the decision was taken .. in such scenarios

-Foxtrot3839d ago

True...his job is a PR spokesman, to talk about things and defend them if you need to after they've been announced by MS.

tommy-cronin3839d ago

Got this page bookmarked, there'll come a time when i'll need to read it again, wink fucking wink.

Mikelarry3839d ago (Edited 3839d ago )

you mean like when they said kinect would not record you, then changed the fact and said below.

http://n4g.com/news/1384807...

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 15h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 8h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 6h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 5h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC20h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 21h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 9h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC19h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 4h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d ago (Edited 23h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 14h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 7h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 23h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 23h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 15h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 4h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 7h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1823d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere2d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin2d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere2d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 16h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere2d ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 16h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX3d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney1d 11h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno3d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno3d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii2d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno2d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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