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Opinion: Why the PS4 controller is better than the Xbox One controller

Nick Bristow of ThriftyNerd says, "If you just used one or the other, you will be completely satisfied, but when you pick up the Xbox One controller, quickly followed by the Dual Shock 4, it's immediately noticeable how good the DS4 feels in your hands. The DS4 has finally given up its baggage of past controller design and moved on to something spectacular. And that's really my point here, it's not that Microsoft has screwed up, it's that Sony has created something awesome. These two controllers are very different and I will need to spend a lot more time with them to see if my opinion changes, but at the moment, I’m giving it to Sony."

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user74029314320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

1. touchpad

2. speakers

3. better analog sticks.( they dont slip like xbox ones )

4. the dualshock 4 analog sticks are placed right and left for human beings.

5. better triggers

6. better cosmetic look.

7. no aa batteries

8. move compatibility

9. grip on bottom

10. recharges while your away.

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isarai4320d ago

Numbers 3, 4, 5, and 6 are more personal taste honestlly.

@xJumpManx

You're grasping at straws man. Touchpads a "sstupid novelty"? i guess that's why 99% of cell phones, and 100% of tablets and laptops are controlled by this "sstupid novelty" and again most of what you posted is purely personal taste. Honestly don't see how AA battery standard is a pro, i guess it would be a pro if every laptop and smartphone ran off AA's standard aswell than too right? Also not sure if you heard but the Dualshock 4 also has greatly improved rumble, they just aren't making a big deal about it.

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edgeofsins4320d ago

@xJumpManx

Yes, these mythical "other console controllers" copied the the "360 style" that is a far more direct copy of the Dreamcast controller. It's "generally" accepted in what group you are talking about. I see far more people here that like the DS3 more.

The only thing you have is an opinion on the controller comfort. Which, by the way, I am not talking about the thumbsticks, that is not ergonomic at all or what enhances gameplay and makes it "professional".

That's cool, while you went to the store to stock up on batteries or get a play and charge kit I had a controller recharge for free. The only reason you go on about the "convenience" is because it is one of the few little excuses you have to hold on to. You can like it more, but quit debating it. The DS3 is technically more advanced, designed to be better suited for more sizes and hand shapes, and the dpad is actually good. Most people thinking that it feels uncomfortable just grip the controller way to tight and claw their fingers around it like they are strangling it. I have big hands and never has the controller felt too small.

Benchm4rk4320d ago

@edgeofsins

"I see far more people here that like the ds3 more"

You don't say. More people on n4g prefer a Sony controller over the 360 one. Why should we be surprised. I think you should take a look at the MLG pro controller. Looks awfully familiar to the 360 controller. I wonder why that would be. Maybe because outside of this website is a big wide world where not everybody is a Sony fanboy

Petro4319d ago

@Benchm4rk Surprise, take a look at the PS3 variant. There are waaaaaaaaaaay more copies of PlayStation controllers than there are of Xbox controllers. ;) http://www4.pcmag.com/media...

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GusBricker4320d ago

Speakers? Really?

If there anything like the Wii's, f*ck that.

JackOfAllBlades4320d ago

Don't be an ignorant prick, I mean come on, can the Xbox One controller output in game audio from the controller? The Dualshock 4 can. And you just wish you had speakers and cool features and all you get is a "day one" sticker, oh yay!! I love me some stickers for the more expensive and inferior console!! "But..BBut.. it is worth 100 more... Microsoft said so.. And Mmicrosoft never lies.." Yeah enjoy your 100 dollar sticker and inferior console, good day sir

laijka4320d ago

@Rowdius_Maximus
Overreact much?

He didn't even mention the X1 controller or MS.
All he said that if the speakers are of the same quality(or lack thereof) as the Wii speakers then "fuck that".

If anything your reaction reeks of inferiority complex. What is it you fear so much about the X1 and its controller that you feel the need to rage over it in reply of a comment that doesn't even mention it?

mcstorm4319d ago

Lol Wow so its now my controller is better than yours this week. The controller that is best for me is the one that fits my hands the best. Last gen it was the 360 because I have big hands and the DS3 gives me cramp after using it for an hour or so. That said I really could not care less the controller is no the reason why I am getting a Xbox one and PS4 and was not the reason I got a Wiiu. The reason for me getting them is they all have games I want.

showtimefolks4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

everyone who i know who have played around with ps4 controllers say they loved it

bigger over controller
more comfortable grip
better analog sticks
the triggers for racing/shooters

i want to try to the speakers

i think being able to charge your controller while you are away is also a nice touch

I am just glad that sony kept the basic of dual shock the same

xJumpManx

better placement of analog sticks really? that's personal likability to me but i guess to each their own

Xsilver4320d ago

DS4 the analog placement is the best because its good for shooters and it puts the D pad insync so its also good for fighters

ABeastNamedTariq4320d ago

@X

That second part is why I don't like to play fighters on Xbox. I like having the d-pad and face buttons on the same level. It feels better to me. Not even with the improved d-pad will I buy a fighter on XB1. It feels way too uncomfortable for me. But that's just my ol' preference.

Xsilver4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

its like people forget about other genres.

JackOfAllBlades4320d ago

@Tariq And because the Xbox 360 D-Pad was so jank, I mean it was so clunky, was just a big piece of plastic while the PS3's had separate buttons. The Xbox One controller is probably a little better about that but I think the DS4 will still be superior.

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stage884320d ago

@DirtyPimp

Nailed it. Can't wait to try out the DS4 perfection.

YNWA964320d ago

Dualshock 4 might even get close to 360 controller I heard....

Angeljuice4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

@YNWA96
I can show you 6 or 7 articles stating that the DS4 is better than X1 controller, can't find a single one stating the opposite.

Both are apparently better than the 360 controller, so don't worry too much, you'll still be getting a good controller (nothing wrong with playing second fiddle).

Even die-hard Xbox fans say DS4 is better (the ones who have actually used one that is).

Just drop it, you're fighting a losing battle, except defeat with grace and charm, rather than a hissy denial.

keyz15794320d ago

I have noticed that on here there are way more Sony fans than Microsoft so no matter what they do weather its a positive change a game packed anything you guys will criticize it and tear it apart

Angeljuice4320d ago

Well you tend to get "way more fans" of a superior product. That's how the world works.

AJ Hartley4319d ago

Yeh like he said fan boys or not superiority generally gets the votes I mean all the bad media on xbone who would want to get one , so they can shaft you again?

Belking4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

1. touchpad ( not innovative Nintendo already has it)

2. speakers ( not innovative Nintendo already has it)

3. better analog sticks.( they dont slip like xbox ones ) (...lol really now)

4. the dualshock 4 analog sticks are placed right and left for human beings. ( Bs, they a re placed there because they are stuck with that design they have nowhere else to move them)

5. better triggers ( bs, they copied off Xbox..... Xbox has rumble triggers they don't)
g
6. better cosmetic look. ( not even close)

7. no aa batteries ( because they know touch pad would eat up battery life... They had no choice)

8. move compatibility ( yep, no innovation..)

9. grip on bottom ( no big deal)

10. recharges while your away.( welcome to the. 1990s)

All they did was add touchpad, speakers and copied triggers. It's basically the same old ds3.

GravelerMagnitude94320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

Nothing but your opinion.

7. So you say sony will go from having a rechargable battery on ps3 to AA on ps4

You say no innovation, wow

so adding extra input for controls, controller grip lengthening, improved analog and more doesn't help. ok

I guess xbox one has tons of innovative features like AA batteries

belking you are quite a person

NeXXXuS4320d ago

I doubt the speaker on the control will be for silly sound effects like the wii remote was.

BoriboyShoGUN4320d ago

Typical post from Belking!!! Why do people have to be mindless fanboys. These guys act like if you agree that the competition is doing something good your going to burst into flames!! Everyone that has felt or used the DS4 saids its awesome!!
1. Touchpad - its Sony they'll do something cool with it
2. D Pad- Sony has had the best Dpad since PS 1!
3. AA Batteries- Really XBOX guys come on give this one up! (youre drunk)
4. Analog sticks- We shall see never minded the old 360 or DS3 analogs. But the DS4's do look like they'll be good.
I could go on for days but its pointless anywayz.

ABeastNamedTariq4320d ago

Grip on the bottom is a huge deal for me. If it makes the controller easier and more comfortable to hold, I'm all for it. It's reducing slipperiness, how is that not a big deal? Oh yeah, you're you, that's why, lol.

LiinoMajire4320d ago

This XBOT with down syndrome just never gives up does it? LOL.

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3-4-54320d ago

uhh.

PS3's sticks are floaty and HORRIBLE for sports games and FPS games.

At least 360's snapped back to center.

PS1 originally had a good controller.

They ruined it, and now are finally making it really good again.

Hicken4320d ago

... using a DS3 right now, and there's NO float involved. What's more, there's far less dead zone than in the 360 sticks. Which makes them better for more precise motions, like you'd need in FPS and sports games.

And lookathat! The DS3's analog sticks go right back to center when I release em!

moparful994319d ago

Horrible for FPS'? Hmm then how is it that my KDR is far better in my PS3 version of my call of duty games than in the 360 version? I'm sorry but I love the DS3 especially for shooters but when I want to play something that isn't a shooter my DS3 walks alllll over the 360 pad..

SpecialSauce4320d ago

Xbox One controller still doesn't have any motion features.. or a proper name, "xbox one controller"

Sony's creation allows for SO many more possibilities of controls: buttons with motion with touchpad

THAT controller deserves a name.

palaeomerus4320d ago

Motion control on Sixaxis and DS3 was a rarely used joke though. Shake off the zombies. Guide the batarang. Yay. I'd never miss it. I don't know about the touch-pad. It seems dumb but might be good for a diablo-style inventory or something.

I have an 0pen mind about it. And the shape of the DS4 looks a lot more comfortable in the hand that the DS3 was. I have preordered both so we'll see.

SpecialSauce4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

@palaeomerus

rag doll kung fu made excellent use of it, in fact it was essential to the game and made it great. if that happens even with one or 2 or 3 games; its worth it especially if they're real hit games. i think the fact that the touchpad is physical/sitting there glaring at devs they might pay more attention to it and find ways of implementing it so that it enhances the experience and doesn't just serve as a new method of doing something which more conventional means could have accomplished just as uneventfully

moparful994319d ago

Using the Sixaxis control in Warhawk proved it was a great feature that was poorly implemented by most devs.. I absolutely loved playing warhawk with sixaxis and wish more games would take advantage of it..

Bathyj4320d ago

the dualshock 4 analog sticks are placed right and left for human beings.

Brilliant

http://www.google.com.au/se...

listenkids4319d ago

@xJumpManX

"you should not have to pick your hand off the analog pads"

Really? How does one play any game ever made.

andibandit4319d ago

@DirtyPimp

7. no aa batteries

Im assuming you actually mean the battery isnt in the way when holding the controller.
The actual built in battery, is more expensive to replace when it breaks or when higher mAh batteries become available.

b00mFargl34319d ago

all of your reasons besides the AA batteries and recharging are invalid.

"The sticks are placed right and left for human beings"

There isn't a controller that exists that i know where they aren't placed on the right and left. Although xbox my swap the positions of the D-Pad to make it easier to use the stick and the D-pad. they are still placed right and left.

and dont forget. Move is a piece of shit. Why they are still trying to use that technology makes no sense. Enjoy your night light while you play.

What a horrible argument.

ceed9114319d ago

speakers? Because often I complain that my television's sound sucks so I need my controller to make noise.

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Pantstuff4320d ago

I was going for more of a "how does it feel to use" approach rather than a feature comparison.

user74029314320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

"If you just used one or the other, you will be completely satisfied, but when you pick up the Xbox One controller, quickly followed by the Dual Shock 4, it's immediately noticeable how good the DS4 feels in your hands.''

I recall how great the triggers felt myself, and with all that tech i was kind of thinking it would feel claustrophobic but it didnt. and when i navigabled the ds4 it was seemless. those are my ''feel'' impressions.

Majin-vegeta4320d ago

I just want it in my hands already.

-Foxtrot4320d ago

I kind of all DS controllers to be better then the ones on other consoles to be honest. The DS controller for me is an all rounder controller great for a variety of games with different genres. The Xbox 360 controller for example is only better for FPS in my opinion. I mean I'm not saying the DS3 or any other DS didn't have it's faults but they were still better in my opinion. You get these people though that said the DS was too small but to be honest that came out of no where since no one complained about it being too "small" back when the PS1 came out or even the PS2.

Shame Nintendo with the Wii U didn't have a updated gamecube style one for it's main controller

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‘I think Xbox hardware is dead’, says Microsoft gaming veteran

One of the founding members of the Xbox team has questioned Microsoft’s multiplatform gaming strategy, and said they believe the Xbox hardware business is effectively “dead"

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Goodguy011d 7h ago

Think that rumor that they'll still make a new console but at a profit at $1000 will be true though. The series consoles will remain their cheap alternative throughout next gen I would say. Keep in mind that game pass and pretty much going 3rd party is their main focus. They want to bring xbox everywhere.

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GamerRN10h ago

If they don't maintain some kind of console presence, I think they will lose gamepass subscribers and just become a 3rd party publisher who eventually sells everything off

Cacabunga10h ago

Xbox games are releasing on all platforms. Who needs this hardware? PS or PC is all you need

Flewid6388h ago

I've never owned an Xbox in my life and I have GamePass.

thorstein7h ago

The only Xbox I owned was the 360. I have gamepass for my PC.

GamerRN2h ago

Majority of Gamepass users are currently on console...

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crazyCoconuts9h ago

Even if they could get it down to $800 for a box that can run with comparable performance to a PS6 (at, say $200 cheaper) the population of people willing to buy such a thing would be so limited.
It would be the worst of both worlds.

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Futureshark20h ago

A slow, painful and public death too.

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils2d ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent751d 13h ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils1d 5h ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai3d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning773d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher2d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor2d ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde2d ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z1d 21h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey861d 16h ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer6d ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30006d ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer6d ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger6d ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30006d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole6d ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto6d ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing696d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif6d ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing696d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif6d ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot6d ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast6d ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts6d ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto6d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos6d ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo5d ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner5d ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Are you and Anast the same person?

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